Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Thanks Arthur, yes, I did all the good fats, and so on. I don't plan to do the o3 as such again. I'm just going to try and stay well, and forget about the " cure " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Tell me something better than ozone. I don't recall anyone saying that but I would think it is a wonderful start, better than any drug. therefore, I cannot see why we shouldn't start with something like ozone. Irresponsibility comes from HIDING ozone therapy from people. please be specific as to what is wrong with cleansing your system out as a start! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:38:40 -0500 (EST) I think it's irresponsible to tell people that IV o3 is THE answer to their problems. Ozone is a tool that needs to be used with caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Tell me something better than ozone. I don't recall anyone saying that but I would think it is a wonderful start, better than any drug. therefore, I cannot see why we shouldn't start with something like ozone. Irresponsibility comes from HIDING ozone therapy from people. please be specific as to what is wrong with cleansing your system out as a start! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI) San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 17:38:40 -0500 (EST) I think it's irresponsible to tell people that IV o3 is THE answer to their problems. Ozone is a tool that needs to be used with caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I think you are mistaking me for someone else. Azure standard is the cheapest; there was another online place that even with proper hazard shipping was cheaper than yours, which I noted online. I never said I would get it locally so I'm not sure what you mean by " lying doesn't cut it in my book. " If we are here on these lists to help each other in our healing process, hopefully we are not here to get cheap sources of h202 and then mark them up to make a profit to our fellow listmembers. > > Whenever your body detoxifies sometimes you will feel terrible and > your skin can show the wear and tear before it all starts to look > better. If you are breaking up things in the body, it is ALWAYS GOOD > TO HAVE A GREAT DETOX program going. You sure wouldn't want all this > bad attaching itself elsewhere. And inflammation can be a healing > crisis you are going through. Maybe your body is working on your > liver, did you think of that? Maybe it is time to detoxify your > liver and rejuvenate it and that is exactly what the body is doing. > > > > You can read up on HEALING REACTIONS AND INFLAMMATIONS on my > hydrogen peroxide page on the website below my name. It will clue > you in to what you might expect your body to do when detoxifying. > It's a wonderful read. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > GAle ^i^ > > http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com > > " Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are > taught in falsehoods school. > > And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a > lunatic and fool. " Plato > > > > We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " > between water and light > > Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone > > > > > > I was doing IV o3, not liver flushes. The amount of times that I > did and > > was going to do the IVs was well known on this list. > > There were no cautions beforehand. I take responsibility for my > own > > actions. I just want to caution anyone else who might be > interested. > > I believe that mega doses of antioxidants are required to counter > the > > IV ozone. IV Vitamin C if at all possible. > > This is my experience. > > I think it's irresponsible to tell people that IV o3 is THE > answer to > > their problems. Ozone is a tool that needs to be used with > caution. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I don't know Ken. All I know is we discussed it openly on this list and Gale was very upset and suggested that AzureStandard could bring down the whole industry with one accident; shortly thereafter, UPS no longer will ship their h202. A trucking company will but that is exorbitant. Somebody tattled on Azure, I'm not saying Gale, but somebody did. > Gale, I sure hope you did not report Azure! This Dept. of Homeland Security rules and regs is just another ruse to take away our freedoms! Did anyone have reason to think this was reported by Gale or anyone else?- > Best wishes and much love, Ken > > Ken Gullan > Institute for Research Integration (IRI) > San Diego, CA 92106-2424 > IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. > To contact me off-list use kengullan@c... or call 619-222-1104 > Re: My controversy with Ozone > > > Gale speaking of h202, azurestandard can no longer ship out of state. > I am hoping and praying you did not notify any authorities of this > situation, as I recall you being very upset that they shipped as they > did, but their prices made the h202 affordable for many of us, and > now it is not. I was quite chagrined to learn this when I tried to > place an order last week. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 > > I should add that the cost of 1000 mg of glutathione is probably > about $10 or something like that...I'd have to check. I can add that IV glutathione is useful in the blood serum, but it does not get into the cells where 90% is needed. For that reason I recommend to my clients that they use cold-processed whey and selenium. Glutathione shots are very old-school. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 She probably is. But I believe if the IV Vitamin C helped you that much you can find it more cheaply. THat is one of the highest price IV drips I've heard of. I do not want to do ozone IV anyway. I know some people do it. > Well Jen, thanks for sharing.......your " wonderful " doctor must be a > saint. > > I'm skeptical of people who are skeptical of my statement when they > haven't had the same experience. Do 200+ IV o3, and then tell everyone > your experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Gale, you might read my posts more carefully. I do not have an ozone sauna. I will be getting one. I like my h202 baths. They feel good. I can't say they've made a big difference in my health but I now like to take my baths with h202 and I preferred the cheaper price. > I or anyone else doesn't have to report this to anyone. Things do happen and I am sure UPS is checking up on site that say they are shipping via UPS as they too don't want their people being injured by this stuff in any way shape or form. > > But Ken, you are not considering that next person either. I just don't understand how you or Jill could be that inconsiderate. > > H202 has to be handled with care, EXTREME CARE and the boxes should be marked that 1 bottle or 12 bottles are in the box and it's a hazardous material, don't you think? > > And Jill, you are doing ozone, why are you worrying about H202 as ozone is 03 and H202 is 02. That doesn't compute with me but then again, I don't really know what you are doing either. I do know you have a sauna and as most think on here, it's better than H202 so why want H202? > > No matter what Ken, letting the next person know they are dealing with hazardous material is very important in my book, might not be yours but it is mine. > > Being legal meant I had to attend classes to know how to properly handle this material, what is recommended to keep it safe and to let the next person know what is in the box. > > My prices are my prices and a $20.00 extra charge has to be charged and paid to UPS. Soon I am considering selling a different percentage so that people who only want one bottle can get it without the additional shipping. > > Gale ^i^ > http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com > " Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. > And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and fool. " Plato > > We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and light > Re: My controversy with Ozone > > > Gale speaking of h202, azurestandard can no longer ship out of state. > I am hoping and praying you did not notify any authorities of this > situation, as I recall you being very upset that they shipped as they > did, but their prices made the h202 affordable for many of us, and > now it is not. I was quite chagrined to learn this when I tried to > place an order last week. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Please read Kane's work. And cite me studies. As I have seen studies that it is even taken up into the lens of the eye (animal studies). I have seen studies that IV glutathione alone has dramatically reduced hep c counts. > > > > > I should add that the cost of 1000 mg of glutathione is probably > > about $10 or something like that...I'd have to check. > > I can add that IV glutathione is useful in the blood serum, but > it does not get into the cells where 90% is needed. For that > reason I recommend to my clients that they use cold-processed > whey and selenium. > > Glutathione shots are very old-school. > > Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 > And Jill, you are doing ozone, why are you worrying about H202 as ozone is 03 and H202 is 02. It hasn't hit them yet, but using oxygen in the United States without a prescription in order to treat themselves with ozone or any other way is illegal also. That goes for oxygen concentrators too. Now, how many lawbreakers do we have here? Speak up! Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 So Jill, You don't think Saul marks up his Ozone units or anyone else does that's on this list with their products? How do you think they stay in business? No we are not making much and with all the hassles of trying to stay legal and putting out upfront money for the hazmat course, bottles, labeling of the bottles, artwork, pressurized lids, labels that are required by hazmat top go on the box, the program that UPS makes you pay for to ship legally through them it all costs money. Yes I think the prices we are charging is within reason. Sure it would have been easier to take my chances and ship illegally but as I said I was concerned for the next person. I do think of others and yes you were the one who told Shirley you were getting it locally. I don't think Ten dollars and 25 cents for 12 quart bottles is asking too much or Twelve dollars and 25 cents for 6 bottles is either but there will always be a $20.00 hazmat fee that has to be paid to UPS, plus shipping costs. These people who throw it into a plastic bottle, slap a label on it can also contaminate the h202 but hey you get what you pay for. Some are good and do it right but some do not. I know someone in Phoenix that bought some from a health food store. She tried to contact the company, they were listed on the website with a P.O. Box address only and no phone number, she today wonders really if it's truely 35% as no one inspects the bottles after they leave the chemical outlet. It doesn't bubble or anything, could be water with a little h202 in it. Someone who pays out the expense to be legal is more concerned about their product, I believe. That is only my opinion and you can take it or leave it but I am concerned for the next person who handles it and the person who receives it. Just my way I guess. Gale ^i^ http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com " Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and fool. " Plato We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and light Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone > > > > > > I was doing IV o3, not liver flushes. The amount of times that I > did and > > was going to do the IVs was well known on this list. > > There were no cautions beforehand. I take responsibility for my > own > > actions. I just want to caution anyone else who might be > interested. > > I believe that mega doses of antioxidants are required to counter > the > > IV ozone. IV Vitamin C if at all possible. > > This is my experience. > > I think it's irresponsible to tell people that IV o3 is THE > answer to > > their problems. Ozone is a tool that needs to be used with > caution. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Gale, your price is 3 dollars less than I paid per quart, 4 years ago, and then the supplier went out of business, complaining that shipping would soon be too high to make any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I have no local source, Gale, and I don't recall who Shirley is. Please look back through my posts and find my local source for me, as it would be MUCH easier. I will get it as cheaply as possible. That's capitalism--from your side, and from my side. I can't get Saul's knowledge and quality anywhere else. If Saul clones himself and the clone offers the same knowledge and quality for cheaper, I will buy it. I considered the tent sauna--a much cheaper way--but I live in an apartment and Ken very kindly noted that the tent leaks onto the floor. It didn't seem feasible. > > > Whenever your body detoxifies sometimes you will feel terrible > and > > your skin can show the wear and tear before it all starts to look > > better. If you are breaking up things in the body, it is ALWAYS > GOOD > > TO HAVE A GREAT DETOX program going. You sure wouldn't want all > this > > bad attaching itself elsewhere. And inflammation can be a > healing > > crisis you are going through. Maybe your body is working on your > > liver, did you think of that? Maybe it is time to detoxify your > > liver and rejuvenate it and that is exactly what the body is > doing. > > > > > > You can read up on HEALING REACTIONS AND INFLAMMATIONS on my > > hydrogen peroxide page on the website below my name. It will > clue > > you in to what you might expect your body to do when > detoxifying. > > It's a wonderful read. > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > GAle ^i^ > > > http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com > > > " Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young > are > > taught in falsehoods school. > > > And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, > a > > lunatic and fool. " Plato > > > > > > We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " > > between water and light > > > Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone > > > > > > > > > I was doing IV o3, not liver flushes. The amount of times > that I > > did and > > > was going to do the IVs was well known on this list. > > > There were no cautions beforehand. I take responsibility for > my > > own > > > actions. I just want to caution anyone else who might be > > interested. > > > I believe that mega doses of antioxidants are required to > counter > > the > > > IV ozone. IV Vitamin C if at all possible. > > > This is my experience. > > > I think it's irresponsible to tell people that IV o3 is THE > > answer to > > > their problems. Ozone is a tool that needs to be used with > > caution. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I considered the tent sauna--a much > cheaper way--but I live in an apartment and Ken very kindly noted > that the tent leaks onto the floor. It didn't seem feasible. > Why don't you consider a 15 dollar floor pan then? To expensive? Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 By the way, I'm plugging away tonight at an article on hyperbaric oxygen, ozone, sauna etc, and went back to find the research on neutrophils and ozone from Scripps: http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/e_20030303/babior.html Its super cool. Why don't I get a pan? A few reasons. I was also concerned about the material of the tent outgassing and perhaps being degraded by ozone and being unhealthy for me, even though this is speculation. Two, and this may sound ridiculous to you, but I am aesthetically inclined and I have a hard enough time with a chamber sitting in the middle of my livingroom, and now an ozone sauna in my bedroom. In order to fit it in there I will have to remove a closet door and find a very pretty tapestry and have it sewn to make some kind of beautiful curtain, and I may drape extra material from the tapestry over the sauna. My environment is important to me and my home is like a sanctuary with pretty colors and lovely things. I cannot figure out a way to make the chamber look better or different and its 8 feet long, so I just kind of view it as an anomaly. But a tent in my bedroom, I just wouldn't like. I know you will probably be laughing at this. But each to his own. > I considered the tent sauna--a much > > cheaper way--but I live in an apartment and Ken very kindly noted > > that the tent leaks onto the floor. It didn't seem feasible. > > > Why don't you consider a 15 dollar floor pan then? To expensive? > > Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I just used Den's sauna for the first time (no ozone) last night. Put a towel on the floor of the sauna = no leakage on outside hardwood floor. " Junk " steam pot produced adequate steam to maintain a steady 116 degree F temp measured up at the level of one of the arm zippers. Plenty of moisture dripping off my body either from sweat or condensation, don't think it matters which as long as you are moist and warm ozone will penetrate. All in all, I think the sauna is a viable alternative to Saul's sauna (Saul's looks like the best out there) for those looking to save money. One can always spring for Saul's sauna a few years down the road at which time Den's sauna will have more than " paid " for itself. I have looked but could not find a floor pan to fit the sauna. Dennis bjs17792001 wrote: > I considered the tent sauna--a much > > >>cheaper way--but I live in an apartment and Ken very kindly noted >>that the tent leaks onto the floor. It didn't seem feasible. >> >> >> >Why don't you consider a 15 dollar floor pan then? To expensive? > >Dick > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Dick, Where can I purchase one of those 15 dollar floor pans? Dennis bjs17792001 wrote: > I considered the tent sauna--a much > > >>cheaper way--but I live in an apartment and Ken very kindly noted >>that the tent leaks onto the floor. It didn't seem feasible. >> >> >> >Why don't you consider a 15 dollar floor pan then? To expensive? > >Dick > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Hi Why would liver flushing age you? I am about to try liver flushing but don't want to look 1000yrs old :-) Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone/Saul Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:09:39 -0500 (EST) Mike, I think you have a correct take on the situation. Ozone is useful in correct amounts.