Guest guest Posted November 30, 2003 Report Share Posted November 30, 2003 > > > It's very hard to know Bruce, > > The story changes all the time! Don't eat this oil or > don't eat that oil, but oil is also good for us > because of the omega 3, 6 and 9 in them. I just try > really hard to stay away from the hydrogenated and > patially hydrogenated oils, because they are supposed > to be the worst to ingest. Thanks for the information, > I will need to read a bit more about oils to figure > out which ones to use. I still use the olive oil and > flax oil for food that's already been cooked... but I > am going to have to find something new to fry with. I > was told that people with dairy allergies, rarely have > reactions to butter *strange* Do you know of another > place I can get coconut other than the Internet? > Thanks! > > *8-) Hi , Where you're wrong is that the story has never changed, certain oils are bad for you. The research has always said that. Research, however, does not spend a lot of money on advertising. What happened was, the Heart and Stroke Foundation was launched with the help of Big Pharmacy, with a mind to sell heart and stroke drugs. They started disseminating incorrect information in thir brochures and media quotes about oils to eat (to get us sick and sell more drugs), and the seed oils industry quickly got on board and said " yeah, what they said, eat our oils " . In fact, the research has NEVER backed up the story. Always remember, this is not an impartial body - it's using it's quasi- authoritative clout to undermine our health, and this information, which has snowed two generations, is responsible for millions of deaths. On my coconut oil page there's a link to a document called " The Oiling Of America " by the top oils researcher, Enig. This is written so laypersons can understand it, and it's full of references. If you prefer something more scientific but still easy to read, try " Know Your Fats " by the same author. There's also a chart of some common food oils that shows just how much free radical production there is in these oils. Long-lived mammals raised on saturated fats live longer than those raised on unsaturated oils. Supplementing with products that contain omega-6 is counterproductive. We get too much omega-6 in our food already. Allergies to dairy are usually to casein, and sensitivities to lactose. Both are in milk products, except butter and to a lesser extent, whey. That's why people don't usually react to butter or whey. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Coconut oil I believe to be one of the healthiest fats in this world, holding its own against animal fat, which no other vegetable oil can even stand in the ring with. But I'm curious why your looking for a flavorless and " safe " oil? -Terry Coconut Oil and Weil > Weil is from the school of thought that saturated fats are bad, and > cholesterol is to be avoided. I have read several of his books, > even bought a cookbook of his (bombed). > > There is ample documentation in favor of coconut oil. Dr. > Enig, with considerable experience and a long list of abbreviations > after her name, has written strong and long about coconut oil. I'm > sorry to see Weil write this; it is so easy to verify the benefits > of coconut oil. westonaprice.org is a great place to start; there > are many others. > > There are about 5800 people on the " coconut oil " egroup that supply > testimonials daily on the benefits of coconut oil. My own > testimonial? I have only been using it for about 2 months, and that > only in smoothies and occasional baking. I lost 5 pounds without > noticing. I love the taste. Cravings for sugar and carbs > evaporate. That's probably what I like best about it. > > Initially, I really noticed an increase in energy, but lately, that > has levelled off. After about a week of use, there was a period of > detox, where I felt mildly achey and tired, which lasted about 3 > days. I also use it on my skin, and like the results. I have not > ever used the recommended amount (3 1/2 TBLSP / day), because it is > very pricey, and I mostly got it for my kids (and my dogs, recently > switched to raw food) who I suspect have at least some candida > overgrowth. Plus, although it is heavenly in the smoothies, coconut > flavor does not go with a lot of the stuff I cook. (I am still > looking, though!) I too would like to buy the cold pressed, (I > think that is the kind that is flavorless, but still safe?) > > It contains about 50% lauric acid, which is also well documented to > kill/inhibit a variety of bacteria, fungus and viruses (virii?). If > you put it on a pimple or a sore scratch, it heals quickly. It is > known to help hypothyroidism, and fight candida albicans, herpes, > even AIDS patients report better immune system response. Though I > don't know of any multi-year, double-blind, placebo-controlled > clinical studies conducted on humans, I think I read that some are > in progress, and I know there have been some conducted on rats. > > The clinical evidence for the oil (but there is lots for lauric > acid) may be sparse, but if you buy into Nourishing Traditions, and > the Weston A Price " I know it when I see it " dictum (Seeing is > believing!), then you ought to give it a try. Contrary to most