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Jen,

from what I understand this can be quite normal, those can be detox

symptoms. If she has autism, which is likely caused by mercury poising

from vaccines, then heavy detox symptoms are not unusual.

When I first started out taking MMS I got sypmtoms of food poisoning,

or so I thought. Throwing up, headaches etc for a day and then I got

flu symptoms for a week. I thought the timing was unusual since I don't

get flus a lot, until I read that those are detox symptoms.

Just decrease your MMS intake a few drops and hold steady until the

detox symptoms subside, then increase the dosage again.

good luck with it,

cheers,

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>

> Hi everyone,

> I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

autism.

> She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with it

> but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a little

> concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone

> experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her immune

> system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been

> around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to

MMS

> someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going

but

> I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

>

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My daughter has never had vaccines of any kind though. Thank you for

the info that it might be normal. I only have her on one drop right

now. It seemed to make her sick to her stomach this morning. She is

not eating anything yet. I don't necessarily want to take a break

but I don't want to overburden her body either. Thanks!

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

> autism.

> > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache

with it

> > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a

little

> > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has

anyone

> > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

immune

> > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been

> > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related

to

> MMS

> > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep

going

> but

> > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

> >

>

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Sometimes it is better to take AMMS on an empty stomach and yet for some people (me included) if I take it on an empty stomach I feel nauseous. Therefore I take it after eating and it doesn't bother me at all. So you may want to switch around and see which works better for her--empty stomach or full.

Samala,

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My daughter has never had vaccines of any kind though. Thank you for

the info that it might be normal. I only have her on one drop right

now. It seemed to make her sick to her stomach this morning. She is

not eating anything yet. I don't necessarily want to take a break

but I don't want to overburden her body either. Thanks!

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Thank you very much. I might try doing that. I thought doing it on

an empty stomach might help it be absorbed better. So it is okay to

give it with food? Thanks- sorry for not being so knowlegable, I am

a newbie!

>

> Sometimes it is better to take AMMS on an empty stomach and yet for

some

> people (me included) if I take it on an empty stomach I feel

nauseous.

> Therefore I take it after eating and it doesn't bother me at all.

So you

> may want to switch around and see which works better for her--empty

stomach

> or full.

>

> Samala,

>

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> My daughter has never had vaccines of any kind though. Thank you

for

> the info that it might be normal. I only have her on one drop right

> now. It seemed to make her sick to her stomach this morning. She

is

> not eating anything yet. I don't necessarily want to take a break

> but I don't want to overburden her body either. Thanks!

>

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> Well, if it works and she has no corn allergies, nor are you

> concerned with gm corn products, then that's all that's necessary.

Hi. Can you please explain further gm corn products in connection

with citric acid?

Thanks!

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Jim Humble suggests that you eat an apple or two right after taking a dose. This eliminates any nausea because it mops up die-off. I sometimes use apple pectin (make sure it does not contain added Vit. C).

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My daughter has never had vaccines of any kind though. Thank you for the info that it might be normal. I only have her on one drop right now. It seemed to make her sick to her stomach this morning. She is not eating anything yet. I don't necessarily want to take a break but I don't want to overburden her body either. Thanks!> >> > Hi everyone,> > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has > autism. > > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with it > > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a little > > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone > > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her immune > > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been > > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to > MMS > > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going > but > > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen> >>

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I have no problems with corn, but another person who is very sensitive to corn and was using citric acid for his MMS found out that citric acid now has corn by-products in it, instead of it being pure dried lemon juice like it use to be. It's cheaper to make it with corn. So he has said that anyone with a corn allergy should not use citric acid. And of course, most corn products are now from genetically modified (gm) corn, so a person is getting a double dose of not-healthy stuff by using citric acid. Corn, and gm corn at that. Me? I have no allergies and though I try to avoid gm stuff, I still use citric acid as the activator for my MMS simply because I bought quite a bit of it, and it is handy for me. I am not fond of lemons so rarely have them in the house.

Samala,

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Hi. Can you please explain further gm corn products in connection

with citric acid?

