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Sharon,

I'm having the same issues with my son. Like you, I've taken him off secretin

as it doesn't seem to be making a difference one way or the other.

Just a thought on the melatonin -- it could be that it is putting him to sleep

but that he is waking up when it wears off. We had similar problems with sleep

meds that did that.

Just a thought ...

(Cary, NC)

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[ ] sleeping issues

My 8 year old is once again having sleep issues. He can wake up at 3:30am and

never go back to bed again. He will stay up until 9:00pm and be on the go all

day. We have ruled out yeast and we're looking for any possible ideas for why he

can't sleep. He has taken melatonin for awhile now and does not have trouble

falling asleep. We have been chelating for 3 years. When he was 3 he has

similiar issues that IV secretin took care of. We switched to transdermal and

eventually stopped when we saw no more benefits from it's use. He did fine with

sleep after we stopped so we don't think that it is related to no longer using

it.He's very hyper when he wakes up too, it's like he can't shut down.

Thanks for any ideas.

Sharon

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Try time release melatonin, 3 mg. The life extension foundation

product comes in capsules you can open and is half regular and half

time release melatonin. It works quite well.

Andy . .. . . . . . . .

> My 8 year old is once again having sleep issues. He can wake up at

3:30am and never go back to bed again. He will stay up until 9:00pm

and be on the go all day. We have ruled out yeast and we're looking

for any possible ideas for why he can't sleep. He has taken melatonin

for awhile now and does not have trouble falling asleep. We have been

chelating for 3 years. When he was 3 he has similiar issues that IV

secretin took care of. We switched to transdermal and eventually

stopped when we saw no more benefits from it's use. He did fine with

sleep after we stopped so we don't think that it is related to no

longer using it.He's very hyper when he wakes up too, it's like he

can't shut down.

> Thanks for any ideas.

> Sharon

>

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Hi,

Try Benadry--one or two caps. They come dye free now. My daughter had night

terrors for months. The first night we tried it, she slept fine. This

probably indicates that my daughter had/has high histamine levels. Even your

garden variety pediatrician will say try Benadryl for this problems because

they have heard it helps. Give it before your child goes to sleep--say 20-30

minutes before they try to sleep.

Good luck,

in Salt Lake City

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> Hi all-

I've been fighting sleep issues myself. T wakes during the night and sometimes

won't go back to sleep after getting up @ 4am!!! It's gotten to the point that I

take naps when she does, like having a newborn. Last night she woke screaming

and crying and wouldn't let me leave her room, thank go she has moved from a

toddler bed to a twin so that we could get soem sleep. I'm not using anything as

far sleep meds, I was wondering if this was something that I need to look into

or could it be soemthing that she is taking? She's being supplemented with 1/2

cap No-Fenol,1 cap Everyday vit, 1 cap probiotic, and CLO on backs of knees(when

she wakes in the am only). These were all introduced 5-7 days apart and the

doses are divided. any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Karyn

> From: " andrewhallcutler " <AndyCutler@...>

> Date: 2002/11/12 Tue AM 01:21:24 EST

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: sleeping issues

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Interesting about the Benadryl. Have you ever used it if they wake

in the middle of the night? We were having great nights and now we

are having restless, frequent waking to up all night from 1 am. I've

been dealing with this since my son was 5 weeks old. Melatonin was

suggested on a blind list as it's frequently a blind issue. I've

read that this makes no sense with what they now know about light

receptors that aren't visual in the eyes. (unless eyes are gone)

Anyway, I'm just saying I'm so shocked to see that the problem we

thought was visual was not and everyone here can related better.

I'm whipped though. Between my son waking and my father (who is a

stroke victim and staying with me) I'm going to loose my mind. Dh is

actually in bed sick now because of all the interruptions in the

house during the night. Of course I've been sick for almost 2 wks

now for the same reasons but I can't get in bed. ; )

Thanks for the benadryl dye free tip.

m.l.

> Hi,

>

> Try Benadry--one or two caps. They come dye free now. My

daughter had night

> terrors for months. The first night we tried it, she slept fine.

This

> probably indicates that my daughter had/has high histamine

levels. Even your

> garden variety pediatrician will say try Benadryl for this

problems because

> they have heard it helps. Give it before your child goes to sleep-

-say 20-30

> minutes before they try to sleep.

>

> Good luck,

> in Salt Lake City

>

>

>

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Yes, I have given it in the middle of the night. There is the strange kid

who does not respond or who gets more awake, but that is unusual.

