Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 , The point was not the price but that Geoff is not trying to hurt anyone, only be helpful. It's really sad you can't see that. I don't care about searching it out. I would rather pay Geoff a few dollars more than a stranger 2 bucks less. Geoff is part of our family here. I would feel the same if you were selling something. We are supposed to care about each other. Can't we just let this go? T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 ok sorry, im ignorant. how do they test? and can an endo do it or do we need to see the uro? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Test for what? Can you be more specific? OR eon Re: Prostate Cancer ok sorry, im ignorant. how do they test? and can an endo do it or do we need to see the uro? thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2003 Report Share Posted September 15, 2003 oh i meant for the prostate cancer. sorry, im not sure that i know what i am doing yet as far as USING this board lol! i talked to someone else who says its the finger thing as well as blood. so maybe i got my answer... > Test for what? Can you be more specific? > > OR eon > > Re: Prostate Cancer > > ok > sorry, > im ignorant. > how do they test? > > and can an endo do it or do we need to see the uro? > thanks. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 In a message dated 12/12/04 3:09:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, cgd@... writes: > My sister's husband (I will call him " R " )has recently been diagnosed > with prostate cancer. He is 43. Here are some questions I am hoping > you could help me with: > > * So... what should " R " eat and not eat??! ____ ~~~> I don't know what effect it has on reversal, but vitamin A is an *extremely* potent inhibitor of prostate cancer according to some recent researcher. Vitamin A is the most effective inhibitor of prostate cancer that has been studied so far. It would probably be a good idea to be consuming a good daily dose of high-vitamin cod liver oil. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 > prostate cancer > > > > >Hello smart nutrition people :-), > >My sister's husband (I will call him " R " )has recently been diagnosed >with prostate cancer. He is 43. Here are some questions I am hoping >you could help me with: > Hi Carolyn, I think Dr. Ron Schmid is experienced at treating prostate cancer and he is a WAP-style ND. It might be worth giving him a call to get a sense of what he could do for your BIL. He does phone consultations. You can check him out at http://www.drrons.com and his prostate cancer page is here: http://www.drrons.com/prostate_cancer.html Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 They're probably trying to counter the positive publicity that TRT gets and the huge increases in Testosterone treatment over the past five years. It would be in the drug companies best interest to try to stop the gravitation men are having toward T therapy by scaring them. Drug companies are spending a lot more money on Testosterone related drug benefits than they did just a few years ago. That's the only reason I can think for that article to be published, there was nothing new in it. At least that's what it seems to me. > Testosterone is only contraindicated in men with existing prostate cancer > you cannot tell someone has Prostate cancer just because someone's PSA is > 'normal' > > Most men who die show on autopsy to have an existing Prostate cancer that is > relativeley > slow growing geneally.... > > This quote does not state the afge of the men in the study, my guess is that > they were older > men ariound 70yrs old with existing PC.....the T supplementation caused a > flare up of the PC.. > > This phenomena is well reported. > If true, the group conducting this sdtudy are about 25 yrs behind the times > and haved just kept themselves > gainfully employed, wasting taxpayers money finding something out that we > already know.... > > If TRT caused significant PC.....with all the thousands of studies done, > this would be shown up > already.....PC only shows up on TRT with existing late stage cancers....... > > This study is not only misleading but a complete waste of time....I mean > apart from keeping the Doctors concerned > off the Streets, which has got to be worth something.... > > Why have they wasted money conducting a study which they know has > flaws....and worse yet....drawn > conclusions from it, and even worse published them...... > > The only thing this article accomplishes is to give TRT bad > publicity......using Data from an acknowledged > Flawed Study...... > > It makes a mockery of Scientific proof... