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Hi,

Welcome to the group! It's not too late for your son. As you know

Cranial Tech will band up until 24 mos. My baby was banded from the

time she was almost 11.5 mos until she was 22.5 mos old. She received

awesome correction. She too had facial asymmetry, her band corrected

it. You can see her pictures in the photo section in the file .

Cranial Tech will also check out his tort. Please keep us posted.

> hi my name is kathy and my son noah is 18mo. old. he has

torticollis

> and plagiocephaly. the tort was discovered at 4mo. and he did pt

and

> we did stretching at home. the pt stopped the therapy after a few

> months and said he was better. he seemed to be but now he is older

> and he still has the tort. he also has slight plagio. i can see it

> more than others esp since he now has hair. i took him to a

> specialist in portland, me at 7 mo and they said just do the

> stretching and he should be fine. however as i said he still has

the

> tort. we have started the stretching again. i am taking him to

> clinton on the 31st to see dr. persing and to cranial tech. the

left

> side of his face is a little concave from his ear to jaw. i think

ti

> is noticeable even though others don't. i would like to fix it if

> possible. is he too old? will the helmet help his face? is it just

> cosmetic at this point? could it get worse as he continues to grow?

i

> will see what the doc says but was just wondering what people

thought

> or what experiences others have had. i am worried too about the

cost

> of the helmet and the travel as i live in northern maine. any

> feedback would be helpful thanks!

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Hi Kathy,

I am glad to hear that you have continued to persue this with your son and haven't taken the "dont' worry" for an answer. Certainly I cannot answer all your questions - - there will be others on the board who will be able to answer some of them better than I. I am afraid your PT may have not been up on the lastest about tort. It seems to me that she dismissed too early. My PT has recommended continued services until Catriona is walking(she started at 6 mos) and then continued stretches after that. so I am really not sure why they dimissed you so soon. You may want to ask for a consult with a different PT as well. Also I have found that a good chiropracter has also helped with both the plagio and the tort (just a thought). I am sure CT will be able to tell you whether or not it is too late for the band as well as the experience of others on this board. Good Luck and keep us posted here.

Sherri and Catriona (DOC banded 9-25)

Acworth GAkath25292003 <kath25292003@...> wrote:

hi my name is kathy and my son noah is 18mo. old. he has torticollis and plagiocephaly. the tort was discovered at 4mo. and he did pt and we did stretching at home. the pt stopped the therapy after a few months and said he was better. he seemed to be but now he is older and he still has the tort. he also has slight plagio. i can see it more than others esp since he now has hair. i took him to a specialist in portland, me at 7 mo and they said just do the stretching and he should be fine. however as i said he still has the tort. we have started the stretching again. i am taking him to clinton on the 31st to see dr. persing and to cranial tech. the left side of his face is a little concave from his ear to jaw. i think ti is noticeable even though others don't. i would like to fix it if possible. is he too old? will the helmet help his

face? is it just cosmetic at this point? could it get worse as he continues to grow? i will see what the doc says but was just wondering what people thought or what experiences others have had. i am worried too about the cost of the helmet and the travel as i live in northern maine. any feedback would be helpful thanks!For more plagio info

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-hi thanks for the info. how did you find a chiropractor? was this

very helpful? i was thinking of trying one but wasn't sure. let me

know

thanks

-- In

Plagiocephaly , Sherri struan <sstruan@y...> wrote:

> Hi Kathy,

> I am glad to hear that you have continued to persue this with your

son and haven't taken the " dont' worry " for an answer. Certainly I

cannot answer all your questions - - there will be others on the

board who will be able to answer some of them better than I. I am

afraid your PT may have not been up on the lastest about tort. It

seems to me that she dismissed too early. My PT has recommended

continued services until Catriona is walking(she started at 6 mos)

and then continued stretches after that. so I am really not sure why

they dimissed you so soon. You may want to ask for a consult with a

different PT as well. Also I have found that a good chiropracter has

also helped with both the plagio and the tort (just a thought). I am

sure CT will be able to tell you whether or not it is too late for

the band as well as the experience of others on this board. Good

Luck and keep us posted here.

