Re: more cat stuff ^ . . ^

April 20, 2008

Sounds like your babies are in very good hands.

The Feline leukemia has it's risk too, and I understand why you would do that

after losing

a loved one. I think I read somewhere that even the vaccine doesn't guarantee

that a cat

won't contract the disease. I don't think they really know if it works and there

are so many

different strains, etc. Dr. Belfield of Orthomolecular Specialties creates his

own formulas

and he believes this one supplement he created after many years in vet practice

(he's been

retired for awhile) really prevents FELV. It's called Mega-C and my vet says not

to use it for

a 19 yr old kittie but for cats who are very young or at least who aren't senior

it would be

beneficial. I used it for my cat who is now 19 when he was 8-12 yrs old. It

actually

stopped his arthritis in 2 wks!!!! It's such a great supplement.

Anyway, best wishes to a fellow cat lover.

> > > Here's more info:

> > >

> > > However, tuna in fact isn't good for cats, but tuna

> > > juice is fine if only to entice a cat.

> > >

> > > Cats with urinary problems should avoid any seafoods as they are high in

> > > phosphorous

> > > and changes the urinary pH which can contribute to the lower urinary

> > > disorders. Please see

> > > the following article: http://us.iams.com/iams/en_US/jsp/IAMS_P...

> > >

> > > Here's an article on why tuna is dangerous:

> > >

> > > Here's a web article about

> > > Tuna and how it is toxic to cats (again any vet can confirm this

> > > fact as well): http://www.lenhumanesoc.org/Tips/ASPCA-T...

> > >

> > > " TUNA FOR CATS? NO!

> > > Tuna can be fatal to cats and is not something to be fed to them...The

human

variety

> of

> > > tuna fish contains an enzyme that destroys vitamin B1 (thiamine). Cats who

regularly

> eat

> > > tuna can develop a vitamin B1 deficiency, which results in neurological

symptoms

like

> > > dilated eyes, loss of equilibrium, seizures and death if this vitamin is

not replaced.

> The

> > > scientific name of this disease is polioencephlomalacia.

> > >

> > > Clearwater veterinarian Brancato said that though most domestic

cats do

> enjoy

> > > fish, feeding them a diet of only tuna can cause serious disorders.

> > >

> >

>

April 20, 2008

,

I noticed they just put up a new website. This may be why they haven't listed

the

ingredients yet. Feel free to call and speak with them about their products as

well or write

to Dr. Belfield.

In any case, here's a list of the ingredients in Mega C. I think it's amazing

for arthritis. My

cat had this arthritic twitch in his head and neck which really scared me. That

was back in

2001. He also had some arthritis in his legs. Within 2-3 weeks it stopped.

Here are the ingredients:

Each teaspoon supplies:

B-1

Sodium ascorbate 3,000 mg B-2

plus the following B-6

Sodium B-12

potassium A

calcium D

magnesium E

phosphorus

Niacinamide

zinc

Panothenic Acid

copper Folic

Acid

iodine

Biotin

selenium

Inositol

manganese

I buy the 8 oz. bottle of powder. The dosage for the powder, which you put in

your cat's

food (I put it in their wellness formula or raw food mixture) according to their

weight

which is listed clearly on the bottle.

Good luck. I know watching an animal with arthritis is very difficult. I was

thrilled to know

there was such a natural solution that pretty much cured him of the

problem/inbalance.

andra ^ . . ^

= =

> > > > Here's more info:

> > > >

> > > > However, tuna in fact isn't good for cats, but tuna

> > > > juice is fine if only to entice a cat.

> > > >

> > > > Cats with urinary problems should avoid any seafoods as they are high

> in

> > > > phosphorous

> > > > and changes the urinary pH which can contribute to the lower urinary

> > > > disorders. Please see

> > > > the following article: http://us.iams.com/iams/en_US/jsp/IAMS_P...

> > > >

> > > > Here's an article on why tuna is dangerous:

> > > >

> > > > Here's a web article about

> > > > Tuna and how it is toxic to cats (again any vet can confirm this

> > > > fact as well): http://www.lenhumanesoc.org/Tips/ASPCA-T...

> > > >

> > > > " TUNA FOR CATS? NO!

> > > > Tuna can be fatal to cats and is not something to be fed to them...The

> human

> variety

> > of

> > > > tuna fish contains an enzyme that destroys vitamin B1 (thiamine). Cats

> who

> regularly

> > eat

> > > > tuna can develop a vitamin B1 deficiency, which results in

> neurological symptoms

> like

> > > > dilated eyes, loss of equilibrium, seizures and death if this vitamin

> is not replaced.

> > The

> > > > scientific name of this disease is polioencephlomalacia.

> > > >

> > > > Clearwater veterinarian Brancato said that though most

> domestic cats do

> > enjoy

> > > > fish, feeding them a diet of only tuna can cause serious disorders.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

April 21, 2008

This formula is made especially for animals.

Most of the supplements I give my cats are for humans because they are a higher

grade

(generally but not always) Like I said I'm in the holistic health business and I

used to be a

Territory Sales Manager for a supplement company (for humans)and I serviced

about 50

accounts many of which were Whole Foods.

