Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 Goodmorning! While your over cholestrol is high, you RATIO looks pretty much in line with what cardiologist like to see, 3.5 or lower. Lower the better on this. You still need to see about getting the overall figure down to 200, at least. Exercise is very important. It helps burn off the carbos before they hit your system and it keeps your heart muscle strong, lungs strong and your arteries and vessels soft and flexible. Get into an exercise program. Most large hospitals have 'em and even some independent cardio clinics. All you need to do is work 30-minutes on the cardio, three days a week and about 30-minutes on weight training. I've been doing this since a stent was put into the blockage in my LAD (The widow maker they call it), back in Sept.1996. I've never had any additional problems. Good Luck! Spring (Houston),Texas ========================================================== porchwork <bfsmo@...> wrote: I joined this forum last year when my husband had to have a bypass X 5.He had never had high cholesterol, high blood pressure or anything like that. Course he was put on statins, BP meds, etc after his bypass. After about 6 months he started having leg cramps, pain, etc. His cardiologist took him off the statins for 6 months and then I'm sure he will try to put him back on them....Anyway, I just got my cholesterol results back and they aren't too good!! My husband and I eat fairly well, we take some supplements created by a heart doctor so we thought we were doing the right thing and that they would help us keep our cholesterol levels in good shape.My labs were total 270 (I'm 55 years old)Trig. 184LDL 184HGL 49LDL HDL Ratio 3.78The only thing we haven't been doing regularly is exercise. How much does that help and does anyone have any other suggestions?ThanksBB __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 BB_ I was in your husbands position after my surgery, I found that COQ10 enzyme is depleted with the use of statins, I take 250 mg everyday, it took about 4 months to become pain free. As far as your result you are still under the 4:1 ratio, the trig is a little high,to much sugar can cause that. Good luck New Labs I joined this forum last year when my husband had to have a bypass X 5. He had never had high cholesterol, high blood pressure or anything like that. Course he was put on statins, BP meds, etc after his bypass. After about 6 months he started having leg cramps, pain, etc. His cardiologist took him off the statins for 6 months and then I'm sure he will try to put him back on them.... Anyway, I just got my cholesterol results back and they aren't too good!! My husband and I eat fairly well, we take some supplements created by a heart doctor so we thought we were doing the right thing and that they would help us keep our cholesterol levels in good shape. My labs were total 270 (I'm 55 years old) Trig. 184 LDL 184 HGL 49 LDL HDL Ratio 3.78 The only thing we haven't been doing regularly is exercise. How much does that help and does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks BB Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 > > BB_ I was in your husbands position after my surgery, I found that COQ10 enzyme is depleted with the use of statins, I take 250 mg everyday, it took about 4 months to become pain free. As far as your result you are still under the 4:1 ratio, the trig is a little high,to much sugar can cause that. Good luck > > > New Labs > > > My husband has been taking it for about 2 months or so.......he has shoulder pain, neck pain, hand pain & swelling. He is to see the doctor in 2 weeks.........He sure is upset about it all. > > > > I joined this forum last year when my husband had to have a bypass X > 5. > He had never had high cholesterol, high blood pressure or anything > like that. Course he was put on statins, BP meds, etc after his > bypass. After about 6 months he started having leg cramps, pain, > etc. His cardiologist took him off the statins for 6 months and then > I'm sure he will try to put him back on them.... > > Anyway, I just got my cholesterol results back and they aren't too > good!! My husband and I eat fairly well, we take some supplements > created by a heart doctor so we thought we were doing the right thing > and that they would help us keep our cholesterol levels in good shape. > > My labs were total 270 (I'm 55 years old) > Trig. 184 > LDL 184 > HGL 49 > LDL HDL Ratio 3.78 > > The only thing we haven't been doing regularly is exercise. How much > does that help and does anyone have any other suggestions? > > Thanks > BB > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My suggestions have to do with research. I think your Trigs are high and you need to reduce your sugar and white (potato, rice, and root veggies) input. Do some research and go to: http://www.spacedoc.net/ http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/ and start reading. You will find that total cholesterol does not indicate your potential for heart problems, and statin drugs are not good for you. Gene At 07:04 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: I joined this forum last year when my husband had to have a bypass X 5. He had never had high cholesterol, high blood pressure or anything like that. Course he was put on statins, BP meds, etc after his bypass. After about 6 months he started having leg cramps, pain, etc. His cardiologist took him off the statins for 6 months and then I'm sure he will try to put him back on them.... Anyway, I just got my cholesterol results back and they aren't too good!! My husband and I eat fairly well, we take some supplements created by a heart doctor so we thought we were doing the right thing and that they would help us keep our cholesterol levels in good shape. My labs were total 270 (I'm 55 years old) Trig. 184 LDL 184 HGL 49 LDL HDL Ratio 3.78 The only thing we haven't been doing regularly is exercise. How much does that help and