update

February 15, 2000

No, can't say that I have... I live in Mishawaka Indiana

cc

October 23, 2000

Kay, Glad to hear from you. I was thinking about you

and your family just yesterday. I'm also happy to hear

everything you going well in your house. sounds

like she is doing great! Crawling! WOW! I know when

grandma is there it's alot of help for you. Thank God

for grandma's huh? I know you are glad the feeding

tube is out. I never had to go through that with

either of mine.

Hope you have a good week.

Pam mom to Hannah and both DS.

--- " Tiernan, Kay " <kay.tiernan@...> wrote:

>

> Gail, " so overwhelmed you can't think " is my line

> with the triplets!

> :~)

>

> Judi, thanks for checking up on us. Things are

> actually going well for my

> family. is doing well. Been off the NG tube for

> almost a month now. She

> is just starting to gain weight. She is such a happy

> girl. Her parents are

> too! I told Tom that I feel like we've gotten our

> lives back since the

> feeding pump has been gone. She is now crawling

> everywhere and can even

> crawl up a couple steps! She is sitting up playing

> now and will crawl over

> or crawl onto her siblings for toys or to play with

> them. She has this

> fetish for hair! :~) Loves to pull her sister's hair

> and just

> hates it. I can say, " Here comes , " and she will

> quickly turn to see if

> is near her head. tries to help her

> drink from his sippy cup

> and always brings her a burp cloth. Since

> she has been off the

> tube and we're not pumping as much formula in her,

> her reflux has really

> dissipated. I think getting vertical more is helping

> as well. I think

> Carolyn said that helped hers. My parents just left

> after a two week visit

> and Grandma Dorothy is coming back to visit for the

> month of November. We're

> very excited about that. Might not let her leave!

> Last she saw the kids,

> had taken her first steps.

>

> I've missed talking with all of you!

> Kay, Mom to , , -ds, 19 mos.

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January 5, 2001

It is funny. I read about your lives and I think it sounds tough. I am sure people look at my life and think the same. I hear so many comments about having 4 kids ages 4 and younger, yet I don't think it is that tough. I have moments that I want to scream and run away but when I think it through, I don't know where I would run.

Maggie doesn't have any behaivor issues that are dangerous or even annoying. She is the nicest little girl who laughs easily and is basically content. She likes to play with her things, watch Elmo, play with Mommy (when I can) and watch her siblings act weird. She is so interactive and smart! She can solve any problems that presents itself to her. I know she is only 2 and we have many years to go and many things to experience but right now I am so happy with her. I am on a high as I had an awesome meeting with her speech therapist today. She is using words to express her needs, ie: No, juice, cookie, Pooh (to get a Winnie the Pooh stamp). She has always "spoke" at home but is reluctant to at playgroup. She has finally broke out of her shell! Hurray!

I am going to NY this weekend with only Teddy to visit my parents. It will be like a mini vacation. Yippee. My husband always appreciates me so much more after I have left him with the kids for a day or two.

Have a great weekend,

Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, Teddy 3 months

January 14, 2001

,

So sorry to hear of your Aunts passing.........glad did not get a

diagnosis of Autism. My nephew, who is 10yrs old, is autistic, and

moderetly so.......he's my older sisters 2nd son....................you

can imagin the pain for my father in hearing the news about Tara's

diagnosis after her birth, after feeling my sisters struggles and

frustrations all these years, I know shortly after he found out, he

" yelled " up to heaven, " why my daughters Lord? " " You are really testing

us! "

Anyway.....................as always, best of luck to our friends from

Canada!

Gail.......Mom to Bobby{7 yrs old tomorrow!}Jillian 4 1/2, and Tara

>

> Hi Everyone;

>

> OMG, Judi...I forgot to say Happy B-day to S & P....sooo sorry.

> Anyhow...HAPPY BELATED B-DAY Sam & .

>

> My aunt did die last Sunday. The funeral was this past

> Wednesday....the church was FULL. Sad day.

>

> Nicala's eczema is basically gone....this study drug lotion is

> AMAZING. Bad news is that on Friday Nicala started throwing up, had a

> chest x-ray and has pneumonia. Her hard wood floor STILL hasn't been

> put in.

>

> Saw the specialist and does not have autism and I don't think

> he will ever get that diagnosis. He may however (but not at the

> present) be given the diagnosis of PDD. He does display some autistic

> mannerisms but the Dr. believes they are because of his inability to

> communicate. Just his past week he has started becoming physically

> aggressive with his sisters....e.g.. biting, pulling their clothes and

> pulling their hair.

>

> as Tiger would say....TTFN (ta ta for now);

>

> , mom to 27 weeker twins Nicala & ,ds (now 4) and

> (2)

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: So sorry to hear about your Aunt.

Gosh, poor Nicala, when it rains, it pours!! Glad to

hear her eczema cleared up quickly. Hope she recovers

quicky from the pneumonia!!

S & P say " thanks " for the b-day wishes! Will have some

pictures to post here (probably not until Tuesday,

tho!).

Sounds like you have a lot going on, hang in there!

