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Sounds good Joyce. Thank you

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

Well, when I get back tomorrow, I will write up, on how to access the class on Oprah.com and how to watch the new class. :-) Blessings, Joy

Re: [ ] Oprah's class> > > I think there was a lot of people that was getting> upset at this thing that is to help you not get

> upset!!!!> --- Antoinette Hummel> <antoinette.hummel@...>> wrote:> > > Right. It may be that they need to work out the

> bugs> > yet> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, atie vande> plasse> > <auastar642@...>

> > wrote:> > > > > than I am the lucky one, can hear and see,> but> > the sound is not good,> > > the words seem to stop in their mouths and it> is> > difficult to follow

> > >> > >> > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Antoinette> Hummel> > <> > > antoinette.hummel@...> wrote:

> > >> > > > Yes, I will have to figure out how to do> it> > > >> > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM, michele> horton> > <epifany97523@...>

> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > > my computer was trying to view it too,> it> > was taking so long, I> > > > > didnt see anything either, but we can

> watch it> > or download it and that is> > > > > good.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > *Antoinette Hummel> > <antoinette.hummel@...>* wrote:

> > > > >> > > > > Me too. I even left and tried to come> back,> > but it didn't work.> > > > >> > > > > She said something about getting the

> > transcript as well.> > > > >> > > > > I am a bit disappointed I couldn't see and> > hear it all> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Joyce

> Hudson> > <bjoyful@...>> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and

> at> > one point I couldn't hear> > > > > > or see the class. However, it will be> on> > Oprah.com<http://oprah.com/>tomorrow.

> > > > > >> > > > > > I did check out the problem site. And> did> > what they suggested, but> > > > > > it didn't help. I will just watch it

> > tomorrow on Oprah.com<http://oprah.com/>.> > > > > > You can even download it. :-)> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love, Joy> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------------------------> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> know-it-all> > with Mobile. Try> > > > > it> >> >now.<http://us.rd./evt=51733/*http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ>

> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> mental> prejudices and stereotypes of others. > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> manipulate> me or deceive me. > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> love.

> Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> freedom.> > > >__________________________________________________________> Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

>http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ> > > > > >

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I guess everyone wanted to be the head of the clan in

old times.

but we are getting worst.Now,the leader does not have

the peoples best interest in mind.

I have been aware of this and WE try to live a humble

,simple life here.I do have a hard time with the

humble part,my nature is a outgoing one,but I still

try.

I do see in the world that greed is getting bigger all

the time,it saddens me.We try to remember out

Spirituality ,and this is what helps.

your story of Eve,well,there are story's like this in

all the peoples of the world,so true or not,there is a

lesson we need to learn.Women are the peace keepers,we

need to listen to them,but not Hillery!!!

Marty

--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> Marty, from all of my studying, man has been

> controlled by the ego. The ego was given to us for

> our survival. However, we were supposed to learn to

> control our egos; to train them to be objective;

> instead of being controlled by fear, anger, greed or

> whatever. Our down fall is that most have not

> learned to control their egos, let a lone train

> them. Man has had this problem since the " Fall of

> Eve " , if you want to believe in that biblical story.

> I think that is more to it. Yes, I have read

> several theories, but who is to say what is true.

>

> The problem we have now, is our morals are getting

> out of control, due to electronics. Advertising

> actually is designed to work on our egos. What

> better way to control masses of people, than to

> focus their attentions away from the important areas

> (such as nutrition, true healing, honest

> politicians/governments and more) and focus them on

> what is the newest electronic, Sex, what the '

> have, ect.

>

> I think man has always had this problem, but there

> weren't as many people until now. Centuries ago,

> religions actually had more control over the people

> than they do now. Also, most of the people were

> ignorant and poor, and the elite kept them that way.

> The poor had to work harder to survive, now we

> don't.

>

> Just my thoughts, from studying and thinking. Lol!

> Love, Joy

> Re: [ ] Oprah's class

> >

> >

> > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was

> missing

> > more than I was watching and did not know what

> > they

> > were talking about.

> > Sandy listened to a little of the first part

> and

> > said

> > it is what I always teach!!

> > Marty

> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one

> point

> > I

> > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it

> > will be

> > > on Oprah.com tomorrow.

