Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists

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Maybe we should give HIM 10,000 vaccines at once!!!!!Dolores Sieg RN <dolores_light@...> wrote: After you read this read on about the doctor whose incomprehensiblestatement, "an infant can safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines atonce," will live on in infamy. Gads, can you believe it? Are thegrants these people getting clouding ethics so they can justifythier actions for the almighty dollar????? Ya think????I am a nurse and glad I am working with prisoners and not childrenwhere I would be forsed to give

immunizations to the little ones. Itseems more and more vaccines are being added to the arsenal of shotseach year. No wonder we seem to be poisoning our babies.Sigh!!Dolores ( Roberg's mom)Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists13-year old Cedillo is at the center of a court casepitting thousands of families of children with autism against themedical establishment. While a number of prestigious medicalinstitutions say there is no link between vaccines and autism, thefamilies believe vaccines caused their children's autism, and havetaken their case to court.Theresa and Mike Cedillo, 's parents, believe the MMRvaccine, which at the time contained a mercury-based preservative,drastically altered the course of their daughter's development.Within days of receiving the injection, suffered from ahigh fever, persistent vomiting and problems with her digestion

--and also stopped speaking and no longer responded to her name.Dr. Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children'sHospital of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, claims the apparentconnection between vaccines and autism is "nothing more than a sadcoincidence."But families who believe vaccines can trigger autism point to thecase of 9-year-old Hannah Poling; the U.S. government conceded thatvaccines "significantly aggravated" her underlying illness,predisposing her to symptoms of autism.The court heard testimony in the Cedillo claim in June of 2007.Testimony in other test cases is scheduled for 2008.Sources:CNN.com April 2, 2008Read more: Dr. Mercola's Comments: Who is Dr. Offit?http://www.vaccinetruth.org/paul_offit.htmDr. Offit, a.k.a. "For Profit" Offit, by some vaccinationopponents, is not just

a doctor who believes that vaccinations savelives.He is also the doctor whose incomprehensible statement, "an infantcan safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines at once," will live on ininfamy. http://tinyurl.com/3sdp83Trina

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Maybe we should give HIM 10,000 vaccines at once!!!!!Dolores Sieg RN <dolores_light@...> wrote: After you read this read on about the doctor whose incomprehensiblestatement, "an infant can safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines atonce," will live on in infamy. Gads, can you believe it? Are thegrants these people getting clouding ethics so they can justifythier actions for the almighty dollar????? Ya think????I am a nurse and glad I am working with prisoners and not childrenwhere I would be forsed to give

immunizations to the little ones. Itseems more and more vaccines are being added to the arsenal of shotseach year. No wonder we seem to be poisoning our babies.Sigh!!Dolores ( Roberg's mom)Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists13-year old Cedillo is at the center of a court casepitting thousands of families of children with autism against themedical establishment. While a number of prestigious medicalinstitutions say there is no link between vaccines and autism, thefamilies believe vaccines caused their children's autism, and havetaken their case to court.Theresa and Mike Cedillo, 's parents, believe the MMRvaccine, which at the time contained a mercury-based preservative,drastically altered the course of their daughter's development.Within days of receiving the injection, suffered from ahigh fever, persistent vomiting and problems with her digestion

--and also stopped speaking and no longer responded to her name.Dr. Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children'sHospital of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, claims the apparentconnection between vaccines and autism is "nothing more than a sadcoincidence."But families who believe vaccines can trigger autism point to thecase of 9-year-old Hannah Poling; the U.S. government conceded thatvaccines "significantly aggravated" her underlying illness,predisposing her to symptoms of autism.The court heard testimony in the Cedillo claim in June of 2007.Testimony in other test cases is scheduled for 2008.Sources:CNN.com April 2, 2008Read more: Dr. Mercola's Comments: Who is Dr. Offit?http://www.vaccinetruth.org/paul_offit.htmDr. Offit, a.k.a. "For Profit" Offit, by some vaccinationopponents, is not just

a doctor who believes that vaccinations savelives.He is also the doctor whose incomprehensible statement, "an infantcan safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines at once," will live on ininfamy. http://tinyurl.com/3sdp83Trina

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AMEN! I couldn't agree more! I'm with you on this, Trina! (If I were a betting person, I'd bet my last penny he wouldn't allow it to happen!) ~~Ruth

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Maybe we should give HIM 10,000 vaccines at once!!!!!Dolores Sieg RN <dolores_light > wrote:

After you read this read on about the doctor whose incomprehensiblestatement, "an infant can safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines atonce," will live on in infamy. Gads, can you believe it? Are thegrants these people getting clouding ethics so they can justifythier actions for the almighty dollar????? Ya think????I am a nurse and glad I am working with prisoners and not childrenwhere I would be forsed to give immunizations to the little ones. Itseems more and more vaccines are being added to the arsenal of shotseach year. No wonder we seem to be poisoning our babies.Sigh!!Dolores ( Roberg's mom)Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists13-year old Cedillo is at the center of a court casepitting thousands of families of children with autism against themedical establishment. While a number of prestigious medicalinstitutions say there is no link between vaccines and autism, thefamilies believe vaccines caused their children's autism, and havetaken their case to court.Theresa and Mike Cedillo, 's parents, believe the MMRvaccine, which at the time contained a mercury-based preservative,drastically altered the course of their daughter's development.Within days of receiving the injection, suffered from ahigh fever, persistent vomiting and problems with her digestion --and also stopped speaking and no longer responded to her name.Dr. Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children'sHospital of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, claims the apparentconnection between vaccines and autism is "nothing more than a sadcoincidence."But families who believe vaccines can trigger autism point to thecase of 9-year-old Hannah Poling; the U.S. government conceded thatvaccines "significantly aggravated" her underlying illness,predisposing her to symptoms of autism.The court heard testimony in the Cedillo claim in June of 2007.Testimony in other test cases is scheduled for 2008.Sources:CNN.com April 2, 2008Read more: Dr. Mercola's Comments: Who is Dr. Offit?http://www.vaccinetruth.org/paul_offit.htmDr. Offit, a.k.a. "For Profit" Offit, by some vaccinationopponents, is not just a doctor who believes that vaccinations savelives.He is also the doctor whose incomprehensible statement, "an infantcan safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines at once," will live on ininfamy. http://tinyurl.com/3sdp83Trina

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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/04/26/vaccine-autism-question-divides-parents-scientists.aspx?source=nl Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists 13-year old Cedillo is at the center of a court case pitting thousands of families of children with autism against the medical establishment. While a number of prestigious medical institutions say there is no link between vaccines and autism, the families believe vaccines caused their children's autism, and have taken their case to court. Theresa and Mike Cedillo, 's parents, believe the MMR vaccine, which at the time contained a mercury-based preservative, drastically altered the course of their daughter's development. Within days of receiving the injection, suffered from a high fever, persistent vomiting and problems with her digestion -- and also stopped speaking and no longer responded to her name. Dr. Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, claims the apparent connection between vaccines and autism is “nothing more than a sad coincidence.” But families who believe vaccines can trigger autism point to the case of 9-year-old Hannah Poling; the U.S. government conceded that vaccines "significantly aggravated" her underlying illness, predisposing her to symptoms of autism. The court heard testimony in the Cedillo claim in June of 2007. Testimony in other test cases is scheduled for 2008. Sources: CNN.com April 2, 2008 Dr. Mercola's Comments: The debate over whether or not vaccines contribute to

the onset of autism is heating up. I commented on another vaccine-autism article just a few days ago. If you missed it, please review it now to find out more about common sense prevention strategies, and how you can treat autism if your child has it. But today, I’d like to talk about misinformation, deception, and personal agendas. Who is Dr. Offit? Some of you may recognize the name of Dr. Offit, as he is a fairly frequent commentator for the pro-vaccination camp. But what do you know about Dr. Offit? Dr. Offit, a.k.a. “For Profit” Offit, by some vaccination opponents, is not just a doctor who believes that vaccinations save lives. Dr. Offit is also one of

the patent holders of the rotavirus vaccine (Patent Application number 353547), and the recipient of a $350,000 grant from Merck for its development. Additionally, he is a consultant to Merck Pharmaceuticals. Talk about conflict of interest. Jeesh! But that's not all. The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) is a 15 member panel of immunization experts, selected by the Secretary of the U. S. Department of Health and Human Services. They provide advice and guidelines to the Secretary for Health the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on vaccine-preventable diseases. As a member of the ACIP, starting in 1998, Dr. Offit voted “yes” three times out of four on issues pertaining to the ACIP’s rotavirus statement, including, voting for his own vaccine to be included in the immunization schedule. He is also the

