Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 Someone at the WAPF conference who went out to dinner with us gave me several pieces of bee pollen for desert. There were about two or three of them in my portion, and each had the diameter equivalent to the width of an eye of a needle. Nevertheless, they were probably the sweetest most delicious and luxurient food I've ever had, and those several pieces were a satisfactory desert. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2003 Report Share Posted October 9, 2003 --- In , " toragua " <toragua@y...> wrote: > What is your opinion on bee pollen? From what I have read, it appears > to be quite nutrient dense, although composition seems to vary quite a > bit. > > What would be a good source for high quality bee pollen (in the US)? > How could you test that it wasn't heated? > > -- the anecdotal lore about bee pollen is astounding over a long period of time, a few thousand years at least i guess, and it does contain lots of nutrients, but there are two key points in my mind about it. first of all, the nutrients that we can measure are ones we already know about from other foods and can get ample amounts of from these other foods; it is the ones that we don't yet know about and can't yet measure that may give a unique benefit, so it's just another case of a " herbal mystery " , where the best logic is " if you're pretty sure it's safe, and have access to a good source (i.e., you're wealthy or lucky), then it's worth a try " . the second point is that it's sometiems claimed the nutrients in bee pollen are hard to absorb (because of cellulose or something--i can't recall), but i really don't know how true this is. as far as a source of pollen, just find a local aviary and ask them about their methods and see their setup in person. i've done this with two local guys and purchased bee pollen and honey. both are just backyard artisanal operations. one of them seems higher quality than the other (said he doesn't go above 102 degrees), and he brings his bees down to florida for the winter to eat real food instead of feeding them sugar water, which is apparently the norm, even among otherwise extremely scrupulous sources of unheated honey. you might want to ask about winter feeding practices in addition to the normal temperature questions. you might also want to purchase honeycomb directly from a beekeeper, because then you can be extra confident it wasn't heated at all. i tried some and i found that eating the beeswax was a fairly neutral experience. honey is not part of my regular diet; this was for fun and curiosity and to have it on hand for guests and occasional culinary experiments. as i mentioned a few weeks ago, i like to add bee pollen to a small glass of kefir. the sweetness of the pollen is highlighted to a dramatically delicious effect. by the way, speaking of pollen, i have only recently learned that cattail pollen is an edible and nutritious food that can be easily gathered in significant quantities for free. i will be harvesting as much as possible next summer. google under " cattail pollen " . if you're curious. i'm very curious about other sources of pollen that i might be able to gather wild. mike parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 I believe the root of cattail is edible too. Not sure what nutrients are in it, but it is starchy. My granma used to talk about baking and eating them as well as daylily roots during the depression. Amy Re: Bee pollen > What is your opinion on bee pollen? From what I have read, it appears > to be quite nutrient dense, although composition seems to vary quite a > bit. > > What would be a good source for high quality bee pollen (in the US)? > How could you test that it wasn't heated? > > -- the anecdotal lore about bee pollen is astounding over a long period of time, a few thousand years at least i guess, and it does contain lots of nutrients, but there are two key points in my mind about it. first of all, the nutrients that we can measure are ones we already know about from other foods and can get ample amounts of from these other foods; it is the ones that we don't yet know about and can't yet measure that may give a unique benefit, so it's just another case of a " herbal mystery " , where the best logic is " if you're pretty sure it's safe, and have access to a good source (i.e., you're wealthy or lucky), then it's worth a try " . the second point is that it's sometiems claimed the nutrients in bee pollen are hard to absorb (because of cellulose or something--i can't recall), but i really don't know how true this is. as far as a source of pollen, just find a local aviary and ask them about their methods and see their setup in person. i've done this with two local guys and purchased bee pollen and honey. both are just backyard artisanal operations. one of them seems higher quality than the other (said he doesn't go above 102 degrees), and he brings his bees down to florida for the winter to eat real food instead of feeding them sugar water, which is apparently the norm, even among otherwise extremely scrupulous sources of unheated honey. you might want to ask about winter feeding practices in addition to the normal temperature questions. you might also want to purchase honeycomb directly from a beekeeper, because then you can be extra confident it wasn't heated at all. i tried some and i found that eating the beeswax was a fairly neutral experience. honey is not part of my regular diet; this was for fun and curiosity and to have it on hand for guests and occasional culinary experiments. as i mentioned a few weeks ago, i like to add bee pollen to a small glass of kefir. the sweetness of the pollen is highlighted to a dramatically delicious effect. by the way, speaking of pollen, i have only recently learned that cattail pollen is an edible and nutritious food that can be easily gathered in significant quantities for free. i will be harvesting as much as possible next summer. google under " cattail pollen " . if you're curious. i'm very curious about other sources of pollen that i might be able to gather wild. mike parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 > I believe the root of cattail is edible too. Not sure what nutrients are in it, but it is starchy. My granma used to talk about baking and eating them as well as daylily roots during the depression. Amy i read a bunch of things about cattail a while ago, and most parts of the plant are edible... the root contains gluten