Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 That is where I get my O2. My husband got it for me when I was much sicker. He told me that the O2 was not that expensive but the tank itself did cost. What was your experience ? I’ve heard it is difficult to get Medical O2. I inquired an got nowhere. Since most experience say it is not necessary anyway, I dropped it. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RRM Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations i get my 02 from the local farm welding supply its much cheaper roger wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote: > > Therefore, I am now in the process of trying to buy an oxygen > concentrator but I am trying to make sure that the oxygen produced > by the oxygen concentrator ( in comparison to medical oxygen tanks > that I have been using) is appropriate for ozone use. Do you happen > to know? > How about you? have you gotten healing or relief from ozone? What > were you treating it for? > cathy > Hi , I have cfids although some speculate it is actually lymes. I don't know. Have had it for 20 years. I have tried various different protocols. There was a time when I really thought I had it beat. Before I got into ozone (I'm on the Oxyplus list), I had read several testimonies of how it really helped. I bought a used generator from Saul for $1600 plus a concentrator from him. I then bought a portable tent like sauna from Ozone Labs for about $250 or maybe it was $300 and I then had all I needed to do any type of ozone protocol. Saul's generator also had a lifetime waranty so if anything ever goes wrong, he will fix it. All necessary attachments also came with the generator. I'm sad to say, tho, that I haven't seen him offer any used generators since I bought mine. He use to sell those that had been traded in but I haven't seen him do that since. I did see once where his wife was selling one on Ebay. Maybe that is what they are doing now. The concentrator is fine but you have to make sure the settings can go from .03 for insufflating to .50 for saunas. Something about that is very important and if the concentrator doesn't have those settings, you then have to buy some kind of adapter, I think. However, you canNOT use a concentrator if you want to do direct IV ozone. One must use the tank for that. All other types of ozone application can use a concentrator, tho. The concentrator I have is from 02 thechnologies Inc., bought through Saul for $800. However, they no longer sell that particular one and do have another for about $1000 or maybe even $1200, not sure. The reason I went with the concentrator (will probably last me a life time) is because when one is so sick, getting out and about to refill the tank can be an issue. I took that into consideration and just went with the concentrator. My question to you about if you were cured was because ozone has not cured me, and I have done it thoroughly very diligently. Personally, I would not recommend the saunas due to all the extreme rashing it caused when one is so sick. For women, my recommendation would be to stick with vaginal insufflating. You can do more without all that rashing. Still I have to say other than cleansing and giving me some added energy, it has not cured. Is it worth it? I think so, but I wouldn't go into debt to purchase the equipment. There are other protocols that have helped me that are not so expensive. One of the things that set me back was a comment that Saul made about 'get your nutritients from your food'. Now I take several supplements, but when I got my equipment (I wanted to be well so badly), I started feeling better with the added enegry it gave me that I (taking his advice) started cutting back on my supplements. I was able to sustain for a couple maybe three years but then I started relapsing. It has taken my four years to figure out I need those supplements. Everybody is different, but I really wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket depending on ozone only to cure. Supplements, liver cleansing, etc. go a long way, too, and are so often overlooked. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 the 02 comes from the same tanks to refile welding or medical grade.you just need a clean/rust free tank(i told them it was for a sauna-got funny look & they leased me the tankbut here you need a rx to fill the medical grade 02 tank !!and you need to pay the dr. for the rx !! HE WILL NOT WRITE A RX FOROZONE as it is poisen in their freaky minds !!rogerTracey de Morsella <tdlists@...> wrote: That is where I get my O2. My husband got it for me when I was much sicker. He told me that the O2 was not that expensive but the tank itself did cost. What was your experience ? I’ve heard it is difficult to get Medical O2. I inquired an got nowhere. Since most experience say it is not necessary anyway, I dropped it. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RRM Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations i get my 02 from the local farm welding supply its much cheaper roger wanda85929 <wanda85929 > wrote: > > Therefore, I am now in the process of trying to buy an oxygen > concentrator but I am trying to make sure that the oxygen produced > by the oxygen concentrator ( in comparison to medical oxygen tanks > that I have been using) is appropriate for ozone use. Do you happen > to know? > How about you? have you gotten healing or relief from ozone? What > were you treating it for? > cathy > Hi , I have cfids although some speculate it is actually lymes. I don't know. Have had it for 20 years. I have tried various different protocols. There was a time when I really thought I had it beat. Before I got into ozone (I'm on the Oxyplus list), I had read several testimonies of how it really helped. I bought a used generator from Saul for $1600 plus a concentrator from him. I then bought a portable tent like sauna from Ozone Labs for about $250 or maybe it was $300 and I then had all I needed to do any type of ozone protocol. Saul's generator also had a lifetime waranty so if anything ever goes wrong, he will fix it. All necessary attachments also came with the generator. I'm sad to say, tho, that I haven't seen him offer any used generators since I bought mine. He use to sell those that had been traded in but I haven't seen him do that since. I did see once where his wife was selling one on Ebay. Maybe that is what they are doing now. The concentrator is fine but you have to make sure the settings can go from .03 for insufflating to .50 for saunas. Something about that is very important and if the concentrator doesn't have those settings, you then have to buy some kind of adapter, I think. However, you canNOT use a concentrator if you want to do direct IV ozone. One must use the tank for that. All other types of ozone application can use a concentrator, tho. The concentrator I have is from 02 thechnologies Inc., bought through Saul for $800. However, they no longer sell that particular one and do have another for about $1000 or maybe even $1200, not sure. The reason I went with the concentrator (will probably last me a life time) is because when one is so sick, getting out and about to refill the tank can be an issue. I took that into consideration and just went with the concentrator. My question to you about if you were cured was because ozone has not cured me, and I have done it thoroughly very diligently. Personally, I would not recommend the saunas due to all the extreme rashing it caused when one is so sick. For women, my recommendation would be to stick with vaginal insufflating. You can do more without all that rashing. Still I have to say other than cleansing and giving me some added energy, it has not cured. Is it worth it? I think so, but I wouldn't go into debt to purchase the equipment. There are other protocols that have helped me that are not so expensive. One of the things that set me back was a comment that Saul made about 'get your nutritients from your food'. Now I take several supplements, but when I got my equipment (I wanted to be well so badly), I started feeling better with the added enegry it gave me that I (taking his advice) started cutting back on my supplements. I was able to sustain for a couple maybe three years but then I started relapsing. It has taken my four years to figure out I need those supplements. Everybody is different, but I really wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket depending on ozone only to cure. Supplements, liver cleansing, etc. go a long way, too, and are so often overlooked. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I had my husband go and I made up his story that he was using welding for his metal sculpture work. I thought, at the time, that I just looked sick while he, with a long pony tail looked more like an artist. J From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RRM Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: RE: 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations the 02 comes from the same tanks to refile welding or medical grade. you just need a clean/rust free tank(i told them it was for a sauna-got funny look & they leased me the tank but here you need a rx to fill the medical grade 02 tank !! and you need to pay the dr. for the rx !! HE WILL NOT WRITE A RX FOR OZONE as it is poisen in their freaky minds !! roger Tracey de Morsella <tdlists@...> wrote: That is where I get my O2. My husband got it for me when I was much sicker. He told me that the O2 was not that expensive but the tank itself did cost. What was your experience ? I’ve heard it is difficult to get Medical O2. I inquired an got nowhere. Since most experience say it is not necessary anyway, I dropped it. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of RRM Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations i get my 02 from the local farm welding supply its much cheaper roger wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote: > > Therefore, I am now in the process of trying to buy an oxygen > concentrator but I am trying to make sure that the oxygen produced > by the oxygen concentrator ( in comparison to medical oxygen tanks > that I have been using) is appropriate for ozone use. Do you happen > to know? > How about you? have you gotten healing or relief from ozone? What > were you treating it for? > cathy > Hi , I have cfids although some speculate it is actually lymes. I don't know. Have had it for 20 years. I have tried various different protocols. There was a time when I really thought I had it beat. Before I got into ozone (I'm on the Oxyplus list), I had read several testimonies of how it really helped. I bought a used generator from Saul for $1600 plus a concentrator from him. I then bought a portable tent like sauna from Ozone Labs for about $250 or maybe it was $300 and I then had all I needed to do any type of ozone protocol. Saul's generator also had a lifetime waranty so if anything ever goes wrong, he will fix it. All necessary attachments also came with the generator. I'm sad to say, tho, that I haven't seen him offer any used generators since I bought mine. He use to sell those that had been traded in but I haven't seen him do that since. I did see once where his wife was selling one on Ebay. Maybe that is what they are doing now. The concentrator is fine but you have to make sure the settings can go from .03 for insufflating to .50 for saunas. Something about that is very important and if the concentrator doesn't have those settings, you then have to buy some kind of adapter, I think. However, you canNOT use a concentrator if you want to do direct IV ozone. One must use the tank for that. All other types of ozone application can use a concentrator, tho. The concentrator I have is from 02 thechnologies Inc., bought through Saul for $800. However, they no longer sell that particular one and do have another for about $1000 or maybe even $1200, not sure. The reason I went with the concentrator (will probably last me a life time) is because when one is so sick, getting out and about to refill the tank can be an issue. I took that into consideration and just went with the concentrator. My question to you about if you were cured was because ozone has not cured me, and I have done it thoroughly very diligently. Personally, I would not recommend the saunas due to all the extreme rashing it caused when one is so sick. For women, my recommendation would be to stick with vaginal insufflating. You can do more without all that rashing. Still I have to say other than cleansing and giving me some added energy, it has not cured. Is it worth it? I think so, but I wouldn't go into debt to purchase the equipment. There are other protocols that have helped me that are not so expensive. One of the things that set me back was a comment that Saul made about 'get your nutritients from your food'. Now I take several supplements, but when I got my equipment (I wanted to be well so badly), I started feeling better with the added enegry it gave me that I (taking his advice) started cutting back on my supplements. I was able to sustain for a couple maybe three years but then I started relapsing. It has taken my four years to figure out I need those supplements. Everybody is different, but I really wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket depending on ozone only to cure. Supplements, liver cleansing, etc. go a long way, too, and are so often overlooked. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 I use welding oxygen and a pediatric regulator. I kept all my costs under $1,000 that way with my generator costing under $700 I got everything except for the O2 and the tank from the one source I posted earlier in the thread. The best bet is to call him because he does not list the needed catheters on the web site but does sell them. Below a list of everything you are likely to need as well I got my generator from the following source. You can order online, but you should probably call him if you are considering purchasing from him. http://www.ozonatedoilonline.com/catalog.html The owner's name is Harvey. His number is 250-368-5490 You need the following: Modified Stethoscope - for ear insufflations. Ozone Insufflation Catheters -for Vaginal and rectal insufflations. vinyl oxygen tubing - general purpose to attach to generator silicone food grade ozone tubing - general purpose to attach to accessories poly quick disconnects - general purpose to attach to accessories If you decide to ozonate water you will need a diffuser *A regulator to attach to the oxygen tank - I do *A tank of ozygen that you get from a welding supplier - 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations ---I have been doing some research. I was about to buy an oxygen concentrator that I could use for EWOT and for ozone. But I heard from Saul Pressman and he said that for ozone you can only use the oxygen concentrators that have low reading like .05 rather than 5-10 ml that most oxygen concentrators produce. There is only one company that produces such low amounts. They are called 02Technologies. They charge $1200 for this machine and Dr. Saul charges $1000. I sure hope there is a better way. I am still doing research. It seems to me that using welding oxygen and a pediatric regulator (that would produce low amounts of oxygen) would be the cheapest and best way to go. Not sure about all this. So crazy you have to be rich to be sick! here are some sites that I have found might help www.oxygenhealingtherapies.com www.ozonegenerator.com ( these people were expensive but very helpfu for info) www.vitalitymedical.com I hope to learn more and be ablt to put it together. cathy In , " opieanddelilah " <patti.sano@...