Re: TOTD 8-6 Body Chemistry and Scent...And Ethnicity...?

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Shea wrote:

> <How does skin affect the smell of your scents or ingredients? I know

> that I can't put osmanthus on my skin because it turns sour. I also

> can't use lavender in any deodorant preparation because it only makes it

> worse. On the other hand, I put a little bit of vetiver with

> co-distilled mitti on my wrist a while ago and it turned sweet and

> lovely. Oud reacts very well with my skin. Patchouli doesn't seem to

> change one way or the other. I used to have dark hair (nearly all grey

> now) and brown eyes and my skin has always tanned well.

>

> What have you noticed...?

The scents that seem to work best on me are the same ones as yours,

, as well as sandalwood. I havent' noticed anything turning funky

or sour exactly, but some things, mostly herbs and some flowers, seem

to take on a grassy, hay-like note on me. The vanillic/balsamic things

don't change on me at all. I have a similar complexion(but not grey

yet!) to yours.

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Hi Folks, ....

Just to clear stuff up...

The quote in the TOTD 8-6 was actually Andrine, who had suggested it....

I too had dark hair and brown eyes, but much of the hair has been

lost....and remainder graying....<G>...

I've never fooled with osmanthus, and lavender likes me...

Vetiver and patchouli don't seem to change much...if at all...

Sandalwood and I get along very well...

I also tan well.....

I wonder if ethnicity might have anything to do with things like this...

With a name like Bourbonais, one would assume Central-Southern European

maybe, but there was a jump from France to Canada for a several

generation interrim....

And Ma was straight Finlander...Grandpa and Grandma had immigrated from

Finland....

Remember an eye doctor commenting that my retinas were strange given my

name....

I commented I was half Finn...and....that explained the Nordic

retinas...Lighter in color than the general rule for Central-South

European...

I like to think of meself as an American mutt....<G>....

--

W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

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Just to clear stuff up...

The quote in the TOTD 8-6 was actually Andrine, who had suggested it....

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Well, , I'm actually the grey-haired,doesn't get along with

osmanthus lady who suggested the subject. I don't want people

thinking Andrine has grey hair without cause, LOL.

I was hoping for more posts on this because I have thought that

skin does change a scent. Maybe just not as much as with me.

And I would guess ethnicity does play a role. My background

is basically English with, my mom always told me, a little gypsy

by way of Czechoslovakia thrown in.

Elise

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Elise Pearlstine wrote:

>

> Just to clear stuff up...

> The quote in the TOTD 8-6 was actually Andrine, who had suggested it....

>

> ------------------

>

> Well, , I'm actually the grey-haired,doesn't get along with

> osmanthus lady who suggested the subject. I don't want people

> thinking Andrine has grey hair without cause, LOL.

>

> I was hoping for more posts on this because I have thought that

> skin does change a scent. Maybe just not as much as with me.

> And I would guess ethnicity does play a role. My background

> is basically English with, my mom always told me, a little gypsy

> by way of Czechoslovakia thrown in.

>

> Elise

ARRRGHHHH.....!

Elise is certainly correct here...

Me correcting ...incorrectly...

My apologies to , Elise, and Andrine...

--

W. Bourbonais

L'Hermite Aromatique

A.J.P. (GIA)

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> <How does skin affect the smell of your scents or ingredients?

I'm fairly white-skinned with a lot of freckles, greenish-greyisch eyes and

brown hair with reds in it... I don't tan easily and burn quickly in the

sun. I have ish ancesters. I can't wear anything with patchouli on my

skin, it just smells very bad, bleuch. My husband on the other hand, with a

fairly tanned skin, doesn't burn from sunshine, brown eyes and dark brown

hair (already greyisch too now at the age of 35 <grin>) smells very sensual

with patchouli on his skin.

I've also noticed perfumes (the synthetic ones I used when I was young, as

well as the natural ones now) tend to have less tenacity on my skin than on

my husbands or mothers, who both have a darker natural skintone than me. Has

anyone noticed this fact too, that perfumes have less tenacity on fairer

skins?

Greetz from Belgium,

Saskia

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From: Saskia Van Besauw <Saskia.VanBesauw@...>

Subject: RE: TOTD 8-6 Body Chemistry and Scent...And

Ethnicity...?

Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 8:42 AM

> <How does skin affect the smell of your scents or ingredients?

