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I think I was lucky I just bought when I did too, wow!

Shaye

Re: Patchouli

Yup. The price has risen dramatically. I bought double my normal amt. just

before prices went up; not because I had even an inkling, but just because,

and I was lucky! I wonder how long it will last.

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Anyone tried to buy any Patchouli lately? Bramble Berry may not be carrying

it anymore due to price.

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Hi Cindi,

Yes, I just contacted Rovenea and asked if I could still get in on the

pre-buy. I can pick up because she lives near me so I save on shipping.

Jeanine

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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:16 AM

Subject: Re:Patchouli

Hi Jeannie,and group, I just read about a pre buy on Patchouli this week,

very reasonable prices, I'll find it and send it along.

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Jeanine

No, I was referring to F/O they have (not essential oil). I thought you

said you would settle for an f/o but I may be mistaken.

Patchouli

Found some fo at Soapcrafters. No one else has any. Lebermuth does but

it is very pricey and I'm not willing to spend that much at this time.

I have no problem using fragrance oils in my soaps.

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Susie check Jan. 3rd posts to the group. 33327. That should give you the

info.

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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:43 PM

Subject: patchouli

Hello! Can someone post the patchouli sale from Rowena , I must have

deleted it.Thanks, Susie

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ok thanks Jeanine!

Jeanine Van Voorhees <jlv40@...> wrote: Susie check Jan. 3rd

posts to the group. 33327. That should give you the

info.

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Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:43 PM

Subject: patchouli

Hello! Can someone post the patchouli sale from Rowena , I must have

deleted it.Thanks, Susie

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http://www.essortment.com/all/patchoulioil_rsap.htm Patchouli is a bush with furry leaves and purplish white flowers that are known to quickly drain the nutrients from the soil in which it grows. It can grow up to three and half feet tall and it has large fragrant leaves. Patchouli is sought after for it antiseptic, deodorant, and as a tonic for the nervous system. It can be found in India, the Philippines, China, Malaysia, and Paraguay. Patchouli’s essential oil is extracted by steam distillation from its leaves. It is used for its antidepressant, anti-inflammatory, antiseptic, antiviral and sedative properties. This essential oil is best used when aged and it has a spicy aroma. Patchouli is

often blended with other fine essential oils like bergamot, Clary sage, ginger, lavender and vetiver. Patchouli has been used throughout the centuries and in different cultures. The word Patchouli originated in Hindustan. It has been used in many

cultures to prevent the spread of diseases and infections. With it high quality of anti-viral properties it has been used to diminish nausea, headaches, colds, vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain. Patchouli was introduce to the British culture in the 1820’s here it become a favorite with midwifes for it’s cleansing abilities. In the 1960’s patchouli became in great demand again for use as a body perfume. In today’s popular aromatherapy it is used to stimulate the appetite, for diarrhea, and it’s balancing effect on the endocrine system. It is great for the skin it reduces inflammations such as acne, eczema, athlete’s foot, fungal infections and dandruff. Patchouli is also good for the emotions, it has an effect of

balancing upset emotions and calming the nerves from an upset situation. It helps you remain in control of your emotions instead of emotions controlling you. It is very useful in controlling depression; anxiety and all stress related emotions. There is a caution when using Patchouli, do not use in large amounts

due to it is a powerful sedative. http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/p/patcho15.html Patchouli Botanical: Pogostemon patchouli (PILL.) Family: N.O. Labiatae Description Constituents Medicinal Action and Uses Other Species and Adultertions ---Synonym---Pucha-pat. ---Part Used---The herb, yielding a volatile oil by distillation. ---Habitat---East and West Indies and Paraguay.

---Description---This fragrant herb, with soft, opposite, egg-shaped leaves and square stems, grows from 2 to 3 feet in height, giving out the peculiar, characteristic odour of patchouli when rubbed. Its whitish flowers, tinged with purple, grow in both axillary and terminal spikes. The crop is cut two or three times a year, the leaves being dried and packed in bales and exported for distillation of the oil. The best oil is freshly distilled near the plantations. That obtained from leaves imported into Europe, often damaged and adulterated even up to 80 per cent, is inferior. It is used in coarser perfumes and in 'White Rose' and 'Oriental' toilet soaps. Although the odour is objectionable to some, it is widely-used both in Asia and India. Sachets are made of the coarsely-powdered leaves, and before its common use in Europe, genuine Indian shawls and Indian ink were distinguished by the odour, which has