>

> Sherri and Catriona (DOC banded 9-25)

> Acworth GA

>

> kath25292003 <kath25292003@y...> wrote:

> hi my name is kathy and my son noah is 18mo. old. he has

torticollis

> and plagiocephaly. the tort was discovered at 4mo. and he did pt

and

> we did stretching at home. the pt stopped the therapy after a few

> months and said he was better. he seemed to be but now he is older

> and he still has the tort. he also has slight plagio. i can see it

> more than others esp since he now has hair. i took him to a

> specialist in portland, me at 7 mo and they said just do the

> stretching and he should be fine. however as i said he still has

the

> tort. we have started the stretching again. i am taking him to

> clinton on the 31st to see dr. persing and to cranial tech. the

left

> side of his face is a little concave from his ear to jaw. i think

ti

> is noticeable even though others don't. i would like to fix it if

> possible. is he too old? will the helmet help his face? is it just

> cosmetic at this point? could it get worse as he continues to grow?

i

> will see what the doc says but was just wondering what people

thought

> or what experiences others have had. i am worried too about the

cost

> of the helmet and the travel as i live in northern maine. any

> feedback would be helpful thanks!

>

>

>

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Hi Kathy,

You are definitely on the upper end of treatment time, but CT will band up until age 2. After they turn 1, their growth does slow considerably so you will not see as much correction as you would have getting him started sooner. Having said that, we did not band my son Trentyn until 13 months and now at almost 18 months, he is in his 2nd band. Even at his older age, we continue to see improvement. Every day is a little better and I can honestly look at his head now without cringing, lol.

As far as the tort, I agree with what someone else said. I am surprised they released you so early. Trentyn has been in PT for quite a while for the tort and just recently were we told he could be released as he finally has full range of motion. Good luck with whatever you decide. CT is great and will be honest with you about his chance of success with banding.

Jen- TXTrentyn- 17 mo. DocBand 06/12/03 & 09/17/03

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hi my name is kathy and my son noah is 18mo. old. he has torticollis and plagiocephaly. the tort was discovered at 4mo. and he did pt and we did stretching at home. the pt stopped the therapy after a few months and said he was better. he seemed to be but now he is older and he still has the tort. he also has slight plagio. i can see it more than others esp since he now has hair. i took him to a specialist in portland, me at 7 mo and they said just do the stretching and he should be fine. however as i said he still has the tort. we have started the stretching again. i am taking him to clinton on the 31st to see dr. persing and to cranial tech. the left side of his face is a little concave from his ear to jaw. i think ti is noticeable even though others don't. i would like to fix it if possible. is he too old? will the helmet help his face? is it just cosmetic at this point? could it get worse as he continues to grow? i will see what the doc says but was just wondering what people thought or what experiences others have had. i am worried too about the cost of the helmet and the travel as i live in northern maine. any feedback would be helpful thanks!For more plagio info

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Sherri, hi and welcome to the group! You have rec'd some wonderful

replies so I won't repeat them. Good luck and please keep us

updated!!

Dustie, mom to , DOCGrad'03

> hi my name is kathy and my son noah is 18mo. old. he has

torticollis

> and plagiocephaly. the tort was discovered at 4mo. and he did pt

and

> we did stretching at home. the pt stopped the therapy after a few

> months and said he was better. he seemed to be but now he is older

> and he still has the tort. he also has slight plagio. i can see it

> more than others esp since he now has hair. i took him to a

> specialist in portland, me at 7 mo and they said just do the

> stretching and he should be fine. however as i said he still has

the

> tort. we have started the stretching again. i am taking him to

> clinton on the 31st to see dr. persing and to cranial tech. the

left

> side of his face is a little concave from his ear to jaw. i think

ti

> is noticeable even though others don't. i would like to fix it if

> possible. is he too old? will the helmet help his face? is it just

> cosmetic at this point? could it get worse as he continues to grow?

i

> will see what the doc says but was just wondering what people

thought

> or what experiences others have had. i am worried too about the

cost

> of the helmet and the travel as i live in northern maine. any

> feedback would be helpful thanks!