Judi

__________________________________________________

September 20, 2001

christel-- sounds like you are sort of the same boat as me. here are my .02:

concerning parasites, as i have posted over and over here, a 7 day cleanse or

a 4 week cleanse is a ludicrous proposition. one expert in parasitology once

told me that if you have one, then chances are you have a boatload. i have

also heard this from a woman who has been administering colonics for many

yeas and sees them every day. this has born out to be the truth in at least

my case-- though i didn't want to believe either of them. i also think that

the truth of parasites goes alot deeper than just go out and kill them. i

have done 3 years of intense kinesiology testing and taken almost every

product on the market and spent way too much money. i made progress but not

enough. the natural evolution for me has been to move to the raw food diet--

which according to aajonus v will take care of most of the problems you

mentioned. i find my body so much more receptive to raw foods than to

supplements-- even when properly tested with kinesiology. i also do ozone

saunas. so all my money is currently on ozone sauna and raw foods. in years

of searching this is the best thing i have come up with. it's also very

simple.

according to aajonus, immunizations are a more potent source of mercury

poisoning than amalgams. though since you had 12 -- i dont know. i would

recommend however that you stabilize your energy and diet before getting the

remaining fillings replaced. once i had mine out, it was like a cascade-- my

body just shifted in detox mode that still has not ended many years later.

mercury seems to be a very complicated subject and very unique to the

individual. i talked recently with a chinese educated western doc. he

recommended eating liver as the best way to deal with mercury as ultimately

the liver is the organ tha has to detoxify it. aajonus recommends berries

with raw cream as a merc detox. the vit c binds the metal and the fat escorts

it to the bowel. i do believe that fats are important in mercury detox and i

suspect that the people who damage themselves irreparably did not eat enough

fat to protect their nervous system. this is just a personal belief.

anyway, dont give in to fear of your problem. occam's razor: the simplest

solution will be the most effective

September 20, 2001

Hello,

I suggest you talk to another qxci tester.... the machine is not to be

taken so literally..... but... to give a sense of possible direction

to take and also a consideration of possible problems.

If you get on the qxci discussion group.... then I believe

you will be put at ease.

" quantumqxci and they handle questions, "

Mike Slivinski

ps how do I know this to be true.... well I was helping

the american rep, a long time rep and trainer of the qxci

a little over year ago when he was in that position.

And had many a discussion with the accuracy of the qxci.

Hope this group can help you.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:27:24 EDT Christelti@... writes:

> Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine

> Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to

> get this

> diagnosis.

> It is pretty scary to me.

> Not the test but the results.

> Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood,

> Asbestos,

> Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid.

> And my

> body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites.

> The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis.

> My brain remained unaffected by this treatment according to the

> feedback from

> the machine.My brain and my eyes are effected the most.

> Her suggestions were to take the following

> 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

> 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat

> 3 adrenal support

> 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus

> 5 Mycrohydren

> 6 Crystal Energy

> 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy

> 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain

>

> In addition to this she wants me to take minerals,iodine,Bentonite,

> Zinc,Flax

> Seed,CS,CoQ10.

>

> I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk

> about

> Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I

> should know

> about before I get it?

> This is really overwhelming and scary to me.

> Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the

> cleanses.

> Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7

> liver

> flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above

> if it

> has not so far?

> I had 12 amalgam fillings replaced with caps 2 years ago and the

> dentist was

> very sloppy. So I am not surprised to have this still in my system.

> The

> radiation must be from all the years I was flying.

> But the oxygen I do not understand. I drink ozonated water and use

> Homozon.

> She says nothing gets absorbed in my system.

> I want to keep my brain and my eyes and am worried because I noticed

>

> deterioration in both.

> I still have an old root canal and 3 more amalgam fillings. And I

> don't know

> what kind of metal is under the caps. But having all this dental

> work redone

> is totally out of the question due to financial distress.

> Does this protocol above sound good to all you experts or what would

> you do

> in my case.

> I appreciate and am grateful for all replies.

> Thank you so very much for listening.

> Christel

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September 20, 2001

Christelti@a... wrote:

> I still have parasites.

> The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis.

What sort of Rife device is being used? Pad/contact or plasma tube?

Is this a device that you own (so you can experiment with adding

more frequencies and longer dwell times)?

> Her suggestions were to take the following

> 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

Please, if you are going to detox (chelate) mercury,

do it correctly, or you can make your situation worse.

When you chelate mercury, you don't just remove it from your body,

you move it around in your body. Because of this, you should do

the following, in this order:

1) remove all sources of mercury from your body (eg. your amalgams)

before you start chelating

2) use the chelating agents that don't cross the brain/blood barrier

and get all of the mercury out of your body first

3) use the chelating agents that cross the brain/blood barrier

and get all of the mercury out of your brain

If you use chelating agents that cross the brain/blood barrier

before you've cleared your body of mercury then you may move

more mercury into your brain (say if your body has higher levels

of mercury than your brain). This would be bad.

This protocol is discussed, with names of the chelating agents, in:

autism

> But having all this dental work redone is totally out of

> the question due to financial distress.

I suggest that you go to the above group, and ask for advice there

about your situation w.r.t. your fillings and mercury in your body.

September 20, 2001

----- Original Message -----

Wrote:

> Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine

> Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to get this

> diagnosis.

> It is pretty scary to me.

> Not the test but the results.

Dear Christel,

***One of the problems I have with " tests " is the fact that they simply are

not always accurate. I've found this to be true in traditional medicine,

and I see no reason to believe otherwise with other " machines " . Reason

being is it's only a machine. How I long for the days when a patient would

be treated for themself and not for the " results " of the testing done on

them.

> Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood,

Asbestos,

> Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. And my

> body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites.

***I guess I'm behind the group, but what are you treating yourself for that

you know of before the test? Even if what the testing said is true in your

case, it seems like it can be treated. Candida I'm sure you know how to

treat. Parasites, really don't we all have them, and that is why we have to

do a maintenance program? You've already gotten some really sound advice on

mercury detoxing.