> wrote: > > > Is there any reason that you couldn't buy a used medical oxygen > machine (like on ebay) and run the O2 through an ozone generator? > That's what was recommended to me. > > I just need to find out where to buy the attachments to do the > insufflations and to ozonate water. Where can I get those things? > > Thanks for any help. > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, I am now in the process of trying to buy an oxygen > > > concentrator but I am trying to make sure that the oxygen > produced > > > by the oxygen concentrator ( in comparison to medical oxygen > tanks > > > that I have been using) is appropriate for ozone use. Do you > happen > > > to know? > > > How about you? have you gotten healing or relief from ozone? > What > > > were you treating it for? > > > cathy > > > > > Hi , > > > > I have cfids although some speculate it is actually lymes. I don't > > know. Have had it for 20 years. I have tried various different > > protocols. There was a time when I really thought I had it beat. > > > > Before I got into ozone (I'm on the Oxyplus list), I had read > several > > testimonies of how it really helped. I bought a used generator > from > > Saul for $1600 plus a concentrator from him. I then bought a > portable > > tent like sauna from Ozone Labs for about $250 or maybe it was > $300 and > > I then had all I needed to do any type of ozone protocol. Saul's > > generator also had a lifetime waranty so if anything ever goes > wrong, > > he will fix it. All necessary attachments also came with the > > generator. I'm sad to say, tho, that I haven't seen him offer any > used > > generators since I bought mine. He use to sell those that had been > > traded in but I haven't seen him do that since. I did see once > where > > his wife was selling one on Ebay. Maybe that is what they are > doing > > now. > > > > The concentrator is fine but you have to make sure the settings > can go > > from .03 for insufflating to .50 for saunas. Something about that > is > > very important and if the concentrator doesn't have those > settings, you > > then have to buy some kind of adapter, I think. However, you > canNOT > > use a concentrator if you want to do direct IV ozone. One must use > the > > tank for that. All other types of ozone application can use a > > concentrator, tho. The concentrator I have is from 02 > thechnologies > > Inc., bought through Saul for $800. However, they no longer sell > that > > particular one and do have another for about $1000 or maybe even > $1200, > > not sure. > > > > The reason I went with the concentrator (will probably last me a > life > > time) is because when one is so sick, getting out and about to > refill > > the tank can be an issue. I took that into consideration and just > went > > with the concentrator. > > > > My question to you about if you were cured was because ozone has > not > > cured me, and I have done it thoroughly very diligently. > Personally, I > > would not recommend the saunas due to all the extreme rashing it > caused > > when one is so sick. For women, my recommendation would be to > stick > > with vaginal insufflating. You can do more without all that > rashing. > > Still I have to say other than cleansing and giving me some added > > energy, it has not cured. > > > > Is it worth it? I think so, but I wouldn't go into debt to > purchase > > the equipment. There are other protocols that have helped me that > are > > not so expensive. > > > > One of the things that set me back was a comment that Saul made > > about 'get your nutritients from your food'. Now I take several > > supplements, but when I got my equipment (I wanted to be well so > > badly), I started feeling better with the added enegry it gave me > that > > I (taking his advice) started cutting back on my supplements. I > was > > able to sustain for a couple maybe three years but then I started > > relapsing. It has taken my four years to figure out I need those > > supplements. > > > > Everybody is different, but I really wouldn't put all my eggs in > one > > basket depending on ozone only to cure. Supplements, liver > cleansing, > > etc. go a long way, too, and are so often overlooked. > > > > Gail > > > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 from what i gather, the problems is getting a pediatric regulator that has the style connector that will go on a welding tank instead of a med tank. i did see one somewhere on the web, but it wasn't cheap. been waiting for one to turn up on ebay for a long time, haven't seen any. some time ago i did see an adapter (on ebay) that would connect to the welders tank and a med tank reg could connect to it, but i don't remember the search criteria that turned it up... lots of folks using welding tanks - how are they doing it and where is the hdwe