Guest guest Posted February 15, 2000 Report Share Posted February 15, 2000 No, can't say that I have... I live in Mishawaka Indiana cc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2000 Report Share Posted October 23, 2000 Kay, Glad to hear from you. I was thinking about you and your family just yesterday. I'm also happy to hear everything you going well in your house. sounds like she is doing great! Crawling! WOW! I know when grandma is there it's alot of help for you. Thank God for grandma's huh? I know you are glad the feeding tube is out. I never had to go through that with either of mine. Hope you have a good week. Pam mom to Hannah and both DS. --- " Tiernan, Kay " <kay.tiernan@...> wrote: > > Gail, " so overwhelmed you can't think " is my line > with the triplets! > :~) > > Judi, thanks for checking up on us. Things are > actually going well for my > family. is doing well. Been off the NG tube for > almost a month now. She > is just starting to gain weight. She is such a happy > girl. Her parents are > too! I told Tom that I feel like we've gotten our > lives back since the > feeding pump has been gone. She is now crawling > everywhere and can even > crawl up a couple steps! She is sitting up playing > now and will crawl over > or crawl onto her siblings for toys or to play with > them. She has this > fetish for hair! :~) Loves to pull her sister's hair > and just > hates it. I can say, " Here comes , " and she will > quickly turn to see if > is near her head. tries to help her > drink from his sippy cup > and always brings her a burp cloth. Since > she has been off the > tube and we're not pumping as much formula in her, > her reflux has really > dissipated. I think getting vertical more is helping > as well. I think > Carolyn said that helped hers. My parents just left > after a two week visit > and Grandma Dorothy is coming back to visit for the > month of November. We're > very excited about that. Might not let her leave! > Last she saw the kids, > had taken her first steps. > > I've missed talking with all of you! > Kay, Mom to , , -ds, 19 mos. > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > > http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2001 Report Share Posted January 5, 2001 It is funny. I read about your lives and I think it sounds tough. I am sure people look at my life and think the same. I hear so many comments about having 4 kids ages 4 and younger, yet I don't think it is that tough. I have moments that I want to scream and run away but when I think it through, I don't know where I would run. Maggie doesn't have any behaivor issues that are dangerous or even annoying. She is the nicest little girl who laughs easily and is basically content. She likes to play with her things, watch Elmo, play with Mommy (when I can) and watch her siblings act weird. She is so interactive and smart! She can solve any problems that presents itself to her. I know she is only 2 and we have many years to go and many things to experience but right now I am so happy with her. I am on a high as I had an awesome meeting with her speech therapist today. She is using words to express her needs, ie: No, juice, cookie, Pooh (to get a Winnie the Pooh stamp). She has always "spoke" at home but is reluctant to at playgroup. She has finally broke out of her shell! Hurray! I am going to NY this weekend with only Teddy to visit my parents. It will be like a mini vacation. Yippee. My husband always appreciates me so much more after I have left him with the kids for a day or two. Have a great weekend, Quinn 4, Sara and Maggie 2, Teddy 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 , So sorry to hear of your Aunts passing.........glad did not get a diagnosis of Autism. My nephew, who is 10yrs old, is autistic, and moderetly so.......he's my older sisters 2nd son....................you can imagin the pain for my father in hearing the news about Tara's diagnosis after her birth, after feeling my sisters struggles and frustrations all these years, I know shortly after he found out, he " yelled " up to heaven, " why my daughters Lord? " " You are really testing us! " Anyway.....................as always, best of luck to our friends from Canada! Gail.......Mom to Bobby{7 yrs old tomorrow!}Jillian 4 1/2, and Tara > > Hi Everyone; > > OMG, Judi...I forgot to say Happy B-day to S & P....sooo sorry. > Anyhow...HAPPY BELATED B-DAY Sam & . > > My aunt did die last Sunday. The funeral was this past > Wednesday....the church was FULL. Sad day. > > Nicala's eczema is basically gone....this study drug lotion is > AMAZING. Bad news is that on Friday Nicala started throwing up, had a > chest x-ray and has pneumonia. Her hard wood floor STILL hasn't been > put in. > > Saw the specialist and does not have autism and I don't think > he will ever get that diagnosis. He may however (but not at the > present) be given the diagnosis of PDD. He does display some autistic > mannerisms but the Dr. believes they are because of his inability to > communicate. Just his past week he has started becoming physically > aggressive with his sisters....e.g.. biting, pulling their clothes and > pulling their hair. > > as Tiger would say....TTFN (ta ta for now); > > , mom to 27 weeker twins Nicala & ,ds (now 4) and > (2) > > eGroups Sponsor > [Click Here!] > > http://DSyndrome.com/Multiples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2001 Report Share Posted January 14, 2001 : So sorry to hear about your Aunt. Gosh, poor Nicala, when it rains, it pours!! Glad to hear her eczema cleared up quickly. Hope she recovers quicky from the pneumonia!! S & P say " thanks " for the b-day wishes! Will have some pictures to post here (probably not until Tuesday, tho!). Sounds like you have a lot going on, hang in there! Judi __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 christel-- sounds like you are sort of the same boat as me. here are my .02: concerning parasites, as i have posted over and over here, a 7 day cleanse or a 4 week cleanse is a ludicrous proposition. one expert in parasitology once told me that if you have one, then chances are you have a boatload. i have also heard this from a woman who has been administering colonics for many yeas and sees them every day. this has born out to be the truth in at least my case-- though i didn't want to believe either of them. i also think that the truth of parasites goes alot deeper than just go out and kill them. i have done 3 years of intense kinesiology testing and taken almost every product on the market and spent way too much money. i made progress but not enough. the natural evolution for me has been to move to the raw food diet-- which according to aajonus v will take care of most of the problems you mentioned. i find my body so much more receptive to raw foods than to supplements-- even when properly tested with kinesiology. i also do ozone saunas. so all my money is currently on ozone sauna and raw foods. in years of searching this is the best thing i have come up with. it's also very simple. according to aajonus, immunizations are a more potent source of mercury poisoning than amalgams. though since you had 12 -- i dont know. i would recommend however that you stabilize your energy and diet before getting the remaining fillings replaced. once i had mine out, it was like a cascade-- my body just shifted in detox mode that still has not ended many years later. mercury seems to be a very complicated subject and very unique to the individual. i talked recently with a chinese educated western doc. he recommended eating liver as the best way to deal with mercury as ultimately the liver is the organ tha has to detoxify it. aajonus recommends berries with raw cream as a merc detox. the vit c binds the metal and the fat escorts it to the bowel. i do believe that fats are important in mercury detox and i suspect that the people who damage themselves irreparably did not eat enough fat to protect their nervous system. this is just a personal belief. anyway, dont give in to fear of your problem. occam's razor: the simplest solution will be the most effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 Hello, I suggest you talk to another qxci tester.... the machine is not to be taken so literally..... but... to give a sense of possible direction to take and also a consideration