the unusual quality of improving with age. Hence the older oil is preferred by perfumers and used to confer more lasting properties upon other scents. ---Constituents---Oil of Patchouli is thick, the colour being brownish-yellow tinted green. It contains coerulein, the vivid blue compound found in matricaria, wormwood and other oils. It deposits a solid, or stearoptene, patchouli alcohol, leaving cadinene. It is laevorotatory, with the specific gravity of 0.970 to 0.990 at 15 degrees C. (59 degrees F.). ---Medicinal Action and Uses---Its use is said to cause sometimes loss of appetite and sleep and nervous attacks. The Chinese, Japanese and Arabs believe it to possess prophylactic properties. ---Other Species and Adulterations--- Java patchouli, often grown in Indian gardens for home use, is a product of Pogostemon Heyneanus.

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Sorry, I haven't heard of a thing. Gold has come down in price, however, so

maybe you could use that, instead. ;-)

Beth

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In a message dated 10/25/08 17:56:42 Eastern Daylight Time,

katyr64@... writes:

really, really need a pound of Patchouli but don't

want to pay the $90 if I can find a group buying in bulk. Anyone?

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I tried selling my patchouli for a higher price, too, without success. I just

hope that what I have will last until the price comes back down. I hope it

does.

Beth

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In a message dated 10/25/08 18:06:08 Eastern Daylight Time,

bundaflicka@... writes:

tried selling it in a cut-your-own format for $2 an ounce, but just had a few

takers. I finally cut it up like the rest of my soap and sold it as " Naked

Patchouli " unwrapped. Then it started going. I will just have to eat the extra

$$. It's fabulous patchouli oil.

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I found Dark Patchouli at Liberty Natural for $81.45/lb but drops to

$68.94/lb for 5 lbs. That's the best price I've been able to find. Using

the last of my good Patchouli now. I use it straight in soap but also

use it in 3 different blends. I'd sure hate to have to raise my prices

just for those soaps and I sure can't discontinue them as they are

requested frequently. Does anyone have experience, good or bad, with

Liberty Natural?

Thanks!

Katy

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Hello ladies,

I visit often and read the threads, but have not posted much. But with this

tread, I thought I would add my 2 cents.

Don't eat the extra " $$ " . Patchouli is way too expensive for that. Redirect your

" expensive " EO's into a gourmet line. If you're going the extra mile to make

Patchouli soap, then soup up the bar and charge more.

I really thought that I would have to go that route when I made my last batch of

Patchouli soap, but I said, " Hey, let me make this bar gourmet. " So I cut down

the amount of Patchouli by x-amount and added other EO's, like lime, orange,

titti-bitty cassia [cinnamon], one or two more, [can't give anyway the horse for

free], but not too much to over power my Patchouli. I was exceeding surprised

with the scent. [And so where my customers.] But that's not all folks!

Then I chucked the Patchouli soap and added it to a creamy non-scented white

based [looks like cobble stones [brown/tan color], nice] which double my amount

of Patchouli soap and it sold for $10 a bar.

My first gourmet soap.

Speak to your customers, they understand the concept of prices going up in

today's economy.

Once I have sold all of these last two batches [i make six pound logs], I've

told them that there will be three things happening: 1) If you want the EO,

you'll have to pay more, since I have to pay more. 2) I could try it with FOs

only. Or 3) Once the price comes down sometime in 2009, I'll start making it

again.

Some have said yes without pause to price increase. They must have it. Some say

no way to price increase. Those that said no to price increase said they will

try an FO.

Then you can gauge what is best for your customers and your business.

At the moment, I have decided to see if I can find a good FO. Anyone know of

one?

Plus, for my die hard fans, they will be paying $12 a bar for the Christmas

Holidays. I usually make 4 logs of Patchouli for Christmas and a couple of logs

from each of my other scents, I'm still really small.

But you get the picture, I hope this can help someone.

PS: Let me know if you have a good FO I can experiment with. Thanks.

Marisol in Brooklyn

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From: Katy <katyr64@frontiernet .net>

Subject: Patchouli

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Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 5:56 PM

Hi everyone! Does anyone know of a good Patchouli Essential Oil co-op

going on right now? I really, really need a pound of Patchouli but don't

want to pay the $90 if I can find a group buying in bulk. Anyone?