> > >

> > > I did check out the problem site. And did

> what

> > they

> > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just

> > watch it

> > > tomorrow on Oprah.com. You can even

> download

> > it.

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > Love, Joy

> >

> >

> > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> > mental

> > prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> > manipulate

> > me or deceive me.

> > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> > love.

> > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> > freedom.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

> > Never miss a thing. Make your home

> page.

> > http://www./r/hs

> >

> >

> >

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maybe go back before the kings,maybe to the time when

we roamed around just to survive.

I think kings came into existence to

rule/control/=greed..

--- Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...>

wrote:

> I don't know about that part. All the kings of the

> different countries

> wanted more and were will to kill others to get it.

>

> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Marty Cline

> <stompingelk@...> wrote:

>

> > I do not agree with this,Joy,

> > I think WE have went from being one with

> all,meaning

> > the flowers and Birds,to regressing to this state

> of

> > ME or the I state.

> > Man was not greedy a long time ago,this is

> something

> > we have evolved into,with every one telling you

> ,that

> > you should be driving a B M W and live in a big

> house.

> > We are going backwards!!!

> > The Birds were made By Creator and were made

> > Good,just as we were,but we went bad,we got

> greed!!

> > Just my thoughts.

> >

> > Marty

> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > Yes, what I heard, I already know, but like

> Oprah

> > > said in the beginning, " Read 50 pages before

> you

> > > put the book down. " So I will watch all of the

> > > classes and read the book, to make sure I don't

> miss

> > > out on learning something new.

> > >

> > > In fact, I already did learn something new! Lol!

> I

> > > learned that the flowers and birds have already

> > > evolved to a higher vibration, above the other

> > > animals and plants. That right there, helped me

> to

> > > understand why I am drawn to them! Remember all

> of

> > > my flower gardens. I have 3 bird feeders and

> plan

> > > on buying a 4th, to help me feed more birds.

> It's

> > > why I take pictures of my flowers and the birds.

> > > It's why I am drawn to them so much. :-)

> > >

> > > So, I will still take the class and read the

> book.

> > > To see what else I can learn. I know they

> started

> > > out slow, for people who this is new to. I hope

> all

> > > that have signed up, will continue to, also. Can

> > > you imagine how much higher the vibrations of

> Mother

> > > Earth will be, if everyone continues to take the

> > > class!?! I know, I do not know it all, and I

> have

> > > been studying for over 30 years. My Spirit

> Sister,

> > > who has been studying even longer (about 45

> years

> > > and who is a minister), is going to stay with

> the

> > > class, even though she had the same problem most

> of

> > > us did.

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing Everyone! Blessings and Love,

> > > Joy

> > > Re: [ ] Oprah's class

> > >

> > >

> > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was

> missing

> > > more than I was watching and did not know what

> > > they

> > > were talking about.

> > > Sandy listened to a little of the first part and

> > > said

> > > it is what I always teach!!

> > > Marty

> > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one

> point

> > > I

> > > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it

> > > will be

> > > > on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/> tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > I did check out the problem site. And did what

> > > they

> > > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just

> > > watch it

> > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/>. You

> can even download

> > > it.

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > Love, Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> > > mental

> > > prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> > > manipulate

> > > me or deceive me.

> > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> > > love.

> > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> > > freedom.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

__________________________________________________________

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > > http://www./r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

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JOY,

You have helped me so many times with this computer,I

do not know what I would do without you.

thank you so much,

and says HI!!!

Marty

--- Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...>

wrote:

> Sounds good Joyce. Thank you

> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Joyce Hudson

> <bjoyful@...> wrote:

>

> > Well, when I get back tomorrow, I will write

> up, on how to access the

> > class on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/> and how to

> watch the new class.

> > :-) Blessings, Joy

> >

> > Re: [ ] Oprah's class

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I think there was a lot of people that was

> getting

> > > > upset at this thing that is to help you not

> get

> > > > upset!!!!

> > > > --- Antoinette Hummel

> > > > <antoinette.hummel@...

> <antoinette.hummel%40gmail.com>>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Right. It may be that they need to work out

> the

> > > > bugs

> > > > > yet

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:55 PM, atie vande

> > > > plasse

> > > > > <auastar642@...