> This is really overwhelming and scary to me.

***It always amazes me how everybody seems to have the answers for whatever

ails us, or at least they seem to think so! I think you are doing a fine

job. I think some of the fear is when we actually listen to them! LOL Not

to be making light of their help, but sometimes it just doesn't " fit " an

individual situation.

> Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the cleanses.

> Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 liver

> flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above if it

> has not so far?

***Like I said, I think you're doing a fine job. There is nothing unwise

about cleansing the body then supplementing it with it's nutritional

demands. Are you taking digestive enzymes? The suggestion of taking

Co-Q10 and flax seems to be excellent to me. Don't know if you're taking

this, but coral calcium has many minerals in it, also. And even plain ol'

progesterone is suppose to be good for the brain. Immunocal is great for

the immune system. And often people forget the simple water cure with sea

salt. So simple, yet so overlooked!

> I appreciate and am grateful for all replies.

> Thank you so very much for listening.

***I'm sure you will get much good and sound advice here. I just wanted to

encourage you; after you get all the advice, just take some time to digest

it all so that it won't be " overwhelming " . Then after weighing all the

advice, and with some education, trust your own intuition. People often

forget how healing the intuition can be. And you are very welcome about the

listening to you. NOW take some time and listen to yourself! )

>

Take care,

Gail

September 20, 2001

I think you fell into the hands of a naturopath or chiropractor. They're the

only ones who use such stuff. I'd forget it. No reason to be scared. It's a

money extraction machine. See if you can find success stories from others

who've used it, not the guys charging for it. There are more legitimate

methods of diagnosis.

Loren Parks

Update

> Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine

> Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to get this

> diagnosis.

> It is pretty scary to me.

> Not the test but the results.

> Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood,

Asbestos,

> Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. And my

> body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites.

> The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis.

> My brain remained unaffected by this treatment according to the feedback

from

> the machine.My brain and my eyes are effected the most.

> Her suggestions were to take the following

> 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

> 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat

> 3 adrenal support

> 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus

> 5 Mycrohydren

> 6 Crystal Energy

> 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy

> 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain

>

> In addition to this she wants me to take minerals,iodine,Bentonite,

Zinc,Flax

> Seed,CS,CoQ10.

>

> I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about

> Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should

know

> about before I get it?

> This is really overwhelming and scary to me.

> Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the cleanses.

> Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 liver

> flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above if it

> has not so far?

> I had 12 amalgam fillings replaced with caps 2 years ago and the dentist

was

> very sloppy. So I am not surprised to have this still in my system. The

> radiation must be from all the years I was flying.

> But the oxygen I do not understand. I drink ozonated water and use

Homozon.

> She says nothing gets absorbed in my system.

> I want to keep my brain and my eyes and am worried because I noticed

> deterioration in both.

> I still have an old root canal and 3 more amalgam fillings. And I don't

know

> what kind of metal is under the caps. But having all this dental work

redone

> is totally out of the question due to financial distress.

> Does this protocol above sound good to all you experts or what would you

do

> in my case.

> I appreciate and am grateful for all replies.

> Thank you so very much for listening.

> Christel

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher

or health care provider.

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September 21, 2001

May I just chime in here to say that this is about the

best advice I've seen to maintain health whether you

are coping with parasites or anything else.

Bubba

--- luckower@... wrote:

> christel-- sounds like you are sort of the same boat

> as me. here are my .02:

>

> concerning parasites, as i have posted over and over

> here, a 7 day cleanse or

> a 4 week cleanse is a ludicrous proposition. one

> expert in parasitology once

> told me that if you have one, then chances are you

> have a boatload. i have

> also heard this from a woman who has been

> administering colonics for many

> yeas and sees them every day. this has born out to

> be the truth in at least

> my case-- though i didn't want to believe either of

> them. i also think that

> the truth of parasites goes alot deeper than just go

> out and kill them. i

> have done 3 years of intense kinesiology testing and

> taken almost every

> product on the market and spent way too much money.

> i made progress but not

> enough. the natural evolution for me has been to

> move to the raw food diet--

> which according to aajonus v will take care of most

> of the problems you

> mentioned. i find my body so much more receptive to

> raw foods than to

> supplements-- even when properly tested with

> kinesiology. i also do ozone

> saunas. so all my money is currently on ozone sauna

> and raw foods. in years

> of searching this is the best thing i have come up

> with. it's also very

> simple.

>

> according to aajonus, immunizations are a more

> potent source of mercury

> poisoning than amalgams. though since you had 12 --

> i dont know. i would

> recommend however that you stabilize your energy and

> diet before getting the

> remaining fillings replaced. once i had mine out, it

> was like a cascade-- my

> body just shifted in detox mode that still has not

> ended many years later.

> mercury seems to be a very complicated subject and

> very unique to the

> individual. i talked recently with a chinese

> educated western doc. he

> recommended eating liver as the best way to deal

> with mercury as ultimately

> the liver is the organ tha has to detoxify it.

> aajonus recommends berries

> with raw cream as a merc detox. the vit c binds the

> metal and the fat escorts

> it to the bowel. i do believe that fats are

> important in mercury detox and i

> suspect that the people who damage themselves

> irreparably did not eat enough

> fat to protect their nervous system. this is just a

> personal belief.

>

> anyway, dont give in to fear of your problem.

