Coconut Oil

[Guest guest]

Hello Lois,

Some time ago, we did a survey on the group on various coconut oil brands and

their flavors. You can find it here:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/coconut5.php

Short answer: the coconut-ness of various oils will vary.

Hope this helps,

andra

group moderator

>

>

> I just finished a bottle of CO from Jarroe Formulas that is extra virgin

Organic,

> expelier pressed. It tasted just like coconut and very pleasant.

> I just opened a bottle from Spectrum Organic expeller pressed and it tastes

> like oil, not coconut oil.

> Should CO taste like coconut?

>

> Lois

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching out!

Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I can see

the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

>

+++Hi KK,

It has not leached plastic from the jar!

Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy, but

there is nothing wrong with it.

You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Just to follow up on this: Are you saying the plastic jars that some coconut

oils come in (i.e., Jarrow, Whole Foods, etc.) pose no threat of toxic leeching?

I have purposely avoided these brands for this very reason, and instead having

been paying more for brands that come in glass jars (Garden of Life), thinking

they were safer. I'm very interested to hear your response--it could save me a

lot of money over the course of a year. Thanks!

> >

> > I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching

out! Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I

can see the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

> >

> +++Hi KK,

>

> It has not leached plastic from the jar!

>

> Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy, but

there is nothing wrong with it.

>

> You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

The jar is slick on the outside so I know the oil has to be coming thru the

plastic. The WHOLE jar has oil on the outside of it.

> > >

> > > I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching

out! Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I

can see the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

> > >

> > +++Hi KK,

> >

> > It has not leached plastic from the jar!

> >

> > Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy,

but there is nothing wrong with it.

> >

> > You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > >

> > > I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching

out! Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I

can see the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

> > >

> > +++Hi KK,

> >

> > It has not leached plastic from the jar!

> >

> > Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy,

but there is nothing wrong with it.

> >

> > You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> The jar is slick on the outside so I know the oil has to be coming thru the

plastic. The WHOLE jar has oil on the outside of it.

+++Hi there.

The reason there's oil on the outside of the plastic is NOT because it is coming

through the plastic, which is impossible.

It is because oil got on the outside from the top. Maybe a loose lid?

Bee

[Guest guest]

I believe the problem you're having is with physics, not plastic. When I used to

keep my olive oil on the counter, I noticed that the outside of the container

would become oily after a time in both plastic and glass jars. What it is, is we

just don't notice the slight amount of oil that gets on the jar lid, rim or edge

and drips down onto the outside. After some accumulates, then we notice. It

happens especially when the coconut oil liquifies.

I assure you that the plastic isn't leaking. To test my theory, go to the health

store and touch the sides of the plastic jars with coconut oil in them.

Nan

>Re: Coconut Oil

Posted by: " justlilolememe " justlilolememe@... justlilolememe

Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:40 pm (PDT)

The jar is slick on the outside so I know the oil has to be coming thru the

plastic. The WHOLE jar has oil on the outside of it.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> During night time where i live it cools in the night making my CO go

> solid. Then during the next day its returning to about half liquid.

>

> Will this pose a problem with the CO, decreasing it's shelf life or

maybe making it go rancid quicker? It's not like freezing meat then

thawing and then refreezing cause the temps just drop's down to where the CO

goes solid. I'm not sure of the exact temp change as i don't have a therm that

has readings on it. My guessumption is it is fine, just wanna be safe.

>

> Thanks again..... Caine.....

>

@@ Hi Caine,

Your speculation is correct. Its fine. What you describe above, is not a

concern for Coconut oil going rancid before you get around to using it up.

The reasons for rancidity are below:

* Temperature: decomposition rate increases as temperature rises

* Time

* Light (photo oxidation): in the presence of oxygen, light

promotes oxidation of unsaturated fatty acids

* Water

* Catalysts: trace metal ions, metalloproteins and inorganic salts

Coconut oil has a very high heating temperature and the rest above do not apply

to Coconut Oil. Coconut may fluctuate as you describe without a problem, since

it is quite a resilient oil.