of possible problems. If you get on the qxci discussion group.... then I believe you will be put at ease. " quantumqxci and they handle questions, " Mike Slivinski ps how do I know this to be true.... well I was helping the american rep, a long time rep and trainer of the qxci a little over year ago when he was in that position. And had many a discussion with the accuracy of the qxci. Hope this group can help you. On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 20:27:24 EDT Christelti@... writes: > Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine > Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to > get this > diagnosis. > It is pretty scary to me. > Not the test but the results. > Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood, > Asbestos, > Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. > And my > body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites. > The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis. > My brain remained unaffected by this treatment according to the > feedback from > the machine.My brain and my eyes are effected the most. > Her suggestions were to take the following > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat > 3 adrenal support > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus > 5 Mycrohydren > 6 Crystal Energy > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain > > In addition to this she wants me to take minerals,iodine,Bentonite, > Zinc,Flax > Seed,CS,CoQ10. > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk > about > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I > should know > about before I get it? > This is really overwhelming and scary to me. > Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the > cleanses. > Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 > liver > flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above > if it > has not so far? > I had 12 amalgam fillings replaced with caps 2 years ago and the > dentist was > very sloppy. So I am not surprised to have this still in my system. > The > radiation must be from all the years I was flying. > But the oxygen I do not understand. I drink ozonated water and use > Homozon. > She says nothing gets absorbed in my system. > I want to keep my brain and my eyes and am worried because I noticed > > deterioration in both. > I still have an old root canal and 3 more amalgam fillings. And I > don't know > what kind of metal is under the caps. But having all this dental > work redone > is totally out of the question due to financial distress. > Does this protocol above sound good to all you experts or what would > you do > in my case. > I appreciate and am grateful for all replies. > Thank you so very much for listening. > Christel > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 Christelti@a... wrote: > I still have parasites. > The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis. What sort of Rife device is being used? Pad/contact or plasma tube? Is this a device that you own (so you can experiment with adding more frequencies and longer dwell times)? > Her suggestions were to take the following > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro Please, if you are going to detox (chelate) mercury, do it correctly, or you can make your situation worse. When you chelate mercury, you don't just remove it from your body, you move it around in your body. Because of this, you should do the following, in this order: 1) remove all sources of mercury from your body (eg. your amalgams) before you start chelating 2) use the chelating agents that don't cross the brain/blood barrier and get all of the mercury out of your body first 3) use the chelating agents that cross the brain/blood barrier and get all of the mercury out of your brain If you use chelating agents that cross the brain/blood barrier before you've cleared your body of mercury then you may move more mercury into your brain (say if your body has higher levels of mercury than your brain). This would be bad. This protocol is discussed, with names of the chelating agents, in: autism > But having all this dental work redone is totally out of > the question due to financial distress. I suggest that you go to the above group, and ask for advice there about your situation w.r.t. your fillings and mercury in your body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 ----- Original Message ----- Wrote: > Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine > Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to get this > diagnosis. > It is pretty scary to me. > Not the test but the results. Dear Christel, ***One of the problems I have with " tests " is the fact that they simply are not always accurate. I've found this to be true in traditional medicine, and I see no reason to believe otherwise with other " machines " . Reason being is it's only a machine. How I long for the days when a patient would be treated for themself and not for the " results " of the testing done on them. > Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood, Asbestos, > Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. And my > body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites. ***I guess I'm behind the group, but what are you treating yourself for that you know of before the test? Even if what the testing said is true in your case, it seems like it can be treated. Candida I'm sure you know how to treat. Parasites, really don't we all have them, and that is why we have to do a maintenance program? You've already gotten some really sound advice on mercury detoxing. > This is really overwhelming and scary to me. ***It always amazes me how everybody seems to have the answers for whatever ails us, or at least they seem to think so! I think you are doing a fine job. I think some of the fear is when we actually listen to them! LOL Not to be making light of their help, but sometimes it just doesn't " fit " an individual situation. > Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the cleanses. > Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 liver > flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above if it > has not so far? ***Like I said, I think you're doing a fine job. There is nothing unwise about cleansing the body then supplementing it with it's nutritional demands. Are you taking digestive enzymes? The suggestion of taking Co-Q10 and flax seems to be excellent to me. Don't know if you're taking this, but coral calcium has many minerals in it, also. And even plain ol' progesterone is suppose to be good for the brain. Immunocal is great for the immune system. And often people forget the simple water cure with sea salt. So simple, yet so overlooked! > I appreciate and am grateful for all replies. > Thank you so very much for listening. ***I'm sure you will get much good and sound advice here. I just wanted to encourage you; after you get all the advice, just take some time to digest it all so that it won't be " overwhelming " . Then after weighing all the advice, and with some education, trust your own intuition. People often forget how healing the intuition can be. And you are very welcome about the listening to you. NOW take some time and listen to yourself! ) > Take care, Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2001 Report Share Posted September 20, 2001 I think you fell into the hands of a naturopath or chiropractor. They're the only ones who use such stuff. I'd forget it. No reason to be scared. It's a money extraction machine. See if you can find success stories from others who've used it, not the guys charging for it. There are more legitimate methods of diagnosis. Loren Parks Update > Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine > Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to get this > diagnosis. > It is pretty scary to me. > Not the test but the results. > Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood, Asbestos, > Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. And my > body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites. > The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis. > My brain remained unaffected by this treatment according to the feedback from > the machine.My brain and my eyes are effected the most. > Her suggestions were to take the following > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat > 3 adrenal support > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus > 5 Mycrohydren > 6 Crystal Energy > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain > > In addition to this she wants me to take minerals,iodine,Bentonite, Zinc,Flax > Seed,CS,CoQ10. > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should know > about before I get it? > This is really overwhelming and scary to me. > Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the cleanses. > Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 liver > flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above if it > has not so far? > I had 12 amalgam fillings replaced with caps 2 years ago and the dentist was > very sloppy. So I am not surprised to have this still in my system. The > radiation must be from all the years I was flying. > But the oxygen I do not understand. I drink ozonated water and use Homozon. > She says nothing gets absorbed in my system. > I want to keep my brain and my eyes and am worried because I noticed > deterioration in both. > I still have an old root canal and 3 more amalgam fillings. And I don't know > what kind of metal is under the caps. But having all this dental work redone > is totally out of the question due to financial distress. > Does this protocol above sound good to all you experts or what would you do > in my case. > I appreciate and am grateful for all replies. > Thank you so very much for listening. > Christel > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 May I just chime in here to say that this is about the best advice I've seen to maintain health whether you are coping with parasites or anything else. Bubba --- luckower@... wrote: > christel-- sounds like you are sort of the same boat > as me. here are my .02: > > concerning parasites, as i have posted over and over > here, a 7 day cleanse or > a 4 week cleanse is a ludicrous proposition. one > expert in parasitology once > told me that if you have one, then chances are you > have a boatload. i have > also heard this from a woman who has been > administering colonics for many > yeas and sees them every day. this has born out to > be the truth in at least > my case-- though i didn't want to believe either of > them. i also think that > the truth of parasites goes alot deeper than just go > out and kill them. i > have done 3 years of intense kinesiology testing and > taken almost every > product on the market and spent way too much money. > i made progress but not > enough. the natural evolution for me has been to > move to the raw food diet-- > which according to aajonus v will take care of most > of the problems you > mentioned. i find my body so much more receptive to > raw foods than to > supplements-- even when properly tested with > kinesiology. i also do ozone > saunas. so all my money is currently on ozone sauna > and raw foods. in years > of searching this is the best thing i have come up > with. it's also very > simple. > > according to aajonus, immunizations are a more > potent source of mercury > poisoning than amalgams. though since you had 12 -- > i dont know. i would > recommend however that you stabilize your energy and > diet before getting the > remaining fillings replaced. once i had mine out, it > was like a cascade-- my > body just shifted in detox mode that still has not > ended many years later. > mercury seems to be a very complicated subject and > very unique to the > individual. i talked recently with a chinese > educated western doc. he > recommended eating liver as the best way to deal > with mercury as ultimately > the liver is the organ tha has to detoxify it. > aajonus recommends berries > with raw cream as a merc detox. the vit c binds the > metal and the fat escorts > it to the bowel. i do believe that fats are > important in mercury detox and i > suspect that the people who damage themselves > irreparably did not eat enough > fat to protect their nervous system. this is just a > personal belief. > > anyway, dont give in to fear of your problem. > occam's razor: the simplest > solution will be the most effective > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Christel, I know your background and it sounds like this machine was right on--and that is scary. All of these symptoms can be attributed to your exposure....and I also have the brain and eye affects. Please let us know if you try any of these therapies, and your results with them. Patty Update > Two days ago I got tested on the QXCI machine > Since I tried everything for so long without results I decided to get this > diagnosis. > It is pretty scary to me. > Not the test but the results. > Radiation, Mercury, Candida, Blockage in the digestive flow, Blood, Asbestos, > Kidney, Ulcerative Colitis, Allergies, Deficient in ascorbic acid. And my > body does not get enough oxygen. I still have parasites. > The rife frequencies were applied after the diagnosis. > My brain remained unaffected by this treatment according to the feedback from > the machine.My brain and my eyes are effected the most. > Her suggestions were to take the following > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat > 3 adrenal support > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus > 5 Mycrohydren > 6 Crystal Energy > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain > > In addition to this she wants me to take minerals,iodine,Bentonite, Zinc,Flax > Seed,CS,CoQ10. > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should know > about before I get it? > This is really overwhelming and scary to me. > Especially since I am taking so much already. And I did all the cleanses. > Colon, parasite, including the 3 week for tapeworm, kidney and 7 liver > flushes..How would I know if my system absorbes all the things above if it > has not so far? > I had 12 amalgam fillings replaced with caps 2 years ago and the dentist was > very sloppy. So I am not surprised to have this still in my system. The > radiation must be from all the years I was flying. > But the oxygen I do not understand. I drink ozonated water and use Homozon. > She says nothing gets absorbed in my system. > I want to keep my brain and my eyes and am worried because I noticed > deterioration in both. > I still have an old root canal and 3 more amalgam fillings. And I don't know > what kind of metal is under the caps. But having all this dental work redone > is totally out of the question due to financial distress. > Does this protocol above sound good to all you experts or what would you do > in my case. > I appreciate and am grateful for all replies. > Thank you so very much for listening. > Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 > Update > > Her suggestions were to take the following > > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro > > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat > > 3 adrenal support > > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus > > 5 Mycrohydren > > 6 Crystal Energy > > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy > > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about > > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should > > know about before I get it? From everything I hear, Microhydrin is an excellent (almost miraculous) product. That alone may help you enormously. Good luck. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 > Update > > Her suggestions were to take the following > > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro > > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat > > 3 adrenal support > > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus > > 5 Mycrohydren > > 6 Crystal Energy > > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy > > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about > > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should > > know about before I get it? From everything I hear, Microhydrin is an excellent (almost miraculous) product. That alone may help you enormously. Good luck. Nina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter, Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999: High on ions, short on facts As we noted in August, some distributors of the cure-all supplement Microhydrin have been claiming that the Wellness Letter " reviewed and approved " it. This claim is bogus. The hard-sell multi-level marketing campaign (via the Internet and audio- and videotapes) for Microhydrin raises many other red flags. Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor, Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He claims that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over 100 and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special minerals and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals). Tap water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen ions. Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative hydrogen ions. The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay, asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it. The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a scorpion was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that is boosts his energy. Scence Fiction Of course, there is no such thing as a cure-all. Still, prospective buyers may yearn to believe in the promises. It is hard not to be overwhelmed by all the scientific jargon and charts presented in support of Microhydrin on the Internet, on the tapes, and in the brochures. But the " science " is fiction, and the chemistry all wrong. Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr. Pryor, director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other experts we consulted agreed. Words to the wise: Increasingly, " nutritional supplements " are being promoted with piles of technical, pseudo-scientific gobbledygook. Don't fall for such products - especially on the Internet - however enthusiastic the multi-level marketers or " Nobel prize nominees " may be. Nina Silver wrote: > > Update > > > Her suggestions were to take the following > > > 1 detox mercury with > Dentastat <and Cilantro > > > 2 detox radiation with >Terristatat > > > 3 adrenal support > > > 4 Quaw Bark from Hanna Kroeger for fungus > > > 5 Mycrohydren > > > 6 Crystal Energy > > > 7 Treat blood metabolically or with genetic homeopathy > > > 8 Stimulate circulation to the brain > > > I am in need of some advise, especially on 7 and 8.I heard talk about > > > Mycrohydren. Is there a product that is better than others that I should > > > know about before I get it? > > >From everything I hear, Microhydrin is an excellent (almost miraculous) > product. That alone may help you enormously. > > Good luck. > Nina > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Re: Update I don't have a lot of time, but wanted to address a few assertions, excerpted below. > The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness Letter, > Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999: My personal experience with " wellness newsletter " from universities is that they are not worth the paper they're printed on, since universities are financed by the pharmaceutical industry. > Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor, > Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize > nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He claims > that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by > the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over 100 > and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special minerals > and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the > ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals). Tap > water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen ions. > Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative > hydrogen ions. If there's no such thing as a " Nobel Prize nominee, " tell that to various scientific organizations and the New York Times. This is horse manure. > The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it > supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known > antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the > century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay, > asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it. > The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was > cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a scorpion > was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that is > boosts his energy. This refute is typical of linear allopathic thinking. But the same microbes, and similar body conditions, can be responsible for MANY different disease states. > Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr. Pryor, > director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a > leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it > reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells > and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The > explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole > idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let > along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other > experts we consulted agreed. I recently began consulting with a Ph.D. chemist, a water expert on water electrolysis. The guy quoted above is in the dark ages with regard to water. Loren, I have a question for you: Are you simply reporting another side to this Microhydrin story, or is there another reason for posting this? Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. The 400-page *Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2001 Report Share Posted September 21, 2001 Loren wrote: I think you fell into the hands of a naturopath or chiropractor. They're the only ones who use such stuff. I'd forget it. No reason to be scared. It's a money extraction machine. See if you can find success stories from others who've used it, not the guys charging for it. There are more legitimate methods of diagnosis. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I second, third, fourth and fifth that! Along with luck's advice to not let the fear get you. " Diagnoses " , from mainstream OR alternative practitioners, can affect your body negatively, on the quite literal and physical level. I'm not even sure myself whether " diagnosis " is always or even usually necessary. What you want is a healthy body, and to do the things that promote that. And to think the thoughts that promote that. Don't live in fear, and don't make decision from fear. And don't let anyone else's fear-based systems be your guide. I have personally not found other people's opinions of what I needed to do all that helpful...and sometimes the opposite. I at one time was tested by three people at different times (within a month period) on the same machine...and all found very different things. It was a hoot...and very helpful in putting things into perspective. We all have marvelous and wonderous bodies, created to self-heal. Along the path of self-healing many things present themselves to be done, at the right time. So I follow what my intuition tells me. Taking back power means more than just shifting it from mainstream to alternative. It means shifting it from outside to inside. It takes awhile...it is an ongoing journey...but in the end it's the only journey, at least for me. I'm reading an article from an old Yoga Journal called MY HEALING JOURNEY THROUGH CHRONIC FATIGUE. Here's a few excerpts: " I gradually surrendered trying to fight or be 'in charge' of my illness. Instead I began to take care of myself--which I was only then recognizing as an entirely different process. <snip> " The guidance I sought came almost immediately, first in the form of a new curiosity. <snip> I needed to develop more points of view --even if some of them seemed to give me contradictory information. " Perhaps you can see this " diagnosis " as simply another point of view... but one which you do not have to accept. I have benefited greatly by walking away from the opinions and the diagnosis of others, including and especially " experts " . I let very few people have that priviledge in my life. It takes awhile to learn to take care of oneself. At first I think we all want to fight the symptoms, to just fix it g-d-it...