of > the supplements I've tried, coconut oil delivers results in short > order. I noticed it the first hour. So far, I'm sold. > > Whew, sorry to be so long-winded. I get going, and can't stop! > > -Blair > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Well... I don't know about for eating/cooking, although I will be looking into it ). I buy it in 50 gallon tubs for soapmaking (which I haven't had the energy to do in months), and it works quite well for that . coconut oil from dr.weil.com I would like your input on virgin coconut oil. I have been reading that it is very good for you and has been getting a bad rap. -- Jo Anne Simers Today's Answer (Published 12/02/2003) Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend using it. Weil, M.D. _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year - six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 I've been taking coconut oil for about six months, maybe seven. My advice is that if you aren't losing weight, it would be better to get your thyroid medication increased. I have not noticed any of the touted benefits of coconut oil. Also remember if using it for weight loss that it has a lot of calories (if you're watching calories) and you can sabotage your own weight loss program with just a little bit of it. Since I have been using coconut oil, my temperature has dropped to the 97's and I have not been able to lose weight even though I am sticking to Atkins pretty strictly. So, I'm pursuing increasing my thyroid dosage. Coconut oil IS good for you, in that it is a source of Omega 3 oils that are helpful to the thyroid as well as the rest of the body. It is useful to maintain proper metabolism. It is not, unfortunately, the magical cure that people selling it claim it is. carolyneswanson <carolyneswanson@...> wrote: i've started taking coconut oil to promote weight loss. a serving size on the bottle is 4000mg from emerald labrotories. does any one have any information on this or if this works. i'm taking .150 synthroid and am feeling a bit better than i have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think Weil is wrong, especially in the belief that we should avoid all saturated fats. Humans have always consumed saturated fats. I was just reading that the Pilgrims brought barrels of preserved salted butter to America with them, and traded butter to the Indians, who were most fond of butter and beer. For another view on fats, see http://www.westonaprice.org Gracia > from dr.weil.com > > > I would like your input on virgin coconut oil. I have been reading that it > is very good for you and has been getting a bad rap. > > -- Jo Anne Simers > > Today's Answer > (Published 12/02/2003) > Coconut oil is one of the few saturated fats that doesn't come from animals, > but like other saturated fats can raise cholesterol levels and, therefore, > should play only a very limited role, if any, in your diet. In the past, it > was widely used in movie popcorn, candy bars and commercial baked goods but > was phased out of many of them during the past decade because of consumer > opposition to unhealthy tropical oils. > > Now coconut oil is being promoted on the Internet as a weight loss aid; it > is also featured in a popular book by a naturopathic doctor. The rationale > goes something like this: as a source of medium-chain triglycerides (MCT) > coconut oil isn't stored in the body as fat as readily as oils composed of > long-chain triglycerides (LCT). Some research from McGill University in > Canada suggests that this is true; MCTs also boost metabolism and satiety, > and therefore may promote weight loss when they replace LCTs in the diet. > Because they are so easily digested, MCTs' are given in hospitals to provide > nourishment for critically ill people who have trouble digesting fat. > > Promoters also note that coconut oil is high in lauric acid and contains > trace amounts of caprylic acid, both of which appear to have antiviral and > antifungal properties, and support immune function. Lauric acid is actually > present in breast milk; infants convert it to a substance called monolaurin > that protects them from infections. These two fatty acids and their effects > on health are being studied, but for now, we don't have any evidence > suggesting that coconut oil is better for you than other saturated fats. The > benefits of coconut oil in the diet, if any, are likely to be minimal, and > until we have more and better evidence about coconut oil's effect of > metabolism and potential role in promoting weight loss, I do not recommend > using it. > > Weil, M.D. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year - six months > @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 , You wrote: >I've been taking coconut oil for about six months, maybe seven. ... > Me too. >... I have not noticed any of the touted benefits of coconut oil. > Me either, but I suppose there could still be very subtle effects. The dose recommended for Carolyne was 4,000 mg. That's just 4 g, less than a teaspoonful. That's about what I have been using. >... Coconut oil IS good for you, in that it is a source of Omega 3 oils that are helpful to the thyroid as well as the rest of the body. ... > You might be thinking of fish or flax oil, which do contain omega-3 oils. Coconut oil contains medium length saturated fats, which are reputed to help the effectiveness of omega-3 oils in kidney function in cholesterol sensitive rats. The only human study I am aware of, showed that _hydrogenated_ ultra-saturated coconut oil caused a rise in total serum cholesterol. All the other claims are based on speculation or extrapolation. That was enough for me to try it ... once. However, this list does not even seem to be able to generate anecdotal evidence. That makes me even more skeptical about the claims of it preventing oxidation or racemization of lipids in vivo. Also, shop around. Some of the prices out there are truly outrageous. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Hmmm...I was told that it did contain Omega 3. I'm glad you can correct that. I've been trying a tablespoonful a day while keeping my thryoid medication and diet, and everything else, constant except for the addition of coconut oil. I have also been taking my temperature several times a day. I don't feel more energetic, and my temperature is not rising during the periods when I take the coconut oil. When I have stopped using it, there is also no effect or change. I think all it does is add calories. I have noticed that many of the sites say you have to buy a particular kind of coconut oill, virgin coconut oil or whatnot, and that no others will work. As you say, many of these are very high in price. It's a pretty common snake-oil practice, as well, when it is reported that something doesn't work, to claim that it's not the *exact* special right perfect product, with, of course, that one costing a great deal more. I have not seen any anecdotal evidence that coconut oil works, except on a couple of Atkins groups where people who were stalled in weight loss (with normal metabolisms, no thyroid disorder) added coconut oil and began losing again. Atkins works best when the fat intake is high, though, and that is probably why that worked for these people. Interestingly enough, I have found that increasing the amount of thyroid hormone taken does appear to boost the immune system. Last year, I spent a lot of money on supplements, none of which worked. I was getting a run-around by my HMO doctor, but I realized if I took all the money I had spent on supplements, I could afford a better health plan with the savings. In January, I am going to visit one of the top docs from Shomon's list, a local endocrinologist who also has Hashimoto's. Chuck Blatchley <cblatchl@...> wrote: Me either, but I suppose there could still be very subtle effects. The dose recommended for Carolyne was 4,000 mg. That's just 4 g, less than a teaspoonful. That's about what I have been using. >... Coconut oil IS good for you, in that it is a source of Omega 3 oils that are helpful to the thyroid as well as the rest of the body. ... > You might be thinking of fish or flax oil, which do contain omega-3 oils. Coconut oil contains medium length saturated fats, which are reputed to help the effectiveness of omega-3 oils in kidney function in cholesterol sensitive rats. The only human study I am aware of, showed that _hydrogenated_ ultra-saturated coconut oil caused a rise in total serum cholesterol. All the other claims are based on speculation or extrapolation. That was enough for me to try it ... once. However, this list does not even seem to be able to generate anecdotal evidence. That makes me even more skeptical about the claims of it preventing oxidation or racemization of lipids in vivo. Also, shop around. Some of the prices out there are truly outrageous. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 , You wrote: >... It's a pretty common snake-oil practice, as well, when it is reported that something doesn't work, to claim that it's not the *exact* special right perfect product, with, of course, that one costing a great deal more. ... > Right, the extra virgin oil is hand pressed by twelve year old elves from coconuts they just picked off the palm, while wearing white gloves and being careful to never letting them hit the ground. I bought the slightly less costly unprocessed but cold pressed version. The distributor assured me that it had all the same chemicals as the ones with the special treatment, the ones they can't keep on the shelves. >... I have not seen any anecdotal evidence that coconut oil works, except on a couple of Atkins groups where people who were stalled in weight loss (with normal metabolisms, no thyroid disorder) added coconut oil and began losing again. Atkins works best when the fat intake is high, though, and that is probably why that worked for these people. > I can see where it might be a healthy substitute for saturated long chain fats. The coconut fats are medium chains that break up easily. Thus, they have some properties of fat, but they should be easier to digest and convert to glucose. Thus, they also might resemble complex carbohydrates that do not stimulate insulin. This is why they were theorized to be good for hypthyroids. They were expected to boost metabolism, while contributing minimal calories. I'm still waiting for some proof, though. Chuck > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Wow...I always wondered what santas elves did when they were done working the christmas