Re: LDN - Only for recently diagnosed??

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Good point Marcie. Stress is a killer.It's more harmful than a little butter or sugar.

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My two cents worth; if I'm going to 'indulge', I just have the real thing. Be it sugar or butter or whatever! Dr. Weil said once that if there was one thing to give up that is truly bad for our health, it would be margarine. It's man-made. Nothing beneficial for one's health. When aspartame is exposed to heat, supposedly, it changes properties and becomes like formaldehyde. (Or so I heard/read) For me, the key is not to over-do either. For some, neither seems to be detrimental. Once again, the individuality seems to be different from one to the next. Try to be health-conscience, but don't stress over it!! Marcie In a message dated 1/2/2005 8:31:40 PM Central Standard Time, jatrac1@... writes:

One of our greatest challenges in our attempts to improve our health is our tendency toward denial... Your position on aspartame reminds me of my own feelings about butter. How can I possibly give up something that adds so much to my pleasure in life... I tell myself I don't use that much of it, I tell myself I'm entitled to something so wonderful. But then I tell myself to stop fooling myself. I KNOW butter is bad for me for a lot of reasons. I KNOW all the excuses I make are simply excuses. By continuing to use something that tastes so good but has so many negative effects on my health I am denying myself at least some opportunity to improve. And butter is basically just an ar JT

[Guest guest]

Good for you Raelene -

You can do it - I have found that MSers are VERY strong and have a

great " can-do " attitude. Keep us posted on how you do.

Frieda :-)

> i am going to try. might take some time, but i'm sure i can do it.

is all

> the other diet drinks the same? i'm not real sure. i have only ever

heard

> how bad pepsi max can be.

>

> -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN - Only for recently

diagnosed??

>

> One of our greatest challenges in our attempts to improve our

health is our

> tendency toward denial... Your position on aspartame reminds me of

my own

> feelings about butter. How can I possibly give up something that

adds so

> much to my pleasure in life... I tell myself I don't use that much

of it, I

> tell myself I'm entitled to something so wonderful. But then I

tell myself

> to stop fooling myself. I KNOW butter is bad for me for a lot of

reasons.

> I KNOW all the excuses I make are simply excuses. By continuing to

use

> something that tastes so good but has so many negative effects on

my health

> I am denying myself at least some opportunity to improve. And

butter is

> basically just an artery clogger and fat builder, and very likely

an MS

> promoter. Aspartame is a poison, no other word is appropriate.

You owe it

> to yourself to find a substitute for your pepsi, which can indeed

do a LOT

> of harm.

>

> JT

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diagnosed??

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>

> thanks frieda,

>

> i will look into it. i don't eat chocolate its too sweet for me. no

diet

> drink are good are they, i would change if it made a difference.

the ldn has

> been great for me so i'm pretty sure the pepsi thing can't do too

much harm

> but i will check up on it. you are kind to give me the link, i'm

very

> grateful. still don't know how i would be giving it up maybe i

could cut it

> down at first. we will see. thank you so much

>

> raelene....fingers crossed on the ldn.

>

>

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> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marcie -

You have that right. Stress, work-related, was the cause of my MS.

I was fine until I went to work in a high-stress field. Didn't

realize that I didn't handle stress well...internalized the stress

and here I am. What followed is having to control diet (Swank's) to

minimize the damage done by the stress.

Anyway, whatever the case - I have to watch stress and diet now.

Frieda :-)

--- In low dose naltrexone , " " <cindyyoung@a...>

wrote:

> Good point Marcie. Stress is a killer.It's more harmful than a

little

> butter or sugar.

>

>

>

>

>

> -- Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN - Only for recently

diagnosed??

>

> My two cents worth; if I'm going to 'indulge', I just have the real

thing.

> Be it sugar or butter or whatever! Dr. Weil said once that if

there was one

> thing to give up that is truly bad for our health, it would be

margarine.

> It's man-made. Nothing beneficial for one's health. When

aspartame is

> exposed to heat, supposedly, it changes properties and becomes like

> formaldehyde. (Or so I heard/read) For me, the key is not to over-

do

> either. For some, neither seems to be detrimental. Once again, the

> individuality seems to be different from one to the next. Try to be

> health-conscience, but don't stress over it!!

>

> Marcie

>

>

> In a message dated 1/2/2005 8:31:40 PM Central Standard Time,

> jatrac1@p... writes:

>

>

>

> One of our greatest challenges in our attempts to improve our

health is our

> tendency toward denial... Your position on aspartame reminds me of

my own

> feelings about butter. How can I possibly give up something that

adds so

> much to my pleasure in life... I tell myself I don't use that much

of it, I

> tell myself I'm entitled to something so wonderful. But then I

tell myself

> to stop fooling myself. I KNOW butter is bad for me for a lot of

reasons.