<smile> Taking care of oneself...now that's something to think about. Best wishes... ~^^V^^~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2001 Report Share Posted September 22, 2001 With respect to Nina's rebuttal of my post (below) I am simply posting what I found in googl. I go there to find other people's experiences with particular therapies. Question: Is your PhD in science? From an accredited school ? I am not accusing, just want to know if you have a legitimate 7 or 8 year degree in science. I have only a B.A. from the U. of Minn., 6 years of college. I manufacture medical diagnostic instruments (vascular disease and monitoring blood flow) of which several tens of thousands are used in medical centers all over the world (Doppler Ultrasound). So with almost 60 years in electronics and 2 years of college chemistry, I do spout off about stuff that looks like scams, especially electronic or electrical scams. And having witnessed how powerful the placebo effect can be by ferrying over a hundred people to " healers " in the Philippines for " psychic surgery " I'm pretty well versed in that field as well. Properly administered, the placebo is certainly one of the most powerful healing methods existing, in use thru the ages. I am sincerely interested in hearing from people cured of chronic diseases. That's why I'm on this newsgroup. I also do not like people who peddle worthless remedies. So without passing judgement, I simply try to find an opposing experience for things like Willard water, Rife Machines, Zappers, Synchrometers, cell salts, etc. The victims of many nostrums are often those who really can't afford to be deceived. So that's where I'm coming from. I have nothing to sell or promote. Loren Nina Silver wrote: > Re: Update > > I don't have a lot of time, but wanted to address a few assertions, > excerpted below. > > > The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness > Letter, > > Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999: > > My personal experience with " wellness newsletter " from universities is that > they are not worth the paper they're printed on, since universities are > financed by the pharmaceutical industry. > > > Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor, > > Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize > > nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He > claims > > that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by > > the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over > 100 > > and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special > minerals > > and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the > > ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals). > Tap > > water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen > ions. > > Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative > > hydrogen ions. > > If there's no such thing as a " Nobel Prize nominee, " tell that to various > scientific organizations and the New York Times. This is horse manure. > > > The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it > > supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known > > antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the > > century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay, > > asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it. > > The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was > > cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a > scorpion > > was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that > is > > boosts his energy. > > This refute is typical of linear allopathic thinking. But the same microbes, > and similar body conditions, can be responsible for MANY different disease > states. > > > Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr. > Pryor, > > director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a > > leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it > > reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells > > and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The > > explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole > > idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let > > along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other > > experts we consulted agreed. > > I recently began consulting with a Ph.D. chemist, a water expert on water > electrolysis. The guy quoted above is in the dark ages with regard to water. > > Loren, I have a question for you: Are you simply reporting another side to > this Microhydrin story, or is there another reason for posting this? > > Regards, > Nina Silver, Ph.D. > > The 400-page *Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* > Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2001 Report Share Posted September 22, 2001 LIVE FOOD - MAN'S BEST NUTRITIONAL SOLUTION - Part 3 This is the One Hundredth and Nineteenth Issue of our online Newsletter, " Spirit of Health. " We bring you articles which are usually outside the conventional medical school of thought, and can be useful to the independent minded individual in taking full responsibility for their body's health. An online version of this Newsletter, plus records of all of the back issues of the Newsletters, can be viewed by clicking - http://www.healthfree.com/health/newsletter/index.html ****************************************** Live Food: Man's Best Nutritional Solution - Part 3 In my opinion, this article is one of the most important ones we have on our website. It was originally issued as a Newsletter over a year ago. The research and writing of it was done for HFR by Larry Spencer. Subsequently, it was used as part of a book titled, " The OZ Factors " - toto@... ____________________ Many more folks have come on board to receive these Newletters since then, so we are issuing it again at this time. It covers the full gamut of wisdom that we have sought to teach others in terms of nutritional based health programs. It is long and for this reason we have divided it up into smaller bite sized pieces. The entirety of this article which can referenced by clicking on the following: http://www.healthfree.com/nutrition/nutrition/index.html ___________________ The subject headings are in this order: YOU TOO, CAN REBUILD YOUR VERY OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM... LIVE FOOD DIET AND LIFESTYLE PROTEIN: FACT AND FICTION PROTEIN AND HEALTH HOW MUCH PROTEIN IS " ENOUGH " ? ____________________ YOU TOO, CAN REBUILD YOUR VERY OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM IN THE COMFORT OF YOUR OWN HOME! Just like a car engine which has been using the wrong fuel, a human body which has been using dead fuel for a period of time begins to " die " . Death of the body begins when the white lymphocytes or white blood cells of the body can not get rid of the toxic waste materials left behind from the use of dead fuel. When too many cells die, the whole body dies. Fortunately, the body has the ability to replace every single cell with a brand new copy of itself every year or so. Due to the continuous cell renewal effort of the body, we can recover from disease and improve the quality of the body - provided we are using the correct fuel and not adding too many toxic substances into the environment of the living cells. You can prevent illness from bacteria and degenerative diseases and rid yourself of illness simply by changing the kind of fuel you consume. Rebuilding healthy cells requires the following SIX conditions: 1) POSITIVE SPIRITUAL ENVIRONMENT Cells have feelings too. A cell is a living organism which communicates with all other cells. It can be demonstrated that individual cells become upset or depressed by your spiritual mood or by upsetting events in the environment around them. When cells are upset or depressed they don't do their jobs well. 2) LIVING FUEL Living fuel means organic fuel. Cells need to be fed live food which contain unheated or processed enzymes. The food must be free of toxic substances such as pesticides, preservatives and irradiation. In order for cells to create protein to build your body they need all 22 amino acids. They need all the vitamins and all the trace minerals available in raw fruits and vegetables, and ocean vegetables such as kelp and dulce. They also need essential oils found in live food oils (nuts, olives, seeds, etc.). 3) TOXIN-FREE WATER The body is more than 70% water. Coincidentally, raw fruits and vegatables are also composed of 70% water. All of the cells of the body need clean water. The water must be free from contaminates such as the poisonous chemicals put in the municipal water systems of about one-half of US cities: chlorine and fluoride. Both of these chemicals actually cause cancer. Drink only distilled water from glass containers. Plastic containers may cause a toxic chemical reaction with the water, especially when exposed to sunlight. 