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Kathy

The way I recommend finding a chiropracter is go to the international pediatric chiropractic association (IPCA) 's website. And look for one in your area. If you don't find one do some asking around for recommendations. If that does work, look for one you might like to try and go there yourself for an adjustment and make thedecision on your gut feeling. It should be a family environment. I just happened to pick one before pregnancy for the purpose of helping me through pregnancy. Let me be clear though. Nothing can replace the band for correcting plagio. Chiropractic care is a supplement. Catri's chiropracter does adjust the plates of her head. I did see improvement with this, but not like the band. Good Luck let me know how it works out.

Sherri & Catriona (DOC banded 9-25)

Acworth GAkath25292003 <kath25292003@...> wrote:

-hi thanks for the info. how did you find a chiropractor? was this very helpful? i was thinking of trying one but wasn't sure. let me know thanks

-- In Plagiocephaly , Sherri struan <sstruan@y...> wrote:> Hi Kathy,> I am glad to hear that you have continued to persue this with your son and haven't taken the "dont' worry" for an answer. Certainly I cannot answer all your questions - - there will be others on the board who will be able to answer some of them better than I. I am afraid your PT may have not been up on the lastest about tort. It seems to me that she dismissed too early. My PT has recommended continued services until Catriona is walking(she started at 6 mos) and then continued

stretches after that. so I am really not sure why they dimissed you so soon. You may want to ask for a consult with a different PT as well. Also I have found that a good chiropracter has also helped with both the plagio and the tort (just a thought). I am sure CT will be able to tell you whether or not it is too late for the band as well as the experience of others on this board. Good Luck and keep us posted here.> > Sherri and Catriona (DOC banded 9-25)> Acworth GA> > kath25292003 <kath25292003@y...> wrote:> hi my name is kathy and my son noah is 18mo. old. he has torticollis > and plagiocephaly. the tort was discovered at 4mo. and he did pt and > we did stretching at home. the pt stopped the therapy after a few > months and said he was better. he seemed to be but now he is older > and he still has the tort. he also has slight plagio. i can

see it > more than others esp since he now has hair. i took him to a > specialist in portland, me at 7 mo and they said just do the > stretching and he should be fine. however as i said he still has the > tort. we have started the stretching again. i am taking him to > clinton on the 31st to see dr. persing and to cranial tech. the left > side of his face is a little concave from his ear to jaw. i think ti > is noticeable even though others don't. i would like to fix it if > possible. is he too old? will the helmet help his face? is it just > cosmetic at this point? could it get worse as he continues to grow? i > will see what the doc says but was just wondering what people thought > or what experiences others have had. i am worried too about the cost > of the helmet and the travel as i live in northern maine. any > feedback would be helpful thanks!> >

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I just sent you an email; I hope you got it!

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " dgcsmom " <lcjohnson@f...>

wrote:

> I just joined this group looking for some information. My husband

> and I adopted twin girls from China a month ago. Today they were

> just diagnosed with positional plagiocephaly, and we are being

> strongly encouraged to put them in helmets to try to correct the

> problem. I have heard that the helmets have limited success,

> especially with older children (our girls are 14 months old). I'm

> also having a hard time understanding why the doctors seem to

think

> it is so important to try to correct the problem. From what I can

> tell through my research, there is no medical condition or

potential

> medical problem resulting from plagiocephaly; the main reason, as

> near as I can tell, is to change the appearance and make it look

> more " normal. " I just don't know if I want to put my children

> through 6 months of helmet therapy (through the hot summer, no

less)

> just to make them look more " normal. " (It's not like they look

like

> monsters or anything! They are very cute!) Plus there's the chance

> that it might not work at all. And of course, it's not cheap.

>

> I guess what I am asking is, is there anyone who has chosen NOT to

> do helmet therapy, and if so, do you regret it? Has anyone had a

> success with helmet therapy with a child over a year old? Any

other

> advice anyone can give me?

>

> I am very confused about what to do, and I would appreciate any

> input anyone could give me. Please e-mail me privately, as I am

set

> to no-mail.

