Re: interesting question to ask

[Guest guest]

For some reason we invest a lot of energy into looking for some magical answer that would let us eat more and worry less. Sometimes we just need to stop at the simple and obvious explanation. The finger of obesity needs to be pointed at calories consumed and activity level expended.. Simply energy balance. If our body is consuming food for fuel, it doesn't matter so much what it is, since it's being consumed. It's mainly the excess food we consume that will start clogging our pipes, and messing with our insulin resistance, as we try to store it for later use. While there are subtle marginal differences in how we burn food for energy, there are far larger differences in how we deal with excess consumption. Occam's razor... Stop looking for a more complex answer when the simple one explains it adequately. JROn Feb 27, 2011, at 4:03 PM, will hopkins wrote:

I just watched the documentary 'Fat Head' by Tom Naughton. In this film, he mocks Spurlocks' 'Super Size Me', and decides to see if one can lose weight while eating fast food for 30 days. The part about the cholesterol threw me for a loop. After purposely eating saturated fat after the experiment was over, it was discovered his bad cholesterol levels actually lowered?? Not to mention that he was able to lose 12lbs while eating fast food. This documentary seems to point the finger of obesity and disease to sugars, carbs, and starches.

Has anyone else seen this documentary? If so, what are your thoughts of it??

[Guest guest]

I haven’t seen the documentary. But it sounds like an experiment of one or two. As Walford would say, one or two mice is not science. Also besides weight and lipids, what about other biomarkers like BP for example? Remember lots of thin people die young so we already know there’s more to living long than weight alone.

OTOH, we have whole populations like the Okinawans and the Mediterraneans which pretty much proves that certain diets promote longevity. I’m sticking to those.

On 2/27/11 6:07 PM, " john roberts " <robertsjohnh@...> wrote:

For some reason we invest a lot of energy into looking for some magical answer that would let us eat more and worry less. Sometimes we just need to stop at the simple and obvious explanation. The finger of obesity needs to be pointed at calories consumed and activity level expended.. Simply energy balance.

If our body is consuming food for fuel, it doesn't matter so much what it is, since it's being consumed. It's mainly the excess food we consume that will start clogging our pipes, and messing with our insulin resistance, as we try to store it for later use. While there are subtle marginal differences in how we burn food for energy, there are far larger differences in how we deal with excess consumption.

Occam's razor... Stop looking for a more complex answer when the simple one explains it adequately.

JR

On Feb 27, 2011, at 4:03 PM, will ! hopkins wrote:

I just watched the documentary 'Fat Head' by Tom Naughton. In this film, he mocks Spurlocks' 'Super Size Me', and decides to see if one can lose weight while eating fast food for 30 days. The part about the cholesterol threw me for a loop. After purposely eating saturated fat after the experiment was over, it was discovered his bad cholesterol levels actually lowered?? Not to mention that he was able to lose 12lbs while eating fast food. This documentary seems to point the finger of obesity and disease to sugars, carbs, and starches.

Has anyone else seen this documentary? If so, what are your thoughts of it??

[Guest guest]

It's available on Netflix Instant Watch. Interestingly most reviews on Netflix

rate this documentary as a 5 (very good) or a 1 (very bad) with an average just

over 3. Amazon.com reviewers are far more positive. Personally really liked

the non-establishment viewpoints and thought it was very insightful.

For a subset of this documentary,

" Why You Got Fat "

http://www.squidoo.com/FatHeadMovieReview-TomNaughton

Other thoughts. Suspect someone from the fast food industry might have put him

up to this effort.

Neglects omega3 versus omega6 considerations.

Pretty much agree with most of his presentation.

Actually somewhat amazed how much insight he has considering he's some kind of a

computer programmer or software engineer. Anyway doesn't claim to be any king of

a scientist or nutritionist.

a=z

PS He might be only 1 mouse or rat, but he's a pretty darn smart mouse or rat.

:-)

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> I just watched the documentary 'Fat Head' by Tom Naughton. In this film, he

mocks Spurlocks' 'Super Size Me', and decides to see if one can lose

weight while eating fast food for 30 days. The part about the cholesterol threw

me for a loop. After purposely eating saturated fat after the experiment was

over, it was discovered his bad cholesterol levels actually lowered?? Not to

mention that he was able to lose 12lbs while eating fast food. This documentary

seems to point the finger of obesity and disease to sugars, carbs, and starches.

> Has anyone else seen this documentary? If so, what are your thoughts of it??

>

[Guest guest]

I am not surprised that his cholesterol went down by eating less. Why wouldn't his cholesterol drop by eating a lot less?On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:03 PM, will hopkins <frenic03@...> wrote:

 

I just watched the documentary 'Fat Head' by Tom Naughton. In this film, he mocks Spurlocks' 'Super Size Me', and decides to see if one can lose weight while eating fast food for 30 days. The part about the cholesterol threw me for a loop. After purposely eating saturated fat after the experiment was over, it was discovered his bad cholesterol levels actually lowered?? Not to mention that he was able to lose 12lbs while eating fast food. This documentary seems to point the finger of obesity and disease to sugars, carbs, and starches.

Has anyone else seen this documentary? If so, what are your thoughts of it??