season...hehehe Deneen:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 If anyone does have an interest in cocnut oil, you might want to pick up the books written by Bruce Fife, ND: " Eat Fat Look Thin " and " The Healing Miracles of Coconut Oil. " Both books have several references to scientific studies and their outcomes. (You can even look the studies up yourself.) The dosage for " therapeutic " use is more like 3-4 tablespoons a day (I know...expensive!), but split up. " Eat Fat Look Thin " does have a section on 's Thyroid Syndrome and how coconut oil may help with that instead of having taking meds. In less than one month, my average daily temperature has gone from 96.8 F (which it had been for over 10 years and I was told by medical professionals that it was entirely normal to have such a low temp) to 98.5 F. I've enjoyed other benefits of the coconut oil, but that was the most motivating one for me. Read more about it if you are interested. I enjoyed both books. Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 --Bonnie- i use 4000mg a day in capsule form. how much do i need to take? i'm trying to lose about 20lbs - In hypothyroidism , " Nolte/Shield<michael1@c...> wrote: > If anyone does have an interest in cocnut oil, you might want to pick up the > books written by Bruce Fife, ND: " Eat Fat Look Thin " and " The Healing > Miracles of Coconut Oil. " Both books have several references to scientific > studies and their outcomes. (You can even look the studies up yourself.) > The dosage for " therapeutic " use is more like 3-4 tablespoons a day (I > know...expensive!), but split up. " Eat Fat Look Thin " does have a section > on 's Thyroid Syndrome and how coconut oil may help with that instead > of having taking meds. In less than one month, my average daily temperature > has gone from 96.8 F (which it had been for over 10 years and I was told by > medical professionals that it was entirely normal to have such a low temp) > to 98.5 F. I've enjoyed other benefits of the coconut oil, but that was the > most motivating one for me. > > Read more about it if you are interested. I enjoyed both books. > > Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Thanks, Bonnie, You are our first emphatic testimonial. You wrote: >If anyone does have an interest in cocnut oil, you might want to pick up the >books written by Bruce Fife, ND: " Eat Fat Look Thin " and " The Healing >Miracles of Coconut Oil. " Both books have several references to scientific >studies and their outcomes. ... > Fife seems to be a major promoter of coconut oil, and he claims to not be connected to any suppliers. Shomon featured him on the subject, including what must be one of those citations: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/a/coconutoilfife.htm The citation given in the paper is at (cut and paste to deal with the wrap): Journal of Nutrition 2002 Mar;132(3):329-32. http://clk.about.com/?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov%2\ Fentrez%2Fquery.fcgi%3Fcmd%3DRetrieve%26db%3DPubMed%26amp%3Blist_uids%3D11880549\ %26amp%3Bdopt%3DAbstract Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Thus, they also might resemble complex carbohydrates that do not stimulate insulin. Hi Chuck, could you elaborate more on the foods that do not stimulate insulin? thanks _________________________________________________________________ Browse styles for all ages, from the latest looks to cozy weekend wear at MSN Shopping. And check out the beauty products! http://shopping.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Hi, Carolyne: Sorry this is two days late. I'm not sure what your equivalent would be. I'm using the " rawer " form (is that a word?) that I buy from Tropical Traditions. I first started investigating it after reading about it on ph Mercola's site (www.mercola.com). And after purchasing it from him once, I decided to go straight to Tropical Traditions (I get better pricing due to ordering larger quantities.) There is more info there: www.TropicalTraditions.com. I use the VCO--Virgin Coconut Oil--as my " therapeutic " dosing as it is barely processed. For cooking I use the EPCO--Expeller Pressed Coconut Oil--which is suppose to have many beneficial properties, but is cheaper than the VCO. Capsule form may be fine; but, I wonder how it is processed. The least amount of processing, the better, IMO. I take about 4 tablespoons of the VCO a day and I feel much better and have tons more energy than before. I do hope it lasts! I'm doing a liver cleanse this weekend and then starting on Fife's Low Carbo Coconut Oil eating plan afterwards. Other than health concerns, I'm like you, I want to lose 20 lbs. (or more!) and hope this helps. I'm sure the low carbo part will help. If you're interested, there is a coconut oil discussion list: coconut-info-subscribe Take care, Bonnie ************************************************************ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:36:06 -0000 From: " carolyneswanson " <carolyneswanson@...