to be found??? > 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone > insuffilations > > > ---I have been doing some research. I was about to buy an oxygen > concentrator that I could use for EWOT and for ozone. But I heard > from Saul Pressman and he said that for ozone you can only use the > oxygen concentrators that have low reading like .05 rather than 5-10 > ml that most oxygen concentrators produce. There is only one company > that produces such low amounts. They are called 02Technologies. They > charge $1200 for this machine and Dr. Saul charges $1000. I sure hope > there is a better way. I am still doing research. It seems to me that > using welding oxygen and a pediatric regulator (that would produce > low amounts of oxygen) would be the cheapest and best way to go. Not > sure about all this. So crazy you have to be rich to be sick! > here are some sites that I have found might help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2008 Report Share Posted May 29, 2008 That was a cost I did not anticipate. Mine cost $100 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone > insuffilations > > > ---I have been doing some research. I was about to buy an oxygen > concentrator that I could use for EWOT and for ozone. But I heard > from Saul Pressman and he said that for ozone you can only use the > oxygen concentrators that have low reading like .05 rather than 5-10 > ml that most oxygen concentrators produce. There is only one company > that produces such low amounts. They are called 02Technologies. They > charge $1200 for this machine and Dr. Saul charges $1000. I sure hope > there is a better way. I am still doing research. It seems to me that > using welding oxygen and a pediatric regulator (that would produce > low amounts of oxygen) would be the cheapest and best way to go. Not > sure about all this. So crazy you have to be rich to be sick! > here are some sites that I have found might help ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Get the pediatric regulator ; unscrew the " medical " style connector and replace it with the " welding " type connector purchased from your welding supplies shop. Do NOT use grease or oil on the screw threads. Tony Moody On 29 May 2008 at 6:51, Tracey de Morsella wrote about : Subject : RE: 02-tanks- [miracle_mineral_supp > That was a cost I did not anticipate. Mine cost $100 > > 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone > > insuffilations > > > > > > ---I have been doing some research. I was about to buy an oxygen > > concentrator that I could use for EWOT and for ozone. But I heard > > from Saul Pressman and he said that for ozone you can only use the > > oxygen concentrators that have low reading like .05 rather than 5-10 > > ml that most oxygen concentrators produce. There is only one company > > that produces such low amounts. They are called 02Technologies. They > > charge $1200 for this machine and Dr. Saul charges $1000. I sure hope > > there is a better way. I am still doing research. It seems to me that > > using welding oxygen and a pediatric regulator (that would produce > > low amounts of oxygen) would be the cheapest and best way to go. Not > > sure about all this. So crazy you have to be rich to be sick! > > here are some sites that I have found might help > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 ....all the pediatric regulators i've seen don't have a removable connector. they're like these: http://cgi.ebay.com/O2-OXYGEN-REGULATOR-Barb-Outlet-Pediatric-Blue-0-3-lpm_W 0QQitemZ110225268568QQihZ001QQcategoryZ45207QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZVie wItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 > RE: 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone > insuffilations > > > Get the pediatric regulator ; unscrew the " medical " style connector and > replace it with the " welding " type connector purchased from your welding > supplies shop. Do NOT use grease or oil on the screw threads. > > Tony Moody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hi Bob, Can't get to that cite now but can imagine the regulator. In which case have someone make up an adaptor using legitimate off the shelf parts. with a short hose or pipe between connections. Tony On 30 May 2008 at 4:43, bob Larson wrote about : Subject : RE: 02-tanks- [miracle_mineral_supp > ...all the pediatric regulators i've seen don't have a removable connector. > they're like these: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/O2-OXYGEN-REGULATOR-Barb-Outlet-Pediatric-Blue-0-3-lpm_W > 0QQitemZ110225268568QQihZ001QQcategoryZ45207QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZVie > wItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 > > > RE: 02-tanks- [ ] Re: O/T: Ozone > > insuffilations > > > > > > Get the pediatric regulator ; unscrew the " medical " style connector and > > replace it with the " welding " type connector purchased from your welding > > supplies shop. Do NOT use grease or oil on the screw threads. > > > > Tony Moody > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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