Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Hello Lydia I agree that Arthur's post was good. I thought I would add my experience. I used to do liver cleanses for gallstones. I used grapefruit juice and olive oil. I put 1/4 cup of Olive Oil in a tall glass (about 8 - 10 ounces) and then I filled it up with grapefruit juice. I would stir it really fast and drink it down fast. The first time I did that I thought there was no way I could do that too often. But then I tried using a straw and it was much easier to take. A couple of glasses of this per day and I dropped oodles of stones after a few days. They came out with the stool and most of them looked like round green grapes of varying sizes. Some were as large as a normal green grape, too. And this happened with no pain although later on I noticed that I was slightly nauseous for about a half hour. This nausea would start about 1 1/2 hours after I finished the drink. I also had chaff sometimes. This drink helped to keep me from gallbladder attacks. My attacks began in 1995 and I have not had to have my gallbladder removed. At one point, my general doctor sent me to a surgeon. The surgeon said I didn't need my gallbladder anyway. I said, "Well, God must have put it there for a reason." Anyway, I never went back. BUT the best all around cleanser for the entire inner body which cleanses every tissue, every organ right down to the tiniest cell is the Holy Tea. And it's so easy! You just drink this good tasting tea 2 or 3 times a day. To hear what others are saying about the Holy Tea, go to www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee and listen to a recorded conference call we had on April 15th. It was really good. Just click on Conference Calls on the menu. Then scroll down and click on the April 15th Call. It will play on your computer. No need to pay long distance. We also have Live calls and there are a couple of doctors on the call who may be able to answer any questions that you may have. The best calls are the "Nothing But The Truth" testimonial calls and they are on at 8pm Central time on Tuesday evenings. You can listen to them from your computer, too and there is no cost. Excuse me for being excited about the Holy Tea. It has done some great things for many people. There is no obligation of any kind. I just like sharing the good news. Please let me know what you think. Helen Elias 604-420-1544 www.holyteaclub.com/zhebee Lydia Flynn <bflynn2@...> wrote: Hey Arthur, this is great info! I think I desperately need to cleanse my liver but I get anxious about doing it right and getting the ingredients together etc... Do you know where I could do a one stop shopping for the cleanse protocol and all the ingredients needed packaged and sold all together nice and easy and neat? You know, like a "Lymph, Liver, Spleen Clean for Dummies" . Thanks and best regards, Lydia On May 3, 2008, at 8:01 AM, arthur rambo wrote: A symptom of blocked bile ducts would be light colored stools. Even if you don't see what you think is light, you may still have blockage. There have been times when I see -black- after a cleanse. I've had 2 experiences which really got my attention, when I used them thr first time. After my "internal medicine doctor" told me there was nothing that could be done for my swollen liver (He pronounced it "enlarged") I went home and decided I had nothing to lose by trying the HD liver cleanse. Next day, all was well (in that department) Btw, I didn't really have much pain, just ther beginning of a pot belly, with pressure in the liver area. 3 days later, I discovered my strength took a dramatic increase as I worked out at the gym. The ideal protocol is to do the cleanse until you count 2,000 "stones" - some chaff would count, I guess. One every 2 weeks is ideal. Btw, raw beet juice works well to increase bile flow. Drinking B J after a cleanse (and a glass a day)seems like a good idea. This is just my opinion, but it seems that when the liver is really the key to correcting all the other issues. When you adopt a lifestyle that promotes liver health, every other organ benefits. Its claimed that the liver is 80% lymph, which is used to clean the system. Secondly, heres evidence of why I think the liver is so critical. It is my understanding that the lymph system runs along side the blood arteries and eleswhere throughout the body and carries off toxic waste. The waste is taken to the liver, detoxed, and disposed of -(in ideal situations) (this is another reason why active people stay well more often- activity "squeezes" and pushes lymph fluid, resulting in faster cleansing) Before I did the first liver cleanse, I did a Castor oil pack over the thymus gland -which is located about two fingers (laid sideways) blow the top breastbone. A day or 2 later, I began to have severe fatigue, and developed approx 10 boils on my chest and stomach. The fatigue was so bad, I couldn't work. 3 days later, I had a seriously cleansing BM; (sorry for the graphics) and felt great. So my best theory is that the castor oil moved stagnant lymph to a plugged liver- more than it could handle, which caused a back-up through the skin. My diet and habits back then were the SAD we all know about. This castor oil protocol calls for one night Lymph, one night liver, one night spleen, and repeat- taking the weekend off. If you decide to do it, be aware of using a -clean- flannel.. Boil the flannel to be used, after washing in environmentally friendly soap. Don't use any clear plastic anywhere near the oil. The CO is very penetrating, and will carry whatever is in the flannel in with it. It also has to be cold pressed oil- not the drugstore brand. Re: [ ] Still at 4 drops MMS with no improvement At 08:30 PM 2/05/2008, Arthur wrote: "...plugged liver. We all have "gallstones" in our bile ducts which hamper bile flow, which is involved in detoxing and digestion. the Hulda liver cleanse is the one I do. It is important to follow through once you begin."Arthur, I was doing just the Epsom salt flushes to open the hepatic ducts on the advice of Duncan Crow because I don't have a gall bladder. They sure do give me diarrhoea. How often would you say they are necessary? Although I said that detox seems to be my biggest issue, I said that because it is what everyone tells me. However, even though I believed it at first, I have begun to wonder if it is actually my problem because I'm experiencing an exacerbation of my symptoms not something different that might indicate I'm not releasing the endotoxins (with past and present treatments). With the help of various substances, including magnesium tabs, vit C and Senekot and some Epsom salt flushes my bowels are kept active. Plus, I've tried various products now that are supposed to deal with the detox issue and all, except those that activate the bowels, have just caused more pain. And those that activate the bowels don't lessen the exacerbation of pain from treatments (e.g., MMS, iodine, etc). I'm perplexed about why anything I've tried hasn't actually eased the exacerbation if detox is my issue? If it is the liver, then why do I not get pain or distress in that area?Also, even though I had constant exacerbation of symptoms while I was following the Marshall protocol (MP) for 2 and a 1/2 years, when I stopped I felt way better than I had in many years. So many symptoms were completely gone for a while. IF detox was my problem, why when I stopped did I feel such an improvement? Surely the endotoxins would have been so built up from my inability to detox that I would not have felt better? And if you are wondering why I don't just go back to the MP, it's because it invoked the very worst exacerbation of various symptoms and virtually put me in bed for the last 12 months on it. I'm looking for a gentler way. I was told by the MP forum staff that my issue was that I had so much infection throughout the body. Detox issues were never raised other than to indicate that everyone experiences some detox symptoms and the more infection one has the worse will be the herx.It's not that I'm against the idea that detoxing is my issue but I just don't understand what that idea is based on in my case. If you or anyone could direct me to some studies and reading from experts about the detox issue I'd be grateful.Thanks Arthur et al.......... LD Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Total Body Cleanse! Acid Reflux? Constipation? 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