> occam's razor: the simplest

> solution will be the most effective

>

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September 21, 2001

Christel,

I know your background and it sounds like this machine was right on--and

that is scary. All of these symptoms can be attributed to your

exposure....and I also have the brain and eye affects.

Please let us know if you try any of these therapies, and your results with

them.

Patty

Update

> Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine

> Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to get this

> diagnosis.

> It is pretty scary to me.

> Not the test but the results.

> Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood,

Asbestos,

> Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. And my

> body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites.

> The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis.

> My brain remained unaffected by this treatment according to the feedback

from

> the machine.My brain and my eyes are effected the most.

> Her suggestions were to take the following

> 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

> 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat

> 3 adrenal support

> 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus

> 5 Mycrohydren

> 6 Crystal Energy

> 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy

> 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain

>

> In addition to this she wants me to take minerals,iodine,Bentonite,

Zinc,Flax

> Seed,CS,CoQ10.

>

> I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about

> Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should

know

> about before I get it?

> This is really overwhelming and scary to me.

> Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the cleanses.

> Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 liver

> flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above if it

> has not so far?

> I had 12 amalgam fillings replaced with caps 2 years ago and the dentist

was

> very sloppy. So I am not surprised to have this still in my system. The

> radiation must be from all the years I was flying.

> But the oxygen I do not understand. I drink ozonated water and use

Homozon.

> She says nothing gets absorbed in my system.

> I want to keep my brain and my eyes and am worried because I noticed

> deterioration in both.

> I still have an old root canal and 3 more amalgam fillings. And I don't

know

> what kind of metal is under the caps. But having all this dental work

redone

> is totally out of the question due to financial distress.

> Does this protocol above sound good to all you experts or what would you

do

> in my case.

> I appreciate and am grateful for all replies.

> Thank you so very much for listening.

> Christel

September 21, 2001

> Update

> > Her suggestions were to take the following

> > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

> > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat

> > 3 adrenal support

> > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus

> > 5 Mycrohydren

> > 6 Crystal Energy

> > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy

> > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain

> > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about

> > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should

> > know about before I get it?

From everything I hear, Microhydrin is an excellent (almost miraculous)

product. That alone may help you enormously.

Good luck.

Nina

September 21, 2001

> Update

> > Her suggestions were to take the following

> > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

> > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat

> > 3 adrenal support

> > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus

> > 5 Mycrohydren

> > 6 Crystal Energy

> > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy

> > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain

> > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about

> > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should

> > know about before I get it?

From everything I hear, Microhydrin is an excellent (almost miraculous)

product. That alone may help you enormously.

Good luck.

Nina

September 21, 2001

The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter,

Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999:

High on ions, short on facts

As we noted in August, some distributors of the cure-all supplement

Microhydrin have been claiming that the Wellness Letter " reviewed and

approved " it. This claim is bogus. The hard-sell multi-level marketing

campaign (via the Internet and audio- and videotapes) for Microhydrin raises

many other red flags.

Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor,

Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize

nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He claims

that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by

the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over 100

and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special minerals

and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the

ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals). Tap

water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen ions.

Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative

hydrogen ions.

The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it

supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known

antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the

century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay,

asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it.

The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was

cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a scorpion

was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that is

boosts his energy.

Scence Fiction

Of course, there is no such thing as a cure-all. Still, prospective buyers

may yearn to believe in the promises. It is hard not to be overwhelmed by

all the scientific jargon and charts presented in support of Microhydrin on

the Internet, on the tapes, and in the brochures. But the " science " is

fiction, and the chemistry all wrong.

Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr. Pryor,

director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a

leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it

reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells

and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The

explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole

idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let

along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other

experts we consulted agreed.

Words to the wise: Increasingly, " nutritional supplements " are being promoted

with piles of technical, pseudo-scientific gobbledygook. Don't fall for such

products - especially on the Internet - however enthusiastic the multi-level

marketers or " Nobel prize nominees " may be.

Nina Silver wrote:

> > Update

> > > Her suggestions were to take the following

> > > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro

> > > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat

> > > 3 adrenal support

> > > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus

> > > 5 Mycrohydren

> > > 6 Crystal Energy

> > > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy

> > > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain

> > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about

> > > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should

> > > know about before I get it?

>

> >From everything I hear, Microhydrin is an excellent (almost miraculous)

> product. That alone may help you enormously.

>

> Good luck.

> Nina

>

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September 21, 2001

Re: Update

I don't have a lot of time, but wanted to address a few assertions,

excerpted below.

> The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness

Letter,

> Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999:

My personal experience with " wellness newsletter " from universities is that

they are not worth the paper they're printed on, since universities are

financed by the pharmaceutical industry.

> Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor,

> Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize

> nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He

claims

> that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by

> the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over

100

> and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special

minerals

> and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the

> ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals).

Tap

> water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen

ions.

> Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative

> hydrogen ions.

If there's no such thing as a " Nobel Prize nominee, " tell that to various

scientific organizations and the New York Times. This is horse manure.

> The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it

> supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known

> antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the

> century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay,

> asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it.

> The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was

> cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a

scorpion

> was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that

is

> boosts his energy.

This refute is typical of linear allopathic thinking. But the same microbes,

and similar body conditions, can be responsible for MANY different disease

states.

> Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr.

Pryor,

> director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a

> leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it

> reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells

> and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The

> explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole

> idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let

> along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other

> experts we consulted agreed.

I recently began consulting with a Ph.D. chemist, a water expert on water

electrolysis. The guy quoted above is in the dark ages with regard to water.