does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Here is a hearty "I Second That!" - You should never take statins. - You should not reduce your cholesterol. - You should eat more natural fat and protein (meat!). - You should eat less carbs. Esp, potatoes, bread, pasta, corn, juicy fruits, root vegetables, milk. The low fat / low cholesterol myth has caused more damage and harm to people in general than just about anything else in the history of human kind! Good Luck! Dennis Gene Wolfe wrote the following on 10/31/2007 07:14 PM: My suggestions have to do with research. I think your Trigs are high and you need to reduce your sugar and white (potato, rice, and root veggies) input. Do some research and go to: http://www.spacedoc.net/ http://www.freewebs.com/stopped_our_statins/ and start reading. You will find that total cholesterol does not indicate your potential for heart problems, and statin drugs are not good for you. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Remind me again how old he is? Also is he on infusions? How often are his levels tested? It would really depend on his age to know the severity of these numbers. Some patients do fine with 300's. What is his function like? Did he mount antibodies and has low IgG or is he deficient in both? Ursula Mom to (17) and Macey (14) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/maceyholleman ________________________________ From: stacy171 <stacy171@...> Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 2:36:05 PM Subject: New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Remind me again how old he is? Also is he on infusions? How often are his levels tested? It would really depend on his age to know the severity of these numbers. Some patients do fine with 300's. What is his function like? Did he mount antibodies and has low IgG or is he deficient in both? Ursula Mom to (17) and Macey (14) http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/maceyholleman ________________________________ From: stacy171 <stacy171@...> Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 2:36:05 PM Subject: New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 My daughter's decreased when they should have been going up (after age 2). As they declined, GI infections + URIs wouldn't resolve. Her T cell function and b and t subsets were consistent w/ CVID. Dr placed her on ivig and all infections resolved in months. If your child has persistent and unusual infections w/ suspicious numbers...you'll want to get a full workup from trusted specialist. I wouldn't entrust my child to a Dr who " keeps blowing us off " . That's not ok when your child has active infections. Mom to cvider Sent on the Now Network™ from my Sprint® BlackBerry New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think I would be finding a new Immunologist for a second opinion. Chronic infections that do not respond to antibiotics are the mainstay of the diagnosis. My son is now 14 and has been on replacement for over 10 years and his labs have fluctuating significantly over the years although we have never been under 400 with his IgG. He has had periods of no IgE and many other variations in his B and T cell system. I do not know how old your child is or what treatment he has but I would look at the guidelines put out from the Asthma Allergist and Immunologist Association. I could not find it for you but i know that someone on this list has it. The treatment for a PID is replacement in most circumstances and the basic goal is to prevent organ damage. So if you son is currently not getting treatment for low Immune function and low IgG then I would be looking for another evaluation to see what needs to be done. Just my experience and opinion. BARBIE ________________________________ From: stacy171 <stacy171@...> Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:36:05 AM Subject: New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I think I would be finding a new Immunologist for a second opinion. Chronic infections that do not respond to antibiotics are the mainstay of the diagnosis. My son is now 14 and has been on replacement for over 10 years and his labs have fluctuating significantly over the years although we have never been under 400 with his IgG. He has had periods of no IgE and many other variations in his B and T cell system. I do not know how old your child is or what treatment he has but I would look at the guidelines put out from the Asthma Allergist and Immunologist Association. I could not find it for you but i know that someone on this list has it. The treatment for a PID is replacement in most circumstances and the basic goal is to prevent organ damage. So if you son is currently not getting treatment for low Immune function and low IgG then I would be looking for another evaluation to see what needs to be done. Just my experience and opinion. BARBIE ________________________________ From: stacy171 <stacy171@...> Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:36:05 AM Subject: New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I agree with Barbie, I would seek another opinion from a clinical immunlogist  Sue Petrelli mom to w CVID From: Barbara Jimenez <mother5590@...> Subject: Re: New labs Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:18 PM  I think I would be finding a new Immunologist for a second opinion. Chronic infections that do not respond to antibiotics are the mainstay of the diagnosis. My son is now 14 and has been on replacement for over 10 years and his labs have fluctuating significantly over the years although we have never been under 400 with his IgG. He has had periods of no IgE and many other variations in his B and T cell system. I do not know how old your child is or what treatment he has but I would look at the guidelines put out from the Asthma Allergist and Immunologist Association. I could not find it for you but i know that someone on this list has it. The treatment for a PID is replacement in most circumstances and the basic goal is to prevent organ damage. So if you son is currently not getting treatment for low Immune function and low IgG then I would be looking for another evaluation to see what needs to be done. Just my experience and opinion. BARBIE ____________ _________ _________ __ From: stacy171 <stacy171 (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:36:05 AM Subject: New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I agree with Barbie, I would seek another opinion from a clinical immunlogist  Sue Petrelli mom to w CVID From: Barbara Jimenez <mother5590@...