4) OXYGEN Mixing heat with oxygen and fuel causes combustion, which produces energy. We use exercise to get oxygen into the body and get the oxygen to circulate through the blood so that it can carry nutrition to the cells. This requires three types of exercise: aerobic (oxygenating) exercise, strength exercises and lymphatic stimulation. Walking, running, stretching, deep breathing exercises and nearly every active sport get more oxygen into the body. 5) CIRCULATION TO CARRY NUTRIENTS IN THE BLOOD TO ALL PARTS OF THE BODY Living fuel and oxygen provide the energy for the cells. This energy is used to build new cells and to clean the body of toxins such as dead fuel, waste, toxic chemicals, viruses and radiation. For the fuel and oxygen to get to the cells, they must be carried throughout the entire body by the blood. Physical activity gets the blood moving throughout the body. Research indicates that using a " rebounder " supplies all of the needs for exercise without detrimental side effects. Rebound exercise accomplishes the following: Gets nutrients to the cells via the blood Improves circulation which helps take waste away from the cells for elimination Uses gravity to help " pump " fluids through the cell walls, which helps get nutrients into and waste out of the cells 6) WASTE ELIMINATION The byproduct of burning fuel is waste material, like smoke and ash. Often the fuel itself IS waste material as far as the engine in concerned. For example, would you put sugar in the gas tank of your car? Would you pour grease and toxic sludge into your gas tank? You don't because the engine treats it as waste. It won't burn and so must be eliminated. Too much waste clogs up the engine and it stops running. This principle extends to food as well. Eating dead food forces your body to work hard to push the waste out. This processs takes a tremendous amount your energy, and leaves you feeling sluggish. Human bodies treat dead, toxic fuel, like cooked meat, as waste. THE LIVE FOOD DIET AND LIFESTYLE The Live Food Diet is not a " diet " in the traditional sense. It is really a lifestyle change which is a program of nutrition, exercise and detoxification through colon cleansing. The " diet " was developed by Dr. Malkmus as a means to rid himself of colon cancer. The program not only rid Dr. Malkmus of a cancer tumor the size of a baseball in his colon, but handled many other unwanted symptoms too. Since 1976 nearly a million people have started to follow the Live Food Diet created by Dr. Malkmus. Tens of thousands of people have provided testimonials stating that they have been relieved of nearly every conceivable unwanted body condition, not the least of which are cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, and arthritis. The program is simple. Consume only raw, organic, uncooked fruits and vegetables AND freshly squeezed fruit and vegetable juices, especially carrot juice. Get daily exercise, fresh air and sunshine, and drink only distilled water. Try it for 21 days and see for yourself the difference that living fuel makes in your engine! BUT, IT TASTES SO GOOD... There are some of us who can have some difficulty stopping our old habits of eating dead " junk " food. These old habits are based on learned behavior and agreements we've been taught since we were little kids. For example, we were taught by our parents and teachers to " eat your meat and drink your milk so you'll grow up to be big and strong " . We were taught that " Wonderbread " builds strong bodies 12 ways! " Factually, The Meat Industry, The Dairy Industry, The Poultry Industry, and the Baked Goods Industry have bought and paid for most of the " nutritional " training in our public school systems for the past 70 years or more. We were taught about the " 4 Basic Food Groups " -- of course, THREE of those groups were products represented by those commercial vested interests. Most of our " nutritional " education has come from very expensive television and magazine advertisements that teach you to want to eat the charred flesh of a dead cow smoldering on a white flour bun which has had every speck of life and nutritional value ground and bleached out of it which will cause your cells to mutate into cancerous tumors which will eat your body alive until you die in excruciating pain! Now we're supposed to follow this up with potatoes that have been frozen to death and then boiled alive in scalding, rancid oil which will make your veins clog up with sludge and cause you to die of an agonizingly painful heart attack! The final touch is a glass of carbonated tap water filled with toxic chlorine and fluorine gas which has been mixed with 11 teaspoons or more of dead, nutrition-free, refined white sugar and artificial flavoring. Now, they tell us with a happy, smiling clown face that we're supposed to believe that this is a " balanced diet " and that it TASTES GOOD!! ( Robbins, " Diet For A New America " Video) If you're looking for somebody to blame for all this " nutritional " nonsense, try looking in the bathroom mirror first. In the immortal words of W.C. Fields, " there's a sucker born every minute " . It's time we stop believing the sales pitch of the muti-billion dollar a year commercial vested interests and start taking control of our own minds! That means taking control of our own eating choices, our own bodies and our own lives! The more healthy your body becomes, the more you will find joy in the delightful flavor and fragrance of " living foods " . PROTEIN: Fact & Fiction " Never have so many been so confused over a subject about which they know so little. " The word " protein " is derived from the Greek language and means " of primary importance " . Amino Acids, the component parts of protein, are the biochemical basis for life and are required by every cell. The immune system’s antibodies are protein. Endrocine hormones are protein. The cement that holds our cells together is made of protein. STRENGTH AND STAMINA: THE GREAT MEAT MYTH What do the following World Champion athletes all have in common, besides strength and endurance? They must be big meat eaters, right? Henry – All Time Baseball Home Run Champion Dave - 6-time winner of the Ironman Triathlon (the only man to win it more than twice!) Sixto Linares - World Record holder in the 24-hour Triathlon Paavo Nurmi - 20 World Records and 9 Olympic Medals in distance running Stan Price - World Record holder in the Bench Press s Cahling - Mr. International Body Building Champion Roy Hilligan - Mr. America Body Building Champion Ridgely Abele - 8-Time National Champion in Karate All of these athletes are VEGETARIANS! There are many, many more top athletes who have discovered that eating meat decreases strength and stamina. The strongest animals on Earth are also vegetarians: Elephants, oxen, horses, mules, camels, water buffalo, etc. The Silverback Gorilla is 3-times the size of a man and is 30-times stronger! A Silverback Gorilla is so strong it could throw a 200-pound man across the street like a Frizbee! What does a gorilla eat? Raw fruit and vegetables. Robbins, in his book, Diet for a New America, reports that " ...study after study has found that protein combustion is no higher during exercise than under resting conditions. " The Journal of the American Medical Association in 1978 warns athletes (and non-athletes) against taking protein supplements, stating " Athletes need the same amount of protein foods as non-athletes. Protein does not increase strength. Indeed, it often takes greater energy to digest and metabolize the excess protein. " PROTEIN AND HEALTH It has been known for decades that populations consuming high-protein, meat-based diets have higher cancer rates and lower life-spans (averaging as low as 30 to 40 years), compared to cultures subsisting on low-protein vegetarian diets. Some of these have lifespans of more than 90 years. Dr. Leaf published the findings of his research about the oldest people in the world in the January, 1973 edition of National Geographic Magazine. He found that the three most consistently disease-free and long-lived people on