Journey onwards,

Ed

group moderator

[Guest guest]

Dear Caines,

Ed answered your question, but I want to point out that coconut oil is about

92.1% saturated fat, so it keeps well without being refrigerated for 2 years.

It doesn't matter whether it goes more solid and melts many times.

Bee

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> During night time where i live it cools in the night making my CO go

> solid. Then during the next day its returning to about half liquid.

>

> Will this pose a problem with the CO, decreasing it's shelf life or

> maybe making it go rancid quicker? It's not like freezing meat then

> thawing and then refreezing cause the temps just drop's down to where the CO

goes solid. I'm not sure of the exact temp change as i don't have a therm that

has readings on it. My guessumption is it is fine, just wanna be safe.

>

> Thanks again..... Caine.....

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

Thanks Ed for an awesome explanation.

Much appreciated... Caine.....

>

> @@ Hi Caine,

>

> Your speculation is correct. Its fine. What you describe above, is not

a concern for Coconut oil going rancid before you get around to using it

up.

>

> The reasons for rancidity are below:

>

>

> * Temperature: decomposition rate increases as temperature rises

> * Time

> * Light (photo oxidation): in the presence of oxygen, light

> promotes oxidation of unsaturated fatty acids

> * Water

> * Catalysts: trace metal ions, metalloproteins and inorganic salts

>

> Coconut oil has a very high heating temperature and the rest above do

not apply to Coconut Oil. Coconut may fluctuate as you describe without

a problem, since it is quite a resilient oil.

>

> Journey onwards,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Thats good to know since my temps dip pretty cold during the night here.

Thanks again.... caine.....

>

> Dear Caines,

>

> Ed answered your question, but I want to point out that coconut oil is

about 92.1% saturated fat, so it keeps well without being refrigerated

for 2 years. It doesn't matter whether it goes more solid and melts many

times.

>

> Bee

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee and group -

Like Caine, my coconut oil is doing the same thing this hot summer -

so I was wondering the exact same thing. And I am relieved to know this

change in consistency does not affect it.

But I am also wondering one more thing -

I am pretty sure you will confirm that this does not affect it either,

but just want to make sure:

having the coconut oil travel in a suitcase and it being put in the

cargo compartment of an airplane ?

Not exactly sure how much temperature change that space is exposed to,

but I have to believe it is pretty extreme.

Will this exposure and resulting change in consistency affect the

quality of the CO ?

Thanks much,

Sincerely,

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee and group -

>

> Like Caine, my coconut oil is doing the same thing this hot summer -

> so I was wondering the exact same thing. And I am relieved to know this

change in consistency does not affect it.

>

> But I am also wondering one more thing - I am pretty sure you will confirm

that this does not affect it either, but just want to make sure: having the

coconut oil travel in a suitcase and it being put in the cargo compartment of an

airplane ?

>

> Not exactly sure how much temperature change that space is exposed to, but I

have to believe it is pretty extreme. Will this exposure and resulting change in

consistency affect the quality of the CO ?

+++Hi ,

High temperatures in the cargo area will not affect the quality of CO at all.

However, you need to be cautious about scanners in airports, since they can

damage supplements, coconut oil, cod liver oil, etc.

To protect them from scanners, I wrap them in aluminum foil and put them inside

an insulated bag that is lined with aluminum foil. First, I put liquids a

sealed plastic bag in case of leakage.

Cod liver oil should be insulated by wrapping it with bubble wrap like iHerb

does when shipping it - with aluminum foil over it.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Frances,

The important thing about coconut oil is that is be unbleached, unrefined, and

undeodorized. I think 365 is OK, but check the label. In general, ordering

coconut oil online is cheaper than buying it in the store, particularly at Whole

Foods.

If you have ever had burning in your throat or bowels before, you could be

retracing it. Also, be sure that you haven't increased your coconut oil amounts

too quickly. Some people have quite strong reactions and going slowly is

better.

Hope that helps,

andra

group moderator

>

> 1. I found unrefined coconut oil at whole foods. It's'by 365 organic. Is there

a better one I should be using, or is this ok?