Sleep deprivation is awful. Can you get someone to help during the night?

It is expensive, but when we had newborn twins and a 14 month old, we were

dying of no sleep. We hired nurse's aide types, who were recommended and had

great references, to do at least one night a week. Then my husband and I

traded off the otehr nights. Just one or two nights a week of real sleep can

help so much.

My heart is with you! It will get better.

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> My 8 year old is once again having sleep issues.

Hi Sharon,

I would be careful with Benadryl. I believe that by using that for a long period

of time, not only that it won't solve your problem, but it can actually make it

a lot worse.

You might like to read here:

http://www.mcmaster.ca/inabis98/huston/tuomisto0834/two.html

and just the conclusion:

" Histaminergic activity shows a clear circadian rhythm: high levels during the

active period (in rodents at night, in monkeys and humans during the day), and

low levels during the sleep period. Histamine appears to be necessary for the

maintenance of the circadian rhythmicity of sleep-wakefulness cycles, food

intake, motility and adrenocortical hormone release. In addition, a role for

histaminergic neurons in light entrainment is implicated. In phase shift

studies, histamine given centrally seems to entrain the activity rhythm in the

same way as light impulses and FMH seems to block the entrainment by light.

Importantly, histamine participates in the control of arousal and may be

implicated in the sleep disturbances in hepatic encephalopathy.

Furthermore, evidence suggests a role for histamine in neuronal excitability and

seizure susceptibility both in animals and humans. Thus we conclude that

histamine may exert modifying effects on circadian rhythmicity and neuronal

excitability. "

Hope it helps... Your son problem might not be at all related, so... be careful.

Valentina

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FYI, with any drug, addiction can take place. When I first went down the

autism road, I was so distressed I could not sleep at night. So, I started

hitting the Benadryl. It helped, but pretty soon, I couldn't sleep without

it. This went on for 5 months! I literally had to wean myself off the

stuff.

a

> > My 8 year old is once again having sleep issues.

>

>Hi Sharon,

>I would be careful with Benadryl. I believe that by using that for a long

>period of time, not only that it won't solve your problem, but it can

>actually make it a lot worse.

>

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> > Hi all-

> I've been fighting sleep issues myself. T wakes during the night and

sometimes won't go back to sleep after getting up @ 4am!!! It's gotten

to the point that I take naps when she does, like having a newborn.

How old is your child? If age 3 or so, stop the nap. I know that

will be hard at first, but when my son was age 3, if he had a nap more

than 15-20 minutes, he would be awake for at least an hour during the

night.

>>Last night she woke screaming and crying and wouldn't let me leave

her

room, thank go she has moved from a toddler bed to a twin so that we

could get soem sleep. I'm not using anything as far sleep meds, I was

wondering if this was something that I need to look into or could it

be soemthing that she is taking? She's being supplemented with 1/2 cap

No-Fenol,

No-Fenol can cause sleep issues, consider reducing the dose down to

1/4 capsule or even less, see if that helps.

>>1 cap Everyday vit,

This one can cause sleep issues in children who are phenol sensitive.

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>> 1 cap probiotic,

Yeast die off can cause sleep issues. You might try a different

probiotic and/or give it 1/2 cap twice per day, instead of 1 cap once

per day.

Dana

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research the hormone melatonin. I sometimes use it, and alot of

doctors use it in chelating treatments

> >

> > > Hi all-

> > I've been fighting sleep issues myself. T wakes during the night

and

> sometimes won't go back to sleep after getting up @ 4am!!! It's

gotten

> to the point that I take naps when she does, like having a newborn.

>

>

> How old is your child? If age 3 or so, stop the nap. I know that

> will be hard at first, but when my son was age 3, if he had a nap

more

> than 15-20 minutes, he would be awake for at least an hour during

the

> night.

>

>

> >>Last night she woke screaming and crying and wouldn't let me

leave

> her

> room, thank go she has moved from a toddler bed to a twin so that

we

> could get soem sleep. I'm not using anything as far sleep meds, I

was

> wondering if this was something that I need to look into or could

it

> be soemthing that she is taking? She's being supplemented with 1/2

cap

> No-Fenol,

>

>

> No-Fenol can cause sleep issues, consider reducing the dose down

to

> 1/4 capsule or even less, see if that helps.