BTW! leave your appestats at home before you head out for the pond! mike parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 You can have my cattails if I can have your frog legs. LOL Amy Re: Bee pollen > I believe the root of cattail is edible too. Not sure what nutrients are in it, but it is starchy. My granma used to talk about baking and eating them as well as daylily roots during the depression. Amy i read a bunch of things about cattail a while ago, and most parts of the plant are edible... the root contains gluten BTW! leave your appestats at home before you head out for the pond! mike parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 > You can have my cattails if I can have your frog legs. LOL Amy okay, you can have the legs, but i'm keeping the innards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Then you won't have anything to fish with, unless you want to part with some of your corn ear worms. AMy Re: Bee pollen > You can have my cattails if I can have your frog legs. LOL Amy okay, you can have the legs, but i'm keeping the innards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 > Then you won't have anything to fish with, unless you want to part with some of your corn ear worms. AMy i'd only part with them in a water closet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 >the root contains gluten BTW! leave your appestats at home before >you head out for the pond! > >mike parker " Gluten " is the catchall word for " proteins in grain " -- it is really, really inaccurate. There is gluten in corn and rice too ... but it usually doesn't cause so much problem. Technically what I react to is " gliadin " , and hordein in barley and some other protein in rye. I don't think cattail root would be a problem ... -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 Fish aren't picky. Problem is getting that to stay on the hook. Amy Re: Bee pollen > Then you won't have anything to fish with, unless you want to part with some of your corn ear worms. AMy i'd only part with them in a water closet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:57:40 -0000 " toragua " <toragua@...> wrote: >What is your opinion on bee pollen? From what I have read, it appears >to be quite nutrient dense, although composition seems to vary quite a >bit. > >What would be a good source for high quality bee pollen (in the US)? >How could you test that it wasn't heated? > >-- > I'm a fan of all the products of the beehive and from a nutritional standpoint think they are a fabulous addition the diet. Thje best way is to find a supplier who will put royal jelly, propolis and pollen in honey, that is the best storage medium. Second best would be cold storage. This is one case where heat is definitely the enemy. There is a supplier who says their stuff is raw and unprocessed and that they never heat any of their bee products but only subject them to cold storage: http://www.ccpollen.com/ The People vs. Rush Limbaugh http://tinyurl.com/qon2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 Oh yes....what a Super Food Bee Pollen is...best to get organic and raw of course...the the absolute BEST is when it is still sticking to the comb you have to know a Bee Keeper to get these though you can eat how ever much your taste buds want I guess..never have heard of a toxic amt. of bee pollen....you would not want more then about a TBLS though.....it is not Cheap put in smoothies or I make a Super Duper Tropical Trail mix from all raw/dehydrated Island tropical fruit/berries/coconut and some pollen totally awesome !! > > Are bee pollen granules a beneficial food? If so, why, and how much should > be eaten for maximum benefit? > > Thanks, > > Leah > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2007 Report Share Posted January 27, 2007 On 1/26/07, Leah <leahrose@...> wrote: > > Are bee pollen granules a beneficial food? If so, why, and how much > should > be eaten for maximum benefit? > > Thanks, > > Leah > [] - for those who are not allergic, yes. Start with just a couple of granules and work your way up. The problem with bee products is that their efficacy is so easily destroyed, so you have to be really diligent about your sourcing. -- What is the ballot? It is neither more nor less than a paper representative of the bayonet, the billy, and the bullet. It is a labor-saving device for ascertaining on which side force lies and bowing to the inevitable. The voice of the majority saves bloodshed, but it is no less the arbitrament of force than is the decree of the most absolute of despots backed by the most powerful of armies. ~ R. Tucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 In a message dated 1/28/2007 9:35:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, haecklers@... writes: > Still, it is > very important where the pollen comes from - from poisonous plants it > can be toxic, and same for plants heavily sprayed with chemicals - it > will be contaminated. > Where do you get your bee pollen from? Thanks ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Bee pollen granules can be a wonderful food if you're not allergic to pollen. They are extremely high in protien, full of enzymes and other unidentified elements that act like natural antibiotics. Still, it is very important where the pollen comes from - from poisonous plants it can be toxic, and same for plants heavily sprayed with chemicals - it will be contaminated. I eat a teaspoon of them whenever I feel a slump because it is amazingly uplifting - really energizing and the nice thing is it energizes nutritionally by feeding us healthful things, not by pushing organs that are tired into squeezing out just a little more. > > Are bee pollen granules a beneficial food? If so, why, and how much should > be eaten for maximum benefit? > > Thanks, > > Leah > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 http://www.herbs-herbal-remedies.com/list_of_herbs_b.htm Bee Pollen is rich in minerals and vitamins, including calcium, magnesium, manganese, potassium, zinc, riboflavin, thiamin and vitamins A,B6,C,D,E and K, and including 12 different unsaturated fatty acids. Bee Pollen is natures perfect food containing all the essential vitamins 22 amino acids, 28 minerals, 14 fatty acids and many trace elements. Bee Pollen helps promote energy and Bee Pollen is used in the treatment of allergies. Bee Pollen also contains biotin, a vitamin that is important for the skin, hair and nails. Plus, it provides protein, essential oils, essential