Re: Klonopin

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From: "Gloria Tate" <MissGloria@...>

"..............last night and I slept most all of twelve hours."

Wow........can't imagine getting that much sleep in one night! In twelve hours time, I will wake up 6 or 7 times to turn (and maybe potty). I can hardly move if I stay in one position for longer than perhaps 3 hours...........

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I can't imagine it either. That's one of the maddening things for me is waking up at three or four in the a.m. and not being able to get back to sleep til it's almost time to get up. I used to go to bed and sleep right through.

Bev

Wow........can't imagine getting that much sleep in one night! In twelve hours time, I will wake up 6 or 7 times to turn (and maybe potty). I can hardly move if I stay in one position for longer than perhaps 3 hours...........

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Dear ,

Well, I am jealous of you because soon your knees will be well and I still cannot bend mine or go an hour without pain in them. Will you be able to squat down to the floor and do anything a normal knee could do, if you remember what that was?

I heard that you were taking the vicodin for pain and that helps, but you should get some of this klonopin. It is a tranquilizer and it really works. I was getting crazy after not being able to sleep for three days, and my fifteen year old was trying to get me to lie down during the day. I was crying and saying I couldn't because then I would never sleep at night. He gave me half of a klonopin and within 20 minutes, I felt calm and able to go about going to his baseball game. It was a complete turnabout. I do think you should get some of this medicine to have. I am the same way about tossing and turning because if I stay in one position, I get so stiff and sore, I can barely move. But this drug made me not conscience of every move I made in bed.

It is also known to make you have very interesting, involved dreams (My doctor calls it going to the movies without a ticket). The drawback is that you can get into the habit of sleeping TOO much with it. Sleep becomes entertaining. You would have to experiment on the dose. After I slept the 12 hours, I still felt rather drugged for several hours. That happens to me when I sleep too much though. I don't think it would be wise to take it with the vicodin unless the doctor said it was okay.

Good luck and spoil yourself with a little klonopin. I know two other people who take it and they say that, unlike xanax, you don't seem to get hooked on it if you don't exceed the dosage all the time.

love,

Gloria

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For those of you taking Klonopin, a word of caution. This drug is a

benzodiazepine or anticonvulsant that can cause siezures when withdrawn

abruptly. So if you are taking it regularly, don,t suddenly stop taking it.

I went through severe withdrawals from it because I was not properly informed

about its effects. C.

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Hi,

I did not have the addiction or withdrawal problem with klonopin. I seem

to be able to take it or leave it at such a small dose. In fact, I had to

go on it a year ago to get off xanax because no matter how low a dose I took

of xanax, I got horrible asthma whenever it started to wearoff. the inhaler

did no good. Only another xanax would kill the asthma. the klonopin saved

me. Of course, my doctor thought the whole thing was caused by anxiety, but

I am too tired to be anxious most of the time.

love,

Gloria

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I am also currently on Klonopin also and I have been through the withdrawal

a couple of times it is really best to keep it on a very low dosage. My doc

that gave it to me told me I could go up to 20mg. before I had to worry

while up to 10mg which is a lot for this medication I went to another doc

who told me I had to drop down to eight and explained the side effects to me

and told me how addictive it is. I am currently taking 2-4 mgs a day now and

that seems to be working well. Two other doc also wanted me to lower the

doseage and I am taking a muscle relaxer that actaully works for me and that

allowed me to drop down to 2mgs when not in a major flare like I am curently

in but I will not go over the 4 mgs.

Blessings,

Sherry

> For those of you taking Klonopin, a word of caution. This drug is a

> benzodiazepine or anticonvulsant that can cause siezures when withdrawn

> abruptly. So if you are taking it regularly, don,t suddenly stop taking

it.

> I went through severe withdrawals from it because I was not properly

informed

> about its effects. C.

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Hi Eva,

I'm taking Klonopin so I can sleep. I take one or two 1 mg pills

about an hour before bedtime, and will probably continue indefinitely

(ie; for the rest of my life). I was previously on Ambien, but it

quit working even if I took two or three 10 mg pills - it started to

just make me groggy rather than sleepy.

Strangely enough, I think my sleep problems (and perhaps to some

extent my PA problems) may be caused by job stress, because I've been

on sick leave for about three weeks or so and have noticed that for

the last few days I haven't needed Klonopin to get to sleep at all.

Since I've been off work, I seem to get sleepy at a reasonable hour

and wake up fairly rested relatively early in the morning instead of

needing to sleep for 10-12 hours or more as in the past. I still need

to take frequent naps during the day however, and occasional pain

meds along with my regular anti-inflammatory drugs (Naproxen and

Arava). Also, my major flare-ups always seem to occur during periods

of heightened stress at work. I generally enjoy my work and like my

co-workers, but my job involves solving rather complex computer

software programming problems for which there is usually no easy

solution. It's ironic that the very problems which make my job

interesting, may also be contributing to my physical health problems

with PA.

