Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 > I need to pipe in here, because Cocoa Absolute has become the bane of > my existence right now! I do OIL-based perfumes; I don't like alcohol. > > I purchased a bottle of very rich-smelling Cocoa Absolute from Eden > Botanicals and was assurred by Barbara that it should blend well with > Fractionated Coconut Oil. Nuh-uh. It sits there like oil in the > clearer Coconut. > > Since then, I've tried Grapeseed Oil, Jojoba Oil (which is a wax), and > a few others, and nothing seems to blend with the Cocoa Abs. Even > gently warming them and swirling them together does not get them to > blend. > > Any ideas on how to overcome this problem? > > Greyson I tinctured crushed cacao nibs in 190 proof alcohol about 8 months ago... for the first few months I thought it was a lost cause, but I just got it out again and holy cow! It's very rich, nearly as strong as the absolute, with distinctly fruity tea notes. Since you work with oil, you could try crushing some raw nibs into your oil of choice in a double boiler, then letting it age. Good luck! Rose > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 > > Hi Greyson, > Have you tried making a perfume solid? > Maggie > > > Didn't we have a member that made > lip gloss with cacao and choclate? > also cannot you keep the EO in the medium then strain > after you get the desired strength? I've made a chocolate lip balm by adding powdered cocoa to the mix. I use cocao absolute in a chocolate soap. http://www.sagescript.com http://sagescript.blogspot.com Microbiology, Distillates, Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 > > Hi Greyson, > Have you tried making a perfume solid? > Maggie > > > Didn't we have a member that made > lip gloss with cacao and choclate? > also cannot you keep the EO in the medium then strain > after you get the desired strength? I've made a chocolate lip balm by adding powdered cocoa to the mix. I use cocao absolute in a chocolate soap. http://www.sagescript.com http://sagescript.blogspot.com Microbiology, Distillates, Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 > > Hi Greyson, > Have you tried making a perfume solid? > Maggie > > > Didn't we have a member that made > lip gloss with cacao and choclate? > also cannot you keep the EO in the medium then strain > after you get the desired strength? I've made a chocolate lip balm by adding powdered cocoa to the mix. I use cocao absolute in a chocolate soap. http://www.sagescript.com http://sagescript.blogspot.com Microbiology, Distillates, Botanicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 > Ditto. And I spent a bit of time tearing my hair out over it, but > then I did as suggested somewhere in the archives, blended it (and at > a low percentage!) in a double boiler. Did it completely blend? Did > it appear to blend even a smidge? God no. I stuck it in a corner and > ignored it for a month. Then I randomly pulled it out and noticed > that the top 98% of the bottle (the sweet almond oil) has been > perfumed in a lovely manner by the absolute. (The abs is still > sitting at the bottom unblended, but the carrier oil is now gorgeous.) Hi, Karoline! Thank you for your response! This is precisely what I was going through, and once I saw your post I went and looked at the 'discarded' test vials I'd left in a box and tested the separated carrier on top--it's gorgeous! I think, in Barbara's defense, when she told me to " ...filter out the particulate matter... " she probably meant to say " ...siphon off the carrier and use that. " > I've had thoughts of trying to do a kind of double infusion to try and > make it stronger - to pour off the good stuff that I have and try to > double boil it again with another dose of the abs to see if it'd make > a stronger chocolate, for blending. I haven't a clue if it'd work, > but it seems logical. When I bought Immortelle/Helichrysm, I was told to warm it more than a few times to make the absolute infuse the carrier oil, so you might not even have to use a new batch of Cocoa Abs. to do this. I'd try rewarming the first batch and leaving it sit for a bit longer and see what you get. > > I purchased a bottle of very rich-smelling Cocoa Absolute from Eden > > Botanicals and was assurred by Barbara that it should blend well with > > Fractionated Coconut Oil. > > I'd bet a bundle on a mis-communication -- 'cause it says right > there on the site that it " does not blend with fixed oils. " > (http://www.edenbotanicals.com/essentials2.html#cocoa) Actually, her response to me on blending it with the coconut was directly in response to my pointing out that the WEBSITE stated it would not blend with fixed oils, but that there was no disclaimer on the pricelist. She said something like, " Huh. Well, I blended it with fractionated coconut oil and had no trouble at all... " and then she went into what she did. Like I noted above, I think she meant " siphon " instead of " filtering " when she was telling me. But thanks to you and everyone else who replied! It was very helpful and I'm eagerly awaiting a reply from Butch Owens about purchasing some of his Cocoa Abs. Greyson Manna Oils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2008 Report Share Posted August 20, 2008 > I tinctured crushed cacao nibs in 190 proof alcohol about 8 months > ago... for the first few months I thought it was a lost cause, but I > just got it out again and holy cow! It's very rich, nearly as strong > as the absolute, with distinctly fruity tea notes. Since you work > with oil, you could try crushing some raw nibs into your oil of choice > in a double boiler, then letting it age. > > Good luck! > > Rose Rose, did you use RAW cacao nibs or ROASTED cacao nibs? Greyson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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