+Re: Regarding high protein diets

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> > Actually, the have looked at it and there are many studies on the raw food diet..> > http://www.beyondveg.com/cat/links-out/raw-research.shtml> Oh excellent information. Thank you for this.> and an overview of the movement..> > http://www.beyondveg.com/tu-j-l/raw-cooked/raw-cooked-1a.shtmlThe sad truth is, there is a lot of fruits and nuts in the movement...any movement. Don't you find it's the loudest most strident, hysterical voices advocating anything that make it impossible to engage in rational discourse?> > What the raw food movement is good at is misrepresenting science, Oh Lord, yes. I totally agree.> You would have to me more specific about what benefits you are speaking of, and how raw food directly increased them. Elimination of asthma (that ranged from severe to mild), sinus problems, allergies, gastritis (confirmed by endoscopy) and skeletal aches and pains. CRON alone did not alleviate these health problems. I also tried CRON + Dean Ornish's low fat plan. Didn't do it for me. Another reason I stopped raw was because of the high reliance on seeds and nuts, high in fat...big no no according to Ornish.Come to think of it, maybe a benefit I received from raw WAS all the omega 3 to 6 fat ratio. I did try taking fish oil supplements on regular CRON but they killed me gastritis-wise. Hmm, maybe I'll try adding back a lot of seeds and nuts with what I'm doing now. Most of the benefit of the raw food movement do not come from the percentage of raw foods but from 1) the exclusion of many of the harmful aspects of the typical Western diet including the high amounts of processed, refined foods, salt, sugar, cholesterol, sat fat etc. Absolutely. Another reason raw is a misnomer. It is really a short-hand for a collection of dietary additions and restrictions...not all of them I would consider healthy. For instance, I do not use coconut oil. But I find one must be informed or one could do harm on any diet. I had a problem with CRON when I made a nutrient rich soup base from cooked veggies to get my daily calcium/zinc req. It suppressed my thyroid function. (My thyroid numbers reversed when I stopped the soup base.)Perhaps the biggest benefit for the neo-raw food movement (as opposed to the classic raw movement) is artistic. It's the nutrient dense, crap avoiding recipes created by serious chefs that make eating "raw" a pleasure and means I'll stick with it in some form or another. Yum, my mouth waters over a raw enchilada recipe of sunflower seed pate wrapped in spinach tortilla with mango salsa and the walnut "burger" on a bun made from dehydrated onions and the almond hummus with marinated veggies.Another benefit, my skin really does glow eating raw. Why? Dunno. I went for a number of months eating cooked carrots, broccoli and a small number of almonds for breakfast every morning. Didn't get the glow or the inflammation reduction I did on raw. Why not? Couldn't tell you. I just didn't. I'm just one lab rat grateful for the scientific approach to nutrition and the information I glean from this list. I find the scientific studies necessary, but just not sufficient in my continuously refined search for a long and healthy life.Cheers,Andie