> <auastar642%40gmail.com>>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > than I am the lucky one, can hear and see,

> > > > but

> > > > > the sound is not good,

> > > > > > the words seem to stop in their mouths and

> it

> > > > is

> > > > > difficult to follow

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Antoinette

> > > > Hummel

> > > > > <

> > > > > > antoinette.hummel@...

> <antoinette.hummel%40gmail.com>>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Yes, I will have to figure out how to do

> > > > it

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:41 PM, michele

> > > > horton

> > > > > <epifany97523@...

> <epifany97523%40>>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my computer was trying to view it too,

> > > > it

> > > > > was taking so long, I

> > > > > > > > didnt see anything either, but we can

> > > > watch it

> > > > > or download it and that is

> > > > > > > > good.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > *Antoinette Hummel

> > > > > <antoinette.hummel@...

> <antoinette.hummel%40gmail.com>>*

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Me too. I even left and tried to come

> > > > back,

> > > > > but it didn't work.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > She said something about getting the

> > > > > transcript as well.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am a bit disappointed I couldn't see

> and

> > > > > hear it all

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 8:34 PM, Joyce

> > > > Hudson

> > > > > <bjoyful@... <bjoyful%40iglou.com>>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and

> > > > at

> > > > > one point I couldn't hear

> > > > > > > > > or see the class. However, it will

> be

> > > > on

> > > > > Oprah.com

> <http://oprah.com/><http://oprah.com/>tomorrow.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I did check out the problem site.

> And

> > > > did

> > > > > what they suggested, but

> > > > > > > > > it didn't help. I will just watch it

> > > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com

> <http://oprah.com/><http://oprah.com/>.

> > > > > > > > > You can even download it. :-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Love, Joy

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ------------------------------

> > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > > > know-it-all

> > > > > with Mobile. Try

> > > > > > > > it

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > now.<

> > >

>

http://us.rd./evt=51733/*http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDy\

pao8Wcj9tAcJ

> > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> > > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> > > > mental

> > > > prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> > > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> > > > manipulate

> > > > me or deceive me.

> > > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> > > > love.

> > > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> > > > freedom.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

>

__________________________________________________________

> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > > > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

> > > >

>

=== message truncated ===

Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental

prejudices and stereotypes of others.

I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulate

me or deceive me.

I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.

Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

freedom.

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

http://www./r/hs

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Men and women are like two wings of a bird, If they are not equal, the bird won't fly

On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

I guess everyone wanted to be the head of the clan inold times.but we are getting worst.Now,the leader does not havethe peoples best interest in mind.I have been aware of this and WE try to live a humble

,simple life here.I do have a hard time with thehumble part,my nature is a outgoing one,but I stilltry.I do see in the world that greed is getting bigger allthe time,it saddens me.We try to remember out

Spirituality ,and this is what helps.your story of Eve,well,there are story's like this inall the peoples of the world,so true or not,there is alesson we need to learn.Women are the peace keepers,weneed to listen to them,but not Hillery!!!

Marty--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:> Marty, from all of my studying, man has been> controlled by the ego. The ego was given to us for

> our survival. However, we were supposed to learn to> control our egos; to train them to be objective;> instead of being controlled by fear, anger, greed or> whatever. Our down fall is that most have not

> learned to control their egos, let a lone train> them. Man has had this problem since the " Fall of> Eve " , if you want to believe in that biblical story.> I think that is more to it. Yes, I have read

> several theories, but who is to say what is true.> > The problem we have now, is our morals are getting> out of control, due to electronics. Advertising> actually is designed to work on our egos. What

> better way to control masses of people, than to> focus their attentions away from the important areas> (such as nutrition, true healing, honest> politicians/governments and more) and focus them on

> what is the newest electronic, Sex, what the '> have, ect.> > I think man has always had this problem, but there> weren't as many people until now. Centuries ago,> religions actually had more control over the people

> than they do now. Also, most of the people were> ignorant and poor, and the elite kept them that way.> The poor had to work harder to survive, now we> don't.> > Just my thoughts, from studying and thinking. Lol!