amino acids, flavonoids and carotenoids, which are important for the synthesis of vitamin A in the body. Other possible benefits include healing skin wounds, acne and fighting gum infections and sore throats. (Forms available: Creams, ointments, salves, powders, granules, tablets and capsules) ******************************************************* http://www.womens-health-fitness.com/bee-pollen-benefits.html Bee Pollen Benefits Guide & What Bee Pollen Benefits You May Receive With Bee Pollen Bee pollen benefits are terrific and chances are that you could improve your health substantially with the various bee pollen benefits. The benefits of bee pollen have been documented for an extremely long time. But before getting into the many benefits of bee pollen you should learn a little more about it to better understand its benefits. Bee pollen actually contains all of the nutrients you need to live. Certain studies on mice that have been fed exclusively bee pollen and nothing else have not shown any signs of malnourishment. Some of the bee pollen benefits have to do with the fact that bee pollen has high concentrations of the B vitamin complex, and also contains Vitamins A, C, D, and E. While there are many bee pollen benefits the only side effect is for those who are allergic to bees. If you are allergic to bees it would be best to avoid bee pollen. One of the benefits bee pollen is well known for is that it acts very effectively as a natural energizer for your body. Here you will find just some of the best bee pollen benefits. Many people claim that the list of benefits is almost endless, but a lot have yet to be proven. Scientists, physicians and researchers have been experiencing very positive outcomes in their work with bee pollen and decades of success to prove the many benefits of bee pollen. There are have been many reports, articles and books that have been written suggesting that the bee pollen benefits extend to being able to slow down the aging process. Bee pollen benefits also extend to the area of weight loss. Bee pollen has shown to have an ability to help in fat loss by rectifying a chemical imbalance that many people with weight problems tend to have. Other weight control benefits of bee pollen include improving your metabolism (the rate at which your body burns fat); dissolving and flushing fat cells from your body due to the high percentage of lecithin contained in bee pollen; and it also helps to reduce your cravings for food. Other bee pollen benefits include the fact that it is very effective in lowering your cholesterol levels. Bee pollen benefits relating to your sexual health are well documented as well. There have been many studies proving that bee pollen is very helpful in restoring the health of womens reproductive system and relief from the discomfort of PMS was also noted. For men the bee pollen benefits for health are even greater. Researchers have recently found that bee pollen is very effective in helping prevent prostate problems. This is one of the best bee pollen benefits for men. In addition, over 50% of men who were given bee pollen in a study of bee pollen benefits experienced a dramatic improvement in sperm count and were able to perform better sexually... after just one month of taking bee pollen. Bee pollen benefits extend into almost every area of health that you can think of. Some really amazing medical results have been achieved. Bee Pollen helps to improve your immune system and detoxifies your body and much more. There have also been some studies that show it may help in alleviating allergies. There have also been a many clinical trials that have been carried out using bee pollen on cancer. Athletes often use bee pollen for endurance, strength, stamina, and mental clarity. The problem for many years, however, is that in order to receive the benefits of bee pollen it has been necessary to supplement with large amounts. This is due to the fact that your body can actually use only about five percent of the active ingredients. However, with recent research into the many benefits of bee pollen it has been possible for some manufacturing companies of bee pollen to drastically improve the bioavailability of the bee pollen, therefore providing you with even more bee pollen benefits. In addition, it is now also possible to make the bee pollen even more potent because normally some of the active ingredients are damaged during the extraction process. But with recent advances the quality of certain bee pollen is getting even better. In fact, one company has been able to release about 95% of the active ingredients of bee pollen into your body when you take it. This is completely the opposite of most bee pollen that normally only gets five percent! " The Bottom Line On Bee Pollen Benefits " Bee pollen benefits are so great and more importantly have been proven to be excellent for your health, that it would be wise to give bee pollen an honest try. But don’t just purchase any bee pollen that you see. You get the best bee pollen benefits from freeze-dried bee pollen. This type of bee pollen prevents the substance from becoming oxidized that leads to degradation. Also avoid heat dried or processed bee pollen, which destroys the nutrients and important enzymes. The only way you can be sure you are receiving the best bee pollen benefits is to buy your bee pollen from a pharmaceutical GMP compliant facility. This type of manufacturing facility is the top of the line and adheres to the highest manufacturing standards. In fact, the same standards that are required by law, of pharmaceutical drugs. GMP compliance is the highest bee pollen standard possible. Now, there is a bee pollen manufacturer that meets all of the requirements and more for the best bee pollen and bee pollen benefits possible. They have one of the strictest regulatory environments in the world for the manufacture of bee pollen, far exceeding U.S. FDA standards. We have confidence in this brand of bee pollen and can with certainty vouch for this product as being your best choice. This is the same manufacturer of bee pollen talked about earlier that has managed to be able to release about 95% of the active ingredients of bee pollen into your body when you take it. If you have any questions at all about bee pollen benefits, please use the form at the bottom of this page to contact our experts on bee pollen benefits. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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