Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Shari - re drug companies - for starters - and the tip of the iceberg - have you been reading the paper lately about Vioxx and other pain medications? The drug companies knew a looong time before they pulled the stuff that it was dangerous and heaven knows how many people were affected. Even died. But perhaps Bee could weigh in on the subject. In the meantime, I don't mean to sound harsh but it sounds like you have put up barriers to " alternative " medicine. If you are here to get yourself well, it would help if you were a tad more open-minded to various treatments suggested. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Also to Sheri, this is the morning after my garlic/coffee enema and my eczema is better, and I also don't feel tired like I have been. If that is quackery I'll take the quackery over modern medicine any day...because they haven't been able to help me in 9 years. All they've been able to do is give me drugs to suppress my immune system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Drug companies 46% of Americans take at least one prescription drug daily. http://www.healingdaily.com/conditions/pharmaceutical-companies.htm Although drugs are sometimes appropriate and at times can save a person’s life, most of the time they are unnecessary, expensive and harmful. My advice would be to recognize that you should seek natural therapies which address the cause of the disease before choosing a drug-based solution. I can assure you that the number of people who actually need drugs is a small percentage of those taking them. For example, people are being prescribed drugs for heartburn when it is one of the easiest health problems to treat. Most people ignore the fact that heartburn is an important clue from their body and rely on a drug instead to suppress the symptoms. In case you haven't figured it out by now, the major reason for the traditional medical paradigm is the influence of the most powerful industry in the United States, the drug companies. Drug companies exert a major influence on the majority of studies published and nearly all of medical education. This influence is what causes doctors to use their expensive symptomatic 'patch-up' drugs as solutions for people's problems. Drug companies have been able to get away with their high prices because the vast majority of people do not pay for their medications anymore. It's insurance companies that are picking up the tab. Since most people do not pay for it directly, drug companies are able to get away with charging outrageous prices. Drug companies are the most profitable industry The drug companies claim that they need large earnings - 125,835,595,000 in 1999 (2) - to conduct their research and development. They have a point - only up to a degree. Aggressive research is indeed needed. The medications produced by the pharmaceutical industry have improved the quality and length of life of many people. But this justification loses credibility when: 1. Just 1 out of every 5 dollars the drug industry collects goes to drug research. 2. Some drug companies spend almost twice as much money for advertising and marketing as they spend for research. 3. Drug industry profits are so large they outstrip every other industry's profits by far (3). Drug companies are the most profitable industry. In 2001, a year which saw a drop in employment rates, a plunge in the stock market and symbols of America's economy literally come crashing down, the drug companies continued their reign as the most profitable industry in the annual Fortune 500 list. While the overall profits of Fortune 500 companies declined by 53%, which was the 2nd biggest dive in profits the Fortune 500 has taken in its 47 years, the top 10 U.S. drug companies increased their profits by 33% (3). Collectively, the 10 drug companies in the Fortune 500 topped all 3 of the Fortune magazine's measures of company profitability for 2001, according to the magazine's annual analysis of America's most important companies. These drug companies had the greatest return on revenues, reporting a profit of 18.5 cents for every $1 of sales, which was 8 times higher than the median for all Fortune 500 industries, easily surpassing the next most profitable industry, which was commercial banking with a 13.5% return on revenue)(3). The system is badly broken and in need of a change. We cannot spend over one trillion dollars for health care just to improve profits for drug companies. We have the capital to more than adequately treat nearly all people. What we need to do is shift our perspectives and priorities. This emphasis on drugs is one of the main reasons why spending for prescription drugs is the fastest-growing category of health care expenditures. It is also one of the major factors contributing to the fact that doctors are a major leading cause of death in the United States, due to the fact that they have an over reliance on using drugs as 'patch-up' solutions, rather than seeking the cause of the problem. How safe are prescription drugs? In 1998 an extensive study published in the reputable Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) showed that 106,000 people die each year in American hospitals from medication side effects (4). Let's look at this statistic a different way: 106,000 deaths a year averages out to nearly 300 deaths per day, every day. Deaths from all major airline crashes in the U.S. average less than 300 annually, but 1 airplane crash gets more media attention and governmental scrutiny than the 300 medication-related deaths which occurred not only on the same day as the airline crash, but also every day before and after for decades. (and these drugs are legal given by physicians)(MH) Why has this epidemic of side effects gone unrecognized? Deaths from medication reactions rarely look any different from natural deaths. There's no visible wreckage to videotape, no crash sites to fascinate and horrify TV viewers. As media people say, 'No film, no story'. Media and public relations firms, and how they shape the public's awereness, are discussed in more detail here. Medication deaths often occur quietly in hospitals, emergency rooms and private homes. When medication-related deaths occur, it's often unclear at first whether the cause was the medication, the illness, or some other factor. In other words, to much of the media, there is nothing sexy about side effects. The reported adverse effects of drugs are only the tip of the iceberg. Consider 'Digoxin', the best-selling heart drug. According to an article in JAMA, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) receives about 82 reports each year involving Digoxin, yet a systematic study of Medicare records reveals 202,211 hospitalizations for Digoxin adverse effects in a 7-year period (5). That's more than 28,000 reactions per year, 82 of which the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) hears about. Read about 10 prescription drugs withdrawn from the market since 1997, after being used by millions of people, on page 2 of this article. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 what are you talking about? estradiol? estriol? wild yam cream? actually really truly bioidentical hormones at the right dose do not have " side effects " . you are just replacing hormones your body needs and doesn't make enough of. (like thyroid). I would only take estradiol--well that's what I take, compounded in olive oil. Bio-identical hormones are for sure wonderful. Gracia and re the bio-identical estrogen cream that I am trying- it does have side effects per my natural medicine MD. it can cause headaches, nausea, and diarrhea. so far I have all 3 side effects' experiences, but I am still willing to try it longer. oh and the other natural medicine I take is armour. Recent Activity a.. 22New Members Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 I am taking plant based estrogen in a bio-identical compound based cream which I rub on the inside of the arm; alternating sides each day- and they do have side effects. my md is board certified in internal medicine and natural medicine with clinical training in both. I think she knows what she is talking about. It does not have any progesterone in it. I am not taking progesterone right now. I have to see if the estrogen works out. I am taking the smallest dose one can take and still have benefits. I put a 1/2 tsp amount. they are wonderful if you can tolerate them without them making you sicker as in my case with my lupus. From: Gracia Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:58 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: drug companies what are you talking about? estradiol? estriol? wild yam cream? actually really truly bioidentical hormones at the right dose do not have " side effects " . you are just replacing hormones your body needs and doesn't make enough of. (like thyroid). I would only take estradiol--well that's what I take, compounded in olive oil. Bio-identical hormones are for sure wonderful. Gracia and re the bio-identical estrogen cream that I am trying- it does have side effects per my natural medicine MD. it can cause headaches, nausea, and diarrhea. so far I have all 3 side effects' experiences, but I am still willing to try it longer. oh and the other natural medicine I take is armour. Recent Activity a.. 22New Members Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 yikes. I was not aware that plants make estrogen. you need to treat lupus properly and then it will disappear. gracia I am taking plant based estrogen in a bio-identical compound based cream which I rub on the inside of the arm; alternating sides each day- and they do have side effects. my md is board certified in internal medicine and natural medicine with clinical training in both. I think she knows what she is talking about. It does not have any progesterone in it. I am not taking progesterone right now. I have to see if the estrogen works out. I am taking the smallest dose one can take and still have benefits. I put a 1/2 tsp amount. they are wonderful if you can tolerate them without them making you sicker as in my case with my lupus. From: Gracia Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 9:58 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: drug companies what are you talking about? estradiol? estriol? wild yam cream? actually really truly bioidentical hormones at the right dose do not have " side effects " . you are just replacing hormones your body needs and doesn't make enough of. (like thyroid). I would only take estradiol--well that's what I take, compounded in olive oil. Bio-identical hormones are for sure wonderful. Gracia and re the bio-identical estrogen cream that I am trying- it does have side effects per my natural medicine MD. it can cause headaches, nausea, and diarrhea. so far I have all 3 side effects' experiences, but I am still willing to try it longer. oh and the other natural medicine I take is armour. Recent Activity a.. 22New Members Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2008 Report Share Posted April 4, 2008 Why take hormones? Isn't it natural to decrease in hormones? Why replace them? cw -- Re: drug companies what are you talking about? estradiol? estriol? wild yam cream? actually really truly bioidentical hormones at the right dose do not have side effects " . you are just replacing hormones your body needs and doesn't make enough of. (like thyroid). I would only take estradiol--well that's what I take, compounded in olive oil. Bio-identical hormones are for sure wonderful. Gracia and re the bio-identical estrogen cream that I am trying- it does have side effects per my natural medicine MD. it can cause headaches, nausea, and diarrhea. so far I have all 3 side effects' experiences, but I am still willing to try it longer. oh and the other natural medicine I take is armour. Recent Activity a.. 22New Members Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 for several reasons. 1. chemo shut down my cycle for good in my 30's, so my natural MD thinks it would be healthier for me if I had normal estrogen levels for my age. But, since I have sle it is rather controversial... 2. estrogen is involved in your cell's ability to not leak fluid into the tissues and thus cause 3rd spacing. my Md believes that since I have a major problem with 3rd spacing, increasing my estrogen levels will decrease it. the estrogen helps make the walls of the cell stronger. 3. she is hoping that the estrogen will improve my bone density since I have osteoporosis from the high dose decadron steroid I had to take for 10 years. From: Crystal Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:36 PM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: drug companies Why take hormones? Isn't it natural to decrease in hormones? Why replace them? cw -- Re: drug companies what are you talking about? estradiol? estriol? wild yam cream? actually really truly bioidentical hormones at the right dose do not have side effects " . you are just replacing hormones your body needs and doesn't make enough of. (like thyroid). I would only take estradiol--well that's what I take, compounded in olive oil. Bio-identical hormones are for sure wonderful. Gracia and re the bio-identical estrogen cream that I am trying- it does have side effects per my natural medicine MD. it can cause headaches, nausea, and diarrhea. so far I have all 3 side effects' experiences, but I am still willing to try it longer. oh and the other natural medicine I take is armour. Recent Activity a.. 22New Members Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2008 Report Share Posted April 5, 2008 Makes sense, but how about those people who have not been through any of that -- Re: drug companies what are you talking about? estradiol? estriol? wild yam cream? actually really truly bioidentical hormones at the right dose do not have side effects " . you are just replacing hormones your body needs and doesn't make enough of. (like thyroid). I would only take estradiol--well that's what I take, compounded in olive oil. Bio-identical hormones are for sure wonderful. Gracia and re the bio-identical estrogen cream that I am trying- it does have side effects per my natural medicine MD. it can cause headaches, nausea, and diarrhea. so far I have all 3 side effects' experiences, but I am still willing to try it longer. oh and the other natural medicine I take is armour. Recent Activity a.. 22New Members Visit Your Group Health Heartburn or Worse What symptoms are most serious? Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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