> Subject: Re: Coconut Oil --Bonnie- i use 4000mg a day in capsule form. how much do i need to take? i'm trying to lose about 20lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 : If you do an internet search on " glycemic index " you should find tons of sites with a GI index that lists foods and where they fall on the index. The lower the GI, the less it stimulates insulin. The ONLY inert, non-insulin stimulating food out there is fat. Also, if you eat protein with carbohydrates it also lowers the effects of the carbohydrate on insulin. Hope that helps. I used to have a link to a great GI site, but I don't anymore. But a search should get you a few to choose from. Ella > Thus, they also might resemble complex > carbohydrates that do not stimulate insulin. > > Hi Chuck, > could you elaborate more on the foods that do not stimulate insulin? thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 It's " supposed " to be alot of things. It is antifungal, that one I know because it's made mostly of caprylic acid. It supposedly helps with thyroid function and weight loss if used to replace other fats in your diet. It also supposedly increases energy levels. It sounds promising, I just hope it's not the latest fad. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hi Kim; > > It's " supposed " to be alot of things. It is antifungal, that one I know > because it's made mostly of caprylic acid. It supposedly helps with > thyroid function and weight loss if used to replace other fats in your > diet. It also supposedly increases energy levels. It sounds promising, I > just hope it's not the latest fad. Kim According to the prime coconut oil as a fungucide researcher Dr. Kabara (his work is on my coconut oil page) Coconut oil is 50% to 51% LAURIC acid, capric is 7% and caprylic acid 6% or so. Lauric acid works at a far lower concentration than the other two, but caprylic acid works faster. As far as " supposed " to do a lot of things, the research that will clear things up for you is also available on my website. I assure you, it's no fad. Duncan Crow http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Oh no Ella, I was asking what complex carbs don't stimulate insulin. this is what Chuck said: Thus, they also might resemble complex > carbohydrates that do not stimulate insulin. thanks!! ----Original Message Follows---- From: " Ella " <jalilahs_soul@...> Reply-hypothyroidism hypothyroidism Subject: Re: coconut oil Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:49:10 -0000 : If you do an internet search on " glycemic index " you should find tons of sites with a GI index that lists foods and where they fall on the index. The lower the GI, the less it stimulates insulin. The ONLY inert, non-insulin stimulating food out there is fat. Also, if you eat protein with carbohydrates it also lowers the effects of the carbohydrate on insulin. _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Okay... I must be missunderstanding. ) But the GI will tell you which carbs are which. All carbs, even complex ones, stimulate insulin, but the lower on the GI scale they fall, the less impact they have on insulin stimulation. Make sense? Every single carbohydrate stimulates insulin, even complex carbs. Some just stimulate less (or more) than others is all. In other words, an orange will give you a real quick and hearty insulin spike, whereas a handful of nuts or a salad, though they WILL create an insulin response, wouldn't have the same 'rocket-fuel' type reaction that the orange would. But there's no way to get away from a complex carb that doesn't stimulate insulin at all. However, if the fiber content is equal to the carb content, then the reaction would be nearly absent. BUT, if you eat 'enough' of that carb, it will cause an insulin response. Hope I haven't confused you further. I come from a long line of diabetics, and I've done Atkins before (for nearly a year). LOL Ella > Oh no Ella, I was asking what complex carbs don't stimulate insulin. this > is what Chuck said: > > Thus, they also might resemble complex > > carbohydrates that do not stimulate insulin. > > thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Hope this helps. There is free shipping for the Coconut Oil on this web site. http://www.therawworld.com/cgi-bin/quikstore.cgi?search=yes & hits_seen=16 & categor\ y=Garden_of_Life_Products Re: rectal itch and inflammation > > > > > > I am experiencing my second round of rectal itch and inflammation. They > > were about 6 weeks apart. It never really went away but lessened > > considerably. I am using GSE, olive leaf, probiotics, inulin. I am > > rotating the anti fungals. I have used colloidal silver but not in a > > while. I have uva ursi to start. What is a topical to use? > > A candida client had the same problem, but after using ozonated olive > oil topically it was gone - right away. > > http://www.plasmafire.com > > Duncan Crow > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 > I have safflower oil, sunflower seed oil, canola oil, walnut oil, > olive oil, on hand, but can't recall seeing cooconut oil. Debra & Her > Yeastie Beasties The first four are heavy oxidizers. They make plaque in the arteries. There is no BAD cholesterol, It can be oxidized or unoxidized; that is the real link to disease. Here's an article that explains it: http://zeek.ca/4u//article.php?sid=20 and another one to put the correct slant on oxidation: http://zeek.ca/4u//article.php?sid=34 Go to my website and read The Oiling Of America by he world's top oils researcher, Enig, for the full story. It's linked from the coconut oil page. Duncan Crow http://membere/shaw.ca/duncancrow/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 > > From: Long <longc@...