>

> 2. Since beginning with coconut oil, which i rather like and tolerate pretty

well, i find that it can give me some acid in my throat after eating it, also I

find it burns a lot sometimes when I move my bowels. I don't mind it, but I am

wondering why this is happening and if this is good! Or does it mean I am doing

something wrong?

>

> At this point, i am not worrying about ratios, and sometimes I think I am

eating too much beef! But I feel great and am more worried about getting the

sugar and carbs out of my diet-and have reduced significantly. my constipation

is almost gone now i have boosted the coconut oil, so i don't want to cut down

on that.

>

> I will be back home in about two weeks and will read up more at that time, and

calculate the ratios, but I want to know if thr oil I am using is OK because I

can search for other kinds while i am still here in the city. I am hoping to lay

in a good supply before I go, as it will save me a lot in postage.

>

> Thanks for everything! Frances

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, all!

> I have been a lurker on the list for a long time. I have read the many

reminders to read the articles for advice. I have read all the main articles

many times. I am working in New York City as a tour guide. The season is about

to end, and I want to stock up on coconut oil before returning to my home in

upstate NY. I have only recently begun on the program in earnest. I'm trying to

wean myself off carbs and sugar. As I am not home, I have only my phone to read

mails and have trouble accessing websites. I have a few questions, and I can't

really search the websites. So please excuse me for asking questions which might

be answered on the websites. Here goes-

+++Hi Frances. Welcome to our group.

>

> 1. I found unrefined coconut oil at whole foods. It's'by 365 organic. Is there

a better one I should be using, or is this ok?

+++People on this group find it is cheaper to buy almost all of the supplements

I recommend, along with Nutiva Coconut Oil from iHerb. If you haven't ordered

from iHerb previously, and you go through my website you get $5.00 off your

first order if you give them my Rewards Number (also I get some commissions from

such orders):

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/iherb.php

>

> 2. Since beginning with coconut oil, which i rather like and tolerate pretty

well, i find that it can give me some acid in my throat after eating it, also I

find it burns a lot sometimes when I move my bowels. I don't mind it, but I am

wondering why this is happening and if this is good! Or does it mean I am doing

something wrong?

+++Coconut oil helps your body detoxify and toxins coming out can cause burning

sensations. That's why it is important to start with small amounts like 1

teaspoon 2-3 times a day, always with meals that contain meats or eggs, and

slowly increase them, maybe every 3-4 days. If you can tolerate the symptoms

carry on, since we cannot avoid all detox and healing reactions in order to get

healthy.

>

> At this point, i am not worrying about ratios, and sometimes I think I am

eating too much beef! But I feel great and am more worried about getting the

sugar and carbs out of my diet-and have reduced significantly. my constipation

is almost gone now i have boosted the coconut oil, so i don't want to cut down

on that.

+++Beef is very healthy, so do not be concerned. That's great you don't have

constipation. However, if you've had it in the past your body will still be

" retracing " every episode while it is healing itself, so you may expect that in

future - see this article to understand retracing:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

>

> I will be back home in about two weeks and will read up more at that time, and

calculate the ratios, but I want to know if thr oil I am using is OK because I

can search for other kinds while i am still here in the city. I am hoping to lay

in a good supply before I go, as it will save me a lot in postage.

+++I wouldn't know if 365 Coconut Oil is okay. Like andra advised it must

be unrefined, undeodorized, unbleached, and non-hydrogenated.

+++I'm in London, Ontario, which is a long ways from California where iHerb is

located, and I order from them. When my order is large enough it saves on

shipping costs. For about $300.00 worth I only paid $21.00 for shipping, plus

about $23.00 for duty and taxes (I order 4 of everything at a time). It still

saved me a lot of money compared to buying locally.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Frances,

I am using Nutiva and don't know about the Whole Foods 365 Coconut Oil. But it

sounds expensive, since it is probably in a relatively small jar.

For the first time I will order now from " mountain rose herbs " . You find the

link on Bee;'s homepage.

They have 1 Gallon Virgin Coconut Oil for $39.00 plus shipping.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkoil/a-c.php#oac_coc_u

This will still be cheaper than Whole Foods.

Pia

>

> Hi, all!

