re: Baking Soda for cancer

[Guest guest]

Hello KathyYou wouldn't take 4 teaspoons at once. Itshould be spread out over the day. 1 tspin the morning, another an hour before lunch, another an hour before dinnerand the last one about an hour beforebed. These are not hard and fast rules.The person can adjust this to their schedule and lifestyle.I put 1 tsp of baking soda in about 3 ouncesof water. I stir it until the baking soda is dissolved ...a moment. Then I drink it witha straw. I have another glass of water standing by so I can quickly rinse the tasteout of my mouth. I don't spit it out. I justswish the water around in my mouth for asecond and then I drink it down. Eitherway is ok. Then I don't eat

anything for about an hour. I do drink water, however.You can put more or less water with the baking soda by the way. It doesn't matter.If you have more questions or comments,don't be afraid to ask. I warn you though,I may not always have an answer ...as much as I would like to think that I knowit all )Until later....Helen From: KM <edkathya2s@...> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 5:55:07 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: Real sick need some help: Tra. Overnight cancer cure

Helen,

How much water do you recommend mixing with the 4 tablespoons of baking soda?

Thanks in advance, KM (Kathy)

Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: Real sick need some help: Tra. Overnight cancer cure

I sent my aunt with Cancer MMS. Now I feel like I haven't done enough. I need to send DMSO and MSM to? I just don't know what to do. It's overwhelming. I can't cure myself and now the MMS isn't enough apparently. It's crazy, becuase via UPS it costs HUNDREDS to send a few ounces to Eastern Europe. But via usps it gets stolen....

I still dont get how diseases that have underactive immune systems like Cancer and Aids are grouped together with diseases that cause hyperactive immune system like Sjogrens and RA. If these theories are true, then MMS would be bad for Sjogren's making it worse. But if there is no truth to MMS stimulating the immune system and no truth to a "hyperactive immune system destroying healthy tissue" then I need not worry. I just constantly hear such things and I get really confused.>Hi Bonnie.>>You can read about transdermal use of MMS and DMSO. Just Google Overnight>Cancer Cure and you'll find it. Basically it's just making up MMS, rubbing>it on the skin and putting DMSO on over it to carry it further into the>blood system. It can cause redness an itching of the skin so you follow>that, in about a half hour, with MSM mixed into water. Immediately stops>the itching.>>Samala,>>>-------Original Message----- --> >I have been reading posts daily just not chiming in because I stopped usingMMS because it bothered my stomach terribly the second day of use. I keptusing it but then stopped because of

this.>>

[Guest guest]

On 2011-10-03 12:04 PM, lizz7711 <lizz7711@...> wrote:

> What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> baking soda if it does the same thing.

Cesium chloride + DMSO is definitely one of the things I'd do/recommend

for cancer, especially brain cancer... but you definitely need to know

what you are doing, don't just do it blindly...

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.html

[Guest guest]

Liz, I exposed the baking soda myth on Sept 17 2011 on this list:

<Coconut Oil/message/37646>

Simoncini used baking soda as an injection to cure cancer; I haven't seen

evidence oral bicarb works on cancer and I think that's still a myth.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why? there

seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a sugar which

makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's alkalinity kills the

cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out there.

>

> What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the baking

soda if it does the same thing.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz:

Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

a part of any cure, IMHO.

Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

Regards,

Jim

Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

there.

What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

baking soda if it does the same thing.

Liz

[Guest guest]

Jim...the problem w/ cesium chloride is that there is next to no people

testifying about its success, the only people claiming it works are the sites

that sell it, and then 2 or 3 testimonies. these is a cesium group that is

destitute, and all the old posts mostly confirm that it diddn't work for most of

the people!

