Re: JC in NIH Spironolactone

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Did he mean because of the low testost or because you do not have PA that he said that spiro was not the med for you. Have they discussed low sodium high K diet?What are they proposing to use.CE Grim MDOn Apr 12, 2012, at 1:03 AM, wrote: I spoke with the doctor this evening and he told me that Spironolactone was absolutely and definately the WRONG medicine for me. He knows that I have Low T and that the issue is North of the border. As I drift off into dream land I wonder if I might have avoided some issues if we had tested T before starting or atleast soon after breast development starts! Trivia: If you have low testosterone caused by the Petitury and antagonize it with Sprionolactone what system(s) might you affect?

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Ask the men on the list. Most of us over 40 seem to have low T, before the spiro. It's not a rare thing, I suppose and not isolated. Many of the men, and it's mostly women on this list, have mentioned low T's. Sprio certainly didn't help, but DASH and exercise the right way and it's possible to stop the spiro. I know.

I spoke with the doctor this evening and he told me that Spironolactone was absolutely and definately the WRONG medicine for me. He knows that I have Low T and that the issue is North of the border. As I drift off into dream land I wonder if I might have avoided some issues if we had tested T before starting or atleast soon after breast development starts! Trivia: If you have low testosterone caused by the Petitury and antagonize it with Sprionolactone what system(s) might you affect?

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Dr. Grim, you do not understand and please don't think I am being rude! The

process is to gather all and I mean all the info. Study the data and then and

only when he is at the best answer he can come up will he give it.

Please understand this is a research project. I am learning about research vs

projects which I have led many. Projects usualy have some critirea and a

deadline among other things. Research tends to gather events and takes you down

the path that is leads. Like many mazes there are more false directions and

backtracks In the computer business this is a lot like when a program fails.

You have to figure out what happeded and if you are real good you can look at

the " Bit " level where everything is 0 or 1, on or off. I used to be able to do

it, infact I used to be the instructor. If I can run 3 or 4 threads at the same

time and bring them back together I can run fast for a while, and then the " big

dog " needs to rest. And then we cycle . And now I'm recycling because I have

drifted. Do you think being up 17+ hours, being NPO until 7:15 pm and trying to

get all nutrition in one meal has anything to do with it? (2 hours after that

" hogfest " my BS was 123! Diane was so disappointed that she couldn't " Stick it

to me one more time!

If I didn't say it, they did say I have a mild case of hyperaldosterone.

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> > I spoke with the doctor this evening and he told me that

> > Spironolactone was absolutely and definately the WRONG medicine for

> > me. He knows that I have Low T and that the issue is North of the

> > border. As I drift off into dream land I wonder if I might have

> > avoided some issues if we had tested T before starting or atleast

> > soon after breast development starts! Trivia: If you have low

> > testosterone caused by the Petitury and antagonize it with

> > Sprionolactone what system(s) might you affect?

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Well I am not sure there is such a thing as a mild case. But hey I have only been doing this for about 40 years likely before he was born. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Apr 12, 2012, at 22:14, <jclark24p@...> wrote:

Dr. Grim, you do not understand and please don't think I am being rude! The process is to gather all and I mean all the info. Study the data and then and only when he is at the best answer he can come up will he give it.

Please understand this is a research project. I am learning about research vs projects which I have led many. Projects usualy have some critirea and a deadline among other things. Research tends to gather events and takes you down the path that is leads. Like many mazes there are more false directions and backtracks In the computer business this is a lot like when a program fails. You have to figure out what happeded and if you are real good you can look at the "Bit" level where everything is 0 or 1, on or off. I used to be able to do it, infact I used to be the instructor. If I can run 3 or 4 threads at the same time and bring them back together I can run fast for a while, and then the "big dog" needs to rest. And then we cycle . And now I'm recycling because I have drifted. Do you think being up 17+ hours, being NPO until 7:15 pm and trying to get all nutrition in one meal has anything to do with it? (2 hours after that "hogfest" my BS was

123! Diane was so disappointed that she couldn't "Stick it to me one more time!

If I didn't say it, they did say I have a mild case of hyperaldosterone.

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> > I spoke with the doctor this evening and he told me that

> > Spironolactone was absolutely and definately the WRONG medicine for

> > me. He knows that I have Low T and that the issue is North of the

> > border. As I drift off into dream land I wonder if I might have

> > avoided some issues if we had tested T before starting or atleast

> > soon after breast development starts! Trivia: If you have low

> > testosterone caused by the Petitury and antagonize it with

> > Sprionolactone what system(s) might you affect?

> >

> >

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, please understand that I might not be most or normal and may be rare. In

fact sometimes they change places like low K (wasn't that a requirement to DX PA

once? maybe some guy named Dr. Conn, 1956? Just think outside the box for a

minute, please.

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> I spoke with the doctor this evening and he told me that Spironolactone was

absolutely and definately the WRONG medicine for me. He knows that I have Low T

and that the issue is North of the border. As I drift off into dream land I

wonder if I might have avoided some issues if we had tested T before starting or

atleast soon after breast development starts! Trivia: If you have low

testosterone caused by the Petitury and antagonize it with Sprionolactone what

system(s) might you affect?

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What does age have to do with anything? I'm sorry but you just burst my bubble,

the next thing I'll know is that you will think people " with ONLY a H.S.

deploma " can't research as the nurse said! 17 minutes later I ha Cracked THE

Case. I simply asked her to read one sentence. My only comment was Case Closed

and I let her dry her own tears - I didn't cause them, her own guilt did!

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> > > > I spoke with the doctor this evening and he told me that

> > > > Spironolactone was absolutely and definately the WRONG medicine for

> > > > me. He knows that I have Low T and that the issue is North of the

> > > > border. As I drift off into dream land I wonder if I might have

> > > > avoided some issues if we had tested T before starting or atleast

> > > > soon after breast development starts! Trivia: If you have low

> > > > testosterone caused by the Petitury and antagonize it with

> > > > Sprionolactone what system(s) might you affect?

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