Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says

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As to lyme:

My MRI[i had 2]showed lyme,and when I researched it the symtoms were

kindred to fibromyalgia. A Western blot blood work showed that I did

not have lyme. I did however find a product, from a web site, I think

it was www.lymelady.com out of florida. The product was a very

concentrated liquid, that required only drops. A nurapath I had seen

sold me the same product!!

Peace-Love-Oneness

Dona anIn no-forced-vaccination , RRM <rmor67@...>

wrote:

>

>

>

> Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says

> Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment

>

> By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

> Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT

>

> http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_8956433?source%

>

>

>

>

> By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

> Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT

>

> A recent study from the University of California, , provides

> the first evidence that the bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade

> antibiotics by " hiding out " in tissue throughout the body and

remain

> infectious long after treatment ends.

>

> " Lyme disease is a tough nut to crack, " said Barthold, the

> study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for

> Comparative Medicine. " The bacterium causing Lyme disease has

> evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising

> that it can also evade antibiotics. "

>

> The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant,

> although it still produced proteins potentially capable of

> continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said.

>

> The article appeared in the March issue of the journal

Antimicrobial

> Agents and Chemotherapy, and the research was funded by the

National

> Institutes of Health.

>

> The findings provide critical data in the quest to offer relief for

> those certain they're suffering from the sometimes crippling

> symptoms of Lyme disease years after their initial infection and

> subsequent treatment. Patients with these chronic symptoms often

> report joint inflammation and arthritis, memory loss, mood changes

>

> and sleep disorders, among other health problems.

>

> Some also fear they face a similar fate as those with untreated

Lyme

> disease — including carditis, also called heart inflammation, and

> nerve damage.

>

> The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lists Northern

> California as an active region for Lyme disease transmission,

> although it's most prevalent in the Northeastern and Great Lake

> states. The bacteria are spread primarily by Western black-legged

> ticks in California and deer ticks in other regions of the country.

>

> " There's no doubt about it, it's here, " Barthold said. But in a

> novel ecological twist, when young ticks feed on a certain species

> of lizard, something in the lizard's blood clears the Lyme disease-

> causing bacteria from the tick, so most adult ticks in California

> aren't infectious. Barthold said it's a key reason for the region's

> lower rate.

>

> While some patients and their doctors advocate continued use of

> antibiotics for weeks, months or even years to combat the

condition,

> the CDC and other major medical organizations state that evidence

> doesn't support more than two rounds of antibiotics, and that more

> aggressive treatment can prove harmful.

>

> That leaves those with chronic symptoms long after initial

treatment

> paying costly bills should they pursue continued antibiotic

> administration. Many insurers decline to cover long-term treatment

> for the condition, citing a lack of proven effectiveness.

>

> Patients also report coping with anxiety and frustration over the

> limited medical options available to them for relieving their

> symptoms. Numerous Lyme disease advocacy groups have formed to call

> for better diagnosis and treatment protocols.

>

> The UC researchers infected three groups of mice with

Borrelia

> burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes Lyme disease. Mice showed

> comparable symptoms of Lyme disease as humans and responded

> similarly to antibiotic treatment.

>

> One group of mice received antibiotics during the first three weeks

> of infection, while another got antibiotics four months later. The

> third group received only a placebo.

>

> When the treatments were completed, the placebo group showed

> continued infection in a standard lab test, while the two

> antibiotics groups showed no trace of the bacteria using the same

> test.

>

> Nonetheless, researchers still found small numbers of Borrelia

> persisting in collagen-rich tissue in the antibiotic-treated mice

> that the lab tests missed. Collagen, a connective tissue, is found

> throughout the body, including in the skin, ligaments, tendons and

> the heart muscle. Barthold said it requires a tissue sample to find

> any hidden bacteria.

>

> " It's an invasive procedure the medical practice simply doesn't

do, "

> he said.

>

> In addition, ticks that fed on the antibiotic-treated mice still

> picked up the Lyme disease bacteria and transferred them to

> uninfected mice. These mice, however, didn't develop Lyme disease,

> since the hidden bacteria doesn't replicate like normal bacteria.