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 here is a good link on Prostate cancer and T. This Dr. feels the more T the better. http://www.prostatepointers.org/prostate/leibowitz/TEST-REV2.html Phil asaxon67 <no_reply > wrote: They're probably trying to counter the positive publicity that TRT gets and the huge increases in Testosterone treatment over the past five years. It would be in the drug companies best interest to try to stop the gravitation men are having toward T therapy by scaring them. Drug companies are spending a lot more money on Testosterone related drug benefits than they did just a few years ago. That's the only reason I can think for that article to be published, there was nothing new in it. At least that's what it seems to me. > Testosterone is only contraindicated in men with existing prostate cancer > you cannot tell someone has Prostate cancer just because someone's PSA is > 'normal' > > Most men who die show on autopsy to have an existing Prostate cancer that is > relativeley > slow growing geneally.... > > This quote does not state the afge of the men in the study, my guess is that > they were older > men ariound 70yrs old with existing PC.....the T supplementation caused a > flare up of the PC.. > > This phenomena is well reported. > If true, the group conducting this sdtudy are about 25 yrs behind the times > and haved just kept themselves > gainfully employed, wasting taxpayers money finding something out that we > already know.... > > If TRT caused significant PC.....with all the thousands of studies done, > this would be shown up > already.....PC only shows up on TRT with existing late stage cancers....... > > This study is not only misleading but a complete waste of time....I mean > apart from keeping the Doctors concerned > off the Streets, which has got to be worth something.... > > Why have they wasted money conducting a study which they know has > flaws....and worse yet....drawn > conclusions from it, and even worse published them...... > > The only thing this article accomplishes is to give TRT bad > publicity......using Data from an acknowledged > Flawed Study...... > > It makes a mockery of Scientific proof... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Is that his urologist talking, or the urologist's lawyer? I guess everybody has to make his own decisions about things like this, and there may be a lot of details you haven't reported to us, but if he's not having any symptoms, I don't think I would do a biopsy. Maybe in a year or two if the PSA climbs rapidly. I think the urologist may feel compelled for legal reasons to recommend a biopsy. But you can always just say no. > > My father-in-law just got a PSA back that was 4.0 and his urologist wants to do a biopsy. He is 80 years old with congestive heart failure and a pacemaker. This seems a little overkill to me and a more appropriate course would be to increase the PSA frequency first. What are your thoughts? > > Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 A little off forum topic but since I have some exp with this I guess I'll take a stab at it. My father was diagnosed two years ago with Prostate Cancer. He had went for years without a diagnosis as his PSA rose from 2 to 5 to 7 to 9 to 10 and then stayed at about 10 for a couple years. During that time he had about 4 biopsies until the last one when out of a 14 core sample they found a minute amount of Prostate Cancer. For years they told him it was BHP but when the diagnosis came down we found out that his Prostate wasn't enlarged. He was told a lie for years because they couldn't find anything with the biopsies. This caused him to think it was nothing and he went for two years without a biopsy. This could have killed him. Luckily they found this very small amount of cancer during the last biopsy and he had to go through the whole testing, staging and radiation route. He's two years post radiation and so far so good. Now about your Dad. A PSA of 4 or more does normally warrant a biopsy. A friend of mine's Dad had a PSA of 5 about two years ago, a year later his PSA was 20 and six months after that his PSA was 55. Obviously, if they had done a biopsy when his PSA was 5 he might have had a chance for a cure. As it is his tests have shown that the cancer has metastasized and now he's on hormones hoping that they will extend his life for as long as possible. BTW, he's also 80 years old. Now with that said there are a lot of things that can raise PSA especially any stimulation of the prostate (i.e. riding a bike.) If that isn't possible then a PSA of 4 or more can indicate cancer. Biopsies are very safe procedures even if they are uncomfortable and may hurt a little. In relation to your Father's other conditions (Heart) that is a question for your Father's doctors. I wouldn't think a biopsy would put your father at any more risk than anyone else getting a biopsy but that's really a question for a doctor. Also, multiple PSA tests that can measure how fast someone's PSA is rising is usually a good indicator of whether cancer is the cause. The faster PSA rises over time the better chance it's cancer. If your father has had previous PSA checks that indicate a rise of PSA over a relatively short period of time then a biopsy would definitely be indicated at any PSA level over 4. Hope this helps, this is just a layman's opinion. > > My father-in-law just got a PSA back that was 4.0 and his urologist wants to do a biopsy. He is 80 years old with congestive heart failure and a pacemaker. This seems a little overkill to me and a more appropriate course would be to increase the PSA frequency first. What are your thoughts? > > Arkansas > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Thanks for the replys - just a little additional information, his PSA 1 year ago was 3 now 4 (not a big change). He has suffered from BPH for many years and takes medications for it. We see his internest Friday and will probably ask his opinion as well. Thanks for the feedback - Arkansas asaxon67 <no_reply > wrote: A little off forum topic but since I have some exp with this I guess I'll take a stab at it. My father was diagnosed two years ago with Prostate Cancer. He had went for years without a diagnosis as his PSA rose from 2 to 5 to 7 to 9 