RE: ozone //-- Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations

[Guest guest]

You are correct about having to rotate MMS.

If your effects on the MMS are very bad, just cut back on the number of drops you use per dose. Say you take 5 drops, twice a day and are feeling nausea or diarrhea, go back to the number of drops that you were on without any effects and stay at that number for a while. There's no need to rush the MMS. The effects you feel are from toxin die-off, more than your body likes to handle. So if you go back to a smaller dose, your body is better able to handle the toxins, and the MMS is still working correctly.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I also find the side effects I am experiencing with MMS a more difficult to tolerate and control than I do with Ozone.

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Thank you for the recommendation. Are you saying that

cream of Tartar will prevent Candida mms resistance or as an additional therapy

as an alternative. I’ve read that cream of tartar does alkalinize

and kills yeast all by itself. I’ve also heard that Inulin worked well

with it

A biochemist whose work I follow, recommends using potassium

citrate or sodium citrate instead for the Candida problems.

The reason I have been reluctant to try it is because I have

leaky gut and chronic fatigue and his research revealed that tartrate

is rather high and could be toxic to people with leaky gut. He prefers citrates

and acetates to raise the immune system because he says that people with many

people with bacteria, or toxins, the bacteria or other organism tends to

produce too much tartrates, causing the body to be in excess of tartrate

whenever people do get sick. This is especially true of leaky gut syndrome and

autistics.

The following link is a study that supports this

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/bookstore/autism.asp#biologicalTretments

The study also recommends that people with chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia

avoid tartar because it decreases the malic acid, and reduces the energy

levels.

See

the following link:

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/book/bk5sect2.html

I think if I had identified that I had Candida early on, I would

try cream of tartar, but now, I fear I would put myself at risk. This is

particularly true now, because I’ve eliminated 50+ symptoms and now they

only symptoms left are chronic fatigue and some leaky gut symptoms.

Are you having success with it? Even though I cannot use

it, I’ve still be curious about its effectiveness

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of RRM

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:27 PM

Subject: RE: ozone //--[ ] Re: O/T: Ozone

insuffilations

try cream of tarter in water on empty gut for candida.

start slow 1/2 tsp in 2-4 oz h20 & work your way up to a tgls

2 times a day.

roger

Tracey de Morsella <tdlists@...>

wrote:

I spent a

minimum of 48 hours researching MMS. Specifically its ability to cure Systemic

Candida. What I discovered is that the candida adapts to mms and the best

case scenario you have is to rotate off of the mms. With candida, this

happens with a number of protocols, so your best bet to cure this thing is to

rotate your protocols. So far that is working with me. I’ve

just added MMS to my arsenal, but I only have 4-6 weeks before I have to rotate

off or it will be useless. I also find the side effects I am experiencing

with MMS a more difficult to tolerate and control than I do with Ozone.

Not everyone

can afford the cost of Ozone, so I’m glad the options are expanding.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of RRM

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:10 PM

Subject: ozone //--[ ] Re: O/T: Ozone

insuffilations

the mms should get more bugs ( including parasites) than

ozone!!

so why spend more money????

roger

Tracey de Morsella <tdlists@...>

wrote:

I'm sorry I thought I sent it in the first post

http://www.ozonatedoilonline.com/catalog.html

The owner's name is . His number is 250-368-5490

He is a wealth of knowledge. While I have a lot more understanding now, I

was lost a first. He literally held my hand through the set - up process.

I think the $3000 kit is more complete, but I would not even have my

generator.

[ ] Re: O/T: Ozone insuffilations

>

>

My generator cost about $700

>

Tracey, Where did you get a generator for $700? What kind is it? I'm

assuming it is oxygen fed and not air fed?

It would be great if you could share a source for a quality generator

that is able to do all the ozone applications.

TIA,

Gail

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[Guest guest]

Samala:

Thanks for the insight. I have accepted that I can never

go above ten drops. I came up with a way to handle die-off with ozone, enzyme

therapy, anti-fungals, etc. I came up with a strategy for minimizing the

potential stomach issues I face with mms as a result of irritable bowel syndrome

and an ulcer, but I still always have slightly grumbly stomach most of the time.

It’s not that bad, but it’s been so long since I have not been able

to manage die off almost entirely, that I think I’m a little

spoiled.

Like many of us, I’m anxious to get my life back and push

hard. Additionally, I feel pressed by the limited amount of time I can stay on

MMS before my Candida gets resistant. Perhaps I need to rethink my

plan and do as you say. Thanks again for the advice.

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gaiacita

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:38 PM

Subject: RE: ozone //--[ ] Re: O/T: Ozone

insuffilations

You are

correct about having to rotate MMS.

If your

effects on the MMS are very bad, just cut back on the number of drops you use

per dose. Say you take 5 drops, twice a day and are feeling nausea or

diarrhea, go back to the number of drops that you were on without any effects

and stay at that number for a while. There's no need to rush the

MMS. The effects you feel are from toxin die-off, more than your body

likes to handle. So if you go back to a smaller dose, your body is

better able to handle the toxins, and the MMS is still working correctly.

Samala,

-------Original Message-------

I also find the side effects I am experiencing with MMS

a more difficult to tolerate and control than I do with Ozone.