There are way more testimonies for the baking soda and maple syrup. Then, right

now in Australia there is a doctor being cited for 5 patients that died doing

the CC treatment under her care. Then, on a nother forum i asked about it, and

a woman there tried it for 3 weeks and lost a bunch of weight b/c she couldn't

eat...my Dad only weighs 122, already has cachexia, so he can't lose any more

weight. It sounds so good, but I have so many reservations it just seems too

risky for an 80 year old man. If the baking soda idea can do a similar action

without the risks, i want to try it. Multiple myeloma is not like other

cancers...it is the one that they say can never be cured and is resistent to

most all treatments.

By Beck device, are you talking abou tthe Rife machine? My Dad is now drinking

whey, but there is also alot of controversy about glutathione inhibiting

apoptosis of cancer cells... MSM, not sure about trying it since I got such a

headache from it, moving mercury around and my dad has really high lead and

mercury... there's just only so much we can try that I have to be very careful,

we recently added a bunch of stuff including curcumin and quercetin. Alreayd

takes apricot seeds, zynergy, poly mva, D3, and more.

anyway, thanks for the input,

Liz

>

> Hi Liz:

>

> Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

> friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

> after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

>

> We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

> Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

> through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

> use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

> diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

> tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

> Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

> a part of any cure, IMHO.

>

> Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

>

> Regards,

> Jim

>

>

> Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

> there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

> sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

> alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

> there.

>

> What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> baking soda if it does the same thing.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Liz. Not sure whether you have heard of Essiac. Check this out

http://cessiac.mps-group.com

It is a new version of Essiac tested by the Chinese Government.

Joe

> >

> > Hi Liz:

> >

> > Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

> > friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

> > after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

> >

> > We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

> > Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

> > through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

> > use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

> > diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

> > tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

> > Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

> > a part of any cure, IMHO.

> >

> > Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

> > there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

> > sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

> > alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

> > there.

> >

> > What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> > baking soda if it does the same thing.

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

[Guest guest]

--Lizz

came across this recently thought you might want to look into it while the

research is going on.

Even thou the fda shut the product down the concept of vit c is holiding merit

http://www.oneradionetwork.com/newsflash/vitamin-product-banned-after-snatching-\

man-from-death-article/

Mike

[Guest guest]

I saw this video last year! amazing story!

Vit C is amazing...my dad can't take high doses of it since he's on Poly mva and

you cant' do high antioxidants w/ it.Since it's the only thing giving him his

appetite, we're not gonna mess w/ it...but the pmva is itself high antioxidant.

liz

>

>

>

> --Lizz

> came across this recently thought you might want to look into it while the

research is going on.

> Even thou the fda shut the product down the concept of vit c is holiding merit

>

>

http://www.oneradionetwork.com/newsflash/vitamin-product-banned-after-snatching-\

man-from-death-article/

>

> Mike

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan - do you think then that taking potassium salts in higher than normal

amounts could alkalize the cells and kill cancer? If so, how much? Is there

any evidence for this? your logic makes sense, but there are lots of poeple who

have done the baking soda thing safely and gotten rid of cancer...so there could

be something we just don't understand about how it works too.

Liz

> >

> > Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a sugar

which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's alkalinity kills

the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out there.

> >

> > What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the baking

soda if it does the same thing.

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Liz,

The Amega wand is already winging its way to you......you may have it by the

weekend.  Hope it helps even a little bit but you can let us know anyway, will

be in contact again soon to check you received it.

Regards,

Val

________________________________

From: lizz7711 <lizz7711@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Monday, 3 October 2011, 23:38

Subject: Re: baking soda for cancer

 

Jim...the problem w/ cesium chloride is that there is next to no people

testifying about its success, the only people claiming it works are the sites

that sell it, and then 2 or 3 testimonies. these is a cesium group that is

destitute, and all the old posts mostly confirm that it diddn't work for most of

the people!

There are way more testimonies for the baking soda and maple syrup. Then, right

now in Australia there is a doctor being cited for 5 patients that died doing

the CC treatment under her care. Then, on a nother forum i asked about it, and

a woman there tried it for 3 weeks and lost a bunch of weight b/c she couldn't

eat...my Dad only weighs 122, already has cachexia, so he can't lose any more

weight. It sounds so good, but I have so many reservations it just seems too

risky for an 80 year old man. If the baking soda idea can do a similar action

without the risks, i want to try it. Multiple myeloma is not like other

cancers...it is the one that they say can never be cured and is resistent to

most all treatments.