>

> Testing in doctors' offices for this elusive type of Borrelia would

> provide limited value at this stage, Barthold added, since there's

> no known way to clear it out. He agrees with CDC guidelines warning

> against long-term antibiotic treatment.

>

> " If the first round of antibiotics hasn't eliminated them, it's not

> likely that a longer regimen of antibiotics would be any more

> successful, " Barthold said. " It's more likely that a completely

> different class of antibiotics would be needed to accomplish that. "

>

> But the findings do provide another explanation for the persistent

> symptoms reported by those treated for Lyme disease, particularly

> people who didn't swiftly get antibiotics following an infection.

>

> Barthold said it appears these elusive Borrelia don't replicate,

and

> instead remain dormant, as microbes causing herpes, tuberculosis

and

> syphilis often do. He said it is unknown at this stage if these

> Borrelia may re-emerge and cause recurrent disease, although that's

> an area he and others intend to study.

>

> But the nondividing Borrelia could release proteins that " may

elicit

> continued symptoms in Lyme disease patients, " he said.

>

> Barthold said he sympathizes with those coping with chronic

symptoms

> following a Lyme disease infection.

>

> " Everybody wants an answer, and I don't blame them, " he said.

>

> For now, Barthold said the crucial result of his study is its role

> in creating an animal model that will allow researchers to study a

> variety of antibiotic treatments that eliminate even the hidden

> Borrelia, which ideally would one day work on humans as well.

>

> " We can use that animal model — to test other antibiotic

modalities,

> and as the best way to completely cure them of their infection, "

> Barthold said.

>

> Reach Suzanne Bohan at sbohan@... or 650-348-4324

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

As to lyme:

My MRI[i had 2]showed lyme,and when I researched it the symtoms were

kindred to fibromyalgia. A Western blot blood work showed that I did

not have lyme. I did however find a product, from a web site, I think

it was www.lymelady.com out of florida. The product was a very

concentrated liquid, that required only drops. A nurapath I had seen

sold me the same product!!

Peace-Love-Oneness

Dona anIn no-forced-vaccination , RRM <rmor67@...>

wrote:

>

>

>

> Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says

> Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment

>

> By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

> Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT

>

> http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_8956433?source%

>

>

>

>

> By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

> Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT

>

> A recent study from the University of California, , provides

> the first evidence that the bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade

> antibiotics by " hiding out " in tissue throughout the body and

remain

> infectious long after treatment ends.

>

> " Lyme disease is a tough nut to crack, " said Barthold, the

> study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for

> Comparative Medicine. " The bacterium causing Lyme disease has

> evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising

> that it can also evade antibiotics. "

>

> The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant,

> although it still produced proteins potentially capable of

> continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said.

>

> The article appeared in the March issue of the journal

Antimicrobial

> Agents and Chemotherapy, and the research was funded by the

National

> Institutes of Health.

>

> The findings provide critical data in the quest to offer relief for

> those certain they're suffering from the sometimes crippling

> symptoms of Lyme disease years after their initial infection and

> subsequent treatment. Patients with these chronic symptoms often

> report joint inflammation and arthritis, memory loss, mood changes

>

> and sleep disorders, among other health problems.

>

> Some also fear they face a similar fate as those with untreated

Lyme

> disease — including carditis, also called heart inflammation, and

> nerve damage.

>

> The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lists Northern

> California as an active region for Lyme disease transmission,

> although it's most prevalent in the Northeastern and Great Lake

> states. The bacteria are spread primarily by Western black-legged

> ticks in California and deer ticks in other regions of the country.

>

> " There's no doubt about it, it's here, " Barthold said. But in a

> novel ecological twist, when young ticks feed on a certain species

> of lizard, something in the lizard's blood clears the Lyme disease-

> causing bacteria from the tick, so most adult ticks in California

> aren't infectious. Barthold said it's a key reason for the region's

> lower rate.

>

> While some patients and their doctors advocate continued use of

> antibiotics for weeks, months or even years to combat the

condition,

> the CDC and other major medical organizations state that evidence

> doesn't support more than two rounds of antibiotics, and that more

> aggressive treatment can prove harmful.

>

> That leaves those with chronic symptoms long after initial

treatment

> paying costly bills should they pursue continued antibiotic

> administration. Many insurers decline to cover long-term treatment

> for the condition, citing a lack of proven effectiveness.