> Love, Joy> Re: [ ] Oprah's class> > > > > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was> missing> > more than I was watching and did not know what

> > they> > were talking about.> > Sandy listened to a little of the first part> and> > said> > it is what I always teach!!> > Marty> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one> point> > I> > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it> > will be> > > on Oprah.com tomorrow.

> > > > > > I did check out the problem site. And did> what> > they> > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just> > watch it> > > tomorrow on Oprah.com. You can even

> download> > it. > > > :-)> > > > > > Love, Joy> > > > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> > mental> > prejudices and stereotypes of others. > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > manipulate> > me or deceive me. > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> > love. > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > freedom.> > > > > > > >> >__________________________________________________________

> > Never miss a thing. Make your home> page. > > http://www./r/hs> > > > > >

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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

maybe go back before the kings,maybe to the time whenwe roamed around just to survive.I think kings came into existence torule/control/=greed.. --- Antoinette Hummel <antoinette.hummel@...>wrote:

> I don't know about that part. All the kings of the> different countries> wanted more and were will to kill others to get it.> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Marty Cline

> <stompingelk@...> wrote:> > > I do not agree with this,Joy,> > I think WE have went from being one with> all,meaning

> > the flowers and Birds,to regressing to this state> of> > ME or the I state.> > Man was not greedy a long time ago,this is> something> > we have evolved into,with every one telling you

> ,that> > you should be driving a B M W and live in a big> house.> > We are going backwards!!!> > The Birds were made By Creator and were made> > Good,just as we were,but we went bad,we got

> greed!!> > Just my thoughts.> >> > Marty> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:> >> > > Yes, what I heard, I already know, but like> Oprah> > > said in the beginning, " Read 50 pages before

> you> > > put the book down. " So I will watch all of the> > > classes and read the book, to make sure I don't> miss> > > out on learning something new.> > >

> > > In fact, I already did learn something new! Lol!> I> > > learned that the flowers and birds have already> > > evolved to a higher vibration, above the other> > > animals and plants. That right there, helped me

> to> > > understand why I am drawn to them! Remember all> of> > > my flower gardens. I have 3 bird feeders and> plan> > > on buying a 4th, to help me feed more birds.

> It's> > > why I take pictures of my flowers and the birds.> > > It's why I am drawn to them so much. :-)> > >> > > So, I will still take the class and read the

> book.> > > To see what else I can learn. I know they> started> > > out slow, for people who this is new to. I hope> all> > > that have signed up, will continue to, also. Can

> > > you imagine how much higher the vibrations of> Mother> > > Earth will be, if everyone continues to take the> > > class!?! I know, I do not know it all, and I> have

> > > been studying for over 30 years. My Spirit> Sister,> > > who has been studying even longer (about 45> years> > > and who is a minister), is going to stay with> the

> > > class, even though she had the same problem most> of> > > us did.> > >> > > Thanks for sharing Everyone! Blessings and Love,> > > Joy> > > Re: [ ] Oprah's class> > >> > >> > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was> missing> > > more than I was watching and did not know what

> > > they> > > were talking about.> > > Sandy listened to a little of the first part and> > > said> > > it is what I always teach!!> > > Marty

> > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:> > >> > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one> point> > > I> > > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it

> > > will be> > > > on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/> tomorrow. > > > >> > > > I did check out the problem site. And did what> > > they> > > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just> > > watch it

> > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/>. You

> can even download> > > it.> > > > :-)> > > >> > > > Love, Joy> > >> > >> > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> > > mental> > > prejudices and stereotypes of others.> > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > > manipulate

> > > me or deceive me.> > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> > > love.> > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > > freedom.> > >

> > >> > >> > >> >>__________________________________________________________> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.> > > http://www./r/hs

> > >> > >> > >

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Ah, but most Kings didn't have the good will of the people in mind, either. History shows that, and not the history books from school either. Those were written by the conquerors. As I said the reason for the problems now, are billions of people, electronics (communication between countries, media telling a lot but not always the truth, and too many sheep). Man really isn't getting worse, it just seems that way. There are more evolved people now, than in the past, because there are more people. However, the sheep don't want to believe the truth as they are wrapped up in their own lives. And remember intent. What we focus upon, we create.

