Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I don't speak for the whole group, but I think most of us would be in agreement if I said that we are on here trying to get a handle on just what the correct amount of mms and other modalities are. I am sure you are very busy, and I would guess that you don't have time to advise us on individual protocols, but do you have a list of "don'ts" with regard to mms? My personal opinion is that the dose of 45 drops a day is over - dosage in a lot of cases. I have had hep c for 35+ years, and although treating with iv o3 and vit c, I was not getting the benefits as I do with mms. I had near zero appetite until mms. Also liver pain, and discomfort while sleeping on the right side. I am not "cured", but my symptoms are near non-existent. I don't think anyone here is kidding themselves about mms not having some negatives- there are always problems with non-natural treatments; but as stated, we're better than we would have been. We just need to overcome any negatives. We recently had a discussion about the signs of ageing and possible alteration of endocrine systems, and HGH -(the bodys natural production). I'm trying to fine tune the amount of mms to take, and then the proper supplements to counter the problems. Do you have any suggestions? &n bsp; Thanks Re: [ ] Re: [miracle_mineral supplement stomach Ulcerss I am seeing way too many people taking Chlorine Dioxide without supervision. DO NOT SELF MEDICATE. I'm mean, pharmaceuticals, vitamins, herbs, ClO2...nothing! It is not a good idea. Find a Functional Medicine Doctor like myself to help guide. To your Health, Brady Hurst DC, CCCN (Chiropractic Neurologist)TrueHealthDC. com Functional MedicineFunctional EndocrinologyFunctional NeurologyCutting Edge Drugless TreatmentsChiropractic Testimonials- Read amazing stories directly from Dr. Brady's patients. Dr. Brady's Blog: Alternative Medicine can Address THAT?!? 1401 Peachtree St. #160 Atlanta GA, 30309 Office: 404.475.0402 Direct: 404.295.5722 Fax: 678.306.1841 * Emails checked twice daily. If urgent, please call me.* |PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION DISCLAIMER| If this email contains Personal Health Information, it is HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only as an aid to provide specific healthcare services to this patient. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law (HIPAA) and will be reported as such. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Lydia Flynn <bflynn2optonline (DOT) net> wrote: Seth, my stomach hurts too from the mms. feels like it's eating the lining of my stomach off. any pearls of wisdom out there?? Thanks and best regards, Lydia On May 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Brady wrote: >> Has anyone ever used MMs for stomach ulcers? I have found thatafter using MMS my stomach is far more sensitive and can> hurt for a short period of time after I eat. Does anyone know ifthis a normal "healing reaction" or should I stop.> > Thanks> Seth>No, do not use chlorine dioxide for SU's. ClO2 is a very powerfuloxidant (how a nail rust... it also is the way our immune system worksto distroy forin invators). Yes, it will kill the bacteria (typicallyH-pylori) if that is the cause of the ulcers but that will set youimmune system into action to clean up after the bombing. This processcan eat futher at the ulcer sites. Futher, if it is bacterial and thecause for them to be able to survive in your stomach isn't resolvedthen you can expect to see those ulcers again. I am a FunctionalMedicine physician so I can not give you direct recommentions howeverIF I were you I would:1. Do a comprehensive stool analysis to check the level of dysbiosis 2. Chomprehinsive blood analsis paying attention to the "totalprotein" and "Globulin" levels. If they are both "functionally" (amore narrow range than the disease ranges stated on lab reports) highor low then that may indicate low stomach acid production (bacteriagrow in low acid states).Go from there. Understand it? I can do long distant consultations andtreatment if necessary.Dr. Brady Hurstwww.TrueHealthDC. comwww.doctorbrady. wordpress. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 ---Arthur, Good questions. I saw that one of your therapies was O3. May I ask what type of treatments did you do with it? Did you do liver funneling? Did it help? Or what other O3 treatments did you do? Thanks cathy In , arthur rambo <alquitit@...