Re: Baking soda - Aluminium contamination

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> There have been posts about avoiding aluminium, but when you examine

> the situation aluminium is everywhere, and in almost everything.

I'm curious what makes you say that? Do you mean our food? The air?

> Is food grade Baking Soda free enough of aluminum?

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> What has led to concern about aluminium in Baking Soda?

Not sure there is a difference except for what the labels say. I know

for sure - the way I've been doing the baking soda bombs every day -

that it's important to me that the label says " aluminum-free. " There

was a quote I dug up when I researched this:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/new\

s.php?q=1209404469

" It is very important not to use baking soda which has had aluminum

added to it. The Cancer Tutor site reports that Arm and Hammer does

have aluminum but the company insists that is not true. One can buy a

product which specifically states it does not include aluminum or

other chemicals. (e.g. Bob's Red Mill, Aluminum-Free, Baking Soda). "

The only place I've been able to find Bob's Red Mill, aluminum-free,

baking soda is from iHerb.com - YMMV - even BRM's site didn't carry

it, just plain baking soda.

They all might be yanking our chains anyway.

-vanessa

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If you want to be sure there is no aluminum in your baking soda buy Bob's Red Mill brand. They state it on there packaging and it tastes a whole lot better than Arm & Hammer.

-- [ ] Baking soda - Aluminium contamination

There have been posts about avoiding aluminium, but when you examine the situation aluminium is everywhere, and in almost everything. I want to use baking soda to control an internal fungal problem, like with maple syrup, safely. (I may use a liquid honey or molasses for the sugar needed.)

Is food grade Baking Soda free enough of aluminum?

What has led to concern about aluminium in Baking Soda?

Your comments please. Thank you.

Phil

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Hi

Thank you for responding.

As for Al being everywhere, please appreciate that aluminium does not exist

in nature in a pure form. It exists in clay (bauxite), and clay is common,

is it not, and thus soil often has it and plant produce is usually grown in

soil. It is from this base that I said it is every where. Mind you, in small

or very small amounts.

I've seen the information on the baking soda cure of cancer. My interest is

in the elimination/control of fungi in the body. I've had too much too

often. Fungi/mould/mold is quite plentiful where I live (in New Zealand - so

the brands you mention have no meaning to me). How much aluminium is

acceptable? How pure should the baking soda be?

I was hoping to see answers to my queries about " is food grade okay " , and

" why (in some detail) is there concern about Al in baking soda " .

All that I have been able to read gives no details.

Phil

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contamination

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>>

>> There have been posts about avoiding aluminium, but when you examine

>> the situation aluminium is everywhere, and in almost everything.

>

> I'm curious what makes you say that? Do you mean our food? The air?

>

>> Is food grade Baking Soda free enough of aluminum?

>>

>> What has led to concern about aluminium in Baking Soda?

>

> Not sure there is a difference except for what the labels say. I know

> for sure - the way I've been doing the baking soda bombs every day -

> that it's important to me that the label says " aluminum-free. " There

> was a quote I dug up when I researched this:

>

>

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/new\

s.php?q=1209404469

>

> " It is very important not to use baking soda which has had aluminum

> added to it. The Cancer Tutor site reports that Arm and Hammer does

> have aluminum but the company insists that is not true. One can buy a

> product which specifically states it does not include aluminum or

> other chemicals. (e.g. Bob's Red Mill, Aluminum-Free, Baking Soda). "

>

> The only place I've been able to find Bob's Red Mill, aluminum-free,

> baking soda is from iHerb.com - YMMV - even BRM's site didn't carry

> it, just plain baking soda.

>

> They all might be yanking our chains anyway.

>

> -vanessa

>

>

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> How much aluminium is acceptable? How pure should the baking soda

> be?