doctor whose incomprehensible statement, “an infant can safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines at once,” will live on in infamy. So the question is: if YOU held a patent for a product of enormous income potential, would you even consider the possibility that your cash-cow might be doing more harm than good? Would you admit that a similar product might be the cause of needless suffering? And if you WERE able to consider it, would you admit there might indeed be a problem? Here’s the deal, folks. It’s not enough to look at the obvious credentials of your spokesmen, whether they’re pro- or anti- an issue. Today, you also have to consider the hidden motivations behind their recommendations. Where is their loyalty? How do they feed themselves? And by that I don’t mean, “what’s their nutritional type?” I mean, who pays for their lifestyle? Where

is the money coming from? Do you believe Dr. Offit is an independent, neutral expert on the vaccination issue? Do you believe he’s looked at both sides and made an educated and honest judgment call? I guess that depends on just how independent and honest you believe a man can be when there’s pharmaceutical patent money at stake. Hilleman’s Confidential Memo To give you another glimpse of the reality behind the Big Pharma curtain, Maurice R. Hilleman, Ph.D. is another leading expert on immunization, in the sense that he developed more than 40 vaccines and published close to 500 articles on virology, infectious diseases, epidemiology and immunology. In 2005, a confidential memo was discovered that was written in 1991 by then senior Merck

Vice-President, Maurice Hilleman, to Dr. Gordon , then head of Merck's vaccine division. ( is now a consultant for the Vaccine Research Center at the National Institutes of Health.) In the memo, Dr. Hilleman wrote: “The regulatory control agencies in some countries, particularly Scandinavia (especially Sweden) but also UK, Japan, and Switzerland have expressed concern for thimerosal, a mercury preservative, in vaccines. Some countries require absence of thimerosal from single-dose package. This trend will probably spread… Sweden is requiring thimerosal free single-dose packaging of all products as soon as can be reasonably achieved. The deadline for DT is January, 1992… “ The focal point for present concern is in Scandinavia… The immediate Merck concern is to be able to qualify for sale of single-dose products in

Sweden and in Norway and Denmark… The public awareness has been raised by the sequential wave of experiences in Sweden including mercury exposure from additives, fish, contaminated air, bird death from eating mercury-treated seed grains, dental amalgam leakage, mercury allergy, etc… In some instances, public immunization programs may be endangered by public refusal to accept vaccines with thimerosal.” Dr. Hilleman went on: “For babies: The 25 µg of mercury in a single 0.5 ml dose and extrapolated to a 6 lb baby would be 25X the adjusted Swedish daily allowance of 1.0 µg for a baby of that size… If 8 doses of thimerosal-containing vaccine were given in the first 6 months of life (3 DPT, 2 HIB and 3 Hepatitis the 200 µg of mercury given, say an average size of 12 lbs would be about 87X the Swedish daily allowance of

2.3 µg of mercury for a baby of that size.” And finished off the memo with the statement: "The U.S. Food and Drug Administration ... does not have this concern for thimerosal." So, in 1991, the premier U.S. vaccine expert told the chief of the largest U.S. vaccine manufacturer that they had to immediately produce mercury-free vaccines for Scandinavian children because the Scandinavians refused to expose their children to these unacceptable levels of mercury, which would eliminate Merck’s Scandinavian market share. (It should also be noted that the Swedish maximum daily allowance of mercury from fish is roughly the same guideline used by the U.S. FDA.) Meanwhile, the U.S. continued to produce and administer mercury-containing vaccines to American children throughout

the 90’s. It wasn’t until 1999 that U.S. federal health officials admitted that infants were in fact being exposed to mercury through their vaccinations. Are ALL Vaccines Now Mercury-Free? NO! They’re NOT! That’s another cry you hear over and over again: that “we’ve now removed mercury from all vaccines.” But a more accurate statement would be that mercury has been removed from MOST vaccines – not all – and several still contain traces of mercury, at a level so low the actual amount doesn’t have to be stated. Here is the most current schedule (updated January 28, 2008) disclosing the amount of thimerosal and mercury contained in U.S. vaccines. It’s also available as a printable PDF. The following vaccines

still contain 25 mcg of mercury per 0.5 ml: DTwP DT (diphtheria and tetanus) multi-dose vial Tetanus Several brands of the 2006/2007 influenza formulas Meningococcal multi-dose vial Interestingly, as they’ve removed mercury from most childhood vaccinations, the flu shots still have plenty of it – courtesy of a 2007 Presidential veto against its removal. And guess what? Now the standard recommendation is