> Subject: Re: New labs Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 8:18 PM  I think I would be finding a new Immunologist for a second opinion. Chronic infections that do not respond to antibiotics are the mainstay of the diagnosis. My son is now 14 and has been on replacement for over 10 years and his labs have fluctuating significantly over the years although we have never been under 400 with his IgG. He has had periods of no IgE and many other variations in his B and T cell system. I do not know how old your child is or what treatment he has but I would look at the guidelines put out from the Asthma Allergist and Immunologist Association. I could not find it for you but i know that someone on this list has it. The treatment for a PID is replacement in most circumstances and the basic goal is to prevent organ damage. So if you son is currently not getting treatment for low Immune function and low IgG then I would be looking for another evaluation to see what needs to be done. Just my experience and opinion. BARBIE ____________ _________ _________ __ From: stacy171 <stacy171 (DOT) com> groups (DOT) com Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:36:05 AM Subject: New labs Hi all, Just curious - did anyone see their child's immunoglobins slowly dropping off during repeat testing? We've been testing immunoglobins for 2 years. His IgG is low mid-300's and has remained there. His IgM started in the 60's (okay) and the new labs put it in the 30's (low). Now his IgA is low at 22 and it used to be in the 60's. Is that odd or is it maybe typical fluctuation? He isn't deathly ill with the exception of lots of upper respiratory and bowel bacteria/parasites, so the immunologist keeps blowing us off. No fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Hi There; Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year: Serum Aldosterone 17 (last year aldosterone: 12) (ref range <28) Plasma Renin 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83) (ref range 0.25-5.82) Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used) 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet) (ref range 3.5-5.3) Serum Na 141 (maintained over the course of the year) (ref range 3.5-5.3) 24h Urine Volume 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h) (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h) 24h Urine Sodium 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L) (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L) 24h Potassium Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L) Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h) Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309) (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat) 24h Urine Creatinine Creatinine, Urine 59.2 (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL) 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8) (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet) Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13) (ref range 0.63-2.50) Other notes: I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60. Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. Other health information: During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment. Questions: - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45) Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly? - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet? - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease. - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night? - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 How do you know it was a brown recluse bite? The only way to know typically is to watch it bite you. From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...>Subject: New Labshyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM Hi There;Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year:Serum Aldosterone17 (last year aldosterone: 12)(ref range <28)Plasma Renin1.14 (last year renin: 0.83)(ref range 0.25-5.82)Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used)4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet)(ref range 3.5-5.3)Serum Na141 (maintained over the course of the year)(ref range 3.5-5.3)24h Urine Volume2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h)(ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h)24h Urine Sodium17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L)(ref range 28-272 mmol/ L)24h PotassiumPotassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)(ref range 12-129 mmol/ L)Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)(ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h)Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309)(reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat)24h Urine CreatinineCreatinine, Urine 59.2 (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL)24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8)(ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet)Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13)(ref range 0.63-2.50)Other notes:I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60.Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. Other health information:During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment.Questions:- ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45)Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly?- Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet?- I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease.- Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night?- I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing.Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Apr 11, 2012, at 18:35, dsmemory <dsmemory@...> wrote: Hi There; Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year: Serum Aldosterone 17 (last year aldosterone: 12) (ref range <28) Plasma Renin 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83) (ref range 0.25-5.82) Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used) 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet) (ref range 3.5-5.3) Serum Na 141 (maintained over the course of the year) (ref range 3.5-5.3) 24h Urine Volume 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h) (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h) 24h Urine Sodium 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L) (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L) 24h Potassium Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L) Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)Doing good on DASH WITH GOAL of 24 hr U Na of < 67 and K > 110. (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h) Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309) (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat) 24h Urine Creatinine Creatinine, Urine 59.2 (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL) 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8) (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet) Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13) (ref range 0.63-2.50) Other notes: I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60. Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. Excellent DASHING I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. I would avoid the infusion of anything Other health information: During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment. Questions: - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45) Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly?What was 24 hr urine NA AND K and meds on day renin and Aldo were done. - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet?No good data but in general renin and Aldo will be higher on low sodium but ratio would prob be same as it is in u. - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decreaseDepends on NA and K intakes and meds OTC stuff at each time. - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night? - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 , several observations:1. If you got a tick bite with the 100% diagnostic rash, and if you got 10 days of antibiotics, Lyme has not been eradicated from you. What do yo mean by an " indeterminate " IgG and IgM? I'm betting that if you saw a Lyme-literate MD, you would not be borderline. I can see why the toxic mold made you worse.2. I blame at least my thyroid failure on a big immune response to Lyme. My antibodies at the time were >800. Now they are zero. Unfortunately, my immune system got it wrong and attacked the wrong thing.3. I've also had hyperparathyroidism. I have hyperaldosteronism and a bit elevated cortisol. 4. All those issues are endocrine.5. Why don't you stop your bedtime supplements and see what happens? , I am familiar with what you describe in the night. The sweats, shakes, etc., are symptomatic of Babesiosis and Lyme. I used to have awful nights but am much, much better. Here is a slide show my doc did at an '08 autism conference. He mentions the night stuff. http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf Val --- On Wed, 4/11/12, dsmemory <dsmemory@...> wrote: endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Apr 11, 2012, at 18:35, dsmemory <dsmemory@...> wrote: Hi There; Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year: Serum Aldosterone 17 (last year aldosterone: 12) (ref range <28) Plasma Renin 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83) (ref range 0.25-5.82) Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used) 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet) (ref range 3.5-5.3) Serum Na 141 (maintained over the course of the year) (ref range 3.5-5.3) 24h Urine Volume 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h) (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h) 24h Urine Sodium 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L) (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L) 24h Potassium Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L) Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h) Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309) (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat) 24h Urine Creatinine Creatinine, Urine 59.2 (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL) 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8) (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet) Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13) (ref range 0.63-2.50) Other notes: I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60. Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. Suggests DASH IS helping I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. Avoid infusions of anything unless documented as improving health with a search at pubmed. Other health information: During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment. Beware of studies if high antibody counts unless research is documented on PUBMED Questions: - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45) Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly?SOUNDS ok to me. - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet? - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease.Low sodium diet increases renin keep up the god work. - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night? It is normal and prob healthy for BP TO DROP at night. PAS TEND TO STAY up at night but goes away with low Na diet. Keep up the good work. - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing.Not likely Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Well better to catch it and examine it. How common are they where u live?May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Apr 11, 2012, at 20:36, Bingham <jlkbbk2003@...