>

> Thank you,

>

>

> lcjohnson@f...

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hi katie,

hopefully your doctor is familiar with the bands. I have found

that some doctors are not. your doctor will probably write you a script

( if he or she thinks you need one) then you will have a consulation

with the manufacture you decided to go with. then they will measure

his head and if they feel he is a candidate they will schedule a

casting and talk with you about payment. I never noticed my daughters

plagio they did at her 4 month appointment and referred me to a PT for

her torticollis and the PT referred me to cranial technologies. My

doctor had to write the script for me. a normal head is off by 4mm my

daughters is 16mm ,severe is 20mm. hopefully you get the help your son

needs . good luck to you

Sincerely,

Meagan and Eydie DOC Band #1

>

> I was just talking to another mom of a kid with plagio and she was

> telling me all about it so I looked it up on and it really

looks

> like my son may have it. I am calling his doc tomorrow but I would

> like some info on what to expect.

>

>

>

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Hi - How old is Asher? Did you expect this diagnosis? Are you

relieved (because maybe you sensed it) or were you surprised?

cheryl

6 month diagnosed plagio last week

canada

>

> My son Asher was just diaginosed with Plagiocephaly today and we

are

> being refered to a specialist. I am wondering what to expect at our

> first visit with the specalist.

>

>

>

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Asher is 10 months old but I have noticed his head was weird shaped

since like 4 months. The doc then told me to watch it and have it

rechecked at 6 months. Well that doc was an idiot and told me oh its

nothing. Well today the doctor we saw took one look at him one look at

the paper work I had with me and was like yup thats what he has. I

will put your referal in right away. So I have been researching this

for a good 6 months and finally got a doctor who believes me. We are

military so we dont always see the same doctor each time. But I am

finally happy someone listened to me and we can try and get it fixed.

They say from 10 months on its iffy as to if anything will change.

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Hi ,

I've seen post from a lot of moms who had children 10 mo or older when

they started a band and saw good correction. Where are you getting the

band? The key is to work with someone experienced who really knows

what they are doing. There are some questions for the ortho in the

files section. There are so many doctors who say it will fix itself.

It is really hard sometimes to find the right care for your baby. I'm

glad you have the info you need now.

good luck.

-christine

mom to sydney/ 10.5 mo/ starband grad 10-06

>

> Asher is 10 months old but I have noticed his head was weird shaped

> since like 4 months. The doc then told me to watch it and have it

> rechecked at 6 months. Well that doc was an idiot and told me oh its

> nothing. Well today the doctor we saw took one look at him one look at

> the paper work I had with me and was like yup thats what he has. I

> will put your referal in right away. So I have been researching this

> for a good 6 months and finally got a doctor who believes me. We are

> military so we dont always see the same doctor each time. But I am

> finally happy someone listened to me and we can try and get it fixed.

> They say from 10 months on its iffy as to if anything will change.

>

>

>

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, my son has had 2 bands, one at 7 months and a second one at 11

months. My husband and I agree that he got more correction from the

second band, so I assure you that 10 months is not too old or too late.

Good luck, don't waste any time!

Tulip and baby (15 months old, almost out of 2nd band)

>

> Asher is 10 months old but I have noticed his head was weird shaped

> since like 4 months. The doc then told me to watch it and have it

> rechecked at 6 months. Well that doc was an idiot and told me oh its

> nothing. Well today the doctor we saw took one look at him one look

at

> the paper work I had with me and was like yup thats what he has. I

> will put your referal in right away. So I have been researching this

> for a good 6 months and finally got a doctor who believes me. We are

> military so we dont always see the same doctor each time. But I am

> finally happy someone listened to me and we can try and get it fixed.

> They say from 10 months on its iffy as to if anything will change.

>

>

>

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try message 76698 to start look under identification under search Jeanne

>

> Back a few months ago there was a posting for indentification tags -a

> great tool for a child who is non-verbal can wear. Ex. I am

> non-verbal but inderstand. Please call this number. Can someone

> please give me this website again. My son will be starting preschool

> in the fall and I would love to get him a few to put on his

> clothing-better to be safe than sorry.

