Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Hi all, my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have this done. I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing your opinions on this... tia, Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 fwiw, We had high hair nickel and chromium levels here on the first test. My daughter had been through yesrs of spacer bar, braces and retainer by that time - all stainless steel. I could not id any nickel source. When the orthodontist looked up the 'stainles steel' ingredients he found 9+% nickel and almost 20% chromium. I had the retainer removed. Within a year those levels went way down. > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > see through it on xray > Mx > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > nikki-mills@... writes: > > > > > > Hi all, > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > this done. > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > your opinions on this... > > tia, Nikki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Unfortunately, from bitter experience i know they will refuse to do a crown of any sort, as it involves having to do 2 GAs.... too hard on the body i was told, but i think the real reason is that it involves extra work for them....lazy @#**s! Just another example of discrimination against our kids in my book..... So i was looking for the least traumatic/toxic avenue for him which i think means persuading them to do gold fillings if the cavity is to deep, i know they do white fillings but they might not want to, it all depends what they find when he is under, as he has not been very co-operative whilst awake! I had a google to find info on gold fillings and they do seem a viable option, ie less toxic that amalgam, so i have now got to persuade them to use it.........I will be offering to pay as i'm sure the NHS can't afford gold fillings! thanks, Nikki x > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > > > see through it on xray > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > > > this done. > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Unfortunately, from bitter experience i know they will refuse to do a crown of any sort, as it involves having to do 2 GAs.... too hard on the body i was told, but i think the real reason is that it involves extra work for them....lazy @#**s! Just another example of discrimination against our kids in my book..... So i was looking for the least traumatic/toxic avenue for him which i think means persuading them to do gold fillings if the cavity is to deep, i know they do white fillings but they might not want to, it all depends what they find when he is under, as he has not been very co-operative whilst awake! I had a google to find info on gold fillings and they do seem a viable option, ie less toxic that amalgam, so i have now got to persuade them to use it.........I will be offering to pay as i'm sure the NHS can't afford gold fillings! thanks, Nikki x > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > > > see through it on xray > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > > > this done. > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Don't you have to have 2 visits (and GAs?)for gold fillings becasue as far as I know they have to be prepared as inlays? I don't think that gold can be worked like amalgam and packed into the prepared cavity and left to set - but perhaps I'm out of date. Margaret > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > > > > see through it on xray > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Don't you have to have 2 visits (and GAs?)for gold fillings becasue as far as I know they have to be prepared as inlays? I don't think that gold can be worked like amalgam and packed into the prepared cavity and left to set - but perhaps I'm out of date. Margaret > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > > > > see through it on xray > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Nikki, if you're going to pay extra and end up having all sorts of arguments, you may want to see an IAOMT dentist and just pay out of pocket for their services. A dentist like this will know how to place composites so that they last a long long time. this may be a crazy and useless suggestion, but I know that loads of people in the UK used to travel to Cyprus for dental work. Maybe there is something to that in you could end up paying the same amount but get a few days in the sun for your ds to recover. I'm not sure there are IAOMT dentists in Cyprus, but there are in Italy and I think France (not sure if that would be cheaper though). This is one IAOMT dentist listed in the UK http://www.moonfleet.co.uk/ Anita > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > > > > see through it on xray > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Nikki, if you're going to pay extra and end up having all sorts of arguments, you may want to see an IAOMT dentist and just pay out of pocket for their services. A dentist like this will know how to place composites so that they last a long long time. this may be a crazy and useless suggestion, but I know that loads of people in the UK used to travel to Cyprus for dental work. Maybe there is something to that in you could end up paying the same amount but get a few days in the sun for your ds to recover. I'm not sure there are IAOMT dentists in Cyprus, but there are in Italy and I think France (not sure if that would be cheaper though). This is one IAOMT dentist listed in the UK http://www.moonfleet.co.uk/ Anita > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one side > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them extraced > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are not skilled > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place white fillings, > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they put no > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on you can't > > > > see through it on xray > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA to have > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the fillings > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a white > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed and to avoid > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about suggesting > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this ie what > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure gold,so what > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate hearing > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 He is the DB, and my dentist Mx In a message dated 21/03/2012 18:29:02 GMT Standard Time, mysuperteach@... writes: This is one IAOMT dentist listed in the UK http://www.moonfleet.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 He is the DB, and my dentist Mx In a message dated 21/03/2012 18:29:02 GMT Standard Time, mysuperteach@... writes: This is one IAOMT dentist listed in the UK http://www.moonfleet.