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Yes we have taken her to a DAN doctor although we are in a lapse now

because we moved. Also it is a huge expense. We didn't have a huge

amount of success from what they prescribed but some so that was

nice. She hasn't been tested for viruses as that is usually the last

thing on DAN protocol to do. I wanted her tested for that on her

first visit but for some reason they didn't do it. Actually ever

since we started MMS her tummy has not been distended and she is

talking more. How is that for a good 3 days!

>

> Have you looked into having her tested for heavy metals? Also, an

> unbalanced gut seems to contribute to autism as well. Has she been

tested

> for any viruses and/or bacteria? These are the main triggers for

autism and

> I am just wondering if you've had her checked for all these things

before

> putting her on MMS.

>

>

>

> -- [ ] Question about my daughter

getting a

> fever a day after starting MMS

>

> Hi everyone,

> I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

autism.

> She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with

it

> but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a little

> concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone

> experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

immune

> system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been

> around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to

MMS

> someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going

but

> I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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We always give her MMS with fresh squeezed apple juice and also

follow with a second glass of apple carrot combo mixed with monavie

juice for more antioxident support. Her fever is gone today. She is

eating less which is actually good because she ate a ridiculous

amount of food before. We are also on the SCD.

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

> > autism.

> > > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache

> with it

> > > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a

> little

> > > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has

> anyone

> > > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

> immune

> > > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't

been

> > > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be

related

> to

> > MMS

> > > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep

> going

> > but

> > > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

> > >

> >

>

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I just have one suggestion for you. Make sure she is taking a lot of acidophilus and other good probiotics as the MMS has made my yeast condition worse. It will kill all microorganisms, not just the bad one's. It is not as harsh as atbx, though. Just make sure you are replacing the good stuff.

-- [ ] Question about my daughter

getting a

> fever a day after starting MMS

>

> Hi everyone,

> I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

autism.

> She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with

it

> but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a little

> concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone

> experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

immune

> system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been

> around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to

MMS

> someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going

but

> I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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Gaiacita,

I'm really shocked and upset to hear that the citrus acid has corn in it. Corn is not only gm, but it has fungus in it....all corn.

All corn has fungus. Corn fed cows have fungus. Dairy from cows that have been fed corn, has fungus in it. And it seems that most of our food supply is contaminated with corn - it's in everything and it's everywhere! High fructose corn syrup is in just about everything, even at health food stores.

I'm doing a Google search fo find corn free citrus acid. I have been getting the citrus acid crystals from Global Life www.globallife.net and have an email in to them to see if theirs has corn in it.

Doug Kaufmann www.knowthecause.com says and his book "The Fungus Link"

Corn is "universally contaminated" with fumonisin and other fungal toxins such as aflatoxin, zearalenone and ochratoxin. [Mycotoxins: Risks in Plant, Animal and Human Systems. Task Force Report No. 139. Ames, IA. Jan 2003]

Fumonisin and aflatoxin are known for their cancer-causing effects, while zearalenone and ochratoxin cause estrogenic and kidney-related problems, respectively.

Doug Kaufmann also says food allergies are caused from fungus, even in babies. If the mother has fungus, the baby could have fungus.

If the baby was given antibiotics, he has fungus. Antibiotics are a fungal metabolite. Milk that is not from grassfed cows has antibiotics in it. Organic milk does not contain antibiotics, even so called organic milk that has been pasteurized is better than milk with antibiotics in it.

Caroline Rollinson

>> I have no problems with corn, but another person who is very sensitive to> corn and was using citric acid for his MMS found out that citric acid now> has corn by-products in it, instead of it being pure dried lemon juice like> it use to be. It's cheaper to make it with corn. So he has said that> anyone with a corn allergy should not use citric acid. And of course, most> corn products are now from genetically modified (gm) corn, so a person is> getting a double dose of not-healthy stuff by using citric acid. Corn, and> gm corn at that. Me? I have no allergies and though I try to avoid gm> stuff, I still use citric acid as the activator for my MMS simply because I> bought quite a bit of it, and it is handy for me. I am not fond of lemons> so rarely have them in the house. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Hi. Can you please explain further gm corn products in connection > with citric acid?>