>

> Thank you!

> Amy

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Here are a few websites for id tags:

www.laurenshope.com

www.identifyyourself.com

www.idtags.com

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> Back a few months ago there was a posting for indentification tags -a

> great tool for a child who is non-verbal can wear. Ex. I am

> non-verbal but inderstand. Please call this number. Can someone

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> in the fall and I would love to get him a few to put on his

> clothing-better to be safe than sorry.

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This is probably the message which was from March 2008 and has

archives and information from The Late Talker book:

Re: med Id bracelet ??

Below are a few archives on this topic which has come up quite often.

As you'll read below -don't put too much personal info on the ID

tag...

In a nutshell (and more below on tips)

" I posted a long time before that to have the following information

on ID tags

Learning to talk

Able to understand

Please call 123-456-7890

I would put " learning to talk " so that they knew he had some type of

speech impediment -and not that he was in shock or something when he

didn't talk. I would put " able to understand " so they knew he

wasn't mentally retarded or deaf -and wouldn't talk in front of him

like he wasn't there. And I would put our contact number (for

obvious reasons) "

Please do say yes to IDs!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~start of archives of archives on IDs

Hi everyone and Happy Father's Day!

I kind of recall someone bringing up recently the fear of their

essentially non-verbal child getting lost in a public place -but

couldn't find it when I searched just now. No fear -I have 2 cents

to add anyway!

Yesterday while we were at MGM Studios over by Lights Motor Action

and Honey I Shrunk the Kids, I saw something that may interest some

here. They had the machine they have at places like Pet Smart that

make dog tags, except they didn't call them dog tags, they were in

fun shapes with Disney characters and came in various sizes...and a

wee bit more expensive then the ones you can make at Pet Smart.

(start price was 10 bucks)

They had a photo of them being used as decorations/ID for shoes and

all, but as we all know most of us don't buy them for " fun " , and I'm

sure Disney too is aware of the more serious reason why those

machines are there and why we as parents will be attracted to them.

While most parents won't go to/or think to go to PetSmart for their

kids ID tags -they took away the pet aspect.

I don't recall seeing them before, nor did I notice them at the

Magic Kingdom, Epcot or Animal Kingdom but then again I wasn't

really actively looking for this tag machine. Just great to know

that this group isn't the one group of parents out there who need

creative ways to keep ID on our children in case they get lost!

Couldn't find anything about it online -so must be pretty new and

again don't recall seeing it before.

Here's another one I just found for those that don't know about this:

http://www.whosshoesid.com/

Here's some archives on this topic:

Re: ID tags

" What I would really like is to get a GPS implantable tag "

great minds think alike! Below is a helpful message about

IDs and various ways of going about this -as well as a message I

sent here awhile ago about when 'I' first came up with " lojack for

kids " in the toy industry and was told that was just crazy. They're

doing it for years now in pets -and guess what? It 'is' being

tested right now in people -but it does freak out many. Guess it's

too Big Brotherish for some (who don't know what it's like to be in

a state of horror if God forbid your 4 or 5 year old child runs off

at the mall and can't say he own name no less his phone number!)

To this day I'll never forget the day our family went to a wine

harvesting festival in NJ where you help pick the grapes -then take

part in a big party with food and music. Alba Vineyards does or did

it each year and it's awesome http://www.albavineyards.com

Tanner somehow wandered off from the group of us. It was our family

and some neighbor's and their kids too...Tanner was just all of a

sudden out of sight gone. One minute everyone saw him and the next -

gone. We couldn't find our little pumpkin who looked like a baby

cherub, our 4 year old who was essentially nonverbal. (This is the

fancy party I've talked about here where Tanner pointed to a plate

of cookies and said " doo doo doodie? " which was his way of asking

for a cookie.)

We were surrounded by endless fields of grapes and the winery with all

the

large vats and equipment, the sun was setting, and I felt horror

like you have no idea unless you were in this situation. I ran

towards the one exit out and shouted not to let any cars leave. I

wanted to check trunks (they didn't do that) We had everyone

looking and Tanner was found behind a vat. I guess one day we will

be able to look back on that and laugh -perhaps when he's an

adult. Right now it's still a memory that makes me feel sick.