>

>

> >>1 cap Everyday vit,

>

>

> This one can cause sleep issues in children who are phenol

sensitive.

>

> http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>

>

> >> 1 cap probiotic,

>

>

> Yeast die off can cause sleep issues. You might try a different

> probiotic and/or give it 1/2 cap twice per day, instead of 1 cap

once

> per day.

>

> Dana

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Hi,

My daughter had serious sleep issues. Many things helped somewhat - we never

found a single thing that solved the

problem for us, but many changes added up to a child who sleeps through the

night. My heart goes out to the sleepless!

The GFCF diet helped, avoiding phenols helped - any dietary change may help.

A low sugar, high protein, high

vegetable diet helped. Antifungals helped.

The fewer sinus allergy symptoms, the better she slept, so use an

antihistimine if you have to. If the bedroom is

carpeted, then tape a plastic drop cloth to the walls to cover the carpet and

see if that helps. Ultimately remove the

carpet and use cotton throw rugs that you can hot water wash. Tape plastic over

the window in case smut or mold is in

the window. Get a plastic matress cover and cover the matress and box spring

(I've always washed these and let them air

out for a few weeks before using them). I use a matress pad over the plastic

for comfort. Hot water wash the pillow

(and in the hot weather let it air dry to avoid clumping), then use one of those

3M or similar microfiber pillow covers.

Change the pillow case if your child's hair smelled of perfume the previous

night. Wash hair before bed daily with a

non-scented soap (I use 'Botanic Gold').

Wash all bedding in hot water with NO detergent or fabric softener. Washing

disks that work are available at

www.chinaberry.com for around $50. Use pure cotton bedding, white without

colors, and use Andy's suggestion of washing

soda to remove the junk they add, then rewash them with hot water only. Remove

all allergens and add an air cleaner to

the bedroom. Try some melatonin (available via Kirkman's, GNC) to help get him

to sleep. Filter bath water using a

shower head filter - this reduced my daughter's hyperactivity in the PM. I have

my daughter listen to 'relaxation'

music at bedtime, and now if she awakens in the night she will turn it on

herself.

Get a good window shade and close the door - make sure that the bedroom is

completely dark at night. This is very

important.

One final note - the psych. who originated '1-2-3 Magic' says if they awaken

in the night, take them to the potty, let

them go, then put them back to bed. No talking, no lights, just bladder relief.

This also helped - my kid would awaken

and toss and turn, join me in bed and toss and turn, for hours, rather than get

up and go. I guess she didn't realize

why she was being kept awake.

Hope some of this helps. I could tell a story with every item I listed above...

K.

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In a message dated 1/15/03 2:45:05 PM Central Standard Time,

atate526@... writes:

> yesterday I started back with around 2pm and literally had to hold her while

> I rocked to get her to go to sleep. I then went and put her in the bed.

> Last night I told her she was going to be in the bed at 10 (yes she gets to

> stay up until 10) I put her in the bed, we said our prayers, kissed and I

> walked out. Here she comes. I went back in there and layed with her until

> she was in and out. I came out. A little later she came out sleepy eyed.

> I took her back in there and layed down with her. I fell asleep and my dh

> came and got me and who knows what time it was. I need some idea here. It

> may be a continued struggle, but she has alwayyyyyyyyyys done so well and

> now at 2.5 I have sleeping issues?

Cut the afternoon nap? and maybe go to bed at 9 or earlier? JMO of course,

none of my kids really required a nap from around that age or so I've always

been so amazed at people who have kids that nap until they're 4 or 5 and

would still go to bed at night and sleep. (regular scheduled naps, not the

truely tired and need to sleep kind of naps).

With letting her have power naps ensured we didn't go to sleep until 1

or 2 or later in the morning, this was even after a little bitty 10 min nap

in a stroller at the mall. ARGHHHHH...... it took me years to get it

through the heads of the school personal that if they'd just keep her AWAKE

all day rather then letting her sleep we could probably get her to actually

sleep at NIGHT when we really wanted her to and then she wouldn't be so

sleepy at school, a visious circle. . LOL

Anyway,

good luck

Joy

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In a message dated 1/15/2003 6:28:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time,

karriemom@... writes:

> the light shines in my room and keeps waking me

> up!!!

