Guest guest Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Def need bipap not cpap. I found it hard to get used to a mask until I tried nasal pillows instead and find them v comfy. Google dr john bach as he has a good website explaining about bipap and pressures etc. Sent from my iPhone On 25 Feb 2012, at 03:18, " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> wrote: > Greetings Folks, > > Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. > > What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how others overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts! > Ellyn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 You only want a BiPAP. Using a CPAP is like exhaling against pressure which makes you feel very uncomfortable. SMA people need to rest their lungs sometimes. Thinking that using assistive technology makes them weaker is totally wrong. Using a BiPAP gives us some rest and we feel much stronger later. Aul ________________________________ From: " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:18 PM Subject: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet  Greetings Folks, Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how others overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Ellyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hi, You sound just like I did when I found out I needed BiPAP while sleeping. I thought my life was coming to an end, LOL! But actually, it was a new beginning. No, you will not get weaker from being assisted in breathing all those hours because it gives your muscles a rest so it will actually give them more endurance and keep you breathing on your own while awake for a longer time. You will have so much more energy during the day you will feel like a new person! If you don't get one, your muscles will be too overtaxed and eventually you won't be able to breathe well during the day (I'm talking long-term here, so don't panic). As far as positioning, mask fitting, getting used to it, that will all work out. I got mine at age 36, I have SMA 2 and I am now 52 years old and singing in a band! When I got my BiPAP I spent two nights sleeping in the intensive care unit just so they could monitor CO2 and be there to train me and support me. My PCA slept in the room with me. When they first put it on I jumped for a second but they just said, " Patti, just breathe, relax, " stuff like that and within a few minutes I was fine. If there's anything else I can do for you please let me know. Regards, Patti www.facebook.com/olypsys www.reverbnation.com/olypsys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2012 Report Share Posted February 25, 2012 Hi Ellyn, The advice given by others here is good. You def do not want a CPAP. Google dr. john bach & read his articles on non-invasive ventilation. I resisted my bi-pap but it is so much better to sleep at night!! It does take a lot of patience to adjust to letting the machine breathe for you but it really is a way to prolong strength and quality life. Love, N On 2/24/12 9:18 PM, " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> wrote: > Greetings Folks, > > Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while > sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus > far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 > and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I > get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake > with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all > linked with sleep apnea. > > What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the > headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably > understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to > imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start > using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided > for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on > assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I > do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros > and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they > function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why > one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about > this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We > are all different, but it will help me to know how others overcame this > obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts! > Ellyn > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > A FEW RULES > > * The list members come from many backgrounds, ages and beliefs So all > members most be tolerant and respectful to all members. > > * Some adult language and topics (like sexual health, swearing..) may > occur occasionally in emails. Over use of inappropriate language will > not be allowed. If your under 16 ask your parents/gaurdian before you > join the list. > > * No SPAMMING or sending numerous emails unrelated to the topics of > spinal muscular atrophy, health, and the daily issues of the disabled. > > Post message: > Subscribe: -subscribe > Unsubscribe: -unsubscribe > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Hi guys same problem here... I'm starting to think that trying a bpap won't be a bad idea... but I have another question for those of you that use it and don't sleep alone.... How much noise does it make? I don't want to stress my partner's sleep too much... Any info will be great  Vesna    ________________________________ Da: " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> A: Inviato: Sabato 25 Febbraio 2012 4:18 Oggetto: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet  Greetings Folks, Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how others overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Ellyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I put my vote in for the Respronics Triology. The sound is almost non-existent and it has a " ramp up " feature that adjust to your breathing and allows you to get used to it. The SMA guru docs recommend the Triology. Suzanne What's The News On ne & Latte? www.our-sma-angels.com/neRose (ne's website - Check it out!!) On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Vesna S. <vesna_daisy@...