Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 My chest xray still shows cardiomegaly. I have been on Inspra for one year. Maybe I should change to Spiro? Phyllis On 5/5/2012 11:33 AM, wrote: I came across this study this morning and thought others might learn from it. Seems to explain how and why Spironolactone is being used for essential HTN also. Source: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/55/5/1137.full.pdf Rapid Reversal of Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Intracardiac Volume Overload in Patients With Resistant Hypertension and Hyperaldosteronism A Prospective Clinical Study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Nice article and I recall that I suggested this study to Dr.Calhoun a few years ago.They do did not test low sodium diet which quickly lowers BP in these patients. Trust they are working on this aspect of the aldo/salt problem.As I noted in last email because the changes are significant at 3 months they must start earlier.The rice-fruit diet can show remarkable reduction within 1 month. See our files on Kempner Rice Fruit diet or the 1944 article.or On May 5, 2012, at 10:33 AM, wrote: I came across this study this morning and thought others might learn from it. Seems to explain how and why Spironolactone is being used for essential HTN also. Source: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/55/5/1137.full.pdf Rapid Reversal of Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Intracardiac Volume Overload in Patients With Resistant Hypertension and Hyperaldosteronism A Prospective Clinical Study 1 of 1 File(s) Kempner NYAcadSci 1946.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 What is your BP. and your Na intake. Cardiomegaly on chest film is really big. See the rice diet article which will reverse it in a month if you can do it.CE Grim MDOn May 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Phyllis wrote: My chest xray still shows cardiomegaly. I have been on Inspra for one year. Maybe I should change to Spiro? Phyllis On 5/5/2012 11:33 AM, wrote: I came across this study this morning and thought others might learn from it. Seems to explain how and why Spironolactone is being used for essential HTN also. Source: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/55/5/1137.full.pdf Rapid Reversal of Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Intracardiac Volume Overload in Patients With Resistant Hypertension and Hyperaldosteronism A Prospective Clinical Study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I will try the rice diet http://forums.ricediet.com/ Phyllis On 5/5/2012 2:26 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: What is your BP. and your Na intake. Cardiomegaly on chest film is really big. See the rice diet article which will reverse it in a month if you can do it. CE Grim MD On May 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Phyllis wrote: My chest xray still shows cardiomegaly. I have been on Inspra for one year. Maybe I should change to Spiro? Phyllis On 5/5/2012 11:33 AM, wrote: I came across this study this morning and thought others might learn from it. Seems to explain how and why Spironolactone is being used for essential HTN also. Source: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/55/5/1137.full.pdf Rapid Reversal of Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Intracardiac Volume Overload in Patients With Resistant Hypertension and Hyperaldosteronism A Prospective Clinical Study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 >> g> > > > From: hyperaldosteronism > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim> Sent: 2012-May-05 Saturday 11:49> hyperaldosteronism > Cc: Clarence Grim> Subject: Re: Spirolactone - What's It Good For? [1> Attachment]> > > > Nice article and I recall that I suggested this study to Dr.Calhoun a few> years ago.> > > > They do did not test low sodium diet which quickly lowers BP in these> patients. Trust they are working on this aspect of the aldo/salt problem.> > > > As I noted in last email because the changes are significant at 3 months> they must start earlier.> > > > The rice-fruit diet can show remarkable reduction within 1 month. See our> files on Kempner Rice Fruit diet or the 1944 article.> > > > > > > > or> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 The a ability to measure cholesterol in 1944 was poor. So would g ignore these. There are some later articles by Dahl I. Which the cholest got better also. Also not many really had high cholest then. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn May 5, 2012, at 17:01, Study Circle <studycircle@...> wrote: <image001.png> From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimSent: 2012-May-05 Saturday 11:49hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence GrimSubject: Re: Spirolactone - What's It Good For? [1 Attachment] Nice article and I recall that I suggested this study to Dr.Calhoun a few years ago. They do did not test low sodium diet which quickly lowers BP in these patients. Trust they are working on this aspect of the aldo/salt problem. As I noted in last email because the changes are significant at 3 months they must start earlier. The rice-fruit diet can show remarkable reduction within 1 month. See our files on Kempner Rice Fruit diet or the 1944 article. or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 Sent too soon. Sorry. But note the longer on the diet the greater the decrease in cholesterol even with those methods. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn May 5, 2012, at 17:51, Clarence Grim <lowerbp2@...> wrote: The a ability to measure cholesterol in 1944 was poor. So would g ignore these. There are some later articles by Dahl I. Which the cholest got better also. Also not many really had high cholest then. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn May 5, 2012, at 17:01, Study Circle <studycircle@...> wrote: <image001.png> From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimSent: 2012-May-05 Saturday 11:49hyperaldosteronism Cc: Clarence GrimSubject: Re: Spirolactone - What's It Good For? [1 Attachment] Nice article and I recall that I suggested this study to Dr.Calhoun a few years ago. They do did not test low sodium diet which quickly lowers BP in these patients. Trust they are working on this aspect of the aldo/salt problem. As I noted in last email because the changes are significant at 3 months they must start earlier. The rice-fruit diet can show remarkable reduction within 1 month. See our files on Kempner Rice Fruit diet or the 1944 article. or Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 When attempting the rice diet, do you have to be monitored by a doctor to do this? Kathy Re: Spirolactone - What's It Good For? I will try the rice diethttp://forums.ricediet.com/PhyllisOn 5/5/2012 2:26 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: What is your BP. and your Na intake. Cardiomegaly on chest film is really big. See the rice diet article which will reverse it in a month if you can do it. CE Grim MD On May 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Phyllis wrote: My chest xray still shows cardiomegaly. I have been on Inspra for one year. Maybe I should change to Spiro?PhyllisOn 5/5/2012 11:33 AM, wrote: I came across this study this morning and thought others might learn from it. Seems to explain how and why Spironolactone is being used for essential HTN also.Source: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/55/5/1137.full.pdfRapid Reversal of Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Intracardiac Volume Overload in Patients With Resistant Hypertension and Hyperaldosteronism A Prospective Clinical Study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 That is recommended at first as the BP can fall quickly with the strict rice-fruit. I recommend doing the 14 day DASH first. If that does not work then do the Rice diet. You can order the book from ricediet.com.CE Grim MDOn May 6, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Kathy Dugan wrote: When attempting the rice diet, do you have to be monitored by a doctor to do this? Kathy Re: Spirolactone - What's It Good For? I will try the rice diethttp://forums.ricediet.com/PhyllisOn 5/5/2012 2:26 PM, Clarence Grim wrote: What is your BP. and your Na intake. Cardiomegaly on chest film is really big. See the rice diet article which will reverse it in a month if you can do it. CE Grim MD On May 5, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Phyllis wrote: My chest xray still shows cardiomegaly. I have been on Inspra for one year. Maybe I should change to Spiro?PhyllisOn 5/5/2012 11:33 AM, wrote: I came across this study this morning and thought others might learn from it. Seems to explain how and why Spironolactone is being used for essential HTN also.Source: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/55/5/1137.full.pdfRapid Reversal of Left Ventricular Hypertrophy and Intracardiac Volume Overload in Patients With Resistant Hypertension and Hyperaldosteronism A Prospective Clinical Study Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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