>

Mav has to have the hall light on to sleep. It's on the other side of the

house, but still lights up the whole house. If ANYONE turns it off....he

knows. He used to come and wake me up to tell me that someone had turned it

of. NOW, thank goodness, he just turns it back on and HOPEFULLY goes back to

bed. We are REALLY pushing the telling time issue....Like, You CAN NOT get

up before 6 am. The other night at 3 am he was up, dressed, hair gelled, and

watching a movie ready for school!!

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In a message dated 1/15/03 10:19:12 PM Central Standard Time,

Michdock@... writes:

> Mav has to have the hall light on to sleep. It's on the other side of the

> house, but still lights up the whole house. If ANYONE turns it off....he

> knows.

Well this is an area that shares with Mav, tho she doesnt' have the hall

light, jsut a light next to her bed, with a 5(?)watt bulb, if I sneak in an

shut it off she's always got it on by morning. She also had to have the tv

on, until this past Christmas break, we had to bring it downstairs to hook up

the Playstation and she's been going to sleep just fine without it. Not sure

if I'll put it back in her room now.

As for hall light, we slept with one on for years and years, being an old

house with old fixtures, well the fixture kinda 'burned' out and we didn't

replace it for a couple years, now it's working again but is only left on if

gets up to use the bathroom.

(and the thing is right outside our room, not the other side of the house)

hehe Actually I'd say the light coming in from the moon and yardlight is

more annoying them the hall light, since we shut the door.

Joy

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Just recently, Karrie has began to get up during the night and turn her

overhead light on. I started turning on a nightlight for her. She gets up,

turns off the nightlight, turns on the " big " light, and crawls back in her

bed. She then sleeps soundly the rest of the night.

Wish I could say the same...the light shines in my room and keeps waking me

up!!!

Sue mom to Kate 13 and Karrie 6 w/ds

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Angie,

We've managed to get three out of five kids out of our bed on a more

or less permanent basis. With our boys, who were getting huge and

got in with us every night (in a queen sized bed, no less), we

instituted a " pallet " night every Friday night. They get to sleep on

the floor of our room and like magic they didn't get in bed with us

the other nights. My oldest daughter, Song, is immediately put on

the floor into a sleeping bag that we keep handy for her occasional

nocturnal visits. I guess she doesn't like it much, because she has

stopped coming down to our room. My fourth child, (just turned

3), sleeps with us nightly and it is a horrible habit. She is sweet

and cuddly with silky hair, though, and I think she's become my adult

version of a blankie! Emma can't walk yet and still sleeps in a

crib, so I guess as soon as she can make her way to our room we'll

have to start putting in the sleeping bag. Hmmmm...maybe we

should start that now.

Hope this helps, but it probably won't!!

Jill (Mom to Luke, , Song, , & Emma--DS, 2yrs old)

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angie,

i went through that with my daughter non ds. it took me alot of time to break

her of the habit of getting me to sleep with her. what i endee up doing may

sound abit mean, but it worked & in like no time. i basically put her in bed,

did our routine & i then put a gate up in her doorway. for the first couple

nigtts she did scream & tantrum. i just assired her mommy is right outside your

room & it's time to go to sleep etc etc etc. in less the na week she was

sleeping on her own, with out the gate & no more fits.this all took place when

she was round 2-1/2. and wow 10 pm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my kids both go

in @ 9pm. as far as the naps i did the same & she reacted the same way. she is

now 5 & even though she rarely naps we have quiet time in the afternoon & for 1

hr she is in her room alone for some " her " time. i laydown, paint my toes etc. it

is very nice.

well good luck...

heather mom to johnny 22 months ds,rebecca 5 yrs & due to arrive 5/28 Isabella

sleeping issues

Ok. I just want to run this by you guys. This isnt a ds issue more like a

toddler issue. Sydnie has always went to bed without any problems. She's now

getting to where in order for her to stay in her bed, I have to lay down with

her. I can't start this. (I dont mind, but I just dont think its a good thing

to start) She has always taken naps without any trouble. But its starting to

get like 4-5pm, so yesterday I started back with around 2pm and literally had to

hold her while I rocked to get her to go to sleep. I then went and put her in

the bed. Last night I told her she was going to be in the bed at 10 (yes she

gets to stay up until 10) I put her in the bed, we said our prayers, kissed and

I walked out. Here she comes. I went back in there and layed with her until

she was in and out. I came out. A little later she came out sleepy eyed. I

took her back in there and layed down with! her. & nbs

Angie

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We used to tie BJ's door shut. The house we live in now has high door