> wrote: > > I don't speak for the whole group, but I think most of us would be in agreement if I said that we are on here trying to get a handle on just what the correct amount of mms and other modalities are. I > am sure you are very busy, and I would guess that you don't have time to advise us on individual protocols, but do you have a list of " don'ts " with regard to mms? My personal opinion is that the dose of 45 drops a day is over - dosage in a lot of cases. > I have had hep c for 35+ years, and although treating with iv o3 and vit c, I was not getting the benefits as I do with mms. I had near zero appetite until mms. Also liver pain, and discomfort while sleeping on the right side. I am not " cured " , but my symptoms are near non-existent. > I don't think anyone here is kidding themselves about mms not having some negatives- there are always problems with non-natural treatments; but as stated, we're better than we would have been. We just need to overcome any negatives. > We recently had a discussion about the signs of ageing and possible alteration of endocrine systems, and HGH -(the bodys natural production). > I'm trying to fine tune the amount of mms to take, and then the proper supplements to counter the problems. Do you have any suggestions? > Thanks > > > > Re: [ ] Re: [miracle_mineral supplement stomach Ulcerss > > > I am seeing way too many people taking Chlorine Dioxide without supervision. DO NOT SELF MEDICATE. I'm mean, pharmaceuticals, vitamins, herbs, ClO2...nothing! It is not a good idea. Find a Functional Medicine Doctor like myself to help guide. > > > To your Health, > > Brady Hurst DC, CCCN (Chiropractic Neurologist) > TrueHealthDC. com > Functional Medicine > Functional Endocrinology > Functional Neurology > Cutting Edge Drugless Treatments > Chiropractic > Testimonials- Read amazing stories directly from Dr. Brady's patients. > Dr. Brady's Blog: Alternative Medicine can Address THAT?!? > > > 1401 Peachtree St. #160 Atlanta GA, 30309 Office: 404.475.0402 Direct: 404.295.5722 Fax: 678.306.1841 > * Emails checked twice daily. If urgent, please call me.* > |PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION DISCLAIMER| If this email contains Personal Health Information, it is HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only as an aid to provide specific healthcare services to this patient. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law (HIPAA) and will be reported as such. > > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Lydia Flynn <bflynn2optonline (DOT) net> wrote: > > Seth, my stomach hurts too from the mms. feels like it's eating the lining of my stomach off. > > any pearls of wisdom out there?? > > Thanks and best regards, > > Lydia > > > On May 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Brady wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone ever used MMs for stomach ulcers? I have found that > after using MMS my stomach is far more sensitive and can > > hurt for a short period of time after I eat. Does anyone know if > this a normal " healing reaction " or should I stop. > > > > Thanks > > Seth > > > > No, do not use chlorine dioxide for SU's. ClO2 is a very powerful > oxidant (how a nail rust... it also is the way our immune system works > to distroy forin invators). Yes, it will kill the bacteria (typically > H-pylori) if that is the cause of the ulcers but that will set you > immune system into action to clean up after the bombing. This process > can eat futher at the ulcer sites. Futher, if it is bacterial and the > cause for them to be able to survive in your stomach isn't resolved > then you can expect to see those ulcers again. I am a Functional > Medicine physician so I can not give you direct recommentions however > IF I were you I would: > > 1. Do a comprehensive stool analysis to check the level of dysbiosis > 2. Chomprehinsive blood analsis paying attention to the " total > protein " and " Globulin " levels. If they are both " functionally " (a > more narrow range than the disease ranges stated on lab reports) high > or low then that may indicate low stomach acid production (bacteria > grow in low acid states). > > Go from there. Understand it? I can do long distant consultations and > treatment if necessary. > > Dr. Brady Hurst > www.TrueHealthDC. com > www.doctorbrady. wordpress. com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 , I did 300+ iv o3 and got similar results as with the mms, got the viral load down to 66,000 before giving up. I did not know enough at that time about anti-o so success was limited. I did get the ggt number down to 13 from 32 (lower means better for overall liver health, but the same side effects were the free radical oxidation issue. I personally think that there is a good shot at cure if a person had assitance in doing the iv mms or 03, followed by iv vitamin c, but this is a bit much to accomplish alone, especially if you have to work, etc.