> I have been a lurker on the list for a long time. I have read the many

reminders to read the articles for advice. I have read all the main articles

many times. I am working in New York City as a tour guide. The season is about

to end, and I want to stock up on coconut oil before returning to my home in

upstate NY. I have only recently begun on the program in earnest. I'm trying to

wean myself off carbs and sugar. As I am not home, I have only my phone to read

mails and have trouble accessing websites. I have a few questions, and I can't

really search the websites. So please excuse me for asking questions which might

be answered on the websites. Here goes-

>

> 1. I found unrefined coconut oil at whole foods. It's'by 365 organic. Is there

a better one I should be using, or is this ok?

>

> 2. Since beginning with coconut oil, which i rather like and tolerate pretty

well, i find that it can give me some acid in my throat after eating it, also I

find it burns a lot sometimes when I move my bowels. I don't mind it, but I am

wondering why this is happening and if this is good! Or does it mean I am doing

something wrong?

>

> At this point, i am not worrying about ratios, and sometimes I think I am

eating too much beef! But I feel great and am more worried about getting the

sugar and carbs out of my diet-and have reduced significantly. my constipation

is almost gone now i have boosted the coconut oil, so i don't want to cut down

on that.

>

> I will be back home in about two weeks and will read up more at that time, and

calculate the ratios, but I want to know if thr oil I am using is OK because I

can search for other kinds while i am still here in the city. I am hoping to lay

in a good supply before I go, as it will save me a lot in postage.

>

> Thanks for everything! Frances

>

[Guest guest]

Coconut oil is supposed to contain 3 powerful anti-fungals. My own experience

with it is *excellent.* I *highly* recommend it!!!!!

Louise

From: grasshopperx_10 <woody1014@...>

Subject: does coconut oil REALLY kill yeasts

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:58 AM

 

Does coconut oil really kill yeast?

Is this true? I am always skeptical?

I bought some anyway, add that as a food, trying a bit of everything. Oil of

oregeno, coconut, real garlic. I figure anything i can eat cant hurt.

Joan Is this true? coconut oil? cindy

     

[Guest guest]

I'm trying it, It cant hurt. I'm going to eat some too.

>

> Coconut oil is supposed to contain 3 powerful anti-fungals. My own experience

with it is *excellent.* I *highly* recommend it!!!!!

> Louise

>

>

>

>

> From: grasshopperx_10 <woody1014@...>

> Subject: does coconut oil REALLY kill yeasts

> candidiasis

> Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:58 AM

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> Does coconut oil really kill yeast?

> Is this true? I am always skeptical?

> I bought some anyway, add that as a food, trying a bit of everything. Oil of

oregeno, coconut, real garlic. I figure anything i can eat cant hurt.

> Joan Is this true? coconut oil? cindy

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[Guest guest]

Yes, Lauric acid is most powerful anti-fungal agent in coconut oil but due to

the penetration limitation it does not seem to fungicidal but it is certainly

fungistatic.

 

A.P. Garg

From: grasshopperx_10 <woody1014@...>

Subject: does coconut oil REALLY kill yeasts

candidiasis

Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 12:58 AM

 

Does coconut oil really kill yeast?

Is this true? I am always skeptical?

I bought some anyway, add that as a food, trying a bit of everything. Oil of

oregeno, coconut, real garlic. I figure anything i can eat cant hurt.

Joan Is this true? coconut oil? cindy

     

[Guest guest]

>

> Hello Again,

>

> Ok, I am really reading everything and trying to work this program to the best

> of my abilities. I have purchased most of the supplements and have been eating

> very well. 

>

> My question is, I bought Efa Gold Coconut Oil (pure extra virgin)it is in

solid form. Is this what I should be using? Do people eat this solid or do you

use it in foods? Can I melt it in water and then drink it? Or, am I using the

wrong thing?

+++Hi April,

I'm not familiar with that coconut oil, so please ensure it is cold- or

expeller- pressed, unrefined, unbleached, undeodorized and non-hydrogenated.

Hopefully you are reading 2 important articles:

How to Successfully Overcome Candida:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

Curing Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

This is what is written about unrefined coconut oil in the first article:

" Coconut oil is highly resistant to spoilage and has a long shelf life (2 years

at room temperature), so it is not kept refrigerated.