For instance my cat takes coenzyme Q10 50 mgs. a day softgel - the brand is

Enzymatic

Therapy which is a high quality brand. I'm very familiar with the company. He

has

benefitted tremendously taking this supplement for his heart and healthy gums.

CRF can

cause mouth ulcers and after I put him on this supplement daily he doesn't have

them

anymore. If I stop the supplement, they come back.

I hope you will try Mega C for your dog. It worked wonders for my kitty.

All the best,

andra

> > > > > Here's more info:

> > > > >

> > > > > However, tuna in fact isn't good for cats, but tuna

> > > > > juice is fine if only to entice a cat.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cats with urinary problems should avoid any seafoods as they are high

> > in

> > > > > phosphorous

> > > > > and changes the urinary pH which can contribute to the lower urinary

> > > > > disorders. Please see

> > > > > the following article: http://us.iams.com/iams/en_US/jsp/IAMS_P...

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's an article on why tuna is dangerous:

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's a web article about

> > > > > Tuna and how it is toxic to cats (again any vet can confirm this

> > > > > fact as well): http://www.lenhumanesoc.org/Tips/ASPCA-T...

> > > > >

> > > > > " TUNA FOR CATS? NO!

> > > > > Tuna can be fatal to cats and is not something to be fed to them...The

> > human

> > variety

> > > of

> > > > > tuna fish contains an enzyme that destroys vitamin B1 (thiamine). Cats

> > who

> > regularly

> > > eat

> > > > > tuna can develop a vitamin B1 deficiency, which results in

> > neurological symptoms

> > like

> > > > > dilated eyes, loss of equilibrium, seizures and death if this vitamin

> > is not replaced.

> > > The

> > > > > scientific name of this disease is polioencephlomalacia.

> > > > >

> > > > > Clearwater veterinarian Brancato said that though most

> > domestic cats do

> > > enjoy

> > > > > fish, feeding them a diet of only tuna can cause serious disorders.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

April 21, 2008

,

I would research the wheatgrass thing a little more. It is a grass and is about

70%

chlorophyll. Your dog may not have a reaction to it. I'm very optimistic about

the MegaC

for him though. Please stick with it - it may take a couple months or you may

notice a

difference in a week. Everyone is different. AND make sure you give him the

proper amt

according to weight which is listed on the 8 oz bottle.

I'll look forward to hearing about how it went.

Woof!

andra

-- In , " susan " <ssiegel5@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks, andra,

>

> I will contact them to get that list.

>

> My dog is allergic to every grain and pork. So wheatgrass would probably

> not be good for him. We suspect he has lyme also, hence all the allergies.

> There are probably some other one's we don't know about too, as his ears

> become yeasty off and on, which I relate to allergies or insensitivities.

> Too bad you can't do NAET on a dog! I give him MMS off/on, silver and

> iodine. These 3 things have helped him a lot.

>

> Thanks again for the info. I will let you know what I find out.

>

> -- Re: [ ] Re: more cat stuff ^ . . ^

>

> ,

> You're not being a pain. I completely understand the

> complexities of our pets. Since I don't have that

> information, I would suggest you call Orthomolecular

> Specialties in San and speak to someone about

> that. The woman who answers the phone has been a bit

> gruff on occasion but I get past that because in the

> end, I want what's best for my babies. After you call

> them, let me know what you found out. I may have to

> call them soon as well because Dr. Belfield did

> recommend a product of his for my cat, Mickey who has

> Chronic Renal Failure. I'm curious what he has to say

> about the product he recommended.

>

> Let me know how it all works out. Does your dog get

> alot of sun? Oh, I was wondering if you ever looked

> into wheatgrass for your dog? I just started giving

> my cats organic wheatgrass again (powder mixed with

> water- because I am reminded of the enormous health

> benefits including magnesium that wheatgrass has that

> can help with arthritis and to help bring the body

> back in balance. I started taking it myself after

> being away from it for years and feel better already.

>

> Best,

> andra ^ . . ^

> --- susan <ssiegel5@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > andra,

> >

> > Thank you for the information. I am sorry to bug

> > you about this, but is

> > there an actual list of the ingredients that

> > supply these nutrients? My

> > dog is allergic to a lot of things and I need to see

> > the actual list of

> > ingredients, not just the nutrients it provides.

> >

> > Sorry to be such a pain about this!

> >

> > beyourpassion <beyourpassion@...> wrote:

> > ,

> > I noticed they just put up a new website. This may

> > be why they haven't

> > listed the

> > ingredients yet. Feel free to call and speak with

> > them about their products

> > as well or write

> > to Dr. Belfield.

> >

> > In any case, here's a list of the ingredients in

> > Mega C. I think it's

> > amazing for arthritis. My

> > cat had this arthritic twitch in his head and neck

> > which really scared me.

> > That was back in

> > 2001. He also had some arthritis in his legs. Within

> > 2-3 weeks it stopped.