(but I'm working on it.) The iv 03 cost pennies once set up, and the iv c cost $15 per bag. I did liver funneling as well; it worked for awhile. I did the insufflations; the sauna tent. o3 water. Hundreds of vit c ivs. Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: [miracle_mineral supplement stomach Ulcerss> > > I am seeing way too many people taking Chlorine Dioxide without supervision. DO NOT SELF MEDICATE. I'm mean, pharmaceuticals, vitamins, herbs, ClO2...nothing! It is not a good idea. Find a Functional Medicine Doctor like myself to help guide.> > > To your Health, > > Brady Hurst DC, CCCN (Chiropractic Neurologist)> TrueHealthDC. com > Functional Medicine> Functional Endocrinology> Functional Neurology> Cutting Edge Drugless Treatments> Chiropractic > Testimonials- Read amazing stories directly from Dr. Brady's patients.> Dr. Brady's Blog: Alternative Medicine can Address THAT?!?> > > 1401 Peachtree St. #160 Atlanta GA, 30309 Office: 404.475.0402 Direct: 404.295.5722 Fax: 678.306.1841 > * Emails checked twice daily. If urgent, please call me.* > |PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION DISCLAIMER| If this email contains Personal Health Information, it is HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL. It is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used only as an aid to provide specific healthcare services to this patient. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law (HIPAA) and will be reported as such. > > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Lydia Flynn <bflynn2optonline (DOT) net> wrote:> > Seth, my stomach hurts too from the mms. feels like it's eating the lining of my stomach off.> > any pearls of wisdom out there??> > Thanks and best regards,> > Lydia> > > On May 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Brady wrote:> > > >> > Has anyone ever used MMs for stomach ulcers? I have found that> after using MMS my stomach is far more sensitive and can> > hurt for a short period of time after I eat. Does anyone know if> this a normal "healing reaction" or should I stop.> > > > Thanks> > Seth> >> > No, do not use chlorine dioxide for SU's. ClO2 is a very powerful> oxidant (how a nail rust... it also is the way our immune system works> to distroy forin invators). Yes, it will kill the bacteria (typically> H-pylori) if that is the cause of the ulcers but that will set you> immune system into action to clean up after the bombing. This process> can eat futher at the ulcer sites. Futher, if it is bacterial and the> cause for them to be able to survive in your stomach isn't resolved> then you can expect to see those ulcers again. I am a Functional> Medicine physician so I can not give you direct recommentions however> IF I were you I would:> > 1. Do a comprehensive stool analysis to check the level of dysbiosis > 2. Chomprehinsive blood analsis paying attention to the "total> protein" and "Globulin" levels. If they are both "functionally" (a> more narrow range than the disease ranges stated on lab reports) high> or low then that may indicate low stomach acid production (bacteria> grow in low acid states).> > Go from there. Understand it? I can do long distant consultations and> treatment if necessary.> > Dr. Brady Hurst> www.TrueHealthDC. com> www.doctorbrady. wordpress. com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 ---Arthur, By " 300+iv 03 " do you mean ozone infusions in the vein? If so I did that about 8 years ago before I knew I had Lyme and I had never felt better and still have not since I did those Ivs. It was amazing! I never felt that good even as a child. We quit because we were not that knowledgable and were concerned. I get nutritional ivs every week now and they have vitamin C in them " Meyers cocktail " . But the concern I have now is the I am going to run out of usable veins. Do you feel that the ozone just by itself is not enough to eradicate pathogens? But maybe great in conjunction? I feel revived when I do ozone as compared to other therapies even though I might get the die off or herxing. Have you stopped the ozone? Thanks for taking the time. Best of health to you cathy In , arthur rambo <alquitit@...