> wrote: How do you know it was a brown recluse bite? The only way to know typically is to watch it bite you. From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...>Subject: New Labshyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM Hi There;Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year:Serum Aldosterone17 (last year aldosterone: 12)(ref range <28)Plasma Renin1.14 (last year renin: 0.83)(ref range 0.25-5.82)Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used)4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet)(ref range 3.5-5.3)Serum Na141 (maintained over the course of the year)(ref range 3.5-5.3)24h Urine Volume2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h)(ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h)24h Urine Sodium17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L)(ref range 28-272 mmol/ L)24h PotassiumPotassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)(ref range 12-129 mmol/ L)Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)(ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h)Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309)(reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat)24h Urine CreatinineCreatinine, Urine 59.2 (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL)24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8)(ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet)Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13)(ref range 0.63-2.50)Other notes:I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60.Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. Other health information:During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment.Questions:- ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45)Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly?- Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet?- I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease.- Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night?- I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing.Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Just mentioned the spider bite in case in played into my present scenario to date. I did not see the spider bite me . . .however, had red, watery blister at tip of middle toe (woke up with this and it was throbbing). The toe turned entirely black. Severe pain shot through my foot, ankle and up to my knee plus swelling. Had to lay on my back with my foot elevated for 3 weeks. Dr. assumed bite with the statement " If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. " Pumped me full of antibiotics at that time too, as I recall. I am thankful I did not loose the toe. We live in Northern California and yes they are in our environment. It's a thing of the past, but didn't know if it was worth mentioning. Thanks everyone for your input. Really appreciate you all. > > > > From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...> > > Subject: New Labs > > hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM > > > > > > Hi There; > > > > Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year: > > > > Serum Aldosterone > > 17 (last year aldosterone: 12) > > (ref range <28) > > > > Plasma Renin > > 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83) > > (ref range 0.25-5.82) > > > > Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used) > > 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet) > > (ref range 3.5-5.3) > > > > Serum Na > > 141 (maintained over the course of the year) > > (ref range 3.5-5.3) > > > > 24h Urine Volume > > 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h) > > (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h) > > > > 24h Urine Sodium > > 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L) > > (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L) > > > > 24h Potassium > > Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) > > (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L) > > > > Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) > > (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h) > > > > Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309) > > (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat) > > > > 24h Urine Creatinine > > Creatinine, Urine 59.2 > > (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL) > > > > 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8) > > (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet) > > > > Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13) > > (ref range 0.63-2.50) > > > > Other notes: > > I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60. > > > > Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. > > > > I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. > > > > Other health information: > > During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment. > > > > Questions: > > > > - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45) > > Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly? > > > > - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet? > > > > - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease. > > > > - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night? > > > > - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. > > > > Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Even then most arent big enough to bite us (their mouths) and when they do its typically because they were in the sheets or stuck in our clothes. Studies have shown they have to "pushed" to bite and are very non-aggressive. On culture it is almost 100% a staph infection - a mosquito bite, a flea bite, an "itch" we scratched open - but everyone