> I KNOW all the excuses I make are simply excuses. By continuing to

use

> something that tastes so good but has so many negative effects on

my health

> I am denying myself at least some opportunity to improve. And

butter is

> basically just an ar

>

> JT

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suspect stress is a trigger, or the last straw, that allows MS to become severe enough to be visible. There is very likely something going on at a level that doesn't get our attention until stress in the form of illness or job pressure, etc, bring us down enough for whatever actually causes MS to begin causing enough damage to get our attention.

Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: LDN - Only for recently diagnosed??> > My two cents worth; if I'm going to 'indulge', I just have the real thing. > Be it sugar or butter or whatever! Dr. Weil said once that if there was one> thing to give up that is truly bad for our health, it would be margarine. > It's man-made. Nothing beneficial for one's health. When aspartame is> exposed to heat, supposedly, it changes properties and becomes like> formaldehyde. (Or so I heard/read) For me, the key is not to over-do> either. For some, neither seems to be detrimental. Once again, the> individuality seems to be different from one to the next. Try to be> health-conscience, but don't stress over it!! > > Marcie > > > In a message dated 1/2/2005 8:31:40 PM Central Standard Time,> jatrac1@p... writes: > > > > One of our greatest challenges in our attempts to improve our health is our> tendency toward denial... Your position on aspartame reminds me of my own> feelings about butter. How can I possibly give up something that adds so> much to my pleasure in life... I tell myself I don't use that much of it, I> tell myself I'm entitled to something so wonderful. But then I tell myself> to stop fooling myself. I KNOW butter is bad for me for a lot of reasons. > I KNOW all the excuses I make are simply excuses. By continuing to use> something that tastes so good but has so many negative effects on my health> I am denying myself at least some opportunity to improve. And butter is> basically just an ar > > JT > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Frieda,

Glad the group was able to come up with so many answers for you! I

have had MS for 10 years, details my LDN story is at

http://ldners.org/mission.htm

Also, the LDN survey to which 267 MSers contributed includes duration

of MS by type of MS, which was

PPMS - 11.5 yrs diagnosed, 53% symptom improvement, 50% prog. stopped

PRMS - 10.8 yrs diagnosed, 75% symptom improvement, 58% prog. stopped

RRMS - 7.00 yrs diagnosed, 82% symptom improvement, 34% prog. stopped

SPMS - 12.6 yrs diagnosed, 57% symptom improvement, 43% prog. stopped

The relapse rate for the whole group was 0.2, or 1 in 5 years, which

is much lower than that reported for any other MS drug.

So it looks like the body is able to begin repairs and get ahead of

the disease destruction, after the LDN slowed disease progression.

Even for those with long standing disease. And recent studies have

reversed the long held belief that neurons can't grow back. So this

is a very optimistic outlook for this treatment. Just remember that

some will respond quickly, and for others it can take up to 9 months.

Another member just posted that she is hitting the 9 month mark, and

only just now seeing results. So hang in there with it, and this

group will always be there with words of encouragement!

SammyJo

[Guest guest]

Hi SammyJo -

You are such an encouragement to me and my family. The responses to

my posts here have been tremendous and very appreciated. Since

finding your website, we have been engrossed in searching out all we

can, and your story was the beginning of my/our search.

Thanks for the info and once I have started on it, I will definitely

stick with it. I have the info ready to take in to my dr. and a

backup plan with my naturopath (I understand they can write the

prescription), should that fail.

I sure got a lift from the info on these surveys and glad to know

that response time frames might take longer for some.

Thanks, sammyjo!!

Frieda :-)

>

> Hi Frieda,

>

> Glad the group was able to come up with so many answers for you! I

> have had MS for 10 years, details my LDN story is at

> http://ldners.org/mission.htm

>

> Also, the LDN survey to which 267 MSers contributed includes

duration

> of MS by type of MS, which was

>

> PPMS - 11.5 yrs diagnosed, 53% symptom improvement, 50% prog.

stopped

> PRMS - 10.8 yrs diagnosed, 75% symptom improvement, 58% prog.

stopped

> RRMS - 7.00 yrs diagnosed, 82% symptom improvement, 34% prog.

stopped

> SPMS - 12.6 yrs diagnosed, 57% symptom improvement, 43% prog.

stopped

>

> The relapse rate for the whole group was 0.2, or 1 in 5 years,

which

> is much lower than that reported for any other MS drug.

>

> So it looks like the body is able to begin repairs and get ahead of

> the disease destruction, after the LDN slowed disease progression.

> Even for those with long standing disease. And recent studies have

> reversed the long held belief that neurons can't grow back. So this

> is a very optimistic outlook for this treatment. Just remember that

> some will respond quickly, and for others it can take up to 9

months.

> Another member just posted that she is hitting the 9 month mark,

and

> only just now seeing results. So hang in there with it, and this

> group will always be there with words of encouragement!

> SammyJo