> wrote: > > , I did 300+ iv o3 and got similar results as with the mms, got the viral load down to 66,000 before giving up. I did not know enough at that time about anti-o so success was limited. I did get the ggt number down to 13 from 32 (lower means better for overall liver health, but the same side effects were the free radical oxidation issue. > I personally think that there is a good shot at cure if a person had assitance in doing the iv mms or 03, followed by iv vitamin c, but this is a bit much to accomplish alone, especially if you have to work, etc.(but I'm working on it.) > The iv 03 cost pennies once set up, and the iv c cost $15 per bag. > I did liver funneling as well; it worked for awhile. I did the insufflations; the sauna tent. o3 water. > Hundreds of vit c ivs. > > > > > Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: [miracle_mineral > supplement stomach Ulcerss > > > > > > I am seeing way too many people taking Chlorine Dioxide without > supervision. DO NOT SELF MEDICATE. I'm mean, pharmaceuticals, > vitamins, herbs, ClO2...nothing! It is not a good idea. Find a > Functional Medicine Doctor like myself to help guide. > > > > > > To your Health, > > > > Brady Hurst DC, CCCN (Chiropractic Neurologist) > > TrueHealthDC. com > > Functional Medicine > > Functional Endocrinology > > Functional Neurology > > Cutting Edge Drugless Treatments > > Chiropractic > > Testimonials- Read amazing stories directly from Dr. Brady's > patients. > > Dr. Brady's Blog: Alternative Medicine can Address THAT?!? > > > > > > 1401 Peachtree St. #160 Atlanta GA, 30309 Office: 404.475.0402 > Direct: 404.295.5722 Fax: 678.306.1841 > > * Emails checked twice daily. If urgent, please call me.* > > |PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION DISCLAIMER| If this email contains > Personal Health Information, it is HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL. It is > intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used > only as an aid to provide specific healthcare services to this > patient. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law (HIPAA) and will > be reported as such. > > > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Lydia Flynn <bflynn2optonline (DOT) > net> wrote: > > > > Seth, my stomach hurts too from the mms. feels like it's eating > the lining of my stomach off. > > > > any pearls of wisdom out there?? > > > > Thanks and best regards, > > > > Lydia > > > > > > On May 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Brady wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone ever used MMs for stomach ulcers? I have found that > > after using MMS my stomach is far more sensitive and can > > > hurt for a short period of time after I eat. Does anyone know if > > this a normal " healing reaction " or should I stop. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Seth > > > > > > > No, do not use chlorine dioxide for SU's. ClO2 is a very powerful > > oxidant (how a nail rust... it also is the way our immune system > works > > to distroy forin invators). Yes, it will kill the bacteria > (typically > > H-pylori) if that is the cause of the ulcers but that will set you > > immune system into action to clean up after the bombing. This > process > > can eat futher at the ulcer sites. Futher, if it is bacterial and > the > > cause for them to be able to survive in your stomach isn't resolved > > then you can expect to see those ulcers again. I am a Functional > > Medicine physician so I can not give you direct recommentions > however > > IF I were you I would: > > > > 1. Do a comprehensive stool analysis to check the level of > dysbiosis > > 2. Chomprehinsive blood analsis paying attention to the " total > > protein " and " Globulin " levels. If they are both " functionally " (a > > more narrow range than the disease ranges stated on lab reports) > high > > or low then that may indicate low stomach acid production (bacteria > > grow in low acid states). > > > > Go from there. Understand it? I can do long distant consultations > and > > treatment if necessary. > > > > Dr. Brady Hurst > > www.TrueHealthDC. com > > www.doctorbrady. wordpress. com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 , You may want to join the ozonetherapy group monitored by Dr. Saul Pressman who's written books about o3 everything. Or.....perhaps you're the one who mentioned it a bit ago?cahydesmond <cahydesmond@...