It is kept in the cupboard or on the kitchen counter. Like other saturated fats

coconut oil goes solid when cooled below room temperature.

Coconut oil has a high burning point and is the perfect oil for cooking. It can

be used alone, or mixed with butter, lard or other good fats for cooking and

frying.

Coconut oil can be taken by the spoonfuls with meals to aid digestion or melted

on cooked foods. "

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> okay fellow group members.

>

> where can i buy the most economical, quality coconut oil? I am looking to buy

a 5 gallon container.

>

> Thank you. I am researching right now. been looking at tropical traditions.

+++Hi Suzanne,

First, ensure you like a certain coconut oil before purchasing so much of it.

Recently there were messages posted on the group with price comparisons of

different kinds available in 5 gallon containers, so do a Search of the messages

first.

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I bought Efa Gold Coconut Oil (pure extra virgin)it is in solid

> form. Is this what I should be using? Do people eat this solid or do you use

it

> in foods? Can I melt it in water and then drink it? <<

>>> Hey April. Assuming it meets Bee's standards, you have the right stuff.

There is a favorite drink on Bee's site called " Bee's Egg Drink " in which you

mix raw eggs with melted coconut oil (and butter, etc.). This immensely helps

me get in the 5.5 Tbsp we are to have each day. Outside of my daily Egg Drink,

I melt 1 Tbsp in each of the two cups of bone broth I have daily. I have also

just melted it in hot water, which is great on these winter days.

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

Yes, it does meet all those standards, just trying to figure out how to get it

all in. I have been putting it in water and drinking it. Just wanted to make

sure I was taking the right thing. Thanks for all the tips. I am planning on

making " Bee's Egg Drink " soon. Just trying to figure this all out while running

around after three kiddos. I really appreciate you getting back to me on this.

Wow, there is so much to take in. I love hearing all the success stories.

Chugging Along,

 April

________________________________

From: kareneats2live <laurvick@...>

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 12:47:33 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Coconut Oil

 

>

> I bought Efa Gold Coconut Oil (pure extra virgin)it is in solid

> form. Is this what I should be using? Do people eat this solid or do you use

it

>

> in foods? Can I melt it in water and then drink it? <<

>>> Hey April. Assuming it meets Bee's standards, you have the right stuff.

There is a favorite drink on Bee's site called " Bee's Egg Drink " in which you

mix raw eggs with melted coconut oil (and butter, etc.). This immensely helps me

get in the 5.5 Tbsp we are to have each day. Outside of my daily Egg Drink, I

melt 1 Tbsp in each of the two cups of bone broth I have daily. I have also just

melted it in hot water, which is great on these winter days.

[Guest guest]

Hi and all, I absolutely LOVE coconut oil so I just grab a spoonful

and chug it, solid or liquid.

We're giving it to our furbaby right now. She loves it and her dandruff is

hugely improved.

kathy B

[ ] Re: Coconut Oil

>

> I bought Efa Gold Coconut Oil (pure extra virgin)it is in solid

> form. Is this what I should be using? Do people eat this solid or do you

> use it

> in foods? Can I melt it in water and then drink it? <<

>>> Hey April. Assuming it meets Bee's standards, you have the right stuff.

There is a favorite drink on Bee's site called " Bee's Egg Drink " in which

you mix raw eggs with melted coconut oil (and butter, etc.). This immensely

helps me get in the 5.5 Tbsp we are to have each day. Outside of my daily

Egg Drink, I melt 1 Tbsp in each of the two cups of bone broth I have daily.

I have also just melted it in hot water, which is great on these winter

days.

(snipped)

[Guest guest]

--- April wrote:

>I am planning on

> making " Bee's Egg Drink " soon. Just trying to figure this all out while

running

> around after three kiddos. <<

Step by step, April.... Get comfortable with what you're doing now and add it

in when you're ready for the next step. For me, I found it a wonderful time

saver: i don't have to think about " what can i eat for bfast... " I just have an

egg drink.

And, yes, it's great to be here and witnessing the healing stories...

, began 03/09/10