Loren, I have a question for you: Are you simply reporting another side to

this Microhydrin story, or is there another reason for posting this?

Regards,

Nina Silver, Ph.D.

The 400-page *Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com

September 21, 2001

Loren wrote:

I think you fell into the hands of a naturopath or chiropractor. They're the

only ones who use such stuff. I'd forget it. No reason to be scared. It's a

money extraction machine. See if you can find success stories from others

who've used it, not the guys charging for it. There are more legitimate

methods of diagnosis.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I second, third, fourth and fifth that! Along with luck's advice to

not let the fear get you. " Diagnoses " , from mainstream OR alternative

practitioners, can affect your body negatively, on the quite literal and

physical level.

I'm not even sure myself whether " diagnosis " is always or even usually

necessary. What you want is a healthy body, and to do the things that

promote that. And to think the thoughts that promote that. Don't live

in fear, and don't make decision from fear. And don't let anyone else's

fear-based systems be your guide. I have personally not found other

people's opinions of what I needed to do all that helpful...and sometimes

the opposite. I at one time was tested by three people at different times

(within a month period) on the same machine...and all found very different

things. It was a hoot...and very helpful in putting things into perspective.

We all have marvelous and wonderous bodies, created to self-heal. Along

the path of self-healing many things present themselves to be done, at

the right time. So I follow what my intuition tells me. Taking back power

means more than just shifting it from mainstream to alternative. It

means shifting it from outside to inside. It takes awhile...it is an

ongoing journey...but in the end it's the only journey, at least for

me.

I'm reading an article from an old Yoga Journal called MY HEALING

JOURNEY THROUGH CHRONIC FATIGUE. Here's a few excerpts:

" I gradually surrendered trying to fight or be 'in charge' of my

illness. Instead I began to take care of myself--which I was only

then recognizing as an entirely different process. <snip>

" The guidance I sought came almost immediately, first in the form

of a new curiosity. <snip> I needed to develop more points of view

--even if some of them seemed to give me contradictory information. "

Perhaps you can see this " diagnosis " as simply another point of view...

but one which you do not have to accept. I have benefited greatly by

walking away from the opinions and the diagnosis of others, including

and especially " experts " . I let very few people have that priviledge

in my life.

It takes awhile to learn to take care of oneself. At first I think

we all want to fight the symptoms, to just fix it g-d-it...<smile>

Taking care of oneself...now that's something to think about.

Best wishes...

~^^V^^~

September 22, 2001

With respect to Nina's rebuttal of my post (below)

I am simply posting what I found in googl. I go there to find other

people's experiences with particular therapies.

Question: Is your PhD in science? From an accredited school ? I am not accusing,

just want to know if you have a legitimate 7 or 8 year degree in science. I have

only a B.A. from the U. of Minn., 6 years of college.

I manufacture medical diagnostic instruments (vascular disease and monitoring

blood flow) of which several tens of thousands are used in medical centers all

over the world (Doppler Ultrasound). So with almost 60 years in electronics and

2 years of college chemistry, I do spout off about stuff that looks like scams,

especially electronic or electrical scams.

And having witnessed how powerful the placebo effect can be by ferrying over a

hundred people to " healers " in the Philippines for " psychic surgery " I'm pretty

well versed in that field as well. Properly administered, the placebo is

certainly one of the most powerful healing methods existing, in use thru the

ages.

I am sincerely interested in hearing from people cured of chronic diseases.

That's why I'm on this newsgroup. I also do not like people who peddle worthless

remedies. So without passing judgement, I simply try to find an opposing

experience for things like Willard water, Rife Machines, Zappers, Synchrometers,

cell salts, etc.

The victims of many nostrums are often those who really can't afford to be

deceived. So that's where I'm coming from. I have nothing to sell or promote.

Loren

Nina Silver wrote:

> Re: Update

>

> I don't have a lot of time, but wanted to address a few assertions,

> excerpted below.

>

> > The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness

> Letter,

> > Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999:

>

> My personal experience with " wellness newsletter " from universities is that

> they are not worth the paper they're printed on, since universities are

> financed by the pharmaceutical industry.

>

> > Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor,

> > Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize

> > nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He

> claims

> > that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by

> > the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over

> 100

> > and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special

> minerals

> > and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the

> > ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals).

> Tap

> > water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen

> ions.

> > Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative

> > hydrogen ions.

>

> If there's no such thing as a " Nobel Prize nominee, " tell that to various

> scientific organizations and the New York Times. This is horse manure.

>

> > The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it

> > supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known

> > antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the

> > century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay,

> > asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it.

> > The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was

> > cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a

> scorpion

> > was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that

> is

> > boosts his energy.

>

> This refute is typical of linear allopathic thinking. But the same microbes,

> and similar body conditions, can be responsible for MANY different disease

> states.

>

> > Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr.

> Pryor,

> > director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a

> > leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it

> > reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells

> > and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The

> > explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole

> > idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let

> > along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other

> > experts we consulted agreed.

>

> I recently began consulting with a Ph.D. chemist, a water expert on water

> electrolysis. The guy quoted above is in the dark ages with regard to water.

>

> Loren, I have a question for you: Are you simply reporting another side to

> this Microhydrin story, or is there another reason for posting this?

>

> Regards,

> Nina Silver, Ph.D.

>

> The 400-page *Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

> Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health

care provider.