Earth are the Abkhazians of Russia, the Vilacabambans of Ecuador and the Hunzukuts of Pakistan. None of these peoples suffer from Western diseases: NO obesity, NO cancer, NO heart disease! On the average these people live to be over 100 years old. The men are physically active and still fathering children at 100 years of age. The diet of all of these people consists of 70-80 percent high-water-content foods such as raw, uncooked fruits and vegetables. These people eat very little or no animal products. Meat protein is the most difficult food for the body to digest. The average time for food (other than fruit) to pass through the entire gastrointestinal tract is between 25 and 30 hours. When meat is eaten, that time is more than doubled! Research published in the New England Journal of Medicine, in September, 1982 states, " undigested protein must be eliminated by the kidneys. This unnecessary work stresses out the kidneys so much that gradually lesions are developed and tissues begin to harden. " In the colon, this excess protein waste putrefies into toxic substances, some of which are absorbed in the bloodstream. The University of Illinois Medical School reports that " A high protein diet also breaks down the pancreas and lowers resistance to cancer as well as contributes to the development of diabetes. " HOW MUCH PROTEIN IS " ENOUGH " Human mother’s milk contains no more than 5% protein. This is enough protein to enable an infant to double it’s weight and size during the first 6 months of life! After that, the need for protein DECREASES. Independent researchers around the world agree that the human need for protein each day is only 25 - 35 GRAMS. (about 1 ounce). Many nutritionists feel that only 20 grams a day are more than enough. Meanwhile, the AVERAGE AMERICAN eats more than 100 GRAMS of protean a day - 5 times the actual need! Reports in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition say that people do not need to consume more than 2.5% of their daily calorie intake from protein. Even the World Health Organization says people need more than 4.5% calories from protein. So how many calories are provided from protein in common raw fruits and vegetables? SPINACH = 49% BROCCOLI = 45% CAULIFLOWER = 40% LETTUCE = 34% PEAS = 30% GREEN BEANS = 26% CUCUMBERS = 24% CELERY = 21% POTATOES = 11% SWEET POTATOES = 6% HONEYDEW MELON = 10% CANTALOUPE = 9% STRAWBERRIES = 8% ORANGES = 8% WATERMELON = 8% PEACHES = 6% BANANAS = 5% PEARS = 5% __________________________ We hope you enjoyed this information and find it useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2001 Report Share Posted September 22, 2001 dear loren: you perform an invaluable service in simply presenting evidence contrary to the many specious claims health fadits make. thank you for your dedication to the cause of balanced perspective. Re: Update > > I don't have a lot of time, but wanted to address a few assertions, > excerpted below. > > > The following is from the University of California, Berkeley Wellness > Letter, > > Volume 16, Issue 2, November 1999: > > My personal experience with " wellness newsletter " from universities is that > they are not worth the paper they're printed on, since universities are > financed by the pharmaceutical industry. > > > Microhydrin is made by a company called Royal BodyCare. Its inventor, > > Flanagan, appears on the tapes and is said to be a " Nobel Prize > > nominee " (there is no such thing - see our December 1998 issue). He > claims > > that his discovery is based on the special high-altitude water consumed by > > the Hunza people of northern Pakistan, who supposedly live to well over > 100 > > and don't get cancer. " Hunza-type " water is said to contain special > minerals > > and negative hydrogen ions, and these are supposed to make Microhydrin the > > ultimate antioxidant (that is, battler of cell damaging free radicals). > Tap > > water, it's claimed, is a villain because it robs the body of hydrogen > ions. > > Aging, chronic diseases, everything bad comes down to a lack of negative > > hydrogen ions. > > If there's no such thing as a " Nobel Prize nominee, " tell that to various > scientific organizations and the New York Times. This is horse manure. > > > The health claims made about Microhydrin are outrageous. Not only is it > > supposedly " thousands of times more effective than any other known > > antioxidant, " but also the most exciting nutritional discovery of the > > century, one that will prevent aging, cancer, heart disease, tooth decay, > > asthma, impotence, diabetes, athlete's foot, vision problems, you name it. > > The tapes are filled with testimonials. A child with a lung infection was > > cured by Microhydrin. It revived a dying cat. A woman bitten by a > scorpion > > was save by Microhydrin. One user says it prevents sunburn, another that > is > > boosts his energy. > > This refute is typical of linear allopathic thinking. But the same microbes, > and similar body conditions, can be responsible for MANY different disease > states. > > > Negative hydrogen ions can't exist in water, according to Dr. > Pryor, > > director of the Biodynamics Institute at Louisiana State University and a > > leading expert on free radicals. Marketers of Microhydrin claim that it > > reduces the surface tension of water so that fluids can pass through cells > > and toxins can be released. That makes no sense, says Dr. Pryor. The > > explanation for how Microhydrin boosts energy: " total garbage. " The whole > > idea that the source water for Microhydrin is better than other water, let > > along life-prolonging, is nonsense. All water is simply H2O. The other > > experts we consulted agreed. > > I recently began consulting with a Ph.D. chemist, a water expert on water > electrolysis. The guy quoted above is in the dark ages with regard to water. > > Loren, I have a question for you: Are you simply reporting another side to > this Microhydrin story, or is there another reason for posting this? > > Regards, > Nina Silver, Ph.D. > > The 400-page *Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing* > Read the Intro on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hi Marcel, Thank you for keeping us updated on your daughter's progress. It is always so wonderful when with the help of a skilled therapist, our children begin to take back control of their minds and bodies and OCD doesn't rule them or us! Keep up the good work! in Southeastern PA Marcel Rutten wrote: I wanted to give an update of what happened sins last week. We were having a hard time with our oldest daughter bedtime routine. She thinks that she urinate on everything. So at bed time it gets even worse. We had a few night that we were up pretty much all night, and we were very tired during the day. So we talked on Monday with the therapist and she said that we need to hang in there. As long we are consistent with the plan this all will get better in a few weeks. The therapist also told our daughter that getting angry at us was not going to help her. To make a long story short, That night our daughter went to sleep without our help, she slept through the night and the next day she started to keep track of how she was doing She went to the bathroom without wiping herself, she started to do her exercises or homework. Last night she woke up at 2:00 o' clock, she got angry yelled a while but calmed down after about 30 minutes. The next 30 min she made some more charts and went to bed. So we are very excited, because she is taking charge here to help her self. I know we still have to go a long hard way, but it feels good to see glimpses of improvement. Last night she went even to bed without wiping, what is very hard for her to do especially at bedtime. Today she is going to see her therapist again and she is excited to show her all her charts. What seems like hell a week ago is now clearing up slowly. So I thank you for all the help and support you have given us and I thank the people who have talked to my wife to comfort her, but most of all I thank GOD for giving us strength, patience, and endurance through these hard times. So for the people who are just starting the therapy, hang in there follow the plan and pray a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hi Marcel, Thank you for keeping us updated on your daughter's