to vaccinate your child against the flu EVERY YEAR. Come on! Why the persistent insistence on injecting mercury into our children? How Much Does Conventional Medicine Know? That’s actually a great question, and it was originally posed, not by me, but by the journal BMJ Clinical Evidence. They found that of about 2,500 treatments offered in conventional medicine: 13 percent are beneficial to the patient 23 percent are likely to be beneficial 8 percent is a trade-off between benefits and harm 6 percent are unlikely to be beneficial 4 percent are likely to be ineffective or harmful 46 percent have unknown effectiveness States BMJ: “…the figures above suggest that the research community has a large task ahead and that most decisions about treatments still rest on the individual judgments of clinicians and patients.” So, in conclusion: if you believe conventional medicine is based on scientific, cold hard facts, think again. It’s a crap shoot -- a 64 percent chance that the treatment will be either harmful, ineffective, or “gee, we have no idea what might happen.” There’s no more scientific proof of the safety and effectiveness of drugs and vaccinations than there is for natural treatment methods against the same ailments. The only real question is: how high is your risk

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Yes, but first, adjust the dosage to correlate to his body weight!

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Trina Radford <miiitymous@...> wrote:

>

> Maybe we should give HIM 10,000 vaccines at once!!!!!

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I am no scientistt, nor doctor, but I have to think that one kid is

more sensitive than another, to a particular substance than another

kid. entwined in than could be a genitic link, but I don't think it

is the only thing. Posions are posions, and as such, should be

examined for a long time before being forced on our babies.I think

they are vaccined way too young and too many shots at once.

I don't recall getting lots of vaccines, but the one I recall

vividely was when the neddle came unscrewed in my arm, and I had to

stand still while the nurse screwed it back on, while it was in my

arm. A sign for sure all was not right with the vaccinen.

And get this I broke out in hives when a gal used banana moose on my

hair, I felt it as soon as it got airborn,in 04, and I ate half a

banana, after that and had a few hives, so I thought that was I'd

never eat again, but I've been eating them of late with no problem..

Our bodies go through times when we see an effect and others where

nada, zip happens. Lowered stress, immunity or is it the

food/allergins.forced-vaccination , " Dolores Sieg RN "

<dolores_light@...> wrote:

>

> After you read this read on about the doctor whose incomprehensible

> statement, " an infant can safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines at

> once, " will live on in infamy. Gads, can you believe it? Are the

> grants these people getting clouding ethics so they can justify

> thier actions for the almighty dollar????? Ya think????

> I am a nurse and glad I am working with prisoners and not children

> where I would be forsed to give immunizations to the little ones. It

> seems more and more vaccines are being added to the arsenal of shots

> each year. No wonder we seem to be poisoning our babies.

> Sigh!!

> Dolores ( Roberg's mom)

>

>

> Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists

>

> 13-year old Cedillo is at the center of a court case

> pitting thousands of families of children with autism against the

> medical establishment. While a number of prestigious medical

> institutions say there is no link between vaccines and autism, the

> families believe vaccines caused their children's autism, and have

> taken their case to court.

>

> Theresa and Mike Cedillo, 's parents, believe the MMR

> vaccine, which at the time contained a mercury-based preservative,

> drastically altered the course of their daughter's development.

> Within days of receiving the injection, suffered from a

> high fever, persistent vomiting and problems with her digestion --

> and also stopped speaking and no longer responded to her name.

>

> Dr. Offit, chief of infectious diseases at the Children's

> Hospital of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, claims the apparent

> connection between vaccines and autism is " nothing more than a sad

> coincidence. "

>

> But families who believe vaccines can trigger autism point to the

> case of 9-year-old Hannah Poling; the U.S. government conceded that

> vaccines " significantly aggravated " her underlying illness,

> predisposing her to symptoms of autism.

>

> The court heard testimony in the Cedillo claim in June of 2007.

> Testimony in other test cases is scheduled for 2008.

>

> Sources:

> CNN.com April 2, 2008

>

> Read more: Dr. Mercola's Comments: Who is Dr. Offit?

> http://www.vaccinetruth.org/paul_offit.htm

> Dr. Offit, a.k.a. " For Profit " Offit, by some vaccination

> opponents, is not just a doctor who believes that vaccinations save

> lives.

> He is also the doctor whose incomprehensible statement, " an infant

> can safely receive up to 10,000 vaccines at once, " will live on in

> infamy. http://tinyurl.com/3sdp83

>

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Yes. A very important point! ~~Ruth

Re: Vaccine-Autism Question Divides Parents, Scientists

Yes, but first, adjust the dosage to correlate to his body weight!On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Trina Radford <miiitymous > wrote:>> Maybe we should give HIM 10,000 vaccines at once!!!!!