handles, so he cant get out of his room. But it also has a lock on it,

so when he get stall enough I will probably lock it, as BJ like s to

wander around, and now that we have an infant to wake up that he adores,

I don't want him wandering around. I have a book called d " toddler

Taming " by Dr Green ( an Aussie book) , and he also suggests

lockingt he door as a last resort. Another mother her e also locks her

child's door. I have no problem with it, as I know exactly where bJ is,

I don't have to worry about it. When we stay at someone else house, I

don't sleep well, as BJ wonders around, and I panic as he has a habit of

escaping places- we have thought about stapling and velcroing him the

bed, but I think that is classified as child abuse :) ........So don't

feel bad about locking you kids in.

Whatever you decide to do, you must stick with it...It is like

controlled crying......be consistent....and it will eventually work......

BJ is in bed at 7-30pm each night, and he comes into our bed every

morning between 6 am and 7-30 am.......We get up as soon as he calls

for us. ( took him 2 days to call nicely :) - if he screams and behaves

like a banshee I don't answer him ) We have both kids in our bed every

morning..it is a great way to wake up :)

Good luck

> i then put a gate up in her doorway.

--

Leis....mum to 5 & Natasha 11 months

The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.

Bertrand (1872 - 1970)

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In a message dated 1/17/03 7:08:38 AM Central Standard Time, lisa@...

writes:

> and I panic as he has a habit of

> escaping places- we have thought about stapling and velcroing him the

> bed, but I think that is classified as child abuse :) ........So don't

> feel bad about locking you kids in.

>

A couple here gagged and taped their boy as well as binding his chest.

He vomited and aspirated and they are now in jail for murder. There was

other abuse as well and it is a burgeoning story. Jessie

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If the gate didn't work with my daughter i would have locked tied etc. i

feel it's better to have your child safe.

heather

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> We used to tie BJ's door shut. The house we live in now has high door

> handles, so he cant get out of his room. But it also has a lock on it,

> so when he get stall enough I will probably lock it, as BJ like s to

> wander around, and now that we have an infant to wake up that he adores,

> I don't want him wandering around. I have a book called d " toddler

> Taming " by Dr Green ( an Aussie book) , and he also suggests

> lockingt he door as a last resort. Another mother her e also locks her

> child's door. I have no problem with it, as I know exactly where bJ is,

> I don't have to worry about it. When we stay at someone else house, I

> don't sleep well, as BJ wonders around, and I panic as he has a habit of

> escaping places- we have thought about stapling and velcroing him the

> bed, but I think that is classified as child abuse :) ........So don't

> feel bad about locking you kids in.

>

> Whatever you decide to do, you must stick with it...It is like

> controlled crying......be consistent....and it will eventually work......

>

> BJ is in bed at 7-30pm each night, and he comes into our bed every

> morning between 6 am and 7-30 am.......We get up as soon as he calls

> for us. ( took him 2 days to call nicely :) - if he screams and behaves

> like a banshee I don't answer him ) We have both kids in our bed every

> morning..it is a great way to wake up :)

>

>

> Good luck

>

>

>

> > i then put a gate up in her doorway.

>

> --

> Leis....mum to 5 & Natasha 11 months

>

> The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.

> Bertrand (1872 - 1970)

>

>

>

>

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OMG i am appauled. why did the parents do that anyway?? that is just unreal.

on a lighter note, i spoke to my hubby who is a cop & locking your child in

their room etc is NOT child abuse. It a perfectly acceptable form of parenting

to keep your child safe. Now locking them in a closet or something is another

story.

heather

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In a message dated 1/17/03 7:08:38 AM Central Standard Time, lisa@...

writes:

and I panic as he has a habit of

escaping places- we have thought about stapling and velcroing him the

bed, but I think that is classified as child abuse :) ........So don't

feel bad about locking you kids in.

A couple here gagged and taped their boy as well as binding his chest.

He vomited and aspirated and they are now in jail for murder. There was other

abuse as well and it is a burgeoning story. Jessie

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Kaitlyn does this as well. Her brother has now started sleeping in her room

with her and she will be satisfied with the night light. But if he's not there,

the overhead light comes on. Thankfully, her bedroom is on the other side of

the house, and doesn't bother our room. Darcy

Re: sleeping issues

Just recently, Karrie has began to get up during the night and turn her

overhead light on. I started turning on a nightlight for her. She gets up,

turns off the nightlight, turns on the " big " light, and crawls back in her

bed. She then sleeps soundly the rest of the night.