progress. It is always so wonderful when with the help of a skilled therapist, our children begin to take back control of their minds and bodies and OCD doesn't rule them or us! Keep up the good work! in Southeastern PA Marcel Rutten wrote: I wanted to give an update of what happened sins last week. We were having a hard time with our oldest daughter bedtime routine. She thinks that she urinate on everything. So at bed time it gets even worse. We had a few night that we were up pretty much all night, and we were very tired during the day. So we talked on Monday with the therapist and she said that we need to hang in there. As long we are consistent with the plan this all will get better in a few weeks. The therapist also told our daughter that getting angry at us was not going to help her. To make a long story short, That night our daughter went to sleep without our help, she slept through the night and the next day she started to keep track of how she was doing She went to the bathroom without wiping herself, she started to do her exercises or homework. Last night she woke up at 2:00 o' clock, she got angry yelled a while but calmed down after about 30 minutes. The next 30 min she made some more charts and went to bed. So we are very excited, because she is taking charge here to help her self. I know we still have to go a long hard way, but it feels good to see glimpses of improvement. Last night she went even to bed without wiping, what is very hard for her to do especially at bedtime. Today she is going to see her therapist again and she is excited to show her all her charts. What seems like hell a week ago is now clearing up slowly. So I thank you for all the help and support you have given us and I thank the people who have talked to my wife to comfort her, but most of all I thank GOD for giving us strength, patience, and endurance through these hard times. So for the people who are just starting the therapy, hang in there follow the plan and pray a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Hi Marcel, Thank you for keeping us updated on your daughter's progress. It is always so wonderful when with the help of a skilled therapist, our children begin to take back control of their minds and bodies and OCD doesn't rule them or us! Keep up the good work! in Southeastern PA Marcel Rutten wrote: I wanted to give an update of what happened sins last week. We were having a hard time with our oldest daughter bedtime routine. She thinks that she urinate on everything. So at bed time it gets even worse. We had a few night that we were up pretty much all night, and we were very tired during the day. So we talked on Monday with the therapist and she said that we need to hang in there. As long we are consistent with the plan this all will get better in a few weeks. The therapist also told our daughter that getting angry at us was not going to help her. To make a long story short, That night our daughter went to sleep without our help, she slept through the night and the next day she started to keep track of how she was doing She went to the bathroom without wiping herself, she started to do her exercises or homework. Last night she woke up at 2:00 o' clock, she got angry yelled a while but calmed down after about 30 minutes. The next 30 min she made some more charts and went to bed. So we are very excited, because she is taking charge here to help her self. I know we still have to go a long hard way, but it feels good to see glimpses of improvement. Last night she went even to bed without wiping, what is very hard for her to do especially at bedtime. Today she is going to see her therapist again and she is excited to show her all her charts. What seems like hell a week ago is now clearing up slowly. So I thank you for all the help and support you have given us and I thank the people who have talked to my wife to comfort her, but most of all I thank GOD for giving us strength, patience, and endurance through these hard times. So for the people who are just starting the therapy, hang in there follow the plan and pray a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Marcel, I'm so glad that things are working out so well! And GREAT that she is actually getting excited herself about how well she's doing and looking forward to showing the therapist!!! And I'm glad you can get some rest now too! > I wanted to give an update of what happened sins last week. We were having a > hard time with our oldest daughter bedtime routine. She thinks that she > urinate on everything. So at bed time it gets even worse. We had a few night > that we were up pretty much all night, and we were very tired during the > day. So we talked on Monday with the therapist and she said that we need to > hang in there. As long we are consistent with the plan this all will get > better in a few weeks. The therapist also told our daughter that getting > angry at us was not going to help her. To make a long story short, That > night our daughter went to sleep without our help, she slept through the > night and the next day she started to keep track of how she was doing She > went to the bathroom without wiping herself, she started to do her exercises > or homework. Last night she woke up at 2:00 o' clock, she got angry yelled a > while but calmed down after about 30 minutes. The next 30 min she made some > more charts and went to bed. So we are very excited, because she is taking > charge here to help her self. I know we still have to go a long hard way, > but it feels good to see glimpses of improvement. Last night she went even > to bed without wiping, what is very hard for her to do especially at > bedtime. Today she is going to see her therapist again and she is excited to > show her all her charts. What seems like hell a week ago is now clearing up > slowly. So I thank you for all the help and support you have given us and I > thank the people who have talked to my wife to comfort her, but most of all > I thank GOD for giving us strength, patience, and endurance through these > hard times. So for the people who are just starting the therapy, hang in > there follow the plan and pray a lot. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Marcel, I'm so glad that things are working out so well! And GREAT that she is actually getting excited herself about how well she's doing and looking forward to showing the therapist!!! And I'm glad you can get some rest now too! > I wanted to give an update of what happened sins last week. We were having a > hard time with our oldest daughter bedtime routine. She thinks that she > urinate on everything. So at bed time it gets even worse. We had a few night > that we were up pretty much all night, and we were very tired during the > day. So we talked on Monday with the therapist and she said that we need to > hang in there. As long we are consistent with the plan this all will get > better in a few weeks. The therapist also told our daughter that getting > angry at us was not going to help her. To make a long story short, That > night our daughter went to sleep without our help, she slept through the > night and the next day she started to keep track of how she was doing She > went to the bathroom without wiping herself, she started to do her exercises > or homework. Last night she woke up at 2:00 o' clock, she got angry yelled a > while but calmed down after about 30 minutes. The next 30 min she made some > more charts and went to bed. So we are very excited, because she is taking > charge here to help her self. I know we still have to go a long hard way, > but it feels good to see glimpses of improvement. Last night she went even > to bed without wiping, what is very hard for her to do especially at > bedtime. Today she is going to see her therapist again and she is excited to > show her all her charts. What seems like hell a week ago is now clearing up > slowly. So I thank you for all the help and support you have given us and I > thank the people who have talked to my wife to comfort her, but most of all > I thank GOD for giving us strength, patience, and endurance through these > hard times. So for the people who are just starting the therapy, hang in > there follow the plan and pray a lot. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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