>

> Patients also report coping with anxiety and frustration over the

> limited medical options available to them for relieving their

> symptoms. Numerous Lyme disease advocacy groups have formed to call

> for better diagnosis and treatment protocols.

>

> The UC researchers infected three groups of mice with

Borrelia

> burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes Lyme disease. Mice showed

> comparable symptoms of Lyme disease as humans and responded

> similarly to antibiotic treatment.

>

> One group of mice received antibiotics during the first three weeks

> of infection, while another got antibiotics four months later. The

> third group received only a placebo.

>

> When the treatments were completed, the placebo group showed

> continued infection in a standard lab test, while the two

> antibiotics groups showed no trace of the bacteria using the same

> test.

>

> Nonetheless, researchers still found small numbers of Borrelia

> persisting in collagen-rich tissue in the antibiotic-treated mice

> that the lab tests missed. Collagen, a connective tissue, is found

> throughout the body, including in the skin, ligaments, tendons and

> the heart muscle. Barthold said it requires a tissue sample to find

> any hidden bacteria.

>

> " It's an invasive procedure the medical practice simply doesn't

do, "

> he said.

>

> In addition, ticks that fed on the antibiotic-treated mice still

> picked up the Lyme disease bacteria and transferred them to

> uninfected mice. These mice, however, didn't develop Lyme disease,

> since the hidden bacteria doesn't replicate like normal bacteria.

>

> Testing in doctors' offices for this elusive type of Borrelia would

> provide limited value at this stage, Barthold added, since there's

> no known way to clear it out. He agrees with CDC guidelines warning

> against long-term antibiotic treatment.

>

> " If the first round of antibiotics hasn't eliminated them, it's not

> likely that a longer regimen of antibiotics would be any more

> successful, " Barthold said. " It's more likely that a completely

> different class of antibiotics would be needed to accomplish that. "

>

> But the findings do provide another explanation for the persistent

> symptoms reported by those treated for Lyme disease, particularly

> people who didn't swiftly get antibiotics following an infection.

>

> Barthold said it appears these elusive Borrelia don't replicate,

and

> instead remain dormant, as microbes causing herpes, tuberculosis

and

> syphilis often do. He said it is unknown at this stage if these

> Borrelia may re-emerge and cause recurrent disease, although that's

> an area he and others intend to study.

>

> But the nondividing Borrelia could release proteins that " may

elicit

> continued symptoms in Lyme disease patients, " he said.

>

> Barthold said he sympathizes with those coping with chronic

symptoms

> following a Lyme disease infection.

>

> " Everybody wants an answer, and I don't blame them, " he said.

>

> For now, Barthold said the crucial result of his study is its role

> in creating an animal model that will allow researchers to study a

> variety of antibiotic treatments that eliminate even the hidden

> Borrelia, which ideally would one day work on humans as well.

>

> " We can use that animal model — to test other antibiotic

modalities,

> and as the best way to completely cure them of their infection, "

> Barthold said.

>

> Reach Suzanne Bohan at sbohan@... or 650-348-4324

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

As to lyme:

My MRI[i had 2]showed lyme,and when I researched it the symtoms were

kindred to fibromyalgia. A Western blot blood work showed that I did

not have lyme. I did however find a product, from a web site, I think

it was www.lymelady.com out of florida. The product was a very

concentrated liquid, that required only drops. A nurapath I had seen

sold me the same product!!

Peace-Love-Oneness

Dona anIn no-forced-vaccination , RRM <rmor67@...>

wrote:

>

>

>

> Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says

> Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment

>

> By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

> Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT

>

> http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_8956433?source%

>

>

>

>

> By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER

> Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT

>

> A recent study from the University of California, , provides

> the first evidence that the bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade

> antibiotics by " hiding out " in tissue throughout the body and

remain

> infectious long after treatment ends.

>

> " Lyme disease is a tough nut to crack, " said Barthold, the

> study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for

> Comparative Medicine. " The bacterium causing Lyme disease has

> evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising

> that it can also evade antibiotics. "

>

> The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant,

> although it still produced proteins potentially capable of

> continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said.