> >

> > Here are the ingredients:

> >

> > Each teaspoon supplies:

> > B-1

> > Sodium ascorbate 3,000 mg B-2

> > plus the following B-6

> > Sodium B-12

> > potassium A

> > calcium D

> > magnesium E

> > phosphorus Niacinamide

> > zinc Panothenic Acid

> > copper Folic Acid

> > iodine Biotin

> > selenium Inositol

> > manganese

> >

> > I buy the 8 oz. bottle of powder. The dosage for the

> > powder, which you put

> > in your cat's

> > food (I put it in their wellness formula or raw food

> > mixture) according to

> > their weight

> > which is listed clearly on the bottle.

> >

> > Good luck. I know watching an animal with arthritis

> > is very difficult. I was

> > thrilled to know

> > there was such a natural solution that pretty much

> > cured him of the

> > problem/inbalance.

> >

> > andra ^ . . ^

> > = =

> >

> > > > > > Here's more info:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > However, tuna in fact isn't good for cats,

> > but tuna

> > > > > > juice is fine if only to entice a cat.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Cats with urinary problems should avoid any

> > seafoods as they are

> > high

> > > in

> > > > > > phosphorous

> > > > > > and changes the urinary pH which can

> > contribute to the lower urinary

> > > > > > disorders. Please see

> > > > > > the following article:

> > http://us.iams.com/iams/en_US/jsp/IAMS_P...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here's an article on why tuna is dangerous:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here's a web article about

> > > > > > Tuna and how it is toxic to cats (again any

> > vet can confirm this

> > > > > > fact as well):

> > http://www.lenhumanesoc.org/Tips/ASPCA-T...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > " TUNA FOR CATS? NO!

> > > > > > Tuna can be fatal to cats and is not

> > something to be fed to them..

> > The

> > > human

> > > variety

> > > > of

> > > > > > tuna fish contains an enzyme that destroys

> > vitamin B1 (thiamine).

> > Cats

> > > who

> > > regularly

> > > > eat

> > > > > > tuna can develop a vitamin B1 deficiency,

> > which results in

> > > neurological symptoms

> > > like

> > > > > > dilated eyes, loss of equilibrium, seizures

> > and death if this

> > vitamin

> > > is not replaced.

> > > > The

> > > > > > scientific name of this disease is

> > polioencephlomalacia.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Clearwater veterinarian Brancato

> > said that though most

> > > domestic cats do

> > > > enjoy

> > > > > > fish, feeding them a diet of only tuna can

> > cause serious disorders.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

April 21, 2008

I am taking " Amazing Grass " brand organic wheat grass powder. The recommendation

for

humans is one tablespoon in 4-8 ozs water or juice & water first thing in the

a.m.; on an

empty stomach.

First- for you:

What has worked well for me is to take a good brand/organic

Also, I mix the 1 tablespoon (using measuring spoon) into about 1/3 cup of

spring water

and 1/3 cup of concord grape juice (Trader Joe's brand- no added sugar, corn

syrup, etc)

Somehow this really masks the flavor. Use a fork to mix it thru thoroughly

before drinking.

To me, it tastes even somewhat chocolatey - go figure.

For your dog - I would estimate the tablespoon for humans to be for 150 pound

person

approx. So, depending on how much your dog weighs. I give my cats a bit less

than 1/8

tsp mixed in with their wet food and they love the taste. I only mix it in one

side of the

bowl so the other side tastes like meat while the opposing side has the wheat

grass taste

to it. My cats are about 10 pounds. A little goes a long way. It's better to

start slow with

animals - their little systems are so sensitive.

As far as you hearing not to give dogs anything in liquid, I've never heard that

before - the

only thing I can think of is that because they gulp things down they could have

problems

taking food in and coughing or whatever because the liquid to solid ratio would

cause

them to likely not chew the solid parts of what they're eating (for instance

chicken noodle

soup or whatever) In this case, you could try to put it in about 1/4 cup of

spring water and

see if they'll drink it. If they do, you're set, if not putting it in the wet

food would work

fine. If that doesn't work, let me know.

Perhaps you'll give wheat grass a second go of it - the concord grape juice

diluted with

spring water does the trick for me! I have no problem taking it the other way

but the juice

does make it more pleasant. Don't mix wheat grass with citrus, though.

Be well,

andra

" I just started giving my cats

> organic wheatgrass again (powder mixed with water- because I am

> reminded of the enormous health benefits including magnesium that

> wheatgrass has that can help with arthritis... "

>

> Hi andra, I bought some of this a while back for myself but

> cannot get it down due to the taste (I gag on it) so this about

> giving it to cats made me wonder about giving it to my dogs. One of

> them has arthritis but the other is fine. I have been told that dogs

> shouldn't be given flavoured water, e.g., soups or anything else in

> water. Do you have a view on that please? And if you think it is

> ok, how much water to wheatgrass; just like for a human? After all

> that I'm not sure my dog would take it anyway as she's very finicky.

>

> Thanks in advance.......LD

>

April 21, 2008

Here's the link for Amazing Greens. I'm helping to promote their product because

I love it!

http://www.myreferer.com/mydb/?M=amazinggrass & ID=mickeyhenry & L=1 "

Stay and touch and let me know how it goes! (gulp!)

tee hee hee!