tends to call them a "spider bite" and like the "hormones caused it" minds that can't be changed once they decide this is the only cause of obesity that admittedly I tease about maybe too often - the spider bites are in this category too, male or female (I don't know about her case), but once it's a spider it's a spider. So I am always interested in the history. Once someone decides it's a spider bite, it's a spider bite, but it's nearly never one. Spiders can't bite us usually due to their size and our skin, and most do not and will not - even the Brown Recluse, which are called a recluse for a reason. The box spider fits this category too, but both, and include the BW which has a different venom and M.O. than the other two, rarely bite. When I was a young paramedic in LA county I had a Japanese partner (can't say "partner" anymore can I or people don't know what I mean ) who was petrified, literally of spiders. I had a lot of fun at his expense with the fake halloween spiders. Oops. He's an LA County Sheriff now. Hope he forgives me. Now this is not just my opinion, but my info is from research and education (this was also a specialty of our paramedic faculty in Los Angeles County back in the day at Mount San College and we got it ad nauseam - but it was interesting!)............and then also talking to Dr Burch of Loma fame (the "Venom Doctor") who returned my call in Texas once because we had so many claiming to have spider bites I emailed him asking him (he had his own show on Animal Planet at the time) and he called me and talked for an hour educating me and emailed me things. Pretty darn cool. What A SUPER nice guy who took the time for us little people . He said that even in B.R. bites it is still almost always a staph infection (sometimes strep/maybe pseudomonas too) and not an envonomation problem. I just have an interest in this for some reason and love to learn about the venomous animals (we're up here in AZ now and I have got a few ratllers in the yard! - none this year yet though). So we hit a topic I love to learn about, but we can stick to PA. Just curious. BTW Dr Burch said that where we lived it was most likely the kissing beetles - they were everywhere, loved to bite, and left a single blister like spot (painful too) and that was what likely got torn open and infected. I wasn't a native, having grown up in So Cal, so the kissing beetles were knew to me ("kissing" because one most often sees them paired up mating) . Saw ticks there, but not many fleas, and mosquitoes were average in the that Southern part of the Texas Panhandle. Kind of miss it sometimes.......not the bugs....... From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...>Subject: New Labshyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM Hi There;Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year:Serum Aldosterone17 (last year aldosterone: 12)(ref range <28)Plasma Renin1.14 (last year renin: 0.83)(ref range 0.25-5.82)Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used)4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet)(ref range 3.5-5.3)Serum Na141 (maintained over the course of the year)(ref range 3.5-5.3)24h Urine Volume2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h)(ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h)24h Urine Sodium17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L)(ref range 28-272 mmol/ L)24h PotassiumPotassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)(ref range 12-129 mmol/ L)Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)(ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h)Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309)(reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat)24h Urine CreatinineCreatinine, Urine 59.2 (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL)24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8)(ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet)Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13)(ref range 0.63-2.50)Other notes:I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60.Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. Other health information:During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment.Questions:- ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45)Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly?- Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet?- I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease.- Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night?- I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing.Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 If it quacks like a duck it could be a hunter with a gun too......... From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...>Subject: Re: New Labshyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 9:44 PM Just mentioned the spider bite in case in played into my present scenario to date. I did not see the spider bite me . . .however, had red, watery blister at tip of middle toe (woke up with this and it was throbbing). The toe turned entirely black. Severe pain shot through my foot, ankle and up to my knee plus swelling. Had to lay on my back with my foot elevated for 3 weeks. Dr. assumed bite with the statement "If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck." Pumped me full of antibiotics at that time too, as I recall. I am thankful I did not loose the toe. We live in Northern California and yes they are in our environment.It's a thing of the past, but didn't know if it was worth mentioning. Thanks everyone for your input. Really appreciate you all.> > > > From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...