>

> The article appeared in the March issue of the journal

Antimicrobial

> Agents and Chemotherapy, and the research was funded by the

National

> Institutes of Health.

>

> The findings provide critical data in the quest to offer relief for

> those certain they're suffering from the sometimes crippling

> symptoms of Lyme disease years after their initial infection and

> subsequent treatment. Patients with these chronic symptoms often

> report joint inflammation and arthritis, memory loss, mood changes

>

> and sleep disorders, among other health problems.

>

> Some also fear they face a similar fate as those with untreated

Lyme

> disease — including carditis, also called heart inflammation, and

> nerve damage.

>

> The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lists Northern

> California as an active region for Lyme disease transmission,

> although it's most prevalent in the Northeastern and Great Lake

> states. The bacteria are spread primarily by Western black-legged

> ticks in California and deer ticks in other regions of the country.

>

> " There's no doubt about it, it's here, " Barthold said. But in a

> novel ecological twist, when young ticks feed on a certain species

> of lizard, something in the lizard's blood clears the Lyme disease-

> causing bacteria from the tick, so most adult ticks in California

> aren't infectious. Barthold said it's a key reason for the region's

> lower rate.

>

> While some patients and their doctors advocate continued use of

> antibiotics for weeks, months or even years to combat the

condition,

> the CDC and other major medical organizations state that evidence

> doesn't support more than two rounds of antibiotics, and that more

> aggressive treatment can prove harmful.

>

> That leaves those with chronic symptoms long after initial

treatment

> paying costly bills should they pursue continued antibiotic

> administration. Many insurers decline to cover long-term treatment

> for the condition, citing a lack of proven effectiveness.

>

> Patients also report coping with anxiety and frustration over the

> limited medical options available to them for relieving their

> symptoms. Numerous Lyme disease advocacy groups have formed to call

> for better diagnosis and treatment protocols.

>

> The UC researchers infected three groups of mice with

Borrelia

> burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes Lyme disease. Mice showed

> comparable symptoms of Lyme disease as humans and responded

> similarly to antibiotic treatment.

>

> One group of mice received antibiotics during the first three weeks

> of infection, while another got antibiotics four months later. The

> third group received only a placebo.

>

> When the treatments were completed, the placebo group showed

> continued infection in a standard lab test, while the two

> antibiotics groups showed no trace of the bacteria using the same

> test.

>

> Nonetheless, researchers still found small numbers of Borrelia

> persisting in collagen-rich tissue in the antibiotic-treated mice

> that the lab tests missed. Collagen, a connective tissue, is found

> throughout the body, including in the skin, ligaments, tendons and

> the heart muscle. Barthold said it requires a tissue sample to find

> any hidden bacteria.

>

> " It's an invasive procedure the medical practice simply doesn't

do, "

> he said.

>

> In addition, ticks that fed on the antibiotic-treated mice still

> picked up the Lyme disease bacteria and transferred them to

> uninfected mice. These mice, however, didn't develop Lyme disease,

> since the hidden bacteria doesn't replicate like normal bacteria.

>

> Testing in doctors' offices for this elusive type of Borrelia would

> provide limited value at this stage, Barthold added, since there's

> no known way to clear it out. He agrees with CDC guidelines warning

> against long-term antibiotic treatment.

>

> " If the first round of antibiotics hasn't eliminated them, it's not

> likely that a longer regimen of antibiotics would be any more

> successful, " Barthold said. " It's more likely that a completely

> different class of antibiotics would be needed to accomplish that. "

>

> But the findings do provide another explanation for the persistent

> symptoms reported by those treated for Lyme disease, particularly

> people who didn't swiftly get antibiotics following an infection.

>

> Barthold said it appears these elusive Borrelia don't replicate,

and

> instead remain dormant, as microbes causing herpes, tuberculosis

and

> syphilis often do. He said it is unknown at this stage if these

> Borrelia may re-emerge and cause recurrent disease, although that's

> an area he and others intend to study.

>

> But the nondividing Borrelia could release proteins that " may

elicit

> continued symptoms in Lyme disease patients, " he said.

>

> Barthold said he sympathizes with those coping with chronic

symptoms

> following a Lyme disease infection.

>

> " Everybody wants an answer, and I don't blame them, " he said.