> wrote: ---Arthur,By "300+iv 03"do you mean ozone infusions in the vein? If so I did that about 8 years ago before I knew I had Lyme and I had never felt better and still have not since I did those Ivs. It was amazing! I never felt that good even as a child. We quit because we were not that knowledgable and were concerned.I get nutritional ivs every week now and they have vitamin C in them "Meyers cocktail". But the concern I have now is the I am going to run out of usable veins. Do you feel that the ozone just by itself is not enough to eradicate pathogens? But maybe great in conjunction? I feel revived when I do ozone as compared to other therapies even though I might get the die off or herxing. Have you stopped the ozone? Thanks for taking the time. Best of health to youcathy In , arthur rambo <alquitit@...> wrote:>> , I did 300+ iv o3 and got similar results as with the mms, got the viral load down to 66,000 before giving up. I did not know enough at that time about anti-o so success was limited. I did get the ggt number down to 13 from 32 (lower means better for overall liver health, but the same side effects were the free radical oxidation issue. > I personally think that there is a good shot at cure if a person had assitance in doing the iv mms or 03, followed by iv vitamin c, but this is a bit much to accomplish alone, especially if you have to work, etc.(but I'm working on it.)> The iv 03 cost pennies once set up, and the iv c cost $15 per bag. > I did liver funneling as well; it worked for awhile. I did the insufflations; the sauna tent. o3 water. > Hundreds of vit c ivs. > > > > > Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: [miracle_mineral > supplement stomach Ulcerss> > > > > > I am seeing way too many people taking Chlorine Dioxide without > supervision. DO NOT SELF MEDICATE. I'm mean, pharmaceuticals, > vitamins, herbs, ClO2...nothing! It is not a good idea. Find a > Functional Medicine Doctor like myself to help guide.> > > > > > To your Health, > > > > Brady Hurst DC, CCCN (Chiropractic Neurologist)> > TrueHealthDC. com > > Functional Medicine> > Functional Endocrinology> > Functional Neurology> > Cutting Edge Drugless Treatments> > Chiropractic > > Testimonials- Read amazing stories directly from Dr. Brady's > patients.> > Dr. Brady's Blog: Alternative Medicine can Address THAT?!?> > > > > > 1401 Peachtree St. #160 Atlanta GA, 30309 Office: 404.475.0402 > Direct: 404.295.5722 Fax: 678.306.1841 > > * Emails checked twice daily. If urgent, please call me.* > > |PERSONAL HEALTH INFORMATION DISCLAIMER| If this email contains > Personal Health Information, it is HIGHLY CONFIDENTIAL. It is > intended for the exclusive use of the addressee. It is to be used > only as an aid to provide specific healthcare services to this > patient. Any other use is a violation of Federal Law (HIPAA) and will > be reported as such. > > > > > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Lydia Flynn <bflynn2optonline (DOT) > net> wrote:> > > > Seth, my stomach hurts too from the mms. feels like it's eating > the lining of my stomach off.> > > > any pearls of wisdom out there??> > > > Thanks and best regards,> > > > Lydia> > > > > > On May 15, 2008, at 5:47 PM, Brady wrote:> > > > > > >> > > Has anyone ever used MMs for stomach ulcers? I have found that> > after using MMS my stomach is far more sensitive and can> > > hurt for a short period of time after I eat. Does anyone know if> > this a normal "healing reaction" or should I stop.> > > > > > Thanks> > > Seth> > >> > > > No, do not use chlorine dioxide for SU's. ClO2 is a very powerful> > oxidant (how a nail rust... it also is the way our immune system > works> > to distroy forin invators). Yes, it will kill the bacteria > (typically> > H-pylori) if that is the cause of the ulcers but that will set you> > immune system into action to clean up after the bombing. This > process> > can eat futher at the ulcer sites. Futher, if it is bacterial and > the> > cause for them to be able to survive in your stomach isn't resolved> > then you can expect to see those ulcers again. I am a Functional> > Medicine physician so I can not give you direct recommentions > however> > IF I were you I would:> > > > 1. Do a comprehensive stool analysis to check the level of > dysbiosis > > 2. Chomprehinsive blood analsis paying attention to the "total> > protein" and "Globulin" levels. If they are both "functionally" (a> > more narrow range than the disease ranges stated on lab reports) > high> > or low then that may indicate low stomach acid production (bacteria> > grow in low acid states).> > > > Go from there. Understand it? I can do long distant consultations > and> > treatment if necessary.> > > > Dr. Brady Hurst> > www.TrueHealthDC. com> > www.doctorbrady. wordpress. com > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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