to 10 and then stayed at about 10 for a couple years. During that time he had about 4 biopsies until the last one when out of a 14 core sample they found a minute amount of Prostate Cancer. For years they told him it was BHP but when the diagnosis came down we found out that his Prostate wasn't enlarged. He was told a lie for years because they couldn't find anything with the biopsies. This caused him to think it was nothing and he went for two years without a biopsy. This could have killed him. Luckily they found this very small amount of cancer during the last biopsy and he had to go through the whole testing, staging and radiation route. He's two years post radiation and so far so good. Now about your Dad. A PSA of 4 or more does normally warrant a biopsy. A friend of mine's Dad had a PSA of 5 about two years ago, a year later his PSA was 20 and six months after that his PSA was 55. Obviously, if they had done a biopsy when his PSA was 5 he might have had a chance for a cure. As it is his tests have shown that the cancer has metastasized and now he's on hormones hoping that they will extend his life for as long as possible. BTW, he's also 80 years old. Now with that said there are a lot of things that can raise PSA especially any stimulation of the prostate (i.e. riding a bike.) If that isn't possible then a PSA of 4 or more can indicate cancer. Biopsies are very safe procedures even if they are uncomfortable and may hurt a little. In relation to your Father's other conditions (Heart) that is a question for your Father's doctors. I wouldn't think a biopsy would put your father at any more risk than anyone else getting a biopsy but that's really a question for a doctor. Also, multiple PSA tests that can measure how fast someone's PSA is rising is usually a good indicator of whether cancer is the cause. The faster PSA rises over time the better chance it's cancer. If your father has had previous PSA checks that indicate a rise of PSA over a relatively short period of time then a biopsy would definitely be indicated at any PSA level over 4. Hope this helps, this is just a layman's opinion. > > My father-in-law just got a PSA back that was 4.0 and his urologist wants to do a biopsy. He is 80 years old with congestive heart failure and a pacemaker. This seems a little overkill to me and a more appropriate course would be to increase the PSA frequency first. What are your thoughts? > > Arkansas > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 > > I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6. > Does anyone have experience in this area? > I found this but I don,t know it it really works. I do know there are many med.studies to back it up. Johanne F _______________________________________________________________________ How I Stopped Prostate Cancer by inhaling hydrogen peroxide HYDROGEN PEROXIDE Hydrogen Peroxide is the most over looked chemical used by man. New uses of it are coming to light every day. Bad bugs be they, in your garden or your body, they cannot live in an oxygen rich environment. At 69 years old my muscles were so tight that to get out of bed I would lay on my stomach and back out on to the floor, push down on the bed and stand up. I knew there was something to correct this bad situation. One morning while having coffee with a friend, I noticed he had brought a small stack of books with him. Being curious, I asked if I could look at the books. The one that stood out to me was " O2xygen Therapies " . As I was scanning it, it became more interesting to me. I asked him if I could take it home. It was a week before returning the book. Being convinced Hydrogen Peroxide was what I was looking for, it was now going to into my system? The book gave three choices. Put 8 to 10 drops in an 8 oz cup and drink it, four times a day. Next was, put a pint of 35% in the bathtub and soak for 1 hour once a week. Or go to a doctor for intravenous infusion once a week. None of these had any appeal to me. After a week or two I decided that the easiest, and most efficient way was to inhale the 3% peroxide into my mouth and on into my lungs. I just happened to have a " Nasal Spray Pump " (see sample picture below). I dumped the contents out, put in the 3% peroxide as it comes from the drugstore. Now, how many times do I pump? I settled for one pump per inhale, and 4 times a day. That went on for about a month. As I was laying down for a short rest, I noticed that I was breathing freely. No forced inhale or exhale. That was the first thing that I noticed while inhaling the peroxide. I then changed the time when to inhale the peroxide. Now I inhale 2 times in the morning and at night. While deep inhaling I pump the pump as many times as I can, usually 8 to 10 pumps each inhale. Another thing I noticed was, I sleep all night with my mouth closed. I used to have heart aches that were very uncomfortable, no more. My wife and I have been inhaling peroxide for 9 years now and no colds, sore muscles, aches or pains. I take no medication or vitamins. I am less than two years to 80 years old. My lungs don't give out when I work in my garden or other things around the house. My house is 160 years old, so the work never stops. Peroxide keeps our oxygen blood count in the high 90's. One of the first people that used the peroxide as I do was very interesting. He had a low self-esteem. I found out that he was on kidney dialysis. I discussed the peroxide several times with him. Finally one day I went