Wish I could say the same...the light shines in my room and keeps waking me

up!!!

Sue mom to Kate 13 and Karrie 6 w/ds

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In a message dated 7/31/2003 12:51:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

davineair3@... writes:

> Hi, I am new to this group my six year old son Hayden has asperger. Does

> anyone here have problems with their asperger children not wanting to sleep in

> their own bed or their own room this has become quite an issue for us , I try

> not to make a big deal as we are working on his doing more for himself but I

> am out of ideas.

>

> Thanks in advance

> Jane'e

>

Hi Jane'e,

I have a 4.5 yr old that had trouble sleeping in his own bed. We gave into

his sleeping on the couch and then would transfer him to his bed. He also

wanted to sleep in our bed and when my now 2.5 was a little younger we caved and

let him. He would go to sleep in his bed initially but then awake and insist on

our bed....meltdowns etc., at 3 in the morning. We were all sleep deprived

and just trying to make it work. How we got him to sleep in his bed was a

couple of ways. We bought him special dinosaur sheets, put relaxing music on

(same CD every night), and kept our bedtime routine consistent. TV was not

watched before bed and we had a lot of talks about that his room was a " safe "

place

for him to sleep and that he needed to stay in bed. I also told him I'd be

able to hear him if he ever needed anything. He sleeps with my youngest and

therefore I have a babygate up or Sammy would be in our bed or running around in

the middle of the night! It doesn't seem to bother him now. This took some

time, but I was determined to get my bed back and for my kids to sleep better.

Last night he woke up with a bad dream (big ants) and I had to give him

something to drink, look for ants, and have more light in the room....

I'm wondering if Hayden is having bad dreams? Joe definitely had bad dreams

for awhile and last night was the first one we have had in a long time.

I hope everyone can get some sleep soon :)

Johanna

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Welcome to the list!

My 8 year old son with aspergers loves to sleep in our bed. We do allow him

to come in and join us during the night if he wakes up. Also, on Friday

nights we let both our boys (he has a 3 year old brother) sleep the whole

night with us. On those nights, we usually watch a movie or read stories in

bed, and is a neat family time that we all look forward to each week. These

compromises have worked out well for us. (As an adult with many asperger

traits myself, looking back at my childhood, I am thankful that my mom

always let me crawl in and sleep next to her if I woke up during the night.

I was a lonely child, and with my social difficulties, I think I needed the

human contact, and the feeling of being loved and nurtured that it brought.

Although I was often afraid my mom would say to go back to my room...she

never did. And at 43, that still means alot to me.)

Good luck, and welcome!

~Lori

> > Hi, I am new to this group my six year old son Hayden has asperger.

Does

> > anyone here have problems with their asperger children not wanting to

sleep in

> > their own bed or their own room this has become quite an issue for us

, I try

> > not to make a big deal as we are working on his doing more for himself

but I

> > am out of ideas.

> >

> > Thanks in advance

> > Jane'e

> >

>

> Hi Jane'e,

> I have a 4.5 yr old that had trouble sleeping in his own bed. We gave

into

> his sleeping on the couch and then would transfer him to his bed. He

also

> wanted to sleep in our bed and when my now 2.5 was a little younger we

caved and

> let him. He would go to sleep in his bed initially but then awake and

insist on

> our bed....meltdowns etc., at 3 in the morning. We were all sleep

deprived

> and just trying to make it work. How we got him to sleep in his bed was

a

> couple of ways. We bought him special dinosaur sheets, put relaxing

music on

> (same CD every night), and kept our bedtime routine consistent. TV was

not

> watched before bed and we had a lot of talks about that his room was a

" safe " place

> for him to sleep and that he needed to stay in bed. I also told him I'd

be

> able to hear him if he ever needed anything. He sleeps with my youngest

and

> therefore I have a babygate up or Sammy would be in our bed or running

around in

> the middle of the night! It doesn't seem to bother him now. This took

some

> time, but I was determined to get my bed back and for my kids to sleep

better.

> Last night he woke up with a bad dream (big ants) and I had to give him

> something to drink, look for ants, and have more light in the room....

> I'm wondering if Hayden is having bad dreams? Joe definitely had bad

dreams

> for awhile and last night was the first one we have had in a long time.

> I hope everyone can get some sleep soon :)

> Johanna

>

>

>

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