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I'm MCS and lyme. I can't take any vitamins anymore and vit C was my saddest one to go and then I heard that it's made from corn. Makes sense to me I would react to it. You all are so informed, I'm glad to read your posts.ramcaroline <caroline111@...> wrote: Gaiacita, I'm really shocked and upset to hear that the citrus acid has corn in it. Corn is not only gm, but it has fungus in it....all corn. All corn has

fungus. Corn fed cows have fungus. Dairy from cows that have been fed corn, has fungus in it. And it seems that most of our food supply is contaminated with corn - it's in everything and it's everywhere! High fructose corn syrup is in just about everything, even at health food stores. I'm doing a Google search fo find corn free citrus acid. I have been getting the citrus acid crystals from Global Life www.globallife.net and have an email in to them to see if theirs has corn in it. Doug Kaufmann www.knowthecause.com says and his book "The Fungus Link" Corn is "universally contaminated" with fumonisin and other fungal toxins such as aflatoxin, zearalenone and ochratoxin. [Mycotoxins: Risks in Plant, Animal and Human Systems. Task Force Report No. 139. Ames, IA. Jan 2003] Fumonisin and aflatoxin are known for their cancer-causing effects, while zearalenone and ochratoxin cause estrogenic and kidney-related problems, respectively. Doug Kaufmann also says food allergies are caused from fungus, even in babies. If the mother has fungus, the baby could have fungus. If the baby was given antibiotics, he has fungus. Antibiotics are a fungal metabolite. Milk that is not from grassfed cows has antibiotics in it. Organic milk does not contain antibiotics, even so called organic

milk that has been pasteurized is better than milk with antibiotics in it. Caroline Rollinson >> I have no problems with corn, but another person who is very sensitive to> corn and was using citric acid for his MMS found out that citric acid now> has corn by-products in it, instead of it being pure dried lemon juice like> it use to be. It's cheaper to make it with corn. So he has said that> anyone with a corn allergy should not use citric acid. And of course, most> corn products are now from genetically modified (gm) corn, so a person is> getting a double dose of not-healthy stuff by using citric acid. Corn, and> gm corn at that. Me? I have no allergies and though I try to avoid gm> stuff, I still use citric acid as the activator for my MMS

simply because I> bought quite a bit of it, and it is handy for me. I am not fond of lemons> so rarely have them in the house. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Hi. Can you please explain further gm corn products in connection > with citric acid?>

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She eats 24 hour feremented yogurt everyday and quite a lot of it.

24 hour feremented yogurt is part of the SCD (specific carb. diet).

So she is getting a lot of probiotics that way. I thought MMS only

killed the bad bugs though?

> >

> > Have you looked into having her tested for heavy metals? Also, an

> > unbalanced gut seems to contribute to autism as well. Has she

been

> tested

> > for any viruses and/or bacteria? These are the main triggers for

> autism and

> > I am just wondering if you've had her checked for all these things

> before

> > putting her on MMS.

> >

> >

> >

> > -- [ ] Question about my daughter

> getting a

> > fever a day after starting MMS

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

> autism.

> > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with

> it

> > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a

little

> > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone

> > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

> immune

> > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been

> > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to

> MMS

> > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going

> but

> > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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> I thought MMS only killed the bad bugs though? <

That's what Jim Humble says. I was just listening to a CD called "MMS: What you Need to Know", an interview between Adam Abraham and JH. He stated that specifically, that it goes in and kills the bad stuff, but leaves the good stuff alone. The reason for that is that it is not interested in stuff that is on the alkaline side of things, just the acidic, disease-causing pathogens and toxins.

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[ ] Question about my daughter> getting a> > fever a day after starting MMS> >> > Hi everyone,> > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has> autism.> > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with> it> > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a little> > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone> > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her> immune> > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been> > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to> MMS> > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going> but> > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen> >> >> > ------------------------------------> >> >

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Ah, but there is a type of C you can get that is not made from or with corn. I can find the name of it for you if you want. I know someone who takes it.

Samala,

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I'm MCS and lyme. I can't take any vitamins anymore and vit C was my saddest one to go and then I heard that it's made from corn. Makes sense to me I would react to it. You all are so informed, I'm glad to read your posts.

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Are you talking about Vitamin C ? Is there corn in Vitamin C ?

