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The client (adult w/MI) I know who recently started on it has had diarrhea

alternating with constipation since starting on it. She's currently in the

hospital while they adjust her meds. SFrom: & amp; Jack Rawlings

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2003 09:21:16 -0500Subject: Re: [ ] AbilifyAbilify is a new

atypical antipsychotic medication from Bristol Myers Squibb.I have heard

anecdotal reports that this medication is causing EPS!! (extrapyramidal

symptoms...movement disorders). This is extremely troubling, since this product

has only recently been approved by the FDA.JR[Non-text portions of this message

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I have no experience using Abilify, but it is a newer atypical antipsychotic

-- not an anti anxiety medication. It seems like a bit of overkill to me to

use for short term anxiety, like you might encounter on a plane ride. I also

don't know how quickly this medication works.

My son's psychiatrist has prescribed extra Clonidine for us to use in such

situations. Clondine -- actually classified as a antihypertensive -- works by

decreasing noradrenaline in the brain and is moderately sedating. It takes

effect within 30 minutes and one dose lasts about 4 hours. It has been safely

used for years on children.

Jody

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RE: Abilify......one thing you should be aware of, Abilify (aripiprazole)

can be very activating, which could present a problem if you are dealing

with hyperactivety or aggression.

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I'm surprised your doc would suggest this. It sounds more like an

anxiety or oppositional thing than a psychotic thing (abilify is an

antipsychotic). Something that encourages sedation, compliance and

calmness might be more helpful. I think this is a good one to talk to

your health plan doc about at some length since there are vast numbers

of choices and it depends a LOT on WHY he doesn't want to get on the

plane.

Andy . . . . . .

> Hi everyone,

> I used to post on this list until my life got too busy to keep up.

> Still the same but I'll try to keep up. Have any of you tried this

> for anxiety and what results you got? Please tell me all that you

> can. I got a prescription that I plan to use on temporarily. I would

> like to take my 8 yr old Autistic son on vacation but he refused to

> go on the plain. Any better suggestions? Thanks.

> G

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Andy,

I have a 12 year old who has now pulled his 4th permanent tooth... looks

like an unsuccessful hockey player.... what medication encourages

sedation, compliance and clamness???

Pam

At 08:24 PM 8/9/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>I'm surprised your doc would suggest this. It sounds more like an

>anxiety or oppositional thing than a psychotic thing (abilify is an

>antipsychotic). Something that encourages sedation, compliance and

>calmness might be more helpful. I think this is a good one to talk to

>your health plan doc about at some length since there are vast numbers

>of choices and it depends a LOT on WHY he doesn't want to get on the

>plane.

>

>Andy . . . . . .

>

> > Hi everyone,

> > I used to post on this list until my life got too busy to keep up.

> > Still the same but I'll try to keep up. Have any of you tried this

> > for anxiety and what results you got? Please tell me all that you

> > can. I got a prescription that I plan to use on temporarily. I would

> > like to take my 8 yr old Autistic son on vacation but he refused to

> > go on the plain. Any better suggestions? Thanks.

> > G

>

>

>

>

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>

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Why does your DAN Dr. want to place your son on Abilify? What symptoms are

you looking to control? Abilify (aripiprazole) may be " activating " meaning

it could be over-stimulating for some individuals.

JR

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Weight gain is coman with zpraxa. J gained some weight BUT he was only 110 pounds when we started! He is 159 now but he is 21. Lois

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We tried it...It made my son VERY tired......I think it might have caused the beginning of his seizures...PLEASE read and ask about side effects which include seizures.....

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We've tried Abilify, Geodone, and Risperdal, which I believe have similar modes of action. They caused a lot of problems. Seizures, precipitous weight gain, extreme paranoia. We do know kids that the meds help, but ours was not among them. As odd as it may seem, we found that our daughter gets overgrowths of yeast in her gut, and treating that helped her aggression. Hasn't eradicated the aggression, but giving her an anti-fungal helps a lot more than the psychotropic meds for us.