to his house with a nasal spray pump. He opened it and poured out the contents and filled it back up with 3% peroxide. He sprayed it in to his mouth and into his lungs. I said you know how to do it, and I left. Three days later I called him to see if anything had happened. He said that he could breath easier. Four days latter he called me, he was so excited all he could say was " It's working, It's working " . I asked " What did it do? " . He said he was waking up about an hour and a half before normal and that he was coughing up all the bad stuff that was in his lungs. He went back to bed and when he woke up, he said he had not felt that good in years. From that time on his spirit was always good and his voice was up beat. A couple of people told me after four or five years of using the peroxide they stopped. I ask why and both said they did not get sick, and they don't think it was working. You can make that judgement. One friend of ours goes to the doctor for pacemaker check ups and the doctor tells him the peroxide will not help him but it will not do him any harm. He is using his second pacemaker. He has told me several times; if it were not for his inhaling the peroxide he would not be here today. Bill Munro Email at: land@... Website: www.landrights.com Nasal Pump Use The nasal spray pump plays a big part in my use of peroxide. I use it to propel the peroxide into my lungs by spraying it into the back of my throat. I also spray my toothbrush to clean my teeth, to clean my glasses, spray minor cuts and scrapes, and wet postage stamps. Peroxide can be used as an aftershave tonic. Spray it on your face and rub it in. BE SURE you close your eyes when you spray your face. It will be uncomfortable if you don't. Peroxide may be a factor in retarding aging. I have an additional nasal pump that is full of distilled water and I use it to flush out my eyes when they feel a little dry. I spray my eyes and let the water drain down my cheeks. I wipe the water off my cheeks only, with a tissue. There are no chemicals in distilled water. I think in the future many of the prescription drugs will come in a spray pump. Several do now but we will be seeing more. This allows the drugs to start to work instantly. They will go right into your system and not have to ward off the acids in your stomach. They can be easily dispensed almost anywhere. Do you have a suggestion for the use of a nasal pump? I'd be interested in hearing from you. GARDENING WITH HYDROGEN PEROXIDE This will be the most phenomenal article you will ever read. It deals with something as simple as H2O2 (Peroxide) and is harmless to all good things. I have been gardening for about 40 years and was wondering why bad bugs had to have a very specific pesticide to control them. I had been inhaling peroxide for aches, pains and allergies and it seemed to control all of them. Not having any source to go to for the information on how to use peroxide in the garden, I decided on the trial and error method. I have never started a project that I new how to get to the end, and this was no exception. The beauty supply store would have the peroxide that I needed. The 40% peroxide cost about $2.50 a quart. I bought the least expensive they had, because I did not need any additives. Having no knowledge of what strength to use, I used 8% for my plants. They did not die so that is the strength I have used ever since. If you have a small garden you will need a hand squeeze sprayer. A little peroxide goes a long way. My lot is about 100 X 85 and I use a six-gallon sprayer. I have it mounted on a 2-wheel handcart. The peroxide comes in several strengths, so the strength you start out with is not that important as long as the final strength is 8%. Peroxide should be kept out of the sun. When you plant the seedlings dig the hole and spray it with peroxide using your hand sprayer. Wet it good and then wet the roots of the seedlings or small plant. I don't use any commercial fertilizers. I have my own well so I have none of those chemicals the government uses in their water. When I prune the fruit trees, I put the trimmings in the chipper and add all the ashes from my wood burner and then till them into the garden in the fall. My garden is composting all year long. The grass clippings are used for the walkways between plants. I started out with clay, now the soil is black and soft. Corn was the first plant that I used the peroxide on. I marked two rows off and every 12 inches made a hole about 2 " or 3 " deep. I put one kernel in each hole then poured about third cup of 8% peroxide in each hole and covered them up. In 5 to 6 days the sprouts came up. Fourteen days later I repeated the process without the peroxide. They came up in 12 to 14 days. Fourteen days later I repeated the first with the peroxide and they came up in 5 to 6 days. As the corn grew the corn with out the peroxide did not grow well as the ones with peroxide. I have noticed that the birds do not attack the ears of corn any more, and I assume it is because there are no worms in ears of corn. Birds can fly over the corn and know there are no worms in the corn. Do they have a sense that man does not have? Acorn squash was next. They were planted with out peroxide. After 3 or 4 leaves formed the bugs made filigree of the leaves. One new leaf was untouched. I sprayed the plants with peroxide and as time went by the plants sprouted new leaves. They produced several squash. I sprayed the plants after every