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 And he even came to first TA conference Mx In a message dated 21/03/2012 18:29:02 GMT Standard Time, mysuperteach@... writes: This is one IAOMT dentist listed in the UK http://www.moonfleet.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 And he even came to first TA conference Mx In a message dated 21/03/2012 18:29:02 GMT Standard Time, mysuperteach@... writes: This is one IAOMT dentist listed in the UK http://www.moonfleet.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Thanks everyone for your input, I hadn't realised using gold was going to be more difficult than amalgam, so that may be a non-starter, i think i need to have a chat with the dentist about this. Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? Maybe a SS crown is the answer Mandi, i'll talk to them about this Thanks Nikki x > > > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one > side > > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them > extraced > > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are > not skilled > > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place > white fillings, > > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they > put no > > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on > you can't > > > > > see through it on xray > > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA > to have > > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the > fillings > > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a > white > > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed > and to avoid > > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about > suggesting > > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this > ie what > > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure > gold,so what > > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate > hearing > > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Hi Nikki,You can have sedation or even GA with private dentists - I was just chatting with a private children's dentist here in SW London and they do GA, sedation and tranquilisers when needed.  The dentist just needs to contract with an anaesthesiologist - in this case it's a paed anaesthesiologist that they contract with. Darla x  Thanks everyone for your input, I hadn't realised using gold was going to be more difficult than amalgam, so that may be a non-starter, i think i need to have a chat with the dentist about this. Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? Maybe a SS crown is the answer Mandi, i'll talk to them about this Thanks Nikki x > > > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one > side > > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them > extraced > > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists are > not skilled > > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place > white fillings, > > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure they > put no > > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on > you can't > > > > > see through it on xray > > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA > to have > > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the > fillings > > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do a > white > > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) removed > and to avoid > > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering about > suggesting > > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this > ie what > > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure > gold,so what > > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate > hearing > > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Darla, this sounds good, can you email me their details off list so i can have a talk with them please.. nikki-mills @ hotmail.co.uk (without spaces) thanks x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one > > > side > > > > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them > > > extraced > > > > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists > > are > > > not skilled > > > > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place > > > white fillings, > > > > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure > > they > > > put no > > > > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on > > > you can't > > > > > > > see through it on xray > > > > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA > > > to have > > > > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the > > > fillings > > > > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do > > a > > > white > > > > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) > > removed > > > and to avoid > > > > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering > > about > > > suggesting > > > > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this > > > ie what > > > > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure > > > gold,so what > > > > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate > > > hearing > > > > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 For anyone else who may want the info:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1036535/Children-learn-open-wide-fear---dentists-own.html http://www.toothbeary.com/ I got it wrong - they do not do GA but they do oral, inhalation and IV sedation with an anathesiologist.  Since we haven't needed anything other than checkups and cleaning, I don't know anything about the materials that they use but the dentist is very approachable and chatted with me for quite a while on the phone about working with children with autism.  We've got an appointment next week for an initial visit.  Darla xOn 22 March 2012 10:45, Nikki <nikki-mills@...> wrote:  Darla, this sounds good, can you email me their details off list so i can have a talk with them please.. nikki-mills @ hotmail.co.uk (without spaces) thanks x > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they are the very very back teeth, count from front down one > > > side > > > > > > > (number 3 is eye tooth), if they are number 7 or 8 I'd have them > > > extraced > > > > > > > instead, if its number 6 best to try and keep it, SN dentists > > are > > > not skilled > > > > > > > enough in general neither have the experience to properly place > > > white fillings, > > > > > > > Stainless steel crown would be better way to go, making sure > > they > > > put no > > > > > > > amalgam underneath and that they understand why coz once its on > > > you can't > > > > > > > see through it on xray > > > > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 21/03/2012 11:56:40 GMT Standard Time, > > > > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my son (16) needs 2 fillings in his back teeth, he requires a GA > > > to have > > > > > > > this done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know how bad the decay is, but i do know that if the > > > fillings > > > > > > > needed are going to be deep ones the SN dentists wont want to do > > a > > > white > > > > > > > filling. So