I'm fairly white-skinned with a lot of freckles, greenish-greyisch eyes and

brown hair with reds in it... I don't tan easily and burn quickly in the

sun. I have ish ancesters. I can't wear anything with patchouli on my

skin, it just smells very bad, bleuch. My husband on the other hand, with a

fairly tanned skin, doesn't burn from sunshine, brown eyes and dark brown

hair (already greyisch too now at the age of 35 <grin>) smells very

sensual

with patchouli on his skin.

I've also noticed perfumes (the synthetic ones I used when I was young, as

well as the natural ones now) tend to have less tenacity on my skin than on

my husbands or mothers, who both have a darker natural skintone than me. Has

anyone noticed this fact too, that perfumes have less tenacity on fairer

skins?

Greetz from Belgium,

Saskia

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Hi Saskia!

I was remembering that darker skin holds a scent longer -

but not sure if I was remembering right. I think a scent also

lasts longer in a more humid environment, doesn't evaporate as

fast.

Elise

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Just to clear stuff up...

The quote in the TOTD 8-6 was actually Andrine, who had suggested it....

I was hoping for more posts on this because I have thought that

skin does change a scent. Maybe just not as much as with me.

And I would guess ethnicity does play a role. My background

is basically English with, my mom always told me, a little gypsy

by way of Czechoslovakia thrown in.

Elise

Hello all

Before coming to my senses I bought ETERNITY because of

the way it smelled on my Korean classmate in school. It smelled

cheap and tawdry brands on me however. Big revelation...makes me think

melanin might play a part but definatly realization time of body

chemistry.

Bb

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Just to clear stuff up...

The quote in the TOTD 8-6 was actually Andrine, who had suggested it....

I was hoping for more posts on this because I have thought that

skin does change a scent. Maybe just not as much as with me.

And I would guess ethnicity does play a role. My background

is basically English with, my mom always told me, a little gypsy

by way of Czechoslovakia thrown in.

Elise

Hello all

Before coming to my senses I bought ETERNITY because of

the way it smelled on my Korean classmate in school. It smelled

cheap and tawdry brands on me however. Big revelation...makes me think

melanin might play a part but definatly realization time of body

chemistry.

Bb

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Just to clear stuff up...

The quote in the TOTD 8-6 was actually Andrine, who had suggested it....

I was hoping for more posts on this because I have thought that

skin does change a scent. Maybe just not as much as with me.

And I would guess ethnicity does play a role. My background

is basically English with, my mom always told me, a little gypsy

by way of Czechoslovakia thrown in.

Elise

Hello all

Before coming to my senses I bought ETERNITY because of

the way it smelled on my Korean classmate in school. It smelled

cheap and tawdry brands on me however. Big revelation...makes me think

melanin might play a part but definatly realization time of body

chemistry.

Bb

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earthy scents here as well. Love them all and I have an amber resin oil that I

will rub down with from head to toe and whats left I rub in my wet hair, blow

dry and talk about a nice subtle scent!

There are no 'blast' points or 'concentration' points of a lot of scent in one

area.....that just gags me......that said.......I began oils because my mother,

who has NO sense of smell would reek in Avon's rose or .....are you all sitting

down?..........CHARLIE.............omg........that stuff smelled like cat pee

and I could not even be near person who wore it, that window in the winter in

Colorado was down if she had that on. I don't understand why that scent ever got

into the market.............

But anybody remember 'Skinny Dip'? that came out the same time Brute

did......now that I liked. once in a while you can find that on a collectors

page on ebay.....I wouldn't mind trying to come up with something like that.

e

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I really dont think thats an ethnic thing. What smelled great on my dids did not

smell very good on me. I have the type of system that mosquitos will attack me

THRU my shirt.......and I'll be the only one they are biting too!

So is it an acidic/akaline thing? or the fact I'm type two diabetic and give off

a scent that rallies them around? I think some of that is stereotype too. I

have a gf that I make a scent for , she is african americn and I'm not, it

smells great on both of us.....I also make a lot of soaps with patch oil and

depending upon what I blend it with, it will smell different on each person.

e

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On Aug 12, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Selkie wrote:

> I have an amber resin oil that I will rub down with from head to

> toe and whats left I rub in my wet hair, blow dry and talk about a

> nice subtle scent!

What's amber resin oil?

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I used my mortar and pestle and crushed some amber, used a wee bit of artisans

alcohol to make sure it was melted and added that to fractionated coconut oil.

Voila'.....amber oil! (you can melt it in the microwave too)

It is DA BOMB........and it keeps bugs off too!