I was referring to the corn in the citrus acid that is used in the MMS.

Caroline Rollinson

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I'm MCS and lyme. I can't take any vitamins anymore and vit C was my saddest one to go and then I heard that it's made from corn. Makes sense to me I would react to it. You all are so informed, I'm glad to read your posts.ramcaroline <caroline111@...> wrote:

Gaiacita,

I'm really shocked and upset to hear that the citrus acid has corn in it. Corn is not only gm, but it has fungus in it....all corn.

All corn has fungus. Corn fed cows have fungus. Dairy from cows that have been fed corn, has fungus in it. And it seems that most of our food supply is contaminated with corn - it's in everything and it's everywhere! High fructose corn syrup is in just about everything, even at health food stores.

I'm doing a Google search fo find corn free citrus acid. I have been getting the citrus acid crystals from Global Life www.globallife.net and have an email in to them to see if theirs has corn in it.

Doug Kaufmann www.knowthecause.com says and his book "The Fungus Link"

Corn is "universally contaminated" with fumonisin and other fungal toxins such as aflatoxin, zearalenone and ochratoxin. [Mycotoxins: Risks in Plant, Animal and Human Systems. Task Force Report No. 139. Ames, IA. Jan 2003]

Fumonisin and aflatoxin are known for their cancer-causing effects, while zearalenone and ochratoxin cause estrogenic and kidney-related problems, respectively.

Doug Kaufmann also says food allergies are caused from fungus, even in babies. If the mother has fungus, the baby could have fungus.

If the baby was given antibiotics, he has fungus. Antibiotics are a fungal metabolite. Milk that is not from grassfed cows has antibiotics in it. Organic milk does not contain antibiotics, even so called organic milk that has been pasteurized is better than milk with antibiotics in it.

Caroline Rollinson

>> I have no problems with corn, but another person who is very sensitive to> corn and was using citric acid for his MMS found out that citric acid now> has corn by-products in it, instead of it being pure dried lemon juice like> it use to be. It's cheaper to make it with corn. So he has said that> anyone with a corn allergy should not use citric acid. And of course, most> corn products are now from genetically modified (gm) corn, so a person is> getting a double dose of not-healthy stuff by using citric acid. Corn, and> gm corn at that. Me? I have no allergies and though I try to avoid gm> stuff, I still use citric acid as the activator for my MMS simply because I> bought quite a bit of it, and it is handy for me. I am not fond of lemons> so rarely have them in the house. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Hi. Can you please explain further gm corn products in connection > with citric acid?>

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I get fevers on and off usually after dosing wth MMS - My guess is she has a chrnoic infection....as is my case among othe rthings...this will happen from time to time....if its too much back down

i pulse and can get away with taking alot less and its mor effective for me as higher doses

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Starshar <starshar@...> wrote:

Ah, but there is a type of C you can get that is not made from or with corn. I can find the name of it for you if you want. I know someone who takes it.Samala,Me again:

Non-corn sources of Vit Chttp://www.vitamincfoundation.org/http://www.allergyresearchgroup.com/

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According to my friend who is very sensitive to corn, yes, it is in regular C too. At least that is what I remember him saying. I'll write and ask him.

Samala,

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Are you talking about Vitamin C ? Is there corn in Vitamin C ?

I was referring to the corn in the citrus acid that is used in the MMS.

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I take a corn free Vit C by Perque

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Gaiacita <gaiacita@...> wrote:

According to my friend who is very sensitive to corn, yes, it is in regular C too. At least that is what I remember him saying. I'll write and ask him.

Samala,

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Are you talking about Vitamin C ? Is there corn in Vitamin C ?

I was referring to the corn in the citrus acid that is used in the MMS.

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That has not been my experience. I have been using it off/on since September. At first, 2x/day. Worked my up to 10 drops. Developed thrush, itchy head and vaginal irritation. I tried to cut back and load up on probiotics. I finally just stopped as I could not clear the candida. But it sounds like your daughter should be fine with all that yogurt. I am glad the MMS is helping her.

-- [ ] Question about my daughter

> getting a

> > fever a day after starting MMS

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

> autism.

> > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache with

> it

> > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a

little

> > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has anyone

> > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

> immune

> > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't been

> > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related to

> MMS

> > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep going

> but

> > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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We have a prescroption anti-fungal from her doc too if I feel like

that is becoming an issue. Thank you for telling us about your

experience. I will watch for that!

> > >

> > > Have you looked into having her tested for heavy metals? Also,

an

> > > unbalanced gut seems to contribute to autism as well. Has she

> been

> > tested

> > > for any viruses and/or bacteria? These are the main triggers for

> > autism and

> > > I am just wondering if you've had her checked for all these

things

> > before

> > > putting her on MMS.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -- [ ] Question about my daughter

> > getting a

> > > fever a day after starting MMS

> > >

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I has been day 2 since starting MMS with my daughter who has

> > autism.

> > > She seems to be doing well, not seeming to get a stomach ache

with

> > it

> > > but she has all of the sudden gotten a fever tonight. I am a

> little

> > > concerned as she will typically regress after a fever. Has

anyone

> > > experienced this. Is it a bad sign, or good, maybe kcking her

> > immune

> > > system up a few notches. No one else is sick and we haven't

been

> > > around anyone we know is sick. I am thinking it may be related

to

> > MMS

> > > someway. Just trying to get some opinions as I want to keep

going

> > but

> > > I don't want to overwhelm her body either. Thanks- Jen

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Yes. Most Vit C is made with corn. After all they have to extract these vitamins from something unless they're synthetic.Caroline <caroline111@...> wrote: Are you talking about Vitamin C ? Is there corn in Vitamin C ? I was referring to the corn in the citrus acid that is used in the MMS. Caroline

Rollinson Re: [ ] Re: Question about my daughter getting a fever a day after starting MMS I'm MCS and lyme. I can't take any vitamins anymore and vit C was my saddest one to go and then I heard that it's made from corn. Makes sense to me I would react to it. You all are so

informed, I'm glad to read your posts.ramcaroline <caroline111usawide (DOT) net> wrote: Gaiacita, I'm really shocked and upset to hear that the citrus acid has corn in it. Corn is not only gm, but it has fungus in it....all corn. All corn has fungus. Corn fed cows have fungus. Dairy from cows that have been fed corn, has fungus in it. And it seems that most of our food supply is contaminated with corn - it's in everything and it's everywhere! High fructose corn syrup is in just about everything, even at health food stores. I'm doing a

Google search fo find corn free citrus acid. I have been getting the citrus acid crystals from Global Life www.globallife.net and have an email in to them to see if theirs has corn in it. Doug Kaufmann www.knowthecause.com says and his book "The Fungus Link" Corn is "universally contaminated" with fumonisin and other fungal toxins such as aflatoxin, zearalenone and ochratoxin. [Mycotoxins: Risks in Plant, Animal and Human Systems. Task Force Report No. 139. Ames, IA. Jan 2003] Fumonisin and aflatoxin are known for their cancer-causing effects, while zearalenone and ochratoxin cause estrogenic and kidney-related

problems, respectively. Doug Kaufmann also says food allergies are caused from fungus, even in babies. If the mother has fungus, the baby could have fungus. If the baby was given antibiotics, he has fungus. Antibiotics are a fungal metabolite. Milk that is not from grassfed cows has antibiotics in it. Organic milk does not contain antibiotics, even so called organic milk that has been pasteurized is better than milk with antibiotics in it. Caroline Rollinson >> I have no problems with corn, but another person who is very sensitive to> corn and was using citric acid for his MMS found out that citric acid now> has corn by-products in it,

instead of it being pure dried lemon juice like> it use to be. It's cheaper to make it with corn. So he has said that> anyone with a corn allergy should not use citric acid. And of course, most> corn products are now from genetically modified (gm) corn, so a person is> getting a double dose of not-healthy stuff by using citric acid. Corn, and> gm corn at that. Me? I have no allergies and though I try to avoid gm> stuff, I still use citric acid as the activator for my MMS simply because I> bought quite a bit of it, and it is handy for me. I am not fond of lemons> so rarely have them in the house. > > Samala, > > > -------Original Message------- > > Hi. Can you please explain further gm corn products in connection > with citric acid?>

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