By Beck device, are you talking abou tthe Rife machine? My Dad is now drinking

whey, but there is also alot of controversy about glutathione inhibiting

apoptosis of cancer cells... MSM, not sure about trying it since I got such a

headache from it, moving mercury around and my dad has really high lead and

mercury... there's just only so much we can try that I have to be very careful,

we recently added a bunch of stuff including curcumin and quercetin. Alreayd

takes apricot seeds, zynergy, poly mva, D3, and more.

anyway, thanks for the input,

Liz

>

> Hi Liz:

>

> Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

> friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

> after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

>

> We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

> Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

> through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

> use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

> diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

> tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

> Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

> a part of any cure, IMHO.

>

> Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

>

> Regards,

> Jim

>

>

> Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

> there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

> sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

> alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

> there.

>

> What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> baking soda if it does the same thing.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Not so sure about whey reducing apoptosis, the reverse may be true, as the case

studies definitely show clearance of cancer with undenatured whey, and one,

Immunocal, is patented as a chemotherapeutic even on its own, covered by a

method of use patent against cancer. The mechanism is that as glutathione is

increased a lot in cells but it is hardly increased in cancer cells and this

makes them comparatively more vulnerable. I think some researchers " don't like "

whey and there will be some rubbish comments, but the science stands up to

scrutiny. About 50 case studies from before Immunocal was a whey product were

published by peer-reviewe and are listed here about third link down:

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > Hi Liz:

> >

> > Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

> > friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

> > after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

> >

> > We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

> > Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

> > through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

> > use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

> > diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

> > tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

> > Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

> > a part of any cure, IMHO.

> >

> > Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

> > there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

> > sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

> > alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

> > there.

> >

> > What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> > baking soda if it does the same thing.

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Val,

THANK YOU soooo much!! : ) Will let you know as soon as I get it.

Liz

> >

> > Hi Liz:

> >

> > Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

> > friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

> > after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

> >

> > We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

> > Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

> > through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

> > use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

> > diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

> > tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

> > Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

> > a part of any cure, IMHO.

> >

> > Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Jim

> >

> >

> > Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

> > there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

> > sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

> > alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

> > there.

> >

> > What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> > baking soda if it does the same thing.

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

yes there are mixed studies, thus the controversy. there is some unanimous

agreement that NAC and other glutathione producers do reduce apoptosis of cancer

cells...but w/ whey there are differing views. I'll keep giving it to him for

now, he needs the protein.

Liz

> > >

> > > Hi Liz:

> > >

> > > Sodium Chloride would be compelling if it were true. I have an MD

> > > friend who spoke directly with Dr.Simoncini several hours on the phone

> > > after I showed him the claims. We just got double talk.

> > >

> > > We have some excellent alternative tried and true treatments and Cesium

> > > Chloride is one of them. The Beck Device would be my choice after going

> > > through that that. It is well researched and documented and easy to

> > > use. And why not use MSM all the while, plus get him on Duncan's Whey

> > > diet? These are all inexpensive... they don't make you sick... Whey

> > > tastes great....and you can actually get totally well using them.

> > > Cancer appears to be a chronic wasting disease and nourishment has to be

> > > a part of any cure, IMHO.

> > >

> > > Too bad Royal Rife never got to teach us his secrets.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Jim

> > >

> > >

> > > Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

> > > there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a

> > > sugar which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's

> > > alkalinity kills the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out

> > > there.

> > >

> > > What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the

> > > baking soda if it does the same thing.

> > >

> > > Liz

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Alkalising the body is cancer preventive and part of the reversal of many

syndromes and disorders, but I don't think it's a cancer cure on its own any

more than ozone therapy is, and I'm an ozone therapist.

If it was used as treatment, excess potassium may upset the delicate electrolyte

balance between potassium and sodium. That makes potassium as a therapy tricky

and maybe dangerous.