> wrote: > ** > > > Hi guys > > same problem here... I'm starting to think that trying a bpap won't be a > bad idea... but I have another question for those of you that use it and > don't sleep alone.... How much noise does it make? I don't want to stress > my partner's sleep too much... > Any info will be great > > > > Vesna > > > ________________________________ > Da: " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> > A: > Inviato: Sabato 25 Febbraio 2012 4:18 > Oggetto: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet > > > > Greetings Folks, > > Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while > sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment > thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: > I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of > sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the > mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these > symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. > > What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the > headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably > understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to > imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start > using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided > for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on > assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength > I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the > pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different > ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the > other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be > in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be > invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how > others > overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way > over it, too. > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts! > Ellyn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Modern BiPAP are pretty quiet. They sound like a small fan. Not even close to oxygen concentrators or vacuum cleaners. ________________________________ From: Vesna S. <vesna_daisy@...> " " < > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: Re: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet  Hi guys same problem here... I'm starting to think that trying a bpap won't be a bad idea... but I have another question for those of you that use it and don't sleep alone.... How much noise does it make? I don't want to stress my partner's sleep too much... Any info will be great  Vesna    ________________________________ Da: " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> A: Inviato: Sabato 25 Febbraio 2012 4:18 Oggetto: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet  Greetings Folks, Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how others overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Ellyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2012 Report Share Posted February 27, 2012 I like my Respironics Trilogy 100. I use it all day and it's my backup at night. I mostly use a Respironics PLV 102-b at night. Both machines are very quiet except for the Trilogy's exhalation puff. Alana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 definately bipap. we don't have traditional sleep apnea, it is caused by muscle weakness. as a result, cpap is not effective because typically our muscles are not strong enough to blow off the co2, so it builds in our systems. went to mayo and they only use bipap with sma. i really resisted it and now only wish i would have started sooner. so much more energy and have been healthier because i can rest. just got the blue gel mask as recommended by someone with sma and i think i am going to like it. i use oxygen with mine. makes white noise, you get used to it. > > Hi guys > > same problem here... I'm starting to think that trying a bpap won't be a bad idea... but I have another question for those of you that use it and don't sleep alone.... How much noise does it make? I don't want to stress my partner's sleep too much... > Any info will be great > > Â > > > > Vesna > Â Â Â > > > ________________________________ > Da: " ellynpeace@... " <ellynpeace@...> > A: > Inviato: Sabato 25 Febbraio 2012 4:18 > Oggetto: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet > > > Â > Greetings Folks, > > Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. > > What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how others > overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts! > Ellyn > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Thanks to all of you for your helpful replies! My appointment with the doctor is on Monday. Unfortunately, my own doc is no longer doing sleep stuff, so I will be seeing his partner, who I've never met. Shouldn't really be any problem but I do have one more question. Did all of you do sleep studies prior to beginning use of BiPAP? I highly doubt that would be effective for me since, it's tough to sleep in anything but my own bed. I'm thinking an O2 monitor overnight might be just as telling. Suggestions? Stories? Ellyn > > > > Hi guys > > > > same problem here... I'm starting to think that trying a bpap won't be a bad idea... but I have another question for those of you that use it and don't sleep alone.... How much noise does it make? I don't want to stress my partner's sleep too much... > > Any info will be great > > > >  > > > > > > > > Vesna > >    > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Da: " ellynpeace@ " <ellynpeace@> > > A: > > Inviato: Sabato 25 Febbraio 2012 4:18 > > Oggetto: CPAP/BPAP: I think I have to bite the bullet > > > > > >  > > Greetings Folks, > > > > Could use some input from those of you who use either CPAP or BiPAP while sleeping. Although I've been fortunate not to have to use any equipment thus far, I'm pretty sure that time has come to an end. A little about me: I'm 47 and have SMA 1; have noticed lately that no matter how many hours of sleep I get, I still feel exhausted and sometimes feel dizzy in the mornings or wake with a headache. After doing some research, I found these symptoms are all linked with sleep apnea. > > > > What I'm wondering is how you've adjusted to sleeping while wearing the headgear required by either the CPAP or BiPAP? As most of you probably understand, I've only got a very few comfortable positions and it's hard to imagine any of them with that headgear! Also, I'm concerned that if I start using the equipment, my breathing will get weaker because it is being aided for so many hours every day. My philosophy has always been to rely on assistive devices as little as possible so that I don't lose what strength I do have any sooner than necessary. Another question I have is what the pros and cons are of the CPAP vs. the BiPAP. I understand the different ways they function, but am wondering if one is more comfortable than the other, and why one would chosen over the other. I'm really trying not to be in denial about this issue, so any of your experiences and input will be invaluable to me! We are all different, but it will help me to know how > others > > overcame this obstacle if only to remind myself that I can find my way over it, too. > > > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts! > > Ellyn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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