Carol

In a message dated 1/6/2010 7:06:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, joygainer@... writes:

Does anyone have any experience with this medication? My son is almost 8 years old and we are having a lot of anger and violence issues. They are suggestig this medication but it was just recently (a month or so) approved by the FDA for children with autism to help control anger. Was just wondering if anyone had any experience with it..Thanks so much:)

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We found out about the yeast when our daughter had stool cultures prior to scoping. (We had always suspected that she had GI issues because she would have terrible tantrums within an hour of eating-) If you have a sympathetic doctor that would write for the cultures, it should be covered by insurance, as they are considered medical issues. (At different times, both CIGNA and US Healthcare covered it.) I wish that I could comment on the meds for concentration, but in the hierarchy of needs, that's one that we'd like to work on, but just can't for now. But Tegretol has helped to even out our daughter 's moods for about 6 years now, without too much in the way of side effects. The odd thing is that the older meds in the classifications tended to help more than the newer ones.

And you are right about some of the side effects of the psychotropics being permanent, we especially had that serious problem with Risperdal. For instance, while the distal tremors stopped after we stopped the med, the arm posturing and some other symptoms never abated. Wish we knew why these meds work so well for some and cause serious issues in others.

In a message dated 1/8/2010 8:14:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, joygainer@... writes:

Carol, how did you know about the overgrowth of yeast? If you don't mind me asking..insurance won't pay for alternative treatments or testing so just wondering...We decided not to go with the Abilify right now, too nervous about the side effect and some side effects are permanent so... Tryin' Concerta for now since he was only on Clonidie which didn't help him concentrate at ALL..then maybe something else for the anger:) Thank you all for your input:)>> We've tried Abilify, Geodone, and Risperdal, which I believe have similar > modes of action. They caused a lot of problems. Seizures, precipitous > weight gain, extreme paranoia. We do know kids that the meds help, but ours > was not among them. As odd as it may seem, we found that our daughter gets > overgrowths of yeast in her gut, and treating that helped her aggression. > Hasn't eradicated the aggression, but giving her an anti-fungal helps a lot > more than the psychotropic meds for us.> > Carol> > > In a message dated 1/6/2010 7:06:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, > joygainer@... writes:> > > > > Does anyone have any experience with this medication? My son is almost 8 > years old and we are having a lot of anger and violence issues. They are > suggestig this medication but it was just recently (a month or so) approved by > the FDA for children with autism to help control anger. Was just wondering > if anyone had any experience with it..Thanks so much:)>

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Carol, how did you know about the overgrowth of yeast? If you don't mind me

asking..insurance won't pay for alternative treatments or testing so just

wondering...We decided not to go with the Abilify right now, too nervous about

the side effect and some side effects are permanent so... Tryin' Concerta for

now since he was only on Clonidie which didn't help him concentrate at ALL..then

maybe something else for the anger:) Thank you all for your input:)

>

> We've tried Abilify, Geodone, and Risperdal, which I believe have similar

> modes of action. They caused a lot of problems. Seizures, precipitous

> weight gain, extreme paranoia. We do know kids that the meds help, but ours

> was not among them. As odd as it may seem, we found that our daughter gets

> overgrowths of yeast in her gut, and treating that helped her aggression.

> Hasn't eradicated the aggression, but giving her an anti-fungal helps a lot

> more than the psychotropic meds for us.

>

> Carol

>

>

> In a message dated 1/6/2010 7:06:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> joygainer@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Does anyone have any experience with this medication? My son is almost 8

> years old and we are having a lot of anger and violence issues. They are

> suggestig this medication but it was just recently (a month or so) approved by

> the FDA for children with autism to help control anger. Was just wondering

> if anyone had any experience with it..Thanks so much:)

>

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Thanks for that link! Our family doctor was just telling us about how because medications can't be adjusted to individual metabolisms that there will always be people on either side of the bell curve with severe adverse reactions or no reaction at all. We all should know what's beyond the package information sheets. (And yes, we're not crazy:)

In a message dated 1/8/2010 1:34:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, tarasantilli@... writes:

Hi all,I know that this might not be the most "conventional" website but it is one that I have referenced over the years when I considered a medicine change for myself. It is http://www.crazymeds.us/Like I said, it is not conventional. It is written by a group of people that are somewhere on the spectrum and or have other co-morbid conditions like bi-polar, depression, etc. It goes beyond the PI sheets that come packed with the meds by the pharma companies and speaks in real terms (often lighthearted with a humorous twist). It's candid and there is some swearing....just warning you in advance in case you are offended by that.Everyone's body processes the meds differently and results can vary. I took Abilify for a brief period and it caused hallucinations for me. I found that to be true of most anti-psychotics. But that's just me and my chemical make-up. I would worry about how someone on the spectrum would interpret hallucinations or if they could even describe that they were happening so you could stop the med, kwim?~~Tara~~ (who really isn't that crazy....anymore....lol)

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Here is a link to a very simple and no cost test for candida:

http://www.adhdreli ef.com/CandidaTe st.html

Someone sent this web address a while ago but its a free test you can do at home

Hope this helps

Jo Anne

From: joygainer <joygainer@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Abilify Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 9:13 AM

Carol, how did you know about the overgrowth of yeast? If you don't mind me asking..insurance won't pay for alternative treatments or testing so just wondering... We decided not to go with the Abilify right now, too nervous about the side effect and some side effects are permanent so... Tryin' Concerta for now since he was only on Clonidie which didn't help him concentrate at ALL..then maybe something else for the anger:) Thank you all for your input:)>> We've tried Abilify, Geodone, and Risperdal, which I believe have similar > modes of action. They caused a lot of problems. Seizures, precipitous > weight gain, extreme paranoia.. We do know kids that the meds help, but ours > was not among them. As

odd as it may seem, we found that our daughter gets > overgrowths of yeast in her gut, and treating that helped her aggression. > Hasn't eradicated the aggression, but giving her an anti-fungal helps a lot > more than the psychotropic meds for us.> > Carol> > > In a message dated 1/6/2010 7:06:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, > joygainer@.. . writes:> > > > > Does anyone have any experience with this medication? My son is almost 8 > years old and we are having a lot of anger and violence issues. They are > suggestig this medication but it was just recently (a month or so) approved by > the FDA for children with autism to help control anger. Was just wondering > if anyone had any experience with it..Thanks so much:)>

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Hi all,I know that this might not be the most " conventional " website but it is one that I have referenced over the years when I considered a medicine change for myself.  It is http://www.crazymeds.us/

Like I said, it is not conventional.  It is written by a group of people that are somewhere on the spectrum and or have other co-morbid conditions like bi-polar, depression, etc.  It goes beyond the PI sheets that come packed with the meds by the pharma companies and speaks in real terms (often lighthearted with a humorous twist).  It's candid and there is some swearing....just warning you in advance in case you are offended by that.

Everyone's body processes the meds differently and results can vary.  I took Abilify for a brief period and it caused hallucinations for me.  I found that to be true of most anti-psychotics.  But that's just me and my chemical make-up.  I would worry about how someone on the spectrum would interpret hallucinations or if they could even describe that they were happening so you could stop the med, kwim?

~~Tara~~  (who really isn't that crazy....anymore....lol)

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Our 7 yr old son Kiernan has been on Abilify for about a year and a half now..

he was previously on Risperdal... both have had impacts on his weight.. but

that has been the only negative for us with the Abilify.. Since being on the

medication it has helped with his focus in school, he went from using what I

call caveman speak to full sentences in about 3 weeks since he was able to focus

so much more in his therapies and classes.. it has calmed his moods and his

helped him sleep through the night.. without the meds he is overly disruptive

in school, can't sit for more than 30 seconds at a time, is aggressive at home

with us and his sister, and would sleep for 2-3 hours a night.. His doctors

have monitored him closely on the med starting at the lowest dose and even then

he is only on 10mg which we give him at night prior to bed... they have had

his blood checked on a regular basis and we follow up every few weeks with his

doctors...

