Fwd: [] Attacks on Natural Solutions: Beware! Don't believe the propaganda!

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this is a reply on dr. rima ????????????????????????????????? rogerNote: forwarded message attached.

Folks,

These weird attacks on Rima and Bert surface every once in a while.

My wife Kathy and I have been active in the health freedom movement

for decades (for example, in 1979, as a young lawyer, I was cited by

National Health Federation for my work with people seeking alternative

cancer therapies). We worked hard to get DSHEA passed and we've been

loud and clear on our opposition to forced vaccination.

I had heard a bit about Rima and Bert in the late '90s (she was one of

the few psychiatrists who took close-encounter expeiencers seriously)

and finally met them in 2005 at a meeting of various health freedom

advocates, called to try to create an umbrella group. That never

materialized and we started working with Rima and Bert through Natural

Solutions Foundation (I became the third trustee and dealt with

getting the tax exempt status).

In Spring of 2007 NSF led the response to the FDA's attempt to sneak

through its nefarious anti-CAM guidance document and our eAlert system

grew by 150,000 people in a month... amazing what the internet can do

when people are really concerned. That's when NSF became the largest

activist health freedom group on the Internet. That also seems to be

when the attacks materialized.

Then, in late 2007 both land and NJ gave us the " opportunity " to

bring people together on the Forced Vaccination issue, and this forum

was the result. We are really pleased how people are self-organizing

through the forum and we have plans to make it even better.

The long awaited Vaccination eBook, authored by leading vaccination

attorney Alan J. , with some help from others on this forum,

is just about ready.

We see Natural Solutions Foundation as a necessary part of the health

freedom movement, engaging the international and national agencies to

demand that they protect people, not special interests. Our " Codex 2

Step " offers health conscious countries a way to opt out of much of

the worst that Codex has done.

So, what have I learned about Rima and Bert by working with them daily

for the past couple years? Simply this: they are genuine. The attacks

on them are " turf " inspired. We avoid responding to those attacks

since response just energizes them. Our time needs to be spent on the

issues, not organizational silliness.

Yes, Dr. Rima is a psychiatrist. She practiced drug-free medicine for

decades. Yes, Gen. Bert is a retired Army officer with a distinguished

career, culminating as head of Army intelligence. Yes, he was involved

in bringing advanced techniques such as remote viewing to the

military. He has always had a keen interest in " borderline " science

and is intellectually open to an astounding array of ideas. His

strategic sense is a great asset to our movement. I hope you each

someday have a chance to just sit down and talk with Bert; it is an

eye-opening experience!

They are accused of somehow really being " Big Pharma " shills although

all our positions and actions are aimed at taking down the Bigs! I

can't figure that out... unless it's just some sort of big lie

technique being used against them because we are being effective.

Take a look at our list of accomplishments to see what I mean:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/index.php?page_id=195

We really appreciate all of your support and enthusiasm... alone, we

are each just a " voice in the wilderness " of cyberspace; together our

voices are growing powerful!

Ralph Fucetola JD

NSF Trustee

PS - This is another web site we're developing for NSF:

www.naturalsolutionsfoundation.org

dr. Rima what is this all about.

> this was just on another group??

> it has been talked about before too on other groups??

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> roger

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> su

> I have also heard this about this organization as

well and have always blocked messages from them. It is a lot of fear

mongering.-- Su

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> -- Beware! ..... Natural health freedom

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> I had recalled hearing warnings about this group, 'Health Freedom

USA " , and decided to double check with a friend who is very

kowledgeable and has studied these things for years. Hear is what she

replied:

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> " Hi Na

> Yes, they are the ones – headed by Rima Laibow MD and her husband

(Laibow is a psychiatrist and her husband is an ex military

(intelligence I think) guy.

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> The NSF has put together a web site that talks about all the right

things. Trouble is they spread incorrect information. It seems likely

that they are a wolf in sheep's clothing, sucking people into their

site and then leading them astray. Proof is in their past actions when

they have pointed people away from valid urgent issues (such as

critical legislation) with insignificant campaigns at the exact time

when people should have been focusing on important legislation and so

forth. They were very effective in distracting people away from recent

critical legislation with some insignificant nonsense (which they said

was a big deal).

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> The National Health Federation (http://www.thenhf.com) and

Alliance for Natural Health (heahttp://www.alliance-natural-lth.org)

are the only two reliable and trustworthy health freedom sites I know

about. Citizens for Health is another organization I ignore – they are

definitely not working for " citizens. " (unless you count corporations

and big pharma as citizens – which the US government does). Rima

Laibow has not been allowed to attend CODEX meetings. The National

Health Federation is the only organization of its kind that is allowed

to attend and participate in CODEX proceedings, and the NHF also works

closely with Alliance for Natural Health, the UK organization which

has been fighting CODEX regulations in the European courts. I'm fairly

certain that the Natural Solutions Foundation is a " shill " for big

pharma interests. "

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> If anyone is interested in learning more about what is

> happening to your health freedoms and what you can do

> about it, go to this site >> www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

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> Dr. Rima and her husband are working tirelessly in every

> way they can to preserve your freedoms but they cannot

> do it alone. They need everyone to help in one way or

> another.

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> I do not normally talk about money I give as I consider it

> a private matter but if it will help Dr Rima's cause, I will

> reveal a bit about what I am doing in addition to sending

> emails from time to time, if it will encourage others.

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> I cannot help a lot financially but I do give $5.00 every

> month off of my credit card. The more products I will

> be selling, the more I will be contributing but for now,

> $5.00 is all I can afford but surely it is better than

> nothing. 100,000 people all giving just $5.00 is a half

> million dollars. Dr Rima needs every bit of it and more.

> They travel to the government to lobby the politicians.

> They also travel to various parts of the world where

> the CODEX meetings are being held and etc, etc, etc.

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> If you follow what Dr Rima does, you will find it very

> interesting. Please listen to her videos. She gives a lot

> information and ideas. Subscribe to her newsletter.

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> Also please send this email to as many people and

> groups as you can.

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> Thank you