Amber is a scent that me and my daughter LOVED.....she always had a pendant with

a chunk of amber in it. I use it in special soaps but I always have it in the

frac oil. If I want extra emollient, I'll add hydrovance. But that scent stays

all day and when you get hot, you just smell better LOL!

I will use an amber soap and shampoo and then use the oil in place of lotion and

thats what I meant by 'whats left on my hands I rub into my wet hair'.....blow

dry and from hair to toe you just smell great! In fact, I've gotten to where I

do that with most of my stuff I like to wear. Who needs perfume when I can have

such a soft gentle linger?

evie

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I used my mortar and pestle and crushed some amber, used a wee bit of artisans

alcohol to make sure it was melted and added that to fractionated coconut oil.

Voila'.....amber oil! (you can melt it in the microwave too)

It is DA BOMB........and it keeps bugs off too!

Amber is a scent that me and my daughter LOVED.....she always had a pendant with

a chunk of amber in it. I use it in special soaps but I always have it in the

frac oil. If I want extra emollient, I'll add hydrovance. But that scent stays

all day and when you get hot, you just smell better LOL!

I will use an amber soap and shampoo and then use the oil in place of lotion and

thats what I meant by 'whats left on my hands I rub into my wet hair'.....blow

dry and from hair to toe you just smell great! In fact, I've gotten to where I

do that with most of my stuff I like to wear. Who needs perfume when I can have

such a soft gentle linger?

evie

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> I'm actually the grey-haired,doesn't get along with

> osmanthus lady who suggested the subject. I don't want people

> thinking Andrine has grey hair without cause, LOL.

>

Hee hee! I'm glad we cleared this up, even though it's been funny (at

least for me). I'm getting there with the grey hair - day by day...

And even if I didn't have it, I'd be laughing about that too... So

it's all good!

Oh -- and I've always figured that if teeth that come in at a later

time in life can be called wisdom teeth, then why shouldn't hairs that

come in at a later time in life be called wisdom hairs? So that's

what I've been calling mine for the last few years.

Cheers!

Andrine

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> I'm actually the grey-haired,doesn't get along with

> osmanthus lady who suggested the subject. I don't want people

> thinking Andrine has grey hair without cause, LOL.

>

Hee hee! I'm glad we cleared this up, even though it's been funny (at

least for me). I'm getting there with the grey hair - day by day...

And even if I didn't have it, I'd be laughing about that too... So

it's all good!

Oh -- and I've always figured that if teeth that come in at a later

time in life can be called wisdom teeth, then why shouldn't hairs that

come in at a later time in life be called wisdom hairs? So that's

what I've been calling mine for the last few years.

Cheers!

Andrine

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Hi Saskia!

I was remembering that darker skin holds a scent longer -

but not sure if I was remembering right. I think a scent also

lasts longer in a more humid environment, doesn't evaporate as

fast.

Elise

I'm also fair skinned w/ blue-green eyes and brown hair and I find that the only

perfumes that last any length of time on my skin (whether synth or natural) are

oriental perfumes. I need to reapply the " lighter " perfumes, like citrus,

several times during the day.

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Hi Saskia!

I was remembering that darker skin holds a scent longer -

but not sure if I was remembering right. I think a scent also

lasts longer in a more humid environment, doesn't evaporate as

fast.

Elise

I'm also fair skinned w/ blue-green eyes and brown hair and I find that the only

perfumes that last any length of time on my skin (whether synth or natural) are

oriental perfumes. I need to reapply the " lighter " perfumes, like citrus,

several times during the day.

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Did you see that post from Will on amber this month?

He is an expert I think with his amber essence/resin blends and

varieties:

http://www.edenbotanicals.com/crystallized.html

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>

> I really dont think thats an ethnic thing. What smelled great on my

dids did not smell very good on me. I have the type of system that

mosquitos will attack me THRU my shirt.......and I'll be the only one

they are biting too!

Hi Selkie and group,

Oh... Sorry about that, in college I was an Anthropology and Cultural

Psychology student so I tend to view ethnicity differently than others

and I forget that sometimes in my writing and speaking. While there is

a general ethnic difference, (a matter of pride for our ancestors) I

was mostly meaning to refer to light or dark skin/hair etc. Also I

find a persons eating habits affect how a perfume will smell on them

as well as their own under lying " personal Base note as Mandy called

it, " the Base beneath the Base " . I hope my choice of words did not

offend anyone?

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>

> I really dont think thats an ethnic thing. What smelled great on my

dids did not smell very good on me. I have the type of system that

mosquitos will attack me THRU my shirt.......and I'll be the only one

they are biting too!