rain. I planted turnips with no peroxide and the bugs over took them. I wet them down with peroxide and that stopped the bugs. I planted radishes and they grew bigger than golf balls, and had a mild and firm taste. I will be planting radishes and carrots this year. Last year the turnips grew to 6 " to 8 " in diameter and were mild when cooked. The next year I decided to try soaking the seeds before I planted them. I soak them for three or four hours just before I planted them. The only seeds that did not survive the soaking were the navy beans. They just slipped out of their skins. The potatoes have been interesting. The first year I planted potatoes I planted them without soaking them but sprayed them after they came up. I wet them down (not soaking) after they were 6 or 8 inches tall. Then about three weeks later I just sprayed a mist over them. They had some very small holes in them but they produced good potatoes. The next year I soaked them before planting and misted them when they came up. Last year I had several self-sow potatoes. I transplanted them but used no peroxide on them. I have had self-sow squash that came from plants that were peroxide grown and they were bug free without using peroxide. In 2002 I used one ounce of 40% peroxide per gallon. Just about every thing that was green was sprayed and the results were a big surprise to my wife and me, We had no mosquitoes or any other flying bugs in our yard. There were a few ladybugs but they were few and far between. I don't think the peroxide had any thing to do with the ladybugs directly. However, the lack of bugs for them to eat would be my guess why there were so few. The vegetable that gave me a problem was the cabbage. I was determined to conquer the cabbageworm. Years ago I sprayed the cabbage plants with peroxide to no avail. This year I soaked the cabbage seeds before planting them. There were no signs of the bug until the cabbage plants were almost full grown, then I poured about a quarter of cup of 8% peroxide over the cabbage, letting it flow down into the layers of the leaves. That stopped the cabbage bugs. This year I will use hydrogen peroxide more freely on every thing that is alive and green in my yard and garden. For more information click on links below. Studies Reveal How Cells Sense Oxygen Clue to spread of cancer discovered http://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Thank you for the kind reply. Can I get one of those pumps at a drug store? Kind regards, Arthur [low dose naltrexone] Re: Prostate Cancer >> I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6.> Does anyone have experience in this area?>I found this but I don,t know it it really works. I do know there aremany med.studies to back it up.Johanne F__________________________________________________________How I Stopped Prostate Cancer by inhaling hydrogen peroxideHYDROGEN PEROXIDE Hydrogen Peroxide is the most over looked chemical used byman. New uses of it are coming to light every day. Bad bugs be they,in your garden or your body, they cannot live in an oxygen richenvironment. At 69 years old my muscles were so tight that to get outof bed I would lay on my stomach and back out on to the floor, pushdown on the bed and stand up. I knew there was something to correctthis bad situation. One morning while having coffee with a friend, Inoticed he had brought a small stack of books with him. Being curious,I asked if I could look at the books. The one that stood out to me was"O2xygen Therapies". As I was scanning it, it became more interestingto me. I asked him if I could take it home. It was a week beforereturning the book. Being convinced Hydrogen Peroxide was what I waslooking for, it was now going to into my system? The book gave threechoices. Put 8 to 10 drops in an 8 oz cup and drink it, four times aday. Next was, put a pint of 35% in the bathtub and soak for 1 houronce a week. Or go to a doctor for intravenous infusion once a week.None of these had any appeal to me. After a week or two I decided that the easiest, and mostefficient way was to inhale the 3% peroxide into my mouth and on intomy lungs. I just happened to have a "Nasal Spray Pump" (see samplepicture below). I dumped the contents out, put in the 3% peroxide asit comes from the drugstore. Now, how many times do I pump? I settledfor one pump per inhale, and 4 times a day. That went on for about amonth. As I was laying down for a short rest, I noticed that I wasbreathing freely. No forced inhale or exhale. That was the first thingthat I noticed while inhaling the peroxide. I then changed the timewhen to inhale the peroxide. Now I inhale 2 times in the morning andat night. While deep inhaling I pump the pump as many times as I can,usually 8 to 10 pumps each inhale. Another thing I noticed was, Isleep all night with my mouth closed. I used to have heart aches thatwere very uncomfortable, no more. My wife and I have been inhaling peroxide for 9 years nowand no colds, sore muscles, aches or pains. I take no medication orvitamins. I am less than two years to 80 years old. My lungs don'tgive out when I work in my garden or other things around the house. Myhouse is 160 years old, so the work never stops. Peroxide keeps ouroxygen blood count in the high 90's. One of the first people that used the peroxide as I do wasvery interesting. He had a low self-esteem. I found out that he was onkidney dialysis. I discussed the peroxide several times with him.Finally one day I went to his