>

> For now, Barthold said the crucial result of his study is its role

> in creating an animal model that will allow researchers to study a

> variety of antibiotic treatments that eliminate even the hidden

> Borrelia, which ideally would one day work on humans as well.

>

> " We can use that animal model — to test other antibiotic

modalities,

> and as the best way to completely cure them of their infection, "

> Barthold said.

>

> Reach Suzanne Bohan at sbohan@... or 650-348-4324

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> .

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile. Try it now.

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_8956433?source%25253Dmost_emailed.26978592730A3B8C7F471EACE0DA4EF2.html.B2F1EBF6E42CA25A9AEE9AD0D1CBC10C.html A recent study from the University of California, , provides the first evidence that the

bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade antibiotics by "hiding out" in tissue throughout the body and remain infectious long after treatment ends. "Lyme disease is a tough nut to crack," said Barthold, the study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for Comparative Medicine. "The bacterium causing Lyme disease has evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising that it can also evade antibiotics." The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant, although it still produced proteins potentially capable of continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said. The article appeared in the March issue of the journal Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, and the research was funded by the National Institutes of Health. The findings provide critical data in the quest to offer relief for those certain they're suffering from the sometimes crippling

symptoms of Lyme disease years after their initial infection and subsequent treatment. Patients with these chronic symptoms often report joint inflammation and arthritis, memory loss, mood changes and sleep disorders, among other health problems. Some also fear they face a similar fate as those with untreated Lyme disease — including carditis, also called heart inflammation, and nerve damage. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lists Northern Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT A recent study from the University of California, , provides the first evidence that the bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade antibiotics by "hiding out" in tissue throughout the body and remain infectious long after treatment ends. "Lyme disease is a

tough nut to crack," said Barthold, the study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for Comparative Medicine. "The bacterium causing Lyme disease has evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising that it can also evade antibiotics." The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant, although it still produced proteins potentially capable of continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said. The article appeared in the March issue of the journal Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, and the research was funded by the National Institutes of Health. The findings provide critical data in the quest to offer relief for those certain they're suffering from the sometimes crippling symptoms of Lyme disease years after their initial infection and subsequent treatment. Patients with these chronic symptoms often report joint inflammation and arthritis,

memory loss, mood changes and sleep disorders, among other health problems. Some also fear they face a similar fate as those with untreated Lyme disease — including carditis, also called heart inflammation, and nerve damage. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention lists Northern California as an active region for Lyme disease transmission, although it's most prevalent in the Northeastern and Great Lake states. The bacteria are spread primarily by Western black-legged ticks in California and deer ticks in other regions of the country. "There's no doubt about it, it's here," Barthold said. But in a novel ecological twist, when young ticks feed on a certain species of lizard, something in the lizard's blood clears the Lyme disease-causing bacteria from the tick, so most adult ticks in California aren't infectious. Barthold said it's a key reason for the region's lower rate. While some

patients and their doctors advocate continued use of antibiotics for weeks, months or even years to combat the condition, the CDC and other major medical organizations state that evidence doesn't support more than two rounds of antibiotics, and that more aggressive treatment can prove harmful. That leaves those with chronic symptoms long after initial treatment paying costly bills should they pursue continued antibiotic administration. Many insurers decline to cover long-term treatment for the condition, citing a lack of proven effectiveness. Patients also report coping with anxiety and frustration over the limited medical options available to them for relieving their symptoms. Numerous Lyme disease advocacy groups have formed to call for better diagnosis and treatment protocols. The UC researchers infected three groups of mice with Borrelia burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes Lyme disease. Mice

showed comparable symptoms of Lyme disease as humans and responded similarly to antibiotic treatment. One group of mice received antibiotics during the first three weeks of infection, while another got antibiotics four months later. The third group received only a placebo. When the treatments were completed, the placebo group showed continued infection in a standard lab test, while the two antibiotics groups showed no trace of the bacteria using the same test. Nonetheless, researchers still found small numbers of Borrelia persisting in collagen-rich tissue in the antibiotic-treated mice that the lab tests missed. Collagen, a connective tissue, is found throughout the body, including in the skin, ligaments, tendons and the heart muscle. Barthold said it requires a tissue sample to find any hidden bacteria. "It's an invasive procedure the medical practice simply doesn't do," he said.