>> > Subject: New Labs> > hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM> > > > > > Hi There;> > > > Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year:> > > > Serum Aldosterone> > 17 (last year aldosterone: 12)> > (ref range <28)> > > > Plasma Renin> > 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83)> > (ref range 0.25-5.82)> > > > Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used)> > 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet)> > (ref range 3.5-5.3)> > > > Serum Na> > 141 (maintained over the course of the year)> > (ref range 3.5-5.3)> > > > 24h Urine Volume> > 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h)> > (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h)> > > > 24h Urine Sodium> > 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L)> > (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L)> > > > 24h Potassium> > Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)> > (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L)> > > > Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level)> > (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h)> > > > Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309)> > (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat)> > > > 24h Urine Creatinine> > Creatinine, Urine 59.2 > > (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL)> > > > 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8)> > (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet)> > > > Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13)> > (ref range 0.63-2.50)> > > > Other notes:> > I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60.> > > > Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. > > > > I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. > > > > Other health information:> > During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment.> > > > Questions:> > > > - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45)> > Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly?> > > > - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet?> > > > - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease.> > > > - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night?> > > > - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing.> > > > Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you!> > > > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Watch out for the green rattlers there in AZ...super venomous and agressive! I was on the phone with my sister when she slid open her sliding glass porch door to let the cat in, and one of them jumped in! Blood curdling screaming and complete chaos followed. They all; kids and my sister, ran out of the house and her husband managed to get it in the garage, but I guess it was a close call. That's before the phone call when they spotted a giant tarantula in their family room. And before I found a scorpion on my bed and a hila monster on the path to my room at a hotel not far from Sierra Tuscon. I am scared s***less when I go to AZ!!!! Have to go to my neice's graduatin in May and already worried! > > > From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...> > Subject: New Labs > hyperaldosteronism > Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM > > > > Â > > Hi There; > > Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year: > > Serum Aldosterone > 17 (last year aldosterone: 12) > (ref range <28) > > Plasma Renin > 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83) > (ref range 0.25-5.82) > > Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used) > 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet) > (ref range 3.5-5.3) > > Serum Na > 141 (maintained over the course of the year) > (ref range 3.5-5.3) > > 24h Urine Volume > 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h) > (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h) > > 24h Urine Sodium > 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L) > (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L) > > 24h Potassium > Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) > (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L) > > Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) > (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h) > > Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309) > (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat) > > 24h Urine Creatinine > Creatinine, Urine 59.2 > (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL) > > 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8) > (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet) > > Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13) > (ref range 0.63-2.50) > > Other notes: > I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60. > > Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. > > I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. > > Other health information: > During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to > environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment. > > Questions: > > - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45) > Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly? > > - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet? > > - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease. > > - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night? > > - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. > > Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Watch out for the green rattlers there in AZ...super venomous and agressive! I was on the phone with my sister when she slid open her sliding glass porch door to let the cat in, and one of them jumped in! Blood curdling screaming and complete chaos followed. They all; kids and my sister, ran out of the house and her husband managed to get it in the garage, but I guess it was a close call. That's before the phone call when they spotted a giant tarantula in their family room. And before I found a scorpion on my bed and a hila monster on the path to my room at a hotel not far from Sierra Tuscon. I am scared s***less when I go to AZ!!!! Have to go to my neice's graduatin in May and already worried! > > > From: dsmemory <dsmemory@...