Love, Joy

Re: [ ] Oprah's class> > > > > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was> missing> > more than I was watching and did not know what> > they> > were talking about.> > Sandy listened to a little of the first part> and> > said> > it is what I always teach!!> > Marty> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:> > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one> point> > I> > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it> > will be> > > on Oprah.com tomorrow.> > > > > > I did check out the problem site. And did> what> > they> > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just> > watch it> > > tomorrow on Oprah.com. You can even> download> > it. > > > :-)> > > > > > Love, Joy> > > > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> > mental> > prejudices and stereotypes of others. > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > manipulate> > me or deceive me. > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> > love. > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > freedom.> > > > > > > >> >____________________________________________________________________________________> > Never miss a thing. Make your home> page. > > http://www./r/hs> > > > > >

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Antoinette, I love that phrase!!!!!!! It's a keeper. Did you originate it? Love, Joy

Re: [ ] Oprah's class> > > > > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was> missing> > more than I was watching and did not know what> > they> > were talking about.> > Sandy listened to a little of the first part> and> > said> > it is what I always teach!!> > Marty> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:> > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one> point> > I> > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it> > will be> > > on Oprah.com tomorrow.> > > > > > I did check out the problem site. And did> what> > they> > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just> > watch it> > > tomorrow on Oprah.com. You can even> download> > it. > > > :-)> > > > > > Love, Joy> > > > > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright. > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> > mental> > prejudices and stereotypes of others. > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > manipulate> > me or deceive me. > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> > love. > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > freedom.> > > > > > > >> >__________________________________________________________> > Never miss a thing. Make your home> page. > > http://www./r/hs> > > > > >

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I don't want to go back then. Women were basically property. They had to fight to survive, which meant the weather, wild animals, and because food was scarce and difficult to come by, man. Nope, don't think I want to go back.

I envision a planet, where All helps All. They are in tune with Mother Earth, plants, animals, each other, and Great Spirit. All know about nutrition and how to care for All. They are developing their psychic abilities. They cultivate the arts and their minds. They live in harmony. That's where I want to go, if I don't ascend to a higher level, where physical does not exist. :-)

I don't dwell on the past, except to analyze my actions. I try to be positive.

That's all. Love, Joy

Re: [ ] Oprah's class> > >> > >> > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was> missing> > > more than I was watching and did not know what> > > they> > > were talking about.> > > Sandy listened to a little of the first part and> > > said> > > it is what I always teach!!> > > Marty> > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:> > >> > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one> point> > > I> > > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it> > > will be> > > > on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/> tomorrow. > > > >> > > > I did check out the problem site. And did what> > > they> > > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just> > > watch it> > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/>. You

> can even download> > > it.> > > > :-)> > > >> > > > Love, Joy> > >> > >> > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.> > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above> > > mental> > > prejudices and stereotypes of others.> > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can> > > manipulate> > > me or deceive me.> > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and> > > love.> > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual> > > freedom.> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>__________________________________________________________> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.> > > http://www./r/hs> > >> > >> > >

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They say the average Native person,before the whites

came over,had to work about 4 hours a day,this would

be work like FISHING,HUNTING,.

For the women,it would be work in the garden and

cooking and gathering Herb's.which they did together

alot and it was not rushed,just a nice walk through

the woods with some other lady friends.

That does not sound to bad to me!!

Marty

--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> I don't want to go back then. Women were basically

> property. They had to fight to survive, which meant

> the weather, wild animals, and because food was

> scarce and difficult to come by, man. Nope, don't

> think I want to go back.

>

> I envision a planet, where All helps All. They are

> in tune with Mother Earth, plants, animals, each

> other, and Great Spirit. All know about nutrition

> and how to care for All. They are developing their

> psychic abilities. They cultivate the arts and

> their minds. They live in harmony. That's where I

> want to go, if I don't ascend to a higher level,

> where physical does not exist. :-)

>

> I don't dwell on the past, except to analyze my

> actions. I try to be positive.

>

> That's all. Love, Joy

> Re: [ ] Oprah's

> class

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was

> > missing

> > > > more than I was watching and did not know

> what

> > > > they

> > > > were talking about.

> > > > Sandy listened to a little of the first

> part and

> > > > said

> > > > it is what I always teach!!

> > > > Marty

> > > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

>

> > <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at

> one

> > point

> > > > I

> > > > > couldn't hear or see the class. However,

> it

> > > > will be

>

> > > > > on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/>

> tomorrow.

