Re: vicki-- Doing worse on week 3 of MMS

[Guest guest]

I genuinely thought I was doing better week 1 and 2. But week 3 I am worse. My symptoms are terrible, not due to the MMS, have such symptoms before, but wondering if it seemed like it was helping initially, why not now? One alternative doctor claimed that MMS can possibly be bad for people with my type of illness versus other diseases (ie weak versus overactive immune systems). This scares me. Whereas others claim there is no difference, all immune systems not functioning are weak.

My aunt took one drop of MMS and she was throwing up. I need to dig up the info on how to avoid that.

Honestly, my comfort level has completely dropped on this board and while most people are good people, I feel exposed sharing my and my aunts personal experiences knowing someone can dervive enjoyment from our misery, but I have no other higher traffic MMS group to turn to.

I'd be happy to hear from anyone not involved in the earlier political discussion, in regards to this MMS question.

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

On 11/8/2008, Vicki (genuinelysweet2002@...) wrote:

> I genuinely thought I was doing better week 1 and 2. But week 3 I am

> worse. My symptoms are terrible, not due to the MMS, have such

> symptoms before, but wondering if it seemed like it was helping

> initially, why not now?

Because it is quite common for symptoms to worsen, and/or come and go,

during the process of healing.

[Guest guest]

On one of the ormus forums there is an occasional Saturday guest speaker on some

ormus

topic which gets stretched some times for good reason. On one of these calls an

unpublished detox protocol was part of a presentation. Beet juice being the

detox and

other juices being the juice to cut with. I use carrot juice, one part beet to

two parts carrot

and start slowely. One thing that was very much emphasized to stop in its

tracks, the

hurks symptoms, was to eat from one to two apples plus one carrot, the pulp of

such

would catch the detox poisons and lead them out the body without any symptoms

attached. I did this faithfully for a month and then decided, actually forgot,

to eat the

apples and I got some symptoms before I went back on the apples. I got to 50

drops of

mms one time a day for a week and was rather symptom free, but when I went on

the beet

juice I am assuming things got pulled out by this protocol. Many of my

symptoms are

reduced now and

some gone, but I'm doing so many things I'm no test for any one thing. If

someone wants

to try and eat some apples, no way around this you got to eat them it's the pulp

itself, and

see if they becoome hurks symptom free I guess we all would be wanting to know

the

results.

I don't always follow this forum so if someone does do this experiment please

keep my

address and let me know. To any of you reading this I would not suggest you do

the beet

protocol till you have the full email write up and I don't know how public that

would be.

But I would be willing to direct someone to that knowledge via the proper forum.

Ron

--- In , Vicki

<genuinelysweet2002@...>

wrote:

>

> I genuinely thought I was doing better week 1 and 2. But week 3 I am worse. My

symptoms are terrible, not due to the MMS, have such symptoms before, but

wondering if

it seemed like it was helping initially, why not now? One alternative doctor

claimed that

MMS can possibly be bad for people with my type of illness versus other diseases

(ie weak

versus overactive immune systems). This scares me. Whereas others claim there is

no

difference, all immune systems not functioning are weak.

>  

> My aunt took one drop of MMS and she was throwing up. I need to dig up the

info on

how to avoid that.

>  

> Honestly, my comfort level has completely dropped on this board and while most

people are good people, I feel exposed sharing my and my

aunts personal experiences

knowing someone can dervive enjoyment from our misery, but I have no other

higher

traffic MMS group to turn to.

>  

> I'd be happy to hear from anyone not involved in the earlier political

discussion, in

regards to this MMS question.

>  

> Thank you.

>

[Guest guest]

On 11/9/2008, dlanorlav (ronald.lavaneri@...) wrote:

> One thing that was very much emphasized to stop in its tracks, the

> hurks symptoms, was to eat from one to two apples plus one carrot, the pulp of

such

> would catch the detox poisons and lead them out the body without any symptoms

> attached.

This would largely be the action of pectin - a type of fiber present in

apples...

This is why I always take a combination of apple pectin, clay and

activated charcoal - it reduces or even eliminates even the worst herx

reactions for most people who take it as part of a cleansing program...

[Guest guest]

Simon....

I have invariably gotten the "detox trots" as soon as I get past 5 drops/empty stomach dosing....am curious if you think the apple pectin/clay (what type?:)combo would give me some relief and allow me to progress to higher doses? Thanks for your thoughts on this issue. judi

From: Simon <tanstaafl@...> Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2008 3:04:27 PMSubject: Re: vicki--[ ] Doing worse on week 3 of MMS

On 11/9/2008, dlanorlav (ronald.lavaneri@ sbcglobal. net) wrote:> One thing that was very much emphasized to stop in its tracks, the > hurks symptoms, was to eat from one to two apples plus one carrot, the pulp of such > would catch the detox poisons and lead them out the body without any symptoms > attached.This would largely be the action of pectin - a type of fiber present inapples...This is why I always take a combination of apple pectin, clay andactivated charcoal - it reduces or even eliminates even the worst herxreactions for most people who take it as part of a cleansing program...

[Guest guest]

On 11/9/2008, Judi Wallace (blueyes5724@...) wrote:

> I have invariably gotten the " detox trots " as soon as I get past 5

> drops/empty stomach dosing....am curious if you think the apple

> pectin/clay (what type?:)combo would give me some relief and allow me

> to progress to higher doses? Thanks for your thoughts on this issue.

Hi Judi,

I don't really have enough information to give you a definitive

answer... I guess it all depends on exactly what is causing 'the trots'

when taking MMS...

I do know that pectin and clay are bulking agents (not so much activated

charcoal), so yes, they should, if only in that regard... the main thing

to be careful of when taking clay, of course, is constipation... you

want to be very careful not to take too much, and/or with too little water.

Clay is always best if taken pre-hydrated - meaning, don't stir dry clay

into a glass of water and then drink it. Yes, you can do this, and no,

you won't die from it, but clay will absorb a LOT of moisture, so it is

much easier to become very constipated using clay that is not pre-hydrated.

For long term use, use pre-hydrated.

Here is a link to how to properly hydrate dry clay before using

internally (this is *the* authoritative site on the use of clay for

health, imnsho):

http://www.eytonsearth.org/preparing-powdered-clay.php