In addition, ticks that fed on the antibiotic-treated mice still picked up the Lyme disease bacteria and transferred them to uninfected mice. These mice, however, didn't develop Lyme disease, since the hidden bacteria doesn't replicate like normal bacteria. Testing in doctors' offices for this elusive type of Borrelia would provide limited value at this stage, Barthold added, since there's no known way to clear it out. He agrees with CDC guidelines warning against long-term antibiotic treatment. "If the first round of antibiotics hasn't eliminated them, it's not likely that a longer regimen of antibiotics would be any more successful," Barthold said. "It's more likely that a completely different class of antibiotics would be needed to accomplish that." But the findings do provide another explanation for the persistent symptoms reported by those treated for Lyme disease, particularly people who

didn't swiftly get antibiotics following an infection. Barthold said it appears these elusive Borrelia don't replicate, and instead remain dormant, as microbes causing herpes, tuberculosis and syphilis often do. He said it is unknown at this stage if these Borrelia may re-emerge and cause recurrent disease, although that's an area he and others intend to study. But the nondividing Borrelia could release proteins that "may elicit continued symptoms in Lyme disease patients," he said. Barthold said he sympathizes with those coping with chronic symptoms following a Lyme disease infection. "Everybody wants an answer, and I don't blame them," he said. For now, Barthold said the crucial result of his study is its role in creating an animal model that will allow researchers to study a variety of antibiotic treatments that eliminate even the hidden Borrelia, which ideally would one day work on humans as

well. "We can use that animal model — to test other antibiotic modalities, and as the best way to completely cure them of their infection," Barthold said. Reach Suzanne Bohan at sbohanbayareanewsgroup or 650-348-4324

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Then might not the best move be to use something like one (or even all*) of these -

Iodine,

Colloidal silver,

MMS/Cl2,

even MgCl2 perhaps,

(and Baking Soda?)

- ie something that does harm to the pathogen directly rather than something working like an antibiotic that affects it's wellbeing indirectly?

*I imagine that such items are unlikely to interact.

Phil

[ ] Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says

Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_8956433?source%25253Dmost_emailed.26978592730A3B8C7F471EACE0DA4EF2.html.B2F1EBF6E42CA25A9AEE9AD0D1CBC10C.html A recent study from the University of California, , provides the first evidence that the bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade antibiotics by "hiding out" in tissue throughout the body and remain infectious long after treatment ends. "Lyme disease is a tough nut to crack," said Barthold, the study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for Comparative Medicine. "The bacterium causing Lyme disease has evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising that it can also evade antibiotics." The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant, although it still produced proteins potentially capable of continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said. Snipped!

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it looks like any thing is better than abx--i think this is why somany relaps. i think the mms, will get most of this. rogerPhil and Carol Conway <philcar@...> wrote: Then might not the best move be to use something like one (or even all*) of these - Iodine, Colloidal silver, MMS/Cl2,

even MgCl2 perhaps, (and Baking Soda?) - ie something that does harm to the pathogen directly rather than something working like an antibiotic that affects it's wellbeing indirectly? *I imagine that such items are unlikely to interact. Phil [ ] Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says Lyme bacteria can 'hide' from medicine, study says Behavior may help explain symptoms after treatment By Suzanne Bohan, STAFF WRITER Article Created: 04/17/2008 02:34:00 AM PDT http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_8956433?source%25253Dmost_emailed.26978592730A3B8C7F471EACE0DA4EF2.html.B2F1EBF6E42CA25A9AEE9AD0D1CBC10C.html A recent study from the University of California, ,

provides the first evidence that the bacteria causing Lyme disease can evade antibiotics by "hiding out" in tissue throughout the body and remain infectious long after treatment ends. "Lyme disease is a tough nut to crack," said Barthold, the study's lead researcher and director of the university's Center for Comparative Medicine. "The bacterium causing Lyme disease has evolved to evade the body's immune system, so it's not surprising that it can also evade antibiotics." The study found the hidden bacteria, however, appeared dormant, although it still produced proteins potentially capable of continuing Lyme disease symptoms, he said. Snipped!

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