Re: ability to know phone number etc.../ID Bracelets etc.

This topic has come up many times and with many horror stories as to

why to get an ID bracelet. This is why we have resources and

reasons as well as suggestions for ID bracelets in The Late Talker

book.

Vicki, may not need insurance to cover them. ID's don't have to be

costly to be effective -they can be -but in addition to the obvious

ID bracelets -you can use anything to 'make' an ID bracelet -

including the 5 dollar doggie tag from the local pet store attached

to a sneaker shoelace or something.

I do have an archive from a few years ago for those of you who may

or may not

have read The Late Talker. Since my kids

are now a bit older (and speaking of out of the box " IDs " ) I also

have a

suggestion for those of us with older children that works really

well -I recommend looking into it.

A few weeks ago I posted a story about how a child was lost at

Universal and how devastated he was -and how miraculously in that

crazy crowd of people I somehow found his mother.

/message/37902

That child looked to be around ten years old. Almost right after

that happened my husband went out and purchased two cheaper Nextel

phones http://www.nextel.com/ for our two boys who are now 8 and 10

years old. Programmed into the phone are all the emergency numbers

our kids would need as a just in case. They both know they are not

allowed to use the phone for anything but an emergency -but the

direct connect/two way or for those who don't know -walkie talkie

aspect -that's free no matter how much it's used. In addition to

peace of mind when we go to places like the theme parks now that

they can no longer get 'lost' Tanner has all of a sudden enjoyed

talking on the phone. Not that he didn't or wouldn't talk on the

phone before -but not much. Then of course there is the 'cool'

factor (something to think of when you have a child with a speech

impairment -even one like Tanner who has lots of friends and isn't

teased) Some of you may think doing this a bit extravagant, but

honestly after paying over 100 dollars an hour (!!) for just one

session

of therapy -the 30 or so bucks a month (!!) for security and

encouraging

more speech sounds like a steal.

Our two boys now have two other friends who have Nextel as well...I

think I smell a trend -someone just has to do the marketing -and not

much!

I tried to contact the inventor of http://www.petsmobility.com/ -

would love to help work on marketing for that concept for children

but he didn't call me back! Hmph. (and tried to secure the domain

name 'kidsmobility' but the owner of petsmobility already had but...I

did secure 'kidmobility' Anyway the inventor of petsmobility must

be thinking, like me and I'm sure others....just watch -you'll see

it in a few

years)

From: " kiddietalk <kiddietalk@...> " <kiddietalk@...>

Date: Fri Feb 7, 2003 9:08 pm

Subject: Re: ID Brancelets

Hi Carole!

A few people (including me) just posted some places to find ID

bracelets which you probably read right after you sent your message.

Another place someone suggested about a year ago was using the ID

tags you

can pick up pretty inexpensively at the pet stores which typically

allow you around three lines. You can then attach it to the laces of

the shoes

(near the toes)

I posted a long time before that to have the following information

on ID

tags

Learning to talk

Able to understand

Please call 123-456-7890

I would put " learning to talk " so that they knew he had some type of

speech impediment -and not that he was in shock or something when he

didn't talk. I would put " able to understand " so they knew he

wasn't mentally retarded or deaf -and wouldn't talk in front of him

like he wasn't there. And I would put our contact number (for

obvious reasons)

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There's also one for out in public called Safety Tat. They are temporary

tattoos and have Non-verbal and Autistic Tat's! Tattoos

<http://www.safetytat.com> . There are some other temp tats out

there..this is the only one I've seen that includes special kids in

their products. I used them this weekend at Hershey!

>

> Back a few months ago there was a posting for indentification tags -a

> great tool for a child who is non-verbal can wear. Ex. I am

> non-verbal but inderstand. Please call this number. Can someone

> please give me this website again. My son will be starting preschool

> in the fall and I would love to get him a few to put on his

> clothing-better to be safe than sorry.

>

> Thank you!

> Amy

>

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