> > Subject: New Labs > hyperaldosteronism > Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2012, 6:35 PM > > > > Â > > Hi There; > > Just got my labs back and had some questions. First the labs with a comparison to last year: > > Serum Aldosterone > 17 (last year aldosterone: 12) > (ref range <28) > > Plasma Renin > 1.14 (last year renin: 0.83) > (ref range 0.25-5.82) > > Serum Potassium (no tourniquet used) > 4.0 (serum k has remained between 3.8-4.5 over the year - no tourniquet) > (ref range 3.5-5.3) > > Serum Na > 141 (maintained over the course of the year) > (ref range 3.5-5.3) > > 24h Urine Volume > 2248mL/24h H (last year volume 3032 - has been as high as 4288mL/24h) > (ref range 800 - 1800 mL/ 24 h) > > 24h Urine Sodium > 17 (over the course of the year, I have maintained around 24 mmol/L) > (ref range 28-272 mmol/ L) > > 24h Potassium > Potassium, Urine 39.1 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) > (ref range 12-129 mmol/ L) > > Potassium, Urine 24h 88 (over the course of the year, I have maintained this level) > (ref range 22-160 mmol/ 24h) > > Potassium, urine 24h 264 (last year was at 309) > (reg range 20-100 mmol/ g creat) > > 24h Urine Creatinine > Creatinine, Urine 59.2 > (ref range 15.0-278.0 mg/dL) > > 24h Aldosterone 9.7 (previous year 5.8) > (ref range 2.3-21 random sodium diet) > > Creatinine Urine 1.30 (previous year 1.13) > (ref range 0.63-2.50) > > Other notes: > I have lability to my blood pressure (have had lability for the past 1.5 years, previous to that normal bp). In the last 90 days have had high of 166/109 and low of 96/50. As I have maintained more of a DASH style diet I have less up and down bp swings throughout the daytime (if I maintain 500 mg Na with around 4700 mg K, I do the best with bp). While I have been having trouble sleeping for the past 2 years (night hot flashes, laying awake for hours or disturbed sleep), I have noticed a troubling trend happening in the middle of the night (usually 1-3 a.m. I awaken clammy, jittery or feeling like I am vibrating, nauseated, hot) and am finding that my bp has dropped to the aforementioned low of around 96/50 (although I suspect that it may go lower, as this is usually by the time I get my head out of a stuppor and think about putting a bp cuff on). Higher readings always take place during the day. My average HR is around 60. > > Previous nocturia of 4-6x night (1.5 years ago) has substantially decreased to 1x night. > > I am taking magnesium 200mg - 1x daily and mixed tocopherols, both taken at bedtime (have been taking these for the past 4 months). Also getting weekly infusion of 5cc. phosphatidylcholine (http://www.bodybio.com/BodyBio/docs/BodyBioBulletin-Phosphatidylcholine.pdf) to help clear toxins. Otherwise no OTC, no BB. Do not do licorice. > > Other health information: > During this past year discovered that we had toxic mold in our home (upon environmental inspection) and got greatly ill with flu like feeling, loss of balance, could no longer walk independently and had my perception greatly affected (watched walls bending and could watch the window floating around on the wall). I am now feeling better since moving out of the home and brain fog is gone, can now walk independently and can now drive again. Since moving, extreme thirst and nausea has greatly subsided. Also have elevated billi (1.7) and low platelets (has been as low as 70,000 and last count was at 130,000). Have elevated antibody counts to HHV-6, epstein barr and mycoplasma pneumoniae. Lyme test borerline (Igenex IgG and IgM), although have history of both tick bite with red ring (was put on 10 day course of antibiotics at time of bite 15 years ago) and past brown recluse spider bite (7 years ago). Over this past year have also become hypersensitive to > environmental chemicals and have multiple food allergies. Just can't kick feeling flu-like at the moment. > > Questions: > > - ARR this year is 14.91 (previous year 14.45) > Can we still conclude that this is early normokalemic PA? Did I calculate that correctly? > > - Aldo/ Renin done on restricted sodium diet. Is there a calculation to determine what Aldosterone or Renin might be if it were on a normal sodium diet? > > - I was surprised to see that my Renin elevated a bit over last year. I would have thought that if this is early PA, that the renin would slide the other direction and decrease. > > - Should I be concerned with bp dropping in middle of the night? Would the magnesium or tocopherols have anything to do with this drop each night? > > - I am suspecting that the toxins that hit my body, may have caused endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. > > Thanks for any thoughts or insight here. I really appreciate all of you! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Thanks for the note Val. I am seeing an LLMD right now and will actually be seeing him again next week. I know he has had other priorities with my health (with mold toxcicity and high viral counts) and asked me to be patient as we unpeel the layers. I took a look at the link you sent and think I will pursue looking more strongly with him at Lyme. What is suspicious is the IgG results (18kDa+). Thanks again for the input! > > > > endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Keep us posted. Mold disease is slippery as well. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Apr 11, 2012, at 22:13, dsmemory <dsmemory@...> wrote: Thanks for the note Val. I am seeing an LLMD right now and will actually be seeing him again next week. I know he has had other priorities with my health (with mold toxcicity and high viral counts) and asked me to be patient as we unpeel the layers. I took a look at the link you sent and think I will pursue looking more strongly with him at Lyme. What is suspicious is the IgG results (18kDa+). Thanks again for the input! > > > > endocrine disruption. Val, I know you have stated the same thing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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