-- Ron

> Ron,

>

> You mentioned klonopin is a previous posting. I am about to try

it. What do you think of it, why are you taking it, how long, etc.

( if you don't mind my probing) You can answer me directly if you'd

like. Thanks for all you contribute to the group.

>

> Eva

>

[Guest guest]

Eva, While you wrote your message to Ron, I felt the need to reply to your

message as I have been taking Klonopin for the past 4 years. If not for

Klonopin I would not be able to sleep because of the pain. Klonopin is a

benzodiazapine--in the same class of meds such as valium, ativan, etc... It is

habit forming and once you are on it you should be detoxed from it slowly should

you decide to discontinue this med. Without detoxing, you can have seizures as

much as 2 to 3 weeks after coming off this med. I don't care about the habit

forming aspect as it allows me to be able to sleep instead of being up and down

all night long because of the pain. While it works well for me, it may not be

the right med for someone else. Other people prefer a sleep med called Ambien.

It is in the same class of meds, but it did not work for me. These meds are

also anti-anxiety meds and can help tremendously with people who suffer from

anxiety. If you decide to take Klonopin(clonazepam) don't be discouraged if it

is not the med for you. There are many many benzodiazepines and I am sure you

can find the right one for you. Best of Luck, Shirley in VA

> Eva Fuell wrote:Ron,

>

> You mentioned klonopin is a previous posting. I am about to try

> it. What do you think of it, why are you taking it, how long,

> etc. ( if you don't mind my probing) You can answer me directly

> if you'd like. Thanks for all you contribute to the group.

>

> Eva

[Moderator's note: Shirley, you are correct that Klonopin (clonazepam) is a

benzodiazepine and is in the same chemical family as valium and the other drugs

you mentioned, but it is not on the list of the DEA's Schedule IV drugs like

valium is and so is easier for doctors to prescribe. I believe I read somewhere

that Klonopin isn't as addictive as Valium and that's probably why it's not on

the DEA's list of Schedule IV drugs. I've only been taking it for a relatively

short time (probably four or five months), but so far at least I have no problem

when I skip a day or two. In fact I usually skip it on weekends when I can stay

up late, specifically so that it wouldn't loose its effectiveness for me, and so

that I wouldn't become too dependent upon it. It's the best drug for sleep I've

taken yet, and (unlike Ambien) seems to work just as well as it did when I

started taking it. Maybe skipping a day or two now and then would be a good way

to prevent becoming too dependent upon it(?) I'm six feet tall and weight around

230 pounds, so I usually have to take two 10 mg pills. Ron]

[Guest guest]

> This clonazepan helps me sleep.

> Side affects? I am not aware of any.

> Yet I have tried to wean myself down, to 0.75mg. It was tough! It

is addictive.

> So how do you get off of this drug?

> Jon Sayers

IT IS VERY ADDICTIVE!!! (Yes I am shouting....) I took it for years

and was taking two pills twice as much as prescribed. I weaned my

self down progressively and still had many sleepless nights w/ lots of

anxiety. It took a while to get withdrawn from it. Several years

ago, they had a group at a psychiatric hospital in Belmont, MA for

people addicted to this class of drugs. There was a very interesting

article in the Boston Globe discussing how quickly drs. prescribe

these drugs without telling people of their addictive qualities.

Gail

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No it doesn't - Klonopin is OK to take with LDN.

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From: fibberjan <fibberjan@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:27:21 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] klonopin

DOES KLONOPIN CONTAIN OPIOID RECEPTOR?

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Klonopin doesn't make me sleepy at all because I take it in the morning and afternoon. I was actually misdiagnosed years before with panic/anxiety attacks and was prescribed the Klonopin but after I was diagnosed with MS and TM I found out it was good for people with MS and helped with Tremors/Pain/Spasticity so I kept taking it.

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From: Jaco B <jaco.b7219@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 5:55:54 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Drugs that do not have opioid receptors

Klonopin is not an opiate, it's a benzodiazepine. I myself would not use such a drug. It is addictive and it causes mental dullness and foggy thinking. The carisoprodol is fine to use.As for sleeping issues, for some people LDN helps them sleep. For othersit keeps them awake. If you need help sleeping and don't want an addiction on your hands try Benadryl. It causes drowsiness and along with that muscle relaxant could give a full eight hours. And no chance of getting addicted - it just doesn't go there.Good luck,Jaco