Hope that helps!

J

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>

> Does anyone have any experience with this medication? My son is almost 8

years old and we are having a lot of anger and violence issues. They are

suggestig this medication but it was just recently (a month or so) approved by

the FDA for children with autism to help control anger. Was just wondering if

anyone had any experience with it..Thanks so much:)

>

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Hi there- Has anyone hd experience with the drug Abilify?? My son is 15 and

having major anger issues along with everything else. He is on celexa for

major anxiety issues but the anger is still a huge issue. thanks Laurie

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Laurie, you could look into homeopathy, which deals with states of mind as well

as physical issues.

Nathalie

From: lauriemagic@...

Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: Abilify

Hi there- Has anyone hd experience with the drug Abilify?? My son is 15 and

having major anger issues along with everything else. He is on celexa for

major anxiety issues but the anger is still a huge issue. thanks Laurie

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Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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You could look into Bach Flower Remedies. In my family, we have been using

their Rescue Remedy with great success. They have different remedies to address

any state of mind you wish to get help for.

Good luck!!

Nathalie

From: drissia wright

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 9:58 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Abilify

I have an 18 year old that has been on Abilify for 6 months. He was having

rages, self injury and aggression. My husband was ready to get him out of the

house. The behaviors are under control but he has anxiety that is awful. He has

to take Klonopin for the anxiety and I feel that there has to be a better

solution than this.

D.

From: mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com <mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com>

Subject: Re: Abilify

mailto:%40

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:45 AM

Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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My husband started on Abilify for an additional depression medication (doctors

samples) last June. Within 3 weeks he was a completely and I mean a completely

different person. Kids or myself had not seen him so happy ever. The night

before we were to leave town for a week I dropped off the actual prescription to

be filled only to find out that we need authorization from insurance etc.. Long

story short, we couldn't get if filled before leaving town so he ended up going

without it for a week and within a couple weeks he wasn't doing well and has

never regained it back. Not sure why. If he responds to it like my husband did

originally he would be a whole new person it was an amazing difference but not

sure why it hasn't worked like that since. Good Luck.

Tami

From: lauriemagic@...

Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:53:45 -0500

Subject: Re: Abilify

Hi there- Has anyone hd experience with the drug Abilify?? My son is 15 and

having major anger issues along with everything else. He is on celexa for

major anxiety issues but the anger is still a huge issue. thanks Laurie

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ok thanks. Do I find that at the health food store or on line?

From: mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com <mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com>

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mailto:%40

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:45 AM

Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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Yes, health food stores and online. Here is some info:

http://www.bachflower.com/

From: drissia wright

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 11:56 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Abilify

ok thanks. Do I find that at the health food store or on line?

From: mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com <mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com>

Subject: Re: Abilify

mailto:%40

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:45 AM

Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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Thanks. This site is great.

From: mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com <mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com>

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mailto:%40

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:45 AM

Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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How do I know what to order? I saw something for anxiety and stress. That might

be a good place to start. Wouldn't hurt me any either.

From: mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com <mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com>

Subject: Re: Abilify

mailto:%40

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:45 AM

Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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I would call the company directly and explain what you are looking for.

After you try their suggestions, I would love to hear from you about the

results!!

Good luck!!

From: drissia wright

Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 1:54 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Abilify

How do I know what to order? I saw something for anxiety and stress. That might

be a good place to start. Wouldn't hurt me any either.

From: mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com <mailto:lauriemagic%40aol.com>

Subject: Re: Abilify

mailto:%40

Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:45 AM

Thank you for the best answer. That is the advice I would give

anyone in my shoes. But I have had him with homeopathy for 13 years now and it

has made a huge difference in our lives. I think he would have been

institutionalized (or maybe I would have been) if it were not for the help of

homeopathy. But it is not a total cure for everything, I still have major anger

issues. He is developmentally delayed and does not process information

well. He is also somewhat paranoid. But I do thank you for your thought. After

the psychiatrist on Wed we went to the Homeopath on Thurs. But I was

wondering if abilify had been used by anyone to good effect. Thanks

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