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September 22, 2001

LIVE FOOD - MAN'S BEST NUTRITIONAL SOLUTION - Part 3

This is the One Hundredth and Nineteenth Issue

of our online Newsletter, " Spirit of Health. "

We bring you articles which are usually outside

the conventional medical school of thought,

and can be useful to the independent minded

individual in taking full responsibility for their

body's health.

An online version of this Newsletter, plus records of all

of the back issues of the Newsletters, can be viewed by clicking -

http://www.healthfree.com/health/newsletter/index.html

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Live Food: Man's Best Nutritional Solution - Part 3

In my opinion, this article is one of the most important ones

we have on our website. It was originally issued as a Newsletter

over a year ago. The research and writing of it was done for HFR

by Larry Spencer. Subsequently, it was used as part of a book

titled, " The OZ Factors " - toto@...

____________________

Many more folks have come on board to receive these Newletters since

then, so we are issuing it again at this time. It covers the full gamut

of wisdom that we have sought to teach others in terms of nutritional

based health programs. It is long and for this reason we have divided

it up into smaller bite sized pieces. The entirety of this article which can

referenced by clicking on the following:

http://www.healthfree.com/nutrition/nutrition/index.html

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The subject headings are in this order:

YOU TOO, CAN REBUILD YOUR VERY OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM...

LIVE FOOD DIET AND LIFESTYLE

PROTEIN: FACT AND FICTION

PROTEIN AND HEALTH

HOW MUCH PROTEIN IS " ENOUGH " ?

____________________

YOU TOO, CAN REBUILD YOUR VERY OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM

IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR OWN HOME!

Just like a car engine which has been using the wrong fuel,

a human body which has been using dead fuel for a period

of time begins to " die " . Death of the body begins when the white

lymphocytes or white blood cells of the body can not get rid of

the toxic waste materials left behind from the use of dead fuel.

When too many cells die, the whole body dies. Fortunately, the body

has the ability to replace every single cell with a brand new copy of

itself every year or so. Due to the continuous cell renewal effort of

the body, we can recover from disease and improve the quality of

the body - provided we are using the correct fuel and not adding too

many toxic substances into the environment of the living cells. You can

prevent illness from bacteria and degenerative diseases and rid yourself

of illness simply by changing the kind of fuel you consume. Rebuilding

healthy cells requires the following SIX conditions:

1) POSITIVE SPIRITUAL ENVIRONMENT

Cells have feelings too. A cell is a living organism which communicates

with all other cells. It can be demonstrated that individual cells become

upset or depressed by your spiritual mood or by upsetting events in

the environment around them. When cells are upset or depressed they

don't do their jobs well.

2) LIVING FUEL

Living fuel means organic fuel. Cells need to be fed live food which

contain unheated or processed enzymes. The food must be free of toxic

substances such as pesticides, preservatives and irradiation. In order for

cells to create protein to build your body they need all 22 amino acids.

They need all the vitamins and all the trace minerals available in raw fruits

and vegetables, and ocean vegetables such as kelp and dulce. They also

need essential oils found in live food oils (nuts, olives, seeds, etc.).

3) TOXIN-FREE WATER

The body is more than 70% water. Coincidentally, raw fruits and vegatables

are also composed of 70% water. All of the cells of the body need clean

water.

The water must be free from contaminates such as the poisonous chemicals

put in the municipal water systems of about one-half of US cities: chlorine

and fluoride. Both of these chemicals actually cause cancer. Drink only

distilled water from glass containers. Plastic containers may cause a toxic

chemical reaction with the water, especially when exposed to sunlight.

4) OXYGEN

Mixing heat with oxygen and fuel causes combustion, which produces

energy. We use exercise to get oxygen into the body and get the oxygen

to circulate through the blood so that it can carry nutrition to the cells.

This requires three types of exercise: aerobic (oxygenating) exercise,

strength exercises and lymphatic stimulation. Walking, running, stretching,

deep breathing exercises and nearly every active sport get more oxygen

into the body.

5) CIRCULATION TO CARRY NUTRIENTS IN THE BLOOD TO ALL PARTS OF THE BODY

Living fuel and oxygen provide the energy for the cells. This energy is

used to build new cells and to clean the body of toxins such as dead fuel,

waste, toxic chemicals, viruses and radiation. For the fuel and oxygen to

get to the cells, they must be carried throughout the entire body by the

blood. Physical activity gets the blood moving throughout the body.

Research indicates that using a " rebounder " supplies all of the needs for

exercise without detrimental side effects. Rebound exercise accomplishes

the following: Gets nutrients to the cells via the blood Improves circulation

which helps take waste away from the cells for elimination Uses gravity to

help " pump " fluids through the cell walls, which helps get nutrients into

and waste out of the cells

6) WASTE ELIMINATION

The byproduct of burning fuel is waste material, like smoke and ash. Often

the fuel itself IS waste material as far as the engine in concerned. For

example, would you put sugar in the gas tank of your car? Would you pour

grease and toxic sludge into your gas tank? You don't because the engine

treats it as waste. It won't burn and so must be eliminated. Too much waste

clogs up the engine and it stops running. This principle extends to food as

well. Eating dead food forces your body to work hard to push the waste out.

This processs takes a tremendous amount your energy, and leaves you feeling

sluggish. Human bodies treat dead, toxic fuel, like cooked meat, as waste.

