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Do you see a color, place or object in nature

when you smell a perfume, EO, absolute or

Fragrant Plants spontaneously arising.

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I do not see colors. I hear music and picture memories and long-ago

forgotten places. The effect of smell is highly complex on me; I

think of colors as comparatively simplistic. The color wheel is not

useful to me; more often than not a smell reminds me of a color

totally unrelated to what it's supposed to remind me of. Black pepper

is purple? Not in my mind. More like green.

Color wheel helps me as once you realize that each color has an opposite

like on the color wheel then you start to see the different shades as

an after effect from gazing or concentrating on one color.

It is a high contrast psychological retinal aftereffect. This is normal

human process that is most useful, exp. thinking for you

as a labelling issue what color of ink should we use.

Bb

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I guess I'm simplistic then because when I smell EOs & absolutes color

is the first thing that pops into my mind. I'm guessing this may

change with more olfactory training maybe? With perfumes and fragrant

plants, on the other hand, color most often doesn't come into play.

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> From BB :

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> Do you see a color, place or object in nature

> when you smell a perfume, EO, absolute or

> Fragrant Plants spontaneously arising.

> _____

I envision fairly stereotypical colors when smelling foody essences,

such as red with cassia and cinnamon straight out of the bottle. They

make me think of Red Hots! Also with coriander eo I think of a handful

of silver coriander seeds but after its dry down, the head space of

fresh green cilantro leaves.

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On Aug 19, 2008, at 10:04 AM, nyashiasblossomingtree wrote:

> I guess I'm simplistic then because when I smell EOs & absolutes color

> is the first thing that pops into my mind. I'm guessing this may

> change with more olfactory training maybe? With perfumes and fragrant

> plants, on the other hand, color most often doesn't come into play.

With sincere care, I am sorry I implied that people for whom color is

useful and trenchant are themselves simplistic. I merely intended to

point out that I think our olfactory sense is on orders of magnitude

more complex than our sight. The fact that it is thought to be

comparatively base irks me.

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> With sincere care, I am sorry I implied that people for whom color

is useful and trenchant are themselves simplistic. I merely intended

to point out that I think our olfactory sense is on orders of

magnitude more complex than our sight. The fact that it is thought to

be comparatively base irks me.

>

Adam,

I understand what you are saying. No apology necessary.:) In the world

of natural perfumery I am at a stage where simplicity is what I can

relate to. As I learn more I'm sure I'll move beyond focusing on

color. Heck, I'll even try moving beyond it now lol.

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>   From BB :

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> Do you see a color, place or object in nature

> when you smell a perfume, EO, absolute or

> Fragrant Plants spontaneously arising.

> _____

>

I'm pretty stereotypical too. I usually picture what the color of

the plant is or the color of the essence. Sometimes I picture

secondary colors or a range of colors, mostly associations or

symbolic connections.

Rose, geranium, palmarosa, and rosewood are all pink to me.

I think browns when I smell patchouli, vetiver, vanilla, all of the

balsams, cacao, coffee, tonka bean.

Myrhh and labdanum/amber are, well, amber.

Rosemary is grey-green.

Tarragon, basil, perilla, galbanum, lime, spearmint, peppermint,

juniper berry, neroli, and clary sage are all a bright emerald or

grass green.

Tuberose is white but I also feel violet, purple, and indigo when I

smell it: night colors

Jasmine is white too, but I also see cerulean blue

I get white too with orange blossom, but I also see peach,apricot,

coral.

Bergamot is lime green(I dont see lime green with lime!)

Orange, tangerine, mandarin, bitter orange are not suprisingly,

orange.

Lemon, May chang are of course, bright, lemony yellow.

Ylang Ylang, and lemongrass are chartreuse, lemongrass being paler in

tone

Champaka is a golden orange or apricot. I also get

a " crystal " , " sugary " thing with it.

Green tea, tobacco, osmanthus, linden, and oakmoss are a dark, olive

or brownish green

incense, coriander, and sandalwood are sandy, beigelike colors

Cedar is a sort of light, warm brown.

Pine, fir, and spruce are deep, foresty greens

Cassia, allspice, clove, and cinnamon are either bright,scarlety red,

or a reddish brown, like a rust or Indian red.

Nutmeg is a deep, red brown. I guess russet would be the right word.

maybe with some warm, golden, ambery tones.