house with a nasal spray pump. He openedit and poured out the contents and filled it back up with 3% peroxide.He sprayed it in to his mouth and into his lungs. I said you know howto do it, and I left. Three days later I called him to see if anythinghad happened. He said that he could breath easier. Four days latter hecalled me, he was so excited all he could say was "It's working, It'sworking". I asked "What did it do?". He said he was waking up about anhour and a half before normal and that he was coughing up all the badstuff that was in his lungs. He went back to bed and when he woke up,he said he had not felt that good in years. From that time on hisspirit was always good and his voice was up beat. A couple of people told me after four or five years ofusing the peroxide they stopped. I ask why and both said they did notget sick, and they don't think it was working. You can make thatjudgement. One friend of ours goes to the doctor for pacemaker checkups and the doctor tells him the peroxide will not help him but itwill not do him any harm. He is using his second pacemaker. He hastold me several times; if it were not for his inhaling the peroxide hewould not be here today.Bill MunroEmail at: landlandrights Website: www.landrights.comNasal Pump Use The nasal spray pump plays a big part in my use ofperoxide. I use it to propel the peroxide into my lungs by spraying itinto the back of my throat. I also spray my toothbrush to clean myteeth, to clean my glasses, spray minor cuts and scrapes, and wetpostage stamps. Peroxide can be used as an aftershave tonic. Spray iton your face and rub it in. BE SURE you close your eyes when you sprayyour face. It will be uncomfortable if you don't. Peroxide may be afactor in retarding aging. I have an additional nasal pump that is full of distilled water and Iuse it to flush out my eyes when they feel a little dry. I spray myeyes and let the water drain down my cheeks. I wipe the water off mycheeks only, with a tissue. There are no chemicals in distilled water. I think in the future many of the prescription drugs will come in aspray pump. Several do now but we will be seeing more. This allowsthe drugs to start to work instantly. They will go right into yoursystem and not have to ward off the acids in your stomach. They can beeasily dispensed almost anywhere. Do you have a suggestion for the use of a nasal pump? I'd beinterested in hearing from you. GARDENING WITHHYDROGEN PEROXIDE This will be the most phenomenal article you will everread. It deals with something as simple as H2O2 (Peroxide) and isharmless to all good things. I have been gardening for about 40 yearsand was wondering why bad bugs had to have a very specific pesticideto control them. I had been inhaling peroxide for aches, pains andallergies and it seemed to control all of them. Not having any sourceto go to for the information on how to use peroxide in the garden, Idecided on the trial and error method. I have never started a projectthat I new how to get to the end, and this was no exception. The beauty supply store would have the peroxide that I needed. The 40%peroxide cost about $2.50 a quart. I bought the least expensive theyhad, because I did not need any additives. Having no knowledge ofwhat strength to use, I used 8% for my plants. They did not die sothat is the strength I have used ever since. If you have a small garden you will need a hand squeezesprayer. A little peroxide goes a long way. My lot is about 100 X 85and I use a six-gallon sprayer. I have it mounted on a 2-wheelhandcart. The peroxide comes in several strengths, so the strengthyou start out with is not that important as long as the final strengthis 8%. Peroxide should be kept out of the sun. When you plant the seedlings dig the hole and spray itwith peroxide using your hand sprayer. Wet it good and then wet theroots of the seedlings or small plant. I don't use any commercial fertilizers. I have my own well so I havenone of those chemicals the government uses in their water. When Iprune the fruit trees, I put the trimmings in the chipper and add allthe ashes from my wood burner and then till them into the garden inthe fall. My garden is composting all year long. The grass clippingsare used for the walkways between plants. I started out with clay, nowthe soil is black and soft. Corn was the first plant that I used the peroxide on. I marked tworows off and every 12 inches made a hole about 2" or 3" deep. I putone kernel in each hole then poured about third cup of 8% peroxide ineach hole and covered them up. In 5 to 6 days the sprouts came up.Fourteen days later I repeated the process without the peroxide. Theycame up in 12 to 14 days. Fourteen days later I repeated the firstwith the peroxide and they came up in 5 to 6 days. As the corn grewthe corn with out the peroxide did not grow well as the ones withperoxide. I have noticed that the birds do not attack the ears of cornany more, and I assume it is because there are no worms in ears ofcorn. Birds can fly over the corn and know there are no worms in thecorn. Do they have a sense that man does not have? Acorn squash was next. They were planted with outperoxide. After 3 or 4 leaves formed the bugs made filigree of theleaves. One new leaf was untouched. I sprayed the plants with peroxideand as time went by the plants sprouted new leaves. They producedseveral squash. I sprayed the plants after every rain. I plantedturnips with no peroxide and the bugs over took them. I wet them