to avoid him having to have the tooth (teeth) > > removed > > > and to avoid > > > > > > > letting them put amalgam in his mouth, i have been wondering > > about > > > suggesting > > > > > > > he has gold fillings, do any of you have any thoughts about this > > > ie what > > > > > > > are the pros and cons? I realise gold fillings will not be pure > > > gold,so what > > > > > > > other nasties might they have in them? I would really appreciate > > > hearing > > > > > > > your opinions on this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tia, Nikki > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Way to risky to do in surgeries, always was but then only for extractions so its super qucik, for restorative work you need nasal intubation. only in hospital or SEN clinic with consultant anaethetist is how we did it when I was dental nurse for SEN clinic Mx In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, nikki-mills@... writes: Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 They are normally used on baby teeth that would otherwise be extracted to hold space and try to ward off overcrowding problems but they all sizes or at least they should do Mx In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, nikki-mills@... writes: Maybe a SS crown is the answer Mandi, i'll talk to them about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Yes,we had more than one (I think) person suffer serious brain damage at the private dental surgery in Cambridge a few years ago which offered sedation. Mind you the anaesthetist wasn't British-trained and was using his very own cocktail of drugs that was not a recognised form of sedation.I think they also didn't have proper resuscitation facilities. Margaret > > Way to risky to do in surgeries, always was but then only for extractions > so its super qucik, for restorative work you need nasal intubation. only in > hospital or SEN clinic with consultant anaethetist is how we did it when I > was dental nurse for SEN clinic > Mx > > > In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, > nikki-mills@... writes: > > Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work > the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago > all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it > was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both > would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Just so you know to avoid him: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Cambridge/Anaesthetist-is-still-not-fit-to-sedat\ e-children.htm He's still working as a dentist. > > > > Way to risky to do in surgeries, always was but then only for extractions > > so its super qucik, for restorative work you need nasal intubation. only in > > hospital or SEN clinic with consultant anaethetist is how we did it when I > > was dental nurse for SEN clinic > > Mx > > > > > > In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work > > the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago > > all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it > > was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both > > would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Even worse - he's now allowed to sedate children again: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Mum-slams-decision-to-lift-ban-on-dentist-2\ 7052011.htm Margaret > > > > > > Way to risky to do in surgeries, always was but then only for extractions > > > so its super qucik, for restorative work you need nasal intubation. only in > > > hospital or SEN clinic with consultant anaethetist is how we did it when I > > > was dental nurse for SEN clinic > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work > > > the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago > > > all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it > > > was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both > > > would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Yikes, this is very scary. Â Makes me think twice about paying out the wazoo for a private sedation not to mention the cost of the dental work itself. Â I wish there was a way to check the credentials of the anathesiologist before a private sedation. Â I just hope that we won't ever need one but that seems unlikely given that refuses to have his teeth brushed. Â On 22 March 2012 15:23, Margaret <m.collins9@...> wrote: Â Even worse - he's now allowed to sedate children again: http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/Home/Mum-slams-decision-to-lift-ban-on-dentist-27052011.htm Margaret > > > > > > Way to risky to do in surgeries, always was but then only for extractions > > > so its super qucik, for restorative work you need nasal intubation. only in > > > hospital or SEN clinic with consultant anaethetist is how we did it when I > > > was dental nurse for SEN clinic > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental work > > > the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many years ago > > > all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was decided it > > > was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and both > > > would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 on this topic of avoiding cavities, I doubt it is the brushing that makes the biggest difference. DS has had a couple hundred rounds of chelation, which means he has had yogurt or pear puree in his mouth twice a night for at least 600 nights. He has no cavities. I almost always add probiotics to the chelators and believe that good bacteria is preventative. Also ds has had a lot of vitamin D and K in is life. As well he gets chewable vitamins with xylitol and baking with xylitol in it. I think all of these things can help enormously. Weston A Price looked at the mouths of loads of people who never used a toothbrush in their lives, and if they were living traditionally still, there was often only one cavity in the entire village. Which shows that there's a lot more to dental health than almost any dentist can tell you. Anita > > > > > > > > > > Way to risky to do in surgeries, always was but then only for > > extractions > > > > > so its super qucik, for restorative work you need nasal intubation. > > only in > > > > > hospital or SEN clinic with consultant anaethetist is how we did it > > when I > > > > > was dental nurse for SEN clinic > > > > > Mx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 22/03/2012 10:27:30 GMT Standard Time, > > > > > nikki-mills@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > Anita, unfortunately in this country if you need sedation for dental > > work > > > > > the only way to go is via the NHS as far as i can ascertain. Many > > years ago > > > > > all dentists here were able to do it, but at some point it was > > decided it > > > > > was too dangerous so only special clinics or hospitals do it now and > > both > > > > > would be NHS i believe, unless anyone knows different? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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