>

> > > > >

> > > > > I did check out the problem site. And

> did what

> > > > they

> > > > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will

> just

> > > > watch it

>

> > > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com

> <http://oprah.com/>. You

>

> > can even download

> > > > it.

> > > > > :-)

>

=== message truncated ===

Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental

prejudices and stereotypes of others.

I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulate

me or deceive me.

I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.

Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

freedom.

________________________________________________________________________________\

____

Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

http://www./r/hs

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Yes, the men didn't have to work so hard. Hunting and war were their areas. They hunted with spears and bows and arrows. It took many men to bring down a large animal, like a buffalo or stag. Heaven help them if they got hurt.

The women had to raise the crops, using sticks and their hands to toil and weed the earth. They had to clean the animals that were hunted and skin them. They had to grind the corn with rocks. They had to chew the leather to make the leather soft for the clothes, it's why the women's teeth got ground down to nubs. They had to cook, watch the children, give child birth, and take care of their mates.

To replenish their people and get new blood, they went on raiding parties, unless they had tribes near by, that they were friendly to and intermarriage could take place. Yes, I have read several books on the ways of the Indians. I have felt drawn to them from childhood. One of my past lives, that I remember, was a native maiden.

Then there were the Vikings. Studied them too. Lol!

Most of my life I was shy, but I was an avid reader from the time I could read. Got into plenty of trouble too, for reading way into the morning hours with a flashlight, from ten years old on. I got to go to the library once a week. I would bring home as many books as they would let me. There was a limit but I can't remember it now.

Love, Joy

Re: [ ] Oprah's> class> > > >> > > >> > > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was> > missing> > > > more than I was watching and did not know> what> > > > they> > > > were talking about.> > > > Sandy listened to a little of the first> part and> > > > said> > > > it is what I always teach!!> > > > Marty> > > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> > > <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:> > > >> > > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at> one> > point> > > > I> > > > > couldn't hear or see the class. However,> it> > > > will be> > > > > > on Oprah.com <http://oprah.com/>> tomorrow. > > > > > >> > > > > I did check out the problem site. And> did what> > > > they> > > > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will> just> > > > watch it> > > > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com> <http://oprah.com/>. You > > > can even download> > > > it.> > > > > :-)> === message truncated ===Spiritual freedom is my birthright. I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mentalprejudices and stereotypes of others. I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulateme or deceive me. I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love. Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritualfreedom. ____________________________________________________________________________________Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs

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What happened is we lost our 12 strands DNA connection and could no longer reach Source.on, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Marty Cline <stompingelk@...> wrote:

I do not agree with this,Joy,

I think WE have went from being one with all,meaning

the flowers and Birds,to regressing to this state of

ME or the I state.

Man was not greedy a long time ago,this is something

we have evolved into,with every one telling you ,that

you should be driving a B M W and live in a big house.

We are going backwards!!!

The Birds were made By Creator and were made

Good,just as we were,but we went bad,we got greed!!

Just my thoughts.

Marty

--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> Yes, what I heard, I already know, but like Oprah

> said in the beginning, " Read 50 pages before you

> put the book down. " So I will watch all of the

> classes and read the book, to make sure I don't miss

> out on learning something new.

>

> In fact, I already did learn something new! Lol! I

> learned that the flowers and birds have already

> evolved to a higher vibration, above the other

> animals and plants. That right there, helped me to

> understand why I am drawn to them! Remember all of

> my flower gardens. I have 3 bird feeders and plan

> on buying a 4th, to help me feed more birds. It's

> why I take pictures of my flowers and the birds.

> It's why I am drawn to them so much. :-)

>

> So, I will still take the class and read the book.

> To see what else I can learn. I know they started

> out slow, for people who this is new to. I hope all

> that have signed up, will continue to, also. Can

> you imagine how much higher the vibrations of Mother

> Earth will be, if everyone continues to take the

> class!?! I know, I do not know it all, and I have

> been studying for over 30 years. My Spirit Sister,

> who has been studying even longer (about 45 years

> and who is a minister), is going to stay with the

> class, even though she had the same problem most of

> us did.