THE LIVE FOOD DIET AND LIFESTYLE

The Live Food Diet is not a " diet " in the traditional sense. It is really a

lifestyle

change which is a program of nutrition, exercise and detoxification through

colon cleansing. The " diet " was developed by Dr. Malkmus as a means

to rid himself of colon cancer. The program not only rid Dr. Malkmus of a

cancer tumor the size of a baseball in his colon, but handled many other

unwanted symptoms too. Since 1976 nearly a million people have started

to follow the Live Food Diet created by Dr. Malkmus. Tens of thousands of

people have provided testimonials stating that they have been relieved of

nearly every conceivable unwanted body condition, not the least of which

are cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, and

arthritis. The program is simple. Consume only raw, organic, uncooked fruits

and vegetables AND freshly squeezed fruit and vegetable juices, especially

carrot juice. Get daily exercise, fresh air and sunshine, and drink only

distilled

water. Try it for 21 days and see for yourself the difference that living

fuel

makes in your engine!

BUT, IT TASTES SO GOOD...

There are some of us who can have some difficulty stopping our old habits of

eating dead " junk " food. These old habits are based on learned behavior and

agreements we've been taught since we were little kids. For example, we

were taught by our parents and teachers to " eat your meat and drink your

milk so you'll grow up to be big and strong " . We were taught that

" Wonderbread " builds strong bodies 12 ways! " Factually, The Meat Industry,

The Dairy Industry, The Poultry Industry, and the Baked Goods Industry have

bought and paid for most of the " nutritional " training in our public school

systems for the past 70 years or more. We were taught about

the " 4 Basic Food Groups " -- of course, THREE of those groups were products

represented by those commercial vested interests.

Most of our " nutritional " education has come from very expensive television

and magazine advertisements that teach you to want to eat the charred flesh

of a dead cow smoldering on a white flour bun which has had every speck of

life and nutritional value ground and bleached out of it which will cause

your

cells to mutate into cancerous tumors which will eat your body alive until

you

die in excruciating pain! Now we're supposed to follow this up with potatoes

that have been frozen to death and then boiled alive in scalding, rancid oil

which will make your veins clog up with sludge and cause you to die of an

agonizingly painful heart attack! The final touch is a glass of carbonated

tap

water filled with toxic chlorine and fluorine gas which has been mixed with

11 teaspoons or more of dead, nutrition-free, refined white sugar and

artificial flavoring. Now, they tell us with a happy, smiling clown face that

we're supposed to believe that this is a " balanced diet " and that it TASTES

GOOD!! ( Robbins, " Diet For A New America " Video)

If you're looking for somebody to blame for all this " nutritional " nonsense,

try looking in the bathroom mirror first. In the immortal words of W.C.

Fields, " there's a sucker born every minute " .

It's time we stop believing the sales pitch of the muti-billion dollar a year

commercial vested interests and start taking control of our own minds!

That means taking control of our own eating choices, our own bodies

and our own lives! The more healthy your body becomes, the more you

will find joy in the delightful flavor and fragrance of " living foods " .

PROTEIN: Fact & Fiction

" Never have so many been so confused over a subject about which they

know so little. " The word " protein " is derived from the Greek language

and means " of primary importance " . Amino Acids, the component parts

of protein, are the biochemical basis for life and are required by every

cell.

The immune systemâ€™s antibodies are protein. Endrocine hormones are

protein. The cement that holds our cells together is made of protein.

STRENGTH AND STAMINA: THE GREAT MEAT MYTH

What do the following World Champion athletes all have in common,

besides strength and endurance? They must be big meat eaters, right?

Henry â€“ All Time Baseball Home Run Champion

Dave - 6-time winner of the Ironman Triathlon (the only man to win

it more than twice!)

Sixto Linares - World Record holder in the 24-hour Triathlon

Paavo Nurmi - 20 World Records and 9 Olympic Medals in distance running

Stan Price - World Record holder in the Bench Press

s Cahling - Mr. International Body Building Champion

Roy Hilligan - Mr. America Body Building Champion

Ridgely Abele - 8-Time National Champion in Karate

All of these athletes are VEGETARIANS! There are many, many more top

athletes who have discovered that eating meat decreases strength and stamina.

The strongest animals on Earth are also vegetarians: Elephants, oxen, horses,

mules, camels, water buffalo, etc. The Silverback Gorilla is 3-times the size

of a man and is 30-times stronger! A Silverback Gorilla is so strong it could

throw a 200-pound man across the street like a Frizbee! What does a gorilla

eat? Raw fruit and vegetables.

Robbins, in his book, Diet for a New America, reports that " ...study

after study has found that protein combustion is no higher during exercise

than under resting conditions. "

The Journal of the American Medical Association in 1978 warns athletes

(and non-athletes) against taking protein supplements, stating " Athletes

need the same amount of protein foods as non-athletes. Protein does not

increase strength. Indeed, it often takes greater energy to digest

and metabolize the excess protein. "

PROTEIN AND HEALTH

It has been known for decades that populations consuming high-protein,

meat-based diets have higher cancer rates and lower life-spans

(averaging as low as 30 to 40 years), compared to cultures subsisting on

low-protein vegetarian diets. Some of these have lifespans of more than

90 years.

Dr. Leaf published the findings of his research about the oldest

people in the world in the January, 1973 edition of National Geographic

Magazine. He found that the three most consistently disease-free

and long-lived people on Earth are the Abkhazians of Russia, the

Vilacabambans

of Ecuador and the Hunzukuts of Pakistan. None of these peoples suffer from

Western diseases: NO obesity, NO cancer, NO heart disease! On the average

these people live to be over 100 years old. The men are physically active

and still fathering children at 100 years of age.