Cesium chloride on the other hand apparently only enters cancer cells and kills

or converts them to normal function, without upsetting the body's electrolyte

balance as much. Electrolyte balance is maintained in the rest of the cells by

using some potassium with this therapy.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > Liz, I exposed the baking soda myth on Sept 17 2011 on this list:

> > <Coconut Oil/message/37646>

> >

> > Simoncini used baking soda as an injection to cure cancer; I haven't seen

evidence oral bicarb works on cancer and I think that's still a myth.

[Guest guest]

It works orally too. It is the rise in pH that kills the cancer not the actual

baking soda which is a relatively safe product especially when compared to

chemo. When we sustain urine pH of 8 - 8.5 for periods of time it does its job.

It requires multiple rounds.

To your health!

> >

> > Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why?

there seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a sugar

which makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's alkalinity kills

the cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out there.

> >

> > What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the baking

soda if it does the same thing.

> >

> > Liz

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz:

Beginning to get a handle on the issues. I have no experience with

baking soda and maple syrup. So, moving on:

One of the supplements that I recently reported on PectaSol-C is very

similar to MSM in the description of what it does, but it is apparently

much more mild in its action. It is a Modified Fruit Pectin. That is,

it is described as an " estritified " fiber molecule, meaning that its

molecules are modified and made smaller to make it more absorbable to

the body by a patented process. So when taken, it goes around and grabs

up cell garbage and cleans things up... again, sort of like what MSM

does. It has primarily been used as a an adjunct treatment for cancer.

However, there are two new products now geared toward prostate and

breast cancer . Not that these are applicable, but the idea may be of

some value. Both contain additional natural compounds such as curcumin.

In this case, your own supplements could possibly be used to mold it

into a proper treatment for myeloma. It is a thought.

The previous value in PectaSol-C has been in its stopping the blood

supply to tumors. (Int J Cancer 10:127(11):2530-2541). More recently,

in addition, its said that it helps cause cancer cells to kill

themselves (Neoplasia 09;11 (9):901-909) and helps stop cancer from

spreading (Am J Pathol 09;174(4):1515-1523).

When I discussed it here last week, some cringed at the price. It costs

$72 incl shipping on Amazon.com for 454 gms Live Link to buy it.

<http://www.amazon.com/PectaSol-C-Modified-Citrus-Pectin-Grams/dp/B002KVIC1G/ref\

=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8 & qid=1317735829 & sr=8-2>

First, you have to decide if it is a reasonable approach, but it sounds

safe enough to me and should not free up bound mercury like MSM will. If

it works for him, it is cheap. That is certain.

In any case, I am recommending it to all of my family to help protect

them from cancer and heart disease. There are no down sides that I am

aware of in using it.

The Beck Device is a really excellent electronic healing device that is

really very different from the Rife Instruments. You buy them from Sota

Instruments and attach them to your wrist. I have owned one for many

years and have used it for many things, but it cleans your blood of

microbes just as Rife did, but via a very different mechanism. We have

several dedicated to it and your Father needs one IMHO.

Duncan and I hang out in one of them and have for several years..

Kind Regards,

JIm

>Jim...the problem w/ cesium chloride is that there is next to no

people testifying about its success, the only people claiming it works

are the sites that sell it, and then 2 or 3 testimonies. these is a

cesium group that is destitute, and all the old posts mostly

confirm that it diddn't work for most of the people!

There are way more testimonies for the baking soda and maple syrup.

Then, right now in Australia there is a doctor being cited for 5

patients that died doing the CC treatment under her care. Then, on a

nother forum i asked about it, and a woman there tried it for 3 weeks

and lost a bunch of weight b/c she couldn't eat...my Dad only weighs

122, already has cachexia, so he can't lose any more weight. It sounds

so good, but I have so many reservations it just seems too risky for an

80 year old man. If the baking soda idea can do a similar action without

the risks, i want to try it. Multiple myeloma is not like other

cancers...it is the one that they say can never be cured and is

resistent to most all treatments.