>

> Thanks for sharing Everyone! Blessings and Love,

> Joy

> Re: [ ] Oprah's class

>

>

> so did mine and I just turned it off,I was missing

> more than I was watching and did not know what

> they

> were talking about.

> Sandy listened to a little of the first part and

> said

> it is what I always teach!!

> Marty

> --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

>

> > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one point

> I

> > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it

> will be

> > on Oprah.com tomorrow.

> >

> > I did check out the problem site. And did what

> they

> > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just

> watch it

> > tomorrow on Oprah.com. You can even download

> it.

> > :-)

> >

> > Love, Joy

>

>

> Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> mental

> prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> manipulate

> me or deceive me.

> I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> love.

> Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> freedom.

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________________

> Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> http://www./r/hs

>

>

>

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this is what does,she reads under her blankets

at night!!!

Most tribes had a comunity garden and the work was

shared,still it was hard but not that many hours a

day,about 4-5.

Marty

--- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...> wrote:

> Yes, the men didn't have to work so hard. Hunting

> and war were their areas. They hunted with spears

> and bows and arrows. It took many men to bring down

> a large animal, like a buffalo or stag. Heaven help

> them if they got hurt.

>

> The women had to raise the crops, using sticks and

> their hands to toil and weed the earth. They had to

> clean the animals that were hunted and skin them.

> They had to grind the corn with rocks. They had to

> chew the leather to make the leather soft for the

> clothes, it's why the women's teeth got ground down

> to nubs. They had to cook, watch the children, give

> child birth, and take care of their mates.

>

> To replenish their people and get new blood, they

> went on raiding parties, unless they had tribes near

> by, that they were friendly to and intermarriage

> could take place. Yes, I have read several books on

> the ways of the Indians. I have felt drawn to them

> from childhood. One of my past lives, that I

> remember, was a native maiden.

>

> Then there were the Vikings. Studied them too.

> Lol!

>

> Most of my life I was shy, but I was an avid reader

> from the time I could read. Got into plenty of

> trouble too, for reading way into the morning hours

> with a flashlight, from ten years old on. I got to

> go to the library once a week. I would bring home

> as many books as they would let me. There was a

> limit but I can't remember it now.

>

> Love, Joy

>

>

> Re: [ ] Oprah's class

> >

> >

> > Maybe

> >

> >

> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Marty Cline

> > <stompingelk@...> wrote:

> >

> > maybe go back before the kings,maybe to the

> time

> > when

> > we roamed around just to survive.

> > I think kings came into existence to

> > rule/control/=greed..

> >

> >

> > --- Antoinette Hummel

> > <antoinette.hummel@...>

> > wrote:

> >

> >

> > > I don't know about that part. All the

> kings of

> > the

> > > different countries

> > > wanted more and were will to kill others

> to

> > get it.

> > >

> > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Marty

> Cline

> > > <stompingelk@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > I do not agree with this,Joy,

> > > > I think WE have went from being one with

> > > all,meaning

> > > > the flowers and Birds,to regressing to

> this

> > state

> > > of

> > > > ME or the I state.

> > > > Man was not greedy a long time ago,this

> is

> > > something

> > > > we have evolved into,with every one

> telling

> > you

> > > ,that

> > > > you should be driving a B M W and live

> in a

> > big

> > > house.

> > > > We are going backwards!!!

> > > > The Birds were made By Creator and were

> made

> > > > Good,just as we were,but we went bad,we

> got

> > > greed!!

> > > > Just my thoughts.

> > > >

> > > > Marty

> > > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> >

> > > <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Yes, what I heard, I already know, but

> > like

> > > Oprah

> > > > > said in the beginning, " Read 50 pages

> > before

> > > you

> > > > > put the book down. " So I will watch

> all of

> > the

> > > > > classes and read the book, to make

> sure I

> > don't

> > > miss

> > > > > out on learning something new.

> > > > >

> > > > > In fact, I already did learn something

> > new! Lol!

> > > I

> > > > > learned that the flowers and birds

> have

> > already

> > > > > evolved to a higher vibration, above

> the

> > other

> > > > > animals and plants. That right there,

> > helped me

> > > to

> > > > > understand why I am drawn to them!