When I first started pondering the use of baking soda w/lime tonic and

I read that most baking sodas contained aluminum - that was enough for

me to seek out a baking soda that did not contain aluminum. It did

not occur to me to investigate how much aluminum is toxic. All I knew

was that it could cause all kinds of problems if ingested and that was

enough for me when I was considering this tonic for every day use.

Kind of like - most of use threw out our antiperspirants that

contained alum because none of us want Alzheimer's.

So far as I can tell, there seem to be no studies in the US that

indicated how much aluminum is too much. However, when I went digging

a little I found this article with relation to vaccines and aluminum

toxicity:

http://theblondepharmacist.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/aluminum-toxicity/

" But as I read each product insert and saw the number of micrograms

(mcg) of aluminum contained in several vaccines, I wondered, " Has

anyone determined what a safe level of injected aluminum actually is? "

I didn't have to wonder for long, because the answer is easy to find;

go to www.fda.gov, search on " aluminum toxicity, " and you'll find

several documents about aluminum.

The first document I came across discusses the labeling of aluminum

content in injected dextrose solutions (the sugar solutions added to

intravenous fluids in hospitals): " Aluminum may reach toxic levels

with prolonged parenteral administration [i.e., injected into the

body] if kidney function is impaired. Research indicates that patients

with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates [i.e.,

babies], who received parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4

to 5 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulate

aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone

toxicity. Tissue loading [i.e., toxic buildup in certain body tissues]

may occur at even lower rates of administration. " 1 For a tiny newborn,

this toxic dose would be 10 to 20 mcg; for an adult, it would be about

350 mcg. "

When I cross referenced this to the FDA site, the information was there.

As far as purity of baking soda goes, it's anyone's guess. You could

always obtain a heavy metals test. There's an outfit in Canada called

Osumex who has one. I used them a few months ago when I wanted to

test all my stainless steel for nickel and they were great.

-vanessa

.... the tests were positive and I had to replace all my cookware :/

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Are you sure aluminum is is baking soda and it's not baking powder that you researched? <vandalsem@...> wrote: >> How much aluminium is acceptable? How pure should the baking soda > be?When I first started pondering the use of baking soda w/lime tonic andI read that most baking sodas contained aluminum

- that was enough forme to seek out a baking soda that did not contain aluminum. It didnot occur to me to investigate how much aluminum is toxic. All I knewwas that it could cause all kinds of problems if ingested and that wasenough for me when I was considering this tonic for every day use. Kind of like - most of use threw out our antiperspirants thatcontained alum because none of us want Alzheimer's.So far as I can tell, there seem to be no studies in the US thatindicated how much aluminum is too much. However, when I went digginga little I found this article with relation to vaccines and aluminumtoxicity:http://theblondepharmacist.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/aluminum-toxicity/"But as I read each product insert and saw the number of micrograms(mcg) of aluminum contained in several vaccines, I wondered,

"Hasanyone determined what a safe level of injected aluminum actually is?"I didn't have to wonder for long, because the answer is easy to find;go to www.fda.gov, search on "aluminum toxicity," and you'll findseveral documents about aluminum.The first document I came across discusses the labeling of aluminumcontent in injected dextrose solutions (the sugar solutions added tointravenous fluids in hospitals): "Aluminum may reach toxic levelswith prolonged parenteral administration [i.e., injected into thebody] if kidney function is impaired. Research indicates that patientswith impaired kidney function, including premature neonates [i.e.,babies], who received parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4to 5 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulatealuminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bonetoxicity. Tissue loading [i.e., toxic buildup in certain body tissues]may occur at

even lower rates of administration."1 For a tiny newborn,this toxic dose would be 10 to 20 mcg; for an adult, it would be about350 mcg."When I cross referenced this to the FDA site, the information was there.As far as purity of baking soda goes, it's anyone's guess. You couldalways obtain a heavy metals test. There's an outfit in Canada calledOsumex who has one. I used them a few months ago when I wanted totest all my stainless steel for nickel and they were great.-vanessa... the tests were positive and I had to replace all my cookware :/