By Beck device, are you talking abou tthe Rife machine? My Dad is now

drinking whey, but there is also alot of controversy about glutathione

inhibiting apoptosis of cancer cells... MSM, not sure about trying it

since I got such a headache from it, moving mercury around and my dad

has really high lead and mercury... there's just only so much we can try

that I have to be very careful, we recently added a bunch of stuff

including curcumin and quercetin. Alreayd takes apricot seeds, zynergy,

poly mva, D3, and more.

anyway, thanks for the input,

Liz<

[Guest guest]

It has done much for me, my mate, and some friends. If you want to look at my

personal notes write to me directly and I will send it to you.

>

> Someone recently said this is not a valid therapy. I'm wondering why? there

seem to be many reports of it really helping, esp. when mixed w/ a sugar which

makes the cancer cells " eat " it, then the baking soda's alkalinity kills the

cancer cell. Some pretty compelling testimonies out there.

>

> What about cesium chloride? I'm considering Cesium for my dad, or the baking

soda if it does the same thing.

>

> Liz

>

[Guest guest]

Meanwhile there is evidence that supports using potassium and other alkalai

minerals without giving either sodium or carbon. Calcium magnesium potassium EAP

for example; note, no carbon, no sodium, which will be more balanced and not

carry the high-salt risk of rhabdomyolysis.

Here's an introduction to EAP from Walter Last:

http://health-science-spirit.com/EAP.html

" After evaluating the treatment of several thousand multiple sclerosis patients

over many years Dr. Nieper found that hardly anyone of these patients had

developed cancer. Also in a 6-year study of 8 patients with repeated surgery for

colon cancer there were no further recurrences with calcium EAP therapy. A

report from the Hopkins University states that by using agents that elevate

the intracellular calcium level even fast growing metastatic cancer cells could

be made to undergo programmed cell death. Other carriers, besides EAP, that are

able to carry calcium into cells are calcium aspartate and calcium orotate. "

" ...Experimentally, we have been able to demonstrate that if we take the most

poorly differentiated, metastatic, fast growing, androgen-independent cell lines

available, and we use agents that can elevate the intracellular calcium, the

cells will then undergo programmed cell death and die. "

Worth a look huh?

all good,

Duncan

>

> It works orally too. It is the rise in pH that kills the cancer not the

actual baking soda which is a relatively safe product especially when compared

to chemo. When we sustain urine pH of 8 - 8.5 for periods of time it does its

job. It requires multiple rounds.

>

> To your health!

>

[Guest guest]

Duncan, thanks. Someone else here had recommended Calcium AEP for my Dad's

nerve pain, which I was going to order soon. Some say you should not give

multiple myeloma patients extra calcium, since they already have high calcium

issues...but I think that must be wrong. If this can help his nerve pain AND

his cancer, YAY!! And so you think this will also have an alkalizing effect

similar to what is claimed for baking soda?

Liz

> >

> > It works orally too. It is the rise in pH that kills the cancer not the

actual baking soda which is a relatively safe product especially when compared

to chemo. When we sustain urine pH of 8 - 8.5 for periods of time it does its

job. It requires multiple rounds.

> >

> > To your health!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

What's the best source to buy from ? I found Wellness, VRP, or another site

that sells the MYMAX formula...

Liz

> > >

> > > It works orally too. It is the rise in pH that kills the cancer not the

actual baking soda which is a relatively safe product especially when compared

to chemo. When we sustain urine pH of 8 - 8.5 for periods of time it does its

job. It requires multiple rounds.

> > >

> > > To your health!

> > >

> >

>

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for this info. I'm not sure my dad can take any kind of chelator right

now since he 's taking PolyMVA which has palladium bound to alpha lipoic acid,

and we don't want it to be chelated out. But, I may give this a try for myself

when I have some extra funds to see if I tolerate it better than the MSM. How

does it taste? Looks like the one can would last one month?