> > Remember all

> > > of

> > > > > my flower gardens. I have 3 bird

> feeders

> > and

> > > plan

> > > > > on buying a 4th, to help me feed more

> > birds.

> > > It's

> > > > > why I take pictures of my flowers and

> the

> > birds.

> > > > > It's why I am drawn to them so much.

> :-)

> > > > >

> > > > > So, I will still take the class and

> read

> > the

>

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I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above mental

prejudices and stereotypes of others.

I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can manipulate

me or deceive me.

I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and love.

Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

freedom.

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JOY,

We are seeing things differently,we have known each

other for a while and you know I am a Spiritual

person,I have not lost my conection to Creator,I do

not know about the rest of the people,it does seem

this way.BUT,it is still there,we only need to seek it

out!.

Marty

--- atie vande plasse <auastar642@...> wrote:

> What happened is we lost our 12 strands DNA

> connection and could no longer

> reach Source.

>

>

> on, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Marty Cline

> <stompingelk@...> wrote:

>

> > I do not agree with this,Joy,

> > I think WE have went from being one with

> all,meaning

> > the flowers and Birds,to regressing to this state

> of

> > ME or the I state.

> > Man was not greedy a long time ago,this is

> something

> > we have evolved into,with every one telling you

> ,that

> > you should be driving a B M W and live in a big

> house.

> > We are going backwards!!!

> > The Birds were made By Creator and were made

> > Good,just as we were,but we went bad,we got

> greed!!

> > Just my thoughts.

> >

> > Marty

> > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:

> >

> > > Yes, what I heard, I already know, but like

> Oprah

> > > said in the beginning, " Read 50 pages before

> you

> > > put the book down. " So I will watch all of the

> > > classes and read the book, to make sure I don't

> miss

> > > out on learning something new.

> > >

> > > In fact, I already did learn something new! Lol!

> I

> > > learned that the flowers and birds have already

> > > evolved to a higher vibration, above the other

> > > animals and plants. That right there, helped me

> to

> > > understand why I am drawn to them! Remember all

> of

> > > my flower gardens. I have 3 bird feeders and

> plan

> > > on buying a 4th, to help me feed more birds.

> It's

> > > why I take pictures of my flowers and the birds.

> > > It's why I am drawn to them so much. :-)

> > >

> > > So, I will still take the class and read the

> book.

> > > To see what else I can learn. I know they

> started

> > > out slow, for people who this is new to. I hope

> all

> > > that have signed up, will continue to, also. Can

> > > you imagine how much higher the vibrations of

> Mother

> > > Earth will be, if everyone continues to take the

> > > class!?! I know, I do not know it all, and I

> have

> > > been studying for over 30 years. My Spirit

> Sister,

> > > who has been studying even longer (about 45

> years

> > > and who is a minister), is going to stay with

> the

> > > class, even though she had the same problem most

> of

> > > us did.

> > >

> > > Thanks for sharing Everyone! Blessings and Love,

> > > Joy

> > > Re: [ ] Oprah's class

> > >

> > >

> > > so did mine and I just turned it off,I was

> missing

> > > more than I was watching and did not know what

> > > they

> > > were talking about.

> > > Sandy listened to a little of the first part and

> > > said

> > > it is what I always teach!!

> > > Marty

> > > --- Joyce Hudson <bjoyful@...

> <bjoyful%40iglou.com>> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Mine media viewer kept stopping and at one

> point

> > > I

> > > > couldn't hear or see the class. However, it

> > > will be

> > > > on Oprah.com tomorrow.

> > > >

> > > > I did check out the problem site. And did what

> > > they

> > > > suggested, but it didn't help. I will just

> > > watch it

> > > > tomorrow on Oprah.com. You can even download

> > > it.

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > Love, Joy

> > >

> > >

> > > Spiritual freedom is my birthright.

> > > I am a free thinker. I am able to rise above

> > > mental

> > > prejudices and stereotypes of others.

> > > I am a free thinker. Nobody and nothing can

> > > manipulate

> > > me or deceive me.

> > > I am a free thinker. I freely choose truth and

> > > love.

> > > Today, I embrace a greater degree of spiritual

> > > freedom.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

__________________________________________________________

> > > Never miss a thing. Make your home page.

> > > http://www./r/hs

> > >

> > >

> > >

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