The diet of all of these people consists of 70-80 percent high-water-content

foods such as raw, uncooked fruits and vegetables. These people eat very

little or no animal products.

Meat protein is the most difficult food for the body to digest. The average

time for food (other than fruit) to pass through the entire gastrointestinal

tract is between 25 and 30 hours. When meat is eaten, that time is more

than doubled!

Research published in the New England Journal of Medicine, in September,

1982 states, " undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys.

This unnecessary work stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually

lesions are developed and tissues begin to harden. "

In the colon, this excess protein waste putrefies into toxic substances,

some of which are absorbed in the bloodstream. The University of Illinois

Medical School reports that " A high protein diet also breaks down

the pancreas and lowers resistance to cancer as well as contributes to

the development of diabetes. "

HOW MUCH PROTEIN IS " ENOUGH "

Human motherâ€™s milk contains no more than 5% protein. This is enough

protein to enable an infant to double itâ€™s weight and size during the first

6 months of life! After that, the need for protein DECREASES. Independent

researchers around the world agree that the human need for protein each

day is only 25 - 35 GRAMS. (about 1 ounce). Many nutritionists feel that only

20 grams a day are more than enough. Meanwhile, the AVERAGE AMERICAN

eats more than 100 GRAMS of protean a day - 5 times the actual need!

Reports in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition say that people do not

need to consume more than 2.5% of their daily calorie intake from protein.

Even the World Health Organization says people need more than 4.5% calories

from protein.

So how many calories are provided from protein in common raw fruits

and vegetables?

SPINACH = 49%

BROCCOLI = 45%

CAULIFLOWER = 40%

LETTUCE = 34%

PEAS = 30%

GREEN BEANS = 26%

CUCUMBERS = 24%

CELERY = 21%

POTATOES = 11%

SWEET POTATOES = 6%

HONEYDEW MELON = 10%

CANTALOUPE = 9%

STRAWBERRIES = 8%

ORANGES = 8%

WATERMELON = 8%

PEACHES = 6%

BANANAS = 5%

PEARS = 5%

__________________________

We hope you enjoyed this information and find it useful.

September 22, 2001

dear loren: you perform an invaluable service in simply presenting evidence

contrary to the many specious claims health fadits make. thank you for your

dedication to the cause of balanced perspective.

Re: Update

>

> I don't have a lot of time, but wanted to address a few assertions,

> excerpted below.

>

> > The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness

> Letter,

> > Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999:

>

> My personal experience with " wellness newsletter " from universities is that

> they are not worth the paper they're printed on, since universities are

> financed by the pharmaceutical industry.

>

> > Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor,

> > Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize

> > nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He

> claims

> > that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by

> > the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over

> 100

> > and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special

> minerals

> > and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the

> > ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals).

> Tap

> > water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen

> ions.

> > Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative

> > hydrogen ions.

>

> If there's no such thing as a " Nobel Prize nominee, " tell that to various

> scientific organizations and the New York Times. This is horse manure.

>

> > The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it

> > supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known

> > antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the

> > century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay,

> > asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it.

> > The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was

> > cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a

> scorpion

> > was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that

> is

> > boosts his energy.

>

> This refute is typical of linear allopathic thinking. But the same microbes,

> and similar body conditions, can be responsible for MANY different disease

> states.

>

> > Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr.

> Pryor,

> > director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a

> > leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it

> > reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells

> > and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The

> > explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole

> > idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let

> > along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other

> > experts we consulted agreed.

>

> I recently began consulting with a Ph.D. chemist, a water expert on water

> electrolysis. The guy quoted above is in the dark ages with regard to water.

>

> Loren, I have a question for you: Are you simply reporting another side to

> this Microhydrin story, or is there another reason for posting this?

>

> Regards,

> Nina Silver, Ph.D.

>

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February 27, 2002

Hi Marcel, Thank you for keeping us updated on your daughter's progress. It is

always so wonderful when with the help of a skilled therapist, our children

begin to take back control of their minds and bodies and OCD doesn't rule them

or us! Keep up the good work! in Southeastern PA

Marcel Rutten wrote: I wanted to give an update of

what happened sins last week. We were having a

hard time with our oldest daughter bedtime routine. She thinks that she

urinate on everything. So at bed time it gets even worse. We had a few night

that we were up pretty much all night, and we were very tired during the

day. So we talked on Monday with the therapist and she said that we need to

hang in there. As long we are consistent with the plan this all will get

better in a few weeks. The therapist also told our daughter that getting

angry at us was not going to help her. To make a long story short, That

night our daughter went to sleep without our help, she slept through the

night and the next day she started to keep track of how she was doing She

went to the bathroom without wiping herself, she started to do her exercises

or homework. Last night she woke up at 2:00 o' clock, she got angry yelled a

while but calmed down after about 30 minutes. The next 30 min she made some

more charts and went to bed. So we are very excited, because she is taking

charge here to help her self. I know we still have to go a long hard way,

but it feels good to see glimpses of improvement. Last night she went even

to bed without wiping, what is very hard for her to do especially at

bedtime. Today she is going to see her therapist again and she is excited to

show her all her charts. What seems like hell a week ago is now clearing up

slowly. So I thank you for all the help and support you have given us and I

thank the people who have talked to my wife to comfort her, but most of all

I thank GOD for giving us strength, patience, and endurance through these

hard times. So for the people who are just starting the therapy, hang in

there follow the plan and pray a lot.

February 27, 2002