Hi Selkie and group,

Oh... Sorry about that, in college I was an Anthropology and Cultural

Psychology student so I tend to view ethnicity differently than others

and I forget that sometimes in my writing and speaking. While there is

a general ethnic difference, (a matter of pride for our ancestors) I

was mostly meaning to refer to light or dark skin/hair etc. Also I

find a persons eating habits affect how a perfume will smell on them

as well as their own under lying " personal Base note as Mandy called

it, " the Base beneath the Base " . I hope my choice of words did not

offend anyone?

[Guest guest]

>

> I really dont think thats an ethnic thing. What smelled great on my

dids did not smell very good on me. I have the type of system that

mosquitos will attack me THRU my shirt.......and I'll be the only one

they are biting too!

Hi Selkie and group,

Oh... Sorry about that, in college I was an Anthropology and Cultural

Psychology student so I tend to view ethnicity differently than others

and I forget that sometimes in my writing and speaking. While there is

a general ethnic difference, (a matter of pride for our ancestors) I

was mostly meaning to refer to light or dark skin/hair etc. Also I

find a persons eating habits affect how a perfume will smell on them

as well as their own under lying " personal Base note as Mandy called

it, " the Base beneath the Base " . I hope my choice of words did not

offend anyone?

[Guest guest]

didn't bother me and I didn' take it that way and that is an interesting thing

to study. I might try that by asking around.

I've wondered about the color of clothing, light or dark affecting that...or,

like I said before, our systems might be more acidic or alkaline. I've tried the

vitamin approach, brewers yeast, garlic etc. didn't help. I've been hiking with

folks and was one of the few who got eaten alive so we must be emitting

something that attracts more biting insects......I'll ask my friend from india.

She eats lots of curry and spice and see if she gets attacked.

I don't think you offended anyone.

My dad never got a bite. I have no clue why. Blue eyed, brown hair. We would go

to the same place and I lived on spray on benedryl and bendryl by

mouth........go figure.

e

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didn't bother me and I didn' take it that way and that is an interesting thing

to study. I might try that by asking around.

I've wondered about the color of clothing, light or dark affecting that...or,

like I said before, our systems might be more acidic or alkaline. I've tried the

vitamin approach, brewers yeast, garlic etc. didn't help. I've been hiking with

folks and was one of the few who got eaten alive so we must be emitting

something that attracts more biting insects......I'll ask my friend from india.

She eats lots of curry and spice and see if she gets attacked.

I don't think you offended anyone.

My dad never got a bite. I have no clue why. Blue eyed, brown hair. We would go

to the same place and I lived on spray on benedryl and bendryl by

mouth........go figure.

e

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didn't bother me and I didn' take it that way and that is an interesting thing

to study. I might try that by asking around.

I've wondered about the color of clothing, light or dark affecting that...or,

like I said before, our systems might be more acidic or alkaline. I've tried the

vitamin approach, brewers yeast, garlic etc. didn't help. I've been hiking with

folks and was one of the few who got eaten alive so we must be emitting

something that attracts more biting insects......I'll ask my friend from india.

She eats lots of curry and spice and see if she gets attacked.

I don't think you offended anyone.

My dad never got a bite. I have no clue why. Blue eyed, brown hair. We would go

to the same place and I lived on spray on benedryl and bendryl by

mouth........go figure.

e

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>

> I've wondered about the color of clothing, light or dark affecting

that...or, like I said before, our systems might be more acidic or

alkaline. I've tried the vitamin approach, brewers yeast, garlic etc.

didn't help. I've been hiking with folks and was one of the few who

got eaten alive so we must be emitting something that attracts more

biting insects......I'll ask my friend from india. She eats lots of

curry and spice and see if she gets attacked.

>

> My dad never got a bite. I have no clue why. Blue eyed, brown hair.

We would go to the same place and I lived on spray on benedryl and

bendryl by mouth........go figure.

Sounds like me. I was the Walking Mosquito Bite when I was a kid.

Seriously, they'd be so close together, they'd sort of become on giant

welt. And I'd swell up terribly. I took whatever the really stinky B

vitamin is, and doused myself with Cutter's, you name it. It worked

great for the people around me but I think that was because I was the

one getting bitten - I must have been the decoy. Thankfully, my EOs

seem to work well now. But I do end up getting pretty sticky from

them, and spraying them in my hair is kind of yucky. Better than

being bitten though...

Cheers!

Andrine