For my Dad, i'm now looking into the Budwig protocol - seems to have the highest

rates of anecdotal success of most anything out there. Am still considering the

baking soda also, despite Duncan's thoughts on it...too many people have

experienced benefits from it, so it just may be working by some mechanism that

doesn't make sense to him w/ what we know at this time about sodium etc.

I'll look into the Beck devise as well! thanks much.

cheers,

Liz

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> Hi Liz:

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> Beginning to get a handle on the issues. I have no experience with

> baking soda and maple syrup. So, moving on:

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> One of the supplements that I recently reported on PectaSol-C is very

> similar to MSM in the description of what it does, but it is apparently

> much more mild in its action. It is a Modified Fruit Pectin. That is,

> it is described as an " estritified " fiber molecule, meaning that its

> molecules are modified and made smaller to make it more absorbable to

> the body by a patented process. So when taken, it goes around and grabs

> up cell garbage and cleans things up... again, sort of like what MSM

> does. It has primarily been used as a an adjunct treatment for cancer.

> However, there are two new products now geared toward prostate and

> breast cancer . Not that these are applicable, but the idea may be of

> some value. Both contain additional natural compounds such as curcumin.

> In this case, your own supplements could possibly be used to mold it

> into a proper treatment for myeloma. It is a thought.

>

> The previous value in PectaSol-C has been in its stopping the blood

> supply to tumors. (Int J Cancer 10:127(11):2530-2541). More recently,

> in addition, its said that it helps cause cancer cells to kill

> themselves (Neoplasia 09;11 (9):901-909) and helps stop cancer from

> spreading (Am J Pathol 09;174(4):1515-1523).

>

> When I discussed it here last week, some cringed at the price. It costs

> $72 incl shipping on Amazon.com for 454 gms Live Link to buy it.

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> First, you have to decide if it is a reasonable approach, but it sounds

> safe enough to me and should not free up bound mercury like MSM will. If

> it works for him, it is cheap. That is certain.

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> In any case, I am recommending it to all of my family to help protect

> them from cancer and heart disease. There are no down sides that I am

> aware of in using it.

>

> The Beck Device is a really excellent electronic healing device that is

> really very different from the Rife Instruments. You buy them from Sota

> Instruments and attach them to your wrist. I have owned one for many

> years and have used it for many things, but it cleans your blood of

> microbes just as Rife did, but via a very different mechanism. We have

> several dedicated to it and your Father needs one IMHO.

> Duncan and I hang out in one of them and have for several years..

>

> Kind Regards,

> JIm

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> >Jim...the problem w/ cesium chloride is that there is next to no

> people testifying about its success, the only people claiming it works

> are the sites that sell it, and then 2 or 3 testimonies. these is a

> cesium group that is destitute, and all the old posts mostly

> confirm that it diddn't work for most of the people!

>

> There are way more testimonies for the baking soda and maple syrup.

> Then, right now in Australia there is a doctor being cited for 5

> patients that died doing the CC treatment under her care. Then, on a

> nother forum i asked about it, and a woman there tried it for 3 weeks

> and lost a bunch of weight b/c she couldn't eat...my Dad only weighs

> 122, already has cachexia, so he can't lose any more weight. It sounds

> so good, but I have so many reservations it just seems too risky for an

> 80 year old man. If the baking soda idea can do a similar action without

> the risks, i want to try it. Multiple myeloma is not like other

> cancers...it is the one that they say can never be cured and is

> resistent to most all treatments.

>

> By Beck device, are you talking abou tthe Rife machine? My Dad is now

> drinking whey, but there is also alot of controversy about glutathione

> inhibiting apoptosis of cancer cells... MSM, not sure about trying it

> since I got such a headache from it, moving mercury around and my dad

> has really high lead and mercury... there's just only so much we can try

> that I have to be very careful, we recently added a bunch of stuff

> including curcumin and quercetin. Alreayd takes apricot seeds, zynergy,

> poly mva, D3, and more.

>

> anyway, thanks for the input,

> Liz<

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