Katy

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Katy,

Have you tried it yet? Does it smell dark, warm and rich? That price sent

shivers up and down my spine!

Marisol in Brooklyn

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From: Katy <katyr64@...>

Subject: Re: Patchouli

Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 12:45 AM

I found Dark Patchouli at Liberty Natural for $81.45/lb but drops to

$68.94/lb for 5 lbs. That's the best price I've been able to find. Using

the last of my good Patchouli now. I use it straight in soap but also

use it in 3 different blends. I'd sure hate to have to raise my prices

just for those soaps and I sure can't discontinue them as they are

requested frequently. Does anyone have experience, good or bad, with

Liberty Natural?

Thanks!

Katy

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Hi Marisol,

No, I haven't but Liberty Natural is a very reputable vendor. I have

tried the Patchouli from Cheryl's vendor though (previous post) and

it's great so I think I'm going to shoot for that. Hope she can get

some more takers!

Katy

Quoting Marisol in Brooklyn <luzimarrod@...>:

> Katy,

>

> Have you tried it yet? Does it smell dark, warm and rich? That price

> sent shivers up and down my spine!

>

> Marisol in Brooklyn

> Ode to a bubble

> Cold-processed coconut shea

> Olive, palm and love

>

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Oh, no, my shiver passed. I've had that problem with Patchouli too. When it's

flat and just, " Duh! " smelling. This is one EO that I have found that not

everyone has a good quality one. And I have yet to find an FO to at least come

somewhat close.

Marisol in Brooklyn

Ode to a bubble

Cold-processed coconut shea

Olive, palm and love

From: Katy <katyr64@frontiernet .net>

Subject: Re: Patchouli

Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 12:45 AM

I found Dark Patchouli at Liberty Natural for $81.45/lb but drops to

$68.94/lb for 5 lbs. That's the best price I've been able to find. Using

the last of my good Patchouli now. I use it straight in soap but also

use it in 3 different blends. I'd sure hate to have to raise my prices

just for those soaps and I sure can't discontinue them as they are

requested frequently. Does anyone have experience, good or bad, with

Liberty Natural?

Thanks!

Katy

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I know what you mean, Marisol. The last Patchouli I purchased was from

Lavender Lane and it was the best I've ever had. Nice & dark with a

rich scent. Great stuff! She's not offering it right now until the

prices get better. I was lucky enough to get her last bottle.

Katy

Quoting Marisol in Brooklyn <luzimarrod@...>:

> Oh, no, my shiver passed. I've had that problem with Patchouli too.

> When it's flat and just, " Duh! " smelling. This is one EO that I have

> found that not everyone has a good quality one. And I have yet to

> find an FO to at least come somewhat close.

>

> Marisol in Brooklyn

> Ode to a bubble

> Cold-processed coconut shea

> Olive, palm and love

>

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I tried charging $2 more/bar for patchouli, but even those who came asking for

it, wouldn't pay more for it. Of course, it wasn't made as a gourmet soap; so,

maybe that would be the direction to go in. I can afford to sell it at my usual

price right now because I bought the patch when it was reasonable. It would

just be hard to replace. I actually figured if I ran out, I'd try for an FO to

fill the gap. I haven't tried any yet, but have heard from a couple of people

whose noses I respect, and they've reported that Southern Soapers and

Bittercreek South have authentic smelling Patchouli FO's.

Beth

www.SoapAndGarden.com

In a message dated 10/27/08 16:19:12 Eastern Daylight Time, luzimarrod@...

writes:

Don't eat the extra " $$ " . Patchouli is way too expensive for that. Redirect your

" expensive " EO's into a gourmet line. If you're going the extra mile to make

Patchouli soap, then soup up the bar and charge more.

I really thought that I would have to go that route when I made my last batch of

Patchouli soap, but I said, " Hey, let me make this bar gourmet. " So I cut down

the amount of Patchouli by x-amount and added other EO's, like lime, orange,

titti-bitty cassia [cinnamon], one or two more, [can't give anyway the horse for

free], but not too much to over power my Patchouli. I was exceeding surprised

with the scent. [And so where my customers.] But that's not all folks!

Then I chucked the Patchouli soap and added it to a creamy non-scented white

based [looks like cobble stones [brown/tan color], nice] which double my amount

of Patchouli soap and it sold for $10 a bar.

My first gourmet soap.

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