Ginger is similar to frankincense and sandalwood, but I also get

warm, golden yellows and oranges too.

Chamomile is a golden yellow.

Lavender is of course, lavender, but I also see a bright green and a

silver green especially with the absolute.

Agarwood to me is black. Choya loban and cade as well. Sometimes

patchouli seems black to me too.

Seaweed is blue-green, like a deep teal. Sometimes clary seems like

an aquamarine or a turquoise as well.

Butter is of course, a pale yellow or a creamy white.

Cardamom is grey, but sometimes warmer shades seem to come up.

Frangipani is bright yellow and white, but sometimes I get coral

pinks or pink.

Grapefruit is shades of coral pink, and apricot.

Coconut is white, of course, but sometimes a bright, leaf green or

turquoise comes up.

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> From BB :

>

> Do you see a color, place or object in nature

> when you smell a perfume, EO, absolute or

> Fragrant Plants spontaneously arising.

> _____

>

I'm pretty stereotypical too. I usually picture what the color of

the plant is or the color of the essence. Sometimes I picture

secondary colors or a range of colors, mostly associations or

symbolic connections.

Rose, geranium, palmarosa, and rosewood are all pink to me.

I think browns when I smell patchouli, vetiver, vanilla, all of the

balsams, cacao, coffee, tonka bean.

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Grapefruit is shades of coral pink, and apricot.

Coconut is white, of course, but sometimes a bright, leaf green or

turquoise comes up.

AWESOME!!!

Wasn't someone doing paintings with Essentail Oils mixed in the paint?

Bb

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I do. And why I see a pale violet for ylang ylang beats me. And I think certain

scents should be worn with certain colors.

Example. Royal Secret. I think it only works with white. I met a lady who had

that on and she used the proper amount and she was in white and I noticed her

because it came to my mind that her scent and the color 'worked'.

Christian Dior to me should be minimally used and worn with a wonderful deep

purple.

Patchouli, Amber, other resinous scents with khaki's and earth colors and I

think Amber can be worn in all seasons and would be horrible with red. A nice

white or pastel sundress would work, or a gauzy tunic type 'breezy' outfit in

whites with a little embroidery, perhaps Indian style (India ) or Mexican

style......and then most winter outfits

Scents with a tobacco type scent, nice suit, intellectual male with refined

tastes.......well read.......owns a libray......

Jasmine I think sundresses, summer semi casual to dressy and subtle.

Patchouli.....in my home that is year round ......Pow Wow seasons LOL....

Ylang Ylang/Jasmine definately thin fabrics, classic lined with a bit of ornate

contrast to create a striking and subtle entrance. Mandarin style if you will,

or at least a hint of it and then the colors tourqoise/gold, white satin or silk

, basically most colors with the exception of anything neon, orange or red. No

green.

I dont like perfumes in concentrated areas. I believe in layering a scent. I

like to make my showergel/shampoos in the scent I want to wear for the day. As

soon as i am out of the shower, that scent will then be used in a simple

fractionated coconut oil with some hydrovance, vitamin e for moisturization and

then the residue rubbed on in my hair and blown dry.

I find I dont need a perfume and resins are wonderful in that they last and as

your body heats an even release of the scent is subtle and if you check your

garment the next morning, you will smell it as fresh.

Body butters will have the same effect. Some scents on the market amaze me in

that anyone thinks they are attractive......my mother would take a bottle of

(holding back on my gag reflexes) CHARLIE and just drown herself in it and I

made her put her window down. How did that one pass the market test???????

oakmosses, sweet 'male' scents with hint of spice wonderful in winter and in

fact year round. I don't like the newer mens scents.

evie

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AWESOME!!!

Wasn't someone doing paintings with Essentail Oils mixed in the paint?

Bb

Thanks!

I dont' remember hearing about that(but its a darn good idea, but wonder if it

would affect the qualities of the paint-I used to do paintings with oil and

acrylic).   I remember I had Cunningham's  " The Magic Of Incense Oils and

Brews(which incidentlally was the book that started me on my perfumery journey)

and he had recipes for magickal inks, some of which you made from

botanicals(mostly burnt ones) and some recipes in which you added essential oils

to ready-made inks.  I was always fascinated by the concept of scented inks, and

on the tail of our recent thread about essences and color, I thought matching

the oils with the colors of inks would be fun.

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