( I have had success using it as an insufflation.) However, there can be too much of a good thing. I was injecting 50 cc per day for 200+ days, and had harmful results. Recently, I have had my drivers license renewed, and the difference in my face is obvious. I looked like I've aged 10-15 years. My diet and other habits have not changed. IV Ozone is the only major difference. My feeling is that you must flood the body with anti-oxidants, and use the ozone as a stimulant, not a cure. This not to say that IV ozone should not be done; I would not count on it to fix your problem; but a small amount will stimulate your own defenses. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Sorry this question has already been answered. The post came in after I wrote the question Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone/Saul Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:09:39 -0500 (EST) Mike, I think you have a correct take on the situation. Ozone is useful in correct amounts.( I have had success using it as an insufflation.) However, there can be too much of a good thing. I was injecting 50 cc per day for 200+ days, and had harmful results. Recently, I have had my drivers license renewed, and the difference in my face is obvious. I looked like I've aged 10-15 years. My diet and other habits have not changed. IV Ozone is the only major difference. My feeling is that you must flood the body with anti-oxidants, and use the ozone as a stimulant, not a cure. This not to say that IV ozone should not be done; I would not count on it to fix your problem; but a small amount will stimulate your own defenses. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 BTW I was reading that the lead singer of the Red Hot Chilli peppers does lots of IV ozone - have you seen how good he looks. About 10yrs younger than he is. I guess he is not ill and that's the difference Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone Thanks Arthur, yes, I did all the good fats, and so on. I don't plan to do the o3 as such again. I'm just going to try and stay well, and forget about the " cure " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 It wouldn't age you.....however you can overdo anything.......the best way to approach liver flushing is to eat very light or even fast the day of your flush........keeping in mind that a liver flush takes your liver off line temporarily.....then lets it begin functioning again with renewed vigor.......doing 200 or 300 is insanity.......eating heavily before a flush isn't very wise either........liver flushes are good!! just make sure you follor directions and don't try to get too much out all at once.......give it time to flush and then let it get back to work......Robb Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone/Saul Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 05:09:39 -0500 (EST) Mike, I think you have a correct take on the situation. Ozone is useful in correct amounts.( I have had success using it as an insufflation.) However, there can be too much of a good thing. I was injecting 50 cc per day for 200+ days, and had harmful results. Recently, I have had my drivers license renewed, and the difference in my face is obvious. I looked like I've aged 10-15 years. My diet and other habits have not changed. IV Ozone is the only major difference. My feeling is that you must flood the body with anti-oxidants, and use the ozone as a stimulant, not a cure. This not to say that IV ozone should not be done; I would not count on it to fix your problem; but a small amount will stimulate your own defenses. OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I believe you are incorrect about that...........last I checked it is NOT illegal to treat yourself.....and o2 is available without a prescription.........Robb Re: My controversy with Ozone > And Jill, you are doing ozone, why are you worrying about H202 as ozone is 03 and H202 is 02. It hasn't hit them yet, but using oxygen in the United States without a prescription in order to treat themselves with ozone or any other way is illegal also. That goes for oxygen concentrators too. Now, how many lawbreakers do we have here? Speak up! Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Dear , Normal liver flushing will not age you. On the contrary it will help your skin look youthful and clear. However, 200 - 300 liver flushes are not in the normal range. Four or five or six is more like it. Best of health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ----- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " " <johnml@...> Reply-oxyplus <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: My controversy with Ozone Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 03:01:14 -0000 Hi Why would liver flushing age you? I am about to try liver flushing but don't want to look 1000yrs old :-) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm & pgmarket=en-ca & RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com\ %2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 > Dick, > > Where can I purchase one of those 15 dollar floor pans? > > Dennis What size would it take? I can buy 36 x 36 pans from Bramec corporation for 13 dollars and 13 cents each since I am a wholesaler. Don't ask me to supply them because I don't want to mess with it. Den is the one who should make them avaiable. Here is the part # 17695. Have him call 605 232 4311. Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 36x36 will do it just fine. They retail for $60.00 on their web site....... big markup!....unless it's $60.00 for 5 pans. Thanks for the tip. I suppose any local HVAC supply house should stock similar items. Dennis bjs17792001 wrote: > > > >>Dick, >> >>Where can I purchase one of those 15 dollar floor pans? >> >>Dennis >> >> > >What size would it take? I can buy 36 x 36 pans from Bramec >corporation for 13 dollars and 13 cents each since I am a wholesaler. >Don't ask me to supply them because I don't want to mess with it. Den >is the one who should make them avaiable. Here is the part # 17695. >Have him call 605 232 4311. > >Dick > > > >OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > >THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > >This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > >You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - >DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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