Re: Regarding insulin

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I appreciate your response to question his authority. That was IMO one of the better lessons learned from reading Walford (RIP).. not that he had all the answers either, but he taught us to question stuff. I recall reading at least one medical claim made in the Rosedale lecture that appeared to me that he misspoke or was misquoted, but on the whole I found this lecture very useful to explain adult onset diabetes and other metabolic syndrome pathways associated with carbohydrate metabolism and energy balance. I repeat this was a public lecture, not a scientific paper so he may have exaggerated a little for effect. Especially if he was speaking extemporaneously over a few hours. IIRC at the time of this lecture, he was a physician with a diabetes practice. SInce then (1999) the popularity of this lecture, circulated freely on the internet, has caused a number of others to try to co-opt some of his respect, and IIRC he even tried to market a diet book, after seeing so many less credible writers make a huge pile of money (think back to 10 years ago). As I said before, I am not endorsing anything offered for sale in his name, not even the websites that host copies of this lecture, just his words that I trust are not altered, while I wouldn't mind it if he edited the lecture himself. I don't think he ever did. His name at the end on the bass website gives the impression that he signed that version. AFAIK it is an unauthorized transcription, like all the others.. I am even disappointed that he allows his words to be associated with some of the more mercenary voices on the internet, but I don't get the sense that he has paid much attention to this. Certainly not as much as his fans do. Just because Mercola quotes him, doesn't make Rosedale wrong, any more than it makes Mercola more credible to quote Rosedale. While Mercola can be correct about a few things along the way on his struggle to sell poop over the internet. I am only asking folks to read this lecture with an open mind. Discard what doesn't ring true. I personally found it useful enough to search for today and find what looks like a relatively clean copy of this 10+ year old lecture. The first few hits on google were from mercola's website, where I wouldn't send anybody. Here is another link http://bodye.com/insulin1.htm to what looks like the same lecture. I hope the lady with Hypoglycemia will glance at this.. I promise it will be more at least as useful as studying raw food diets (much more IMO). But don't just take his word for anything.. Use it as a starting point to build your own knowledge base about sugar metabolism. Especially if that is a personal health issue.JROn Jun 5, 2010, at 6:51 PM, Francesca Skelton wrote:

He has some pretty wild contentions. How does he know we “should” be living to 130-140? Nobody’s ever done it. And I’m always skeptical about the statement that “aging is a disease” which some of the extremists like Aubrey DeGray like to postulate. Aging is a natural state that we can’t deny. Every living thing ages and eventually dies! We may be able to slow it down some, but nature eventually wins out.

I went to Rosedale’s website. He will soon be selling “products” - unfortunately.

On 6/5/10 6:20 PM, "john roberts" <robertsjohnhbellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:

While I will keep my mouth shut about the raw foodism screed, so I'll leave that at +1 to whatever Jeffery said.. Regarding sugar metabolism (reactive hypoglycemia?) I have one suggested reading link.

Believe it or not, our sugar metabolism insulin response is affected by more than the obvious last meal ingested. While what we consume is the literal cause of whatever response, how our body reacts to and deals with consumed sugar is also affect by the state of our musculature. So while not very obvious there can be a connection between exercise patterns (or muscle tone) and insulin response.

I highly recommend reading this classic lecture by Dr. Rosedale on the subject of insulin/sugar and related metabolic interactions. I believe this lecture was to a lay group and transcribed litera! lly as given so perhaps not medically strict. It has also been co-opted by sundry web merchants to ply whatever, so please don't let that taint the content of this lecture. It is IMO good solid basic information we should all know about our insulin pathways.

http://drbass.com/rosedale2.html

I am not endorsing Dr. Bass's website, by association or even Rosedale's (later) diet book.. Just this one lecture. I had to search around to find this free copy. Mercola seems to be riding on this coat tail, too.

JR

On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:36 PM, helenmartirosova wrote:

Hello All

I am new to the site but wanted to introduce myself, I a grad student currently studying the link between Alzheimer's and diabetes. Ironically partially due to depression which compounded some bad eating choices I developed reactive hypoglycemia. I have significant interest in CRON for health reasons (and partially professional)but am a bit weary about having to do so much work to measure everything that I eat for correct ratios.

I was wondering if anyone here is also familiar with the raw food diet and if anyone has attempted to do a CRON version of this?

(Raw food diets have some scientific back up as they do reduce the levels of advanced glycolation end products). I would love to try it out but am a bit scared about developing a deficiency.

Additionally after reading earlier posts I noticed the popularity of high protein diets but I wanted to say that there are risk factors associated with these type of diets (For example Molecular Neurodegenration published an article linking this type of diet to Alzheimer's)

Thanks HM