downwith peroxide and that stopped the bugs. I planted radishes and they grew bigger than golf balls,and had a mild and firm taste. I will be planting radishes and carrotsthis year. Last year the turnips grew to 6" to 8" in diameter and weremild when cooked. The next year I decided to try soaking the seeds before Iplanted them. I soak them for three or four hours just before Iplanted them. The only seeds that did not survive the soaking were thenavy beans. They just slipped out of their skins. The potatoes have been interesting. The first year Iplanted potatoes I planted them without soaking them but sprayed themafter they came up. I wet them down (not soaking) after they were 6 or8 inches tall. Then about three weeks later I just sprayed a mist overthem. They had some very small holes in them but they produced goodpotatoes. The next year I soaked them before planting and misted themwhen they came up. Last year I had several self-sow potatoes. Itransplanted them but used no peroxide on them. I have had self-sowsquash that came from plants that were peroxide grown and they werebug free without using peroxide. In 2002 I used one ounce of 40% peroxide per gallon. Justabout every thing that was green was sprayed and the results were abig surprise to my wife and me, We had no mosquitoes or any otherflying bugs in our yard. There were a few ladybugs but they were fewand far between. I don't think the peroxide had any thing to do withthe ladybugs directly. However, the lack of bugs for them to eat wouldbe my guess why there were so few. The vegetable that gave me a problem was the cabbage. Iwas determined to conquer the cabbageworm. Years ago I sprayed thecabbage plants with peroxide to no avail. This year I soaked thecabbage seeds before planting them. There were no signs of the buguntil the cabbage plants were almost full grown, then I poured about aquarter of cup of 8% peroxide over the cabbage, letting it flow downinto the layers of the leaves. That stopped the cabbage bugs. This year I will use hydrogen peroxide more freely onevery thing that is alive and green in my yard and garden. For more information click on links below.Studies Reveal How Cells Sense OxygenClue to spread of cancer discoveredhttp://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 > > I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6. > Does anyone have experience in this area? > -- From the LDN website... 5 with prostate cancer (no prior hormone-blocking therapy) (Although recently-diagnosed prostate cancer patients who have not received other therapies appear to do well on LDN, patients with prostate cancer who have already been treated with hormone-related therapies, including testosterone-blocking drugs and PC-Spes, have not responded to LDN.) http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ldn_and_cancer.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Thank you for your reply. If I had one lupron (sp) shot (over a year and a half ago) that lasts three months knock me our to use 'lowdosenaltrexona'? Thank you, Arthur > > > > I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6. > > Does anyone have experience in this area? > > > > -- > > From the LDN website... > > 5 with prostate cancer (no prior hormone-blocking therapy) > > (Although recently-diagnosed prostate cancer patients who have not > received other therapies appear to do well on LDN, patients with > prostate cancer who have already been treated with hormone-related > therapies, including testosterone-blocking drugs and PC-Spes, have not > responded to LDN.) > > http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ldn_and_cancer.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ldn_and_cancer.htmOn Jun 17, 2006, at 9:55 AM, arthurfreeman wrote:I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6.Does anyone have experience in this area?__. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 > > > > > > I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6. > > > Does anyone have experience in this area? > > > -- As someone who's never had prostate cancer I can only quote from the LDN website. Perhaps another member here can give you a better answer, although it would appear Lupron falls into the category of medications that render LDN impotent against cancer. Lupron Depot belongs to a class of drugs called gonadotropin- releasing hormone (GnRH) agonists. It is used to decrease the body's production of specific hormones, natural chemicals that influence the behavior of certain cells. Because Lupron Depot can reduce the production of both male and female hormones, it is used to treat specific conditions in men, women, and children. http://www.lupron.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 > > I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer stage 1 Gleason 6. > Does anyone have experience in this area? > Yes my Father was diagnosed last year with the same disease but I don't remember what the gleason reading was...anyway he was in a lot of pain and the oncologist of course wanted to start chemo, radiation and failing that, the knife. My brother in law who is ten years younger than my dad had the same diagnoses at this time and he opted for the knife. My Dad did as my mother (the naturopath)suggested and hightailed it for the hills and went on a pure juice diet,that means nothing but the juice,of selected vegetables, no pulp at all for thirty days and started using Oncolyn which is the best cancer fighting cure we know of,In just ten days dad was pain free and from there on he never looked back.BTW he also ate cured dandylion root it is also supposed to help. Today a year later he is cancer free and doing very well!My brother in law on the other hand is also cancer free but his quality of life has really suffered. I know that if for some reason I develope cancer I will be putting these treatments to work for me, I just thought you should hear this as Oncolyn is never mentioned anywhere yet it really does work!Plus the diet has a lot to do with it. Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Hi Everyone, Question. My husband was dx'd with prostate cancer in Jan. He had Cryotherapy done. Would he be a candidate for LDN? Cryotherapy is-- Freezing the prostate. thawing then refreezing to kill the cancer. He had TURP done last year for enlarged prostate. No drugs involved. We find out next month if the cancer is gone. Help please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 > > Hi Everyone, > Question. My husband was dx'd with prostate cancer in Jan. He had > Cryotherapy done. Would he be a candidate for LDN? Cryotherapy is- - > Freezing the prostate. thawing then refreezing to kill the cancer. He > had TURP done last year for enlarged prostate. No drugs involved. We > find out next month if the cancer is gone. Help please. > This is what the LDN website has to say about prostate cancer: Although recently-diagnosed prostate cancer patients who have not received other therapies appear to do well on LDN, patients with prostate cancer who have already been treated with hormone-related therapies, including testosterone-blocking drugs and PC-Spes, have not responded to LDN. http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ldn_and_cancer.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Hi Art, Thanks for the feed back. I'll read up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 > > Hi Everyone, > Question. My husband was dx'd with prostate cancer in Jan. He had > Cryotherapy done. Would he be a candidate for LDN? Cryotherapy is-- > Freezing the prostate. thawing then refreezing to kill the cancer. He > had TURP done last year for enlarged prostate. No drugs involved. We > find out next month if the cancer is gone. Help please. > Hi. I have been on 3.0 Ldn for MS for 4 years. 6 month ago my psa count was 15.6 they checked my prostate and I had cancer . so they gave a lupron shot. 4 month later psa count was 3.0 so ldn did not help me. Calvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 > > > > Hi Everyone, > > Question. My husband was dx'd with prostate cancer in Jan. He had > > Cryotherapy done. Would he be a candidate for LDN? Cryotherapy is-- > > Freezing the prostate. thawing then refreezing to kill the cancer. He > > had TURP done last year for enlarged prostate. No drugs involved. We > > find out next month if the cancer is gone. Help please. > > > Hi. I have been on 3.0 Ldn for MS for 4 years. 6 month ago my psa > count was 15.6 they checked my prostate and I had cancer . so they > gave a lupron shot. 4 month later psa count was 3.0 so ldn did not > help me. > Calvin. >Hi Calvin, Thanks for your input. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Wonder how this squares with the other studies that show that soy isoflavones act as xenoestrogens, which have a feminizing effect on men and boys, and promote uterine, breast and ovarian cancers in women? Blessings! Arthur www.BestZapper.com www.ForgetDrugs.com www.ForgetPills.com prostate cancer Increased intake of soy isoflavones may cut the risk of prostate cancer by 58 %, suggests a new study from Japan. The research, published in the Journal of Nutrition, adds to an earlier study that claimed to be the first prospective study to report an inverse association between isoflavone and prostate cancer in Japanese men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Yes, but is the Japanese soy processed differently than they do in America? --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jerome Mittelman <jmittelman@...> chelationdiscussiongroup <chelationdiscussiongroup-owner >, Alan Dattner <drdattner@...>, dentalwizard <dentalwizard >, " Dra.alternacare " <alternacare >, Dr <Dr >, mercury fillings fillings <mercuryfillings >, Mercury Forums Forums <forum@...>, pralt-discuss group <noreplygooglegroups> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 13:35:39 -0400 Subject: prostate cancer Message-ID: <F7A78E3A-2569-4C5E-8D7E-C94700F03F8A@...> Soy Isoflavones may cut the risk of prostate cancer by 60% A new case-control study recruited 200 Japanese men with prostate cancer ranging from stage 1 (1 man) to stage 4 (24 men). Their dietary intake of soy was evaluated and compared to that of cancer- free men. Intake of the Soy Isoflavones Genistein and Daidzein was significantly associated with a decreased risk of prostate cancer. When comparing the highest average isoflavone intake of 90mg or greater to the lowest of 30.5mg or less, having 90mg or greater of Soy Isoflavones daily was associated with a 58% decreased risk of developing prostate cancer. The study is published in the August 2007 issue of the Journal of Nutrition. J. Hickey, RPh Jerome Mittelman, DDS, FAPM jmittelman@... For free sample of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS, reply with your street or pob address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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