> > Reply- > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:53:17 -0700 > > Subject: coconut oil > > > I bought some Omega brand coconut butter. It doesn't taste very good. What > other brands have people tried and how good are they? I can cook with this > stuff but as far as taking a spoon full of it, it doesn't taste good enough > for that. It is organic. It just doesn't taste good. > > > > I've tried the Omega, and I agree, it is not very good at all. I've tried all three of the coconut oils from Wilderness Family Naturals. They're all good, and have a nice coconut taste and smell. My favorite is actually the one from the ines - they describe it as almost identical to the one they carry from India, but I think the taste is a bit more complex (perhaps because it uses a fermentation method to extract the oil). The Indian one uses a centrifuge extraction method. They also sell one from the South Pacific, which seems to have a nuttier taste, and is also very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thanks, Gene. To me, the Omega smells and tastes almost rancid but I tried frying with it and it doesn't impart any taste to the food. But I can't eat it plain. I checked out the Wilderness Family site and book marked it. I'll probably order some from them. > > > > From: Long <longc@...> > > Reply- > > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:53:17 -0700 > > > > Subject: coconut oil > > > > > > I bought some Omega brand coconut butter. It doesn't taste very good. What > > other brands have people tried and how good are they? I can cook with this > > stuff but as far as taking a spoon full of it, it doesn't taste good enough > > for that. It is organic. It just doesn't taste good. > > > > > > > > > >I've tried the Omega, and I agree, it is not very good at all. > >I've tried all three of the coconut oils from Wilderness Family Naturals. >They're all good, and have a nice coconut taste and smell. My favorite is >actually the one from the ines - they describe it as almost identical >to the one they carry from India, but I think the taste is a bit more >complex (perhaps because it uses a fermentation method to extract the oil). >The Indian one uses a centrifuge extraction method. They also sell one from >the South Pacific, which seems to have a nuttier taste, and is also very >good. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hi there. I just ordered 5 gallons of the ine oil and it is wonderful, and a great price compared to what I had been spending for this Emerald Laboratory stuff. Just wanted to back up the Wilderness Family Naturals recommendation. They were also very friendly and kept me informed about shipping...got it to me on Christmas eve. sincerely, Michele >From: Long <longc@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: coconut oil >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:40:18 -0700 > >Thanks, Gene. To me, the Omega smells and tastes almost rancid but I tried >frying with it and it doesn't impart any taste to the food. But I can't eat >it plain. I checked out the Wilderness Family site and book marked it. I'll >probably order some from them. > > > > > > > > > > From: Long <longc@...> > > > Reply- > > > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:53:17 -0700 > > > > > > Subject: coconut oil > > > > > > > > > I bought some Omega brand coconut butter. It doesn't taste very good. >What > > > other brands have people tried and how good are they? I can cook with >this > > > stuff but as far as taking a spoon full of it, it doesn't taste good >enough > > > for that. It is organic. It just doesn't taste good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I've tried the Omega, and I agree, it is not very good at all. > > > >I've tried all three of the coconut oils from Wilderness Family Naturals. > >They're all good, and have a nice coconut taste and smell. My favorite is > >actually the one from the ines - they describe it as almost >identical > >to the one they carry from India, but I think the taste is a bit more > >complex (perhaps because it uses a fermentation method to extract the >oil). > >The Indian one uses a centrifuge extraction method. They also sell one >from > >the South Pacific, which seems to have a nuttier taste, and is also very > >good. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2004 Report Share Posted January 25, 2004 i'm using it to help with my hypothyroidism. I use it topically on my hands...helps with dryness. sorry...can't tell you if it helps with weight loss. sheila star_gazer_htown <star_gazer_htown@...> wrote:Hi everyone, I am new to this board and have been reading about the benefits of Coconut Oil on Shoman's website. I am curious to know if anyone out there is using coconut oil to help with their hypothyroidism. And if there are people using it, how are you using it...cooking, adding to meals, straight out the container? Also, if you are using it, have you been able to tell that it is helping you lose weight. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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