Re: Proper usage of MMS

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On 11/11/2008, Brad Andersen (bradandersen@...) wrote:

> I may be way off base here, but these are my personal MMS findings

> over the last 4 months. Please add to this thread if you have

> additional comments.

Looks like you forgot the most basic...

BACK OFF by a drop (or two or three) until you no longer experience the

symptoms, then remain there for a few days, then slowly start to ramp up

again.

Basically, you are supposed to use the initiation of these two symptoms

as a gauge as to when to back off... in other words, it is not

recommended or required that you just keep going.

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HelloBrad...

Many thanks for your insight....the "DTs" detox trots, as I have named them, have subsided after backing down my dosage a bit and then building slowly. I do agree that my pipes may not be pristeen...they're certainly cleaner than they were a month ago....but I also remember that Jim Humble noted some diarrhea is part of the detox throw-off....I think I just got overloaded. I also was unaware that dairy is problematic when doing this process....my usually dairy-tolerant system went crazy. Do you know of any way to be able to enjoy dairy--my greek yogurt breakfast is much missed--while doing MMS? I tried lactase...no help, and I do take a probiotic in the middle of the day to support the gut flora. Thanks. judi

From: Brad Andersen <bradandersen@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:52:32 PMSubject: [ ] Proper usage of MMS

Hello,I am seeing a lot of post along these lines:Questions:1) I get horrible stomach cramps2) I get horrible diarrhea (a.k.a. The Trots)Answers:1) If you are getting bad stomach cramps then I would propose that youhave some form of stomach infection like the bacteria that causesulcers and you should probably look into using Iodine or anothermethod to rid yourself of that problem. However, you may be a rarecase that simply cannot take MMS, but MMS is nothing more than anoxidizer. Perhaps you simply have areas of your stomach that do nothave a protective coating (not even sure if there is such an ailment).1a) Are you taking MMS on an empty stomach? Do you have too much acidin your stomach that the MMS is reacting with? Are you taking MMS 1hour before food and 2 hours after food?2) Here are my suggestions. If you have not done a colon cleansethen you literally have

years of crap built up in your system andusing MMS at this point is like peeing on a forest fire. You willspend lots and lots of time in the bathroom as layer after layer ofgarbage is removed from your colon. Do yourself a favor and try toclean your pipes with fiber and a proper colon cleansing product priorto using MMS (http://www.enzymati ctherapy. com/Products/ Product-Categori es/Product- Details.aspx? p=08410 & cid= 1343).2a) If, after a cleanse you are still having diarrhea then I wouldpropose that you have a fungal infection in your intestines and afungal infection grows far faster than MMS can remove it. MMS willsimply have you sitting in the bathroom once again. Instead, find anice anti-fungal product like Enzymatic Yeast Balance to do the jobright (http://www.enzymati ctherapy. com/Products/ Product-Categori es/Product- Details.aspx? p=08280 & cid= 2470)Finally, there is concern that MMS destroys good bacteria. It may,it may not, but I know that very little good bacteria can be found inAmerican dairy/yogurt products so do yourself a favor and simply takea daily probiotic, the only thing it is going to hurt is your walletand the only thing it is going to help is everything.I may be way off base here, but these are my personal MMS findingsover the last 4 months. Please add to this thread if you haveadditional comments.Cheers,Brad

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Try "Activia", tastes-good and works (for-me anyway).

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> Try " Activia " , tastes-good and works (for-me anyway).

Are you serious?

Subject: Danon® Activia?

So how can the products like Danon® Activia claim to restore

regularity for some? Well, that happens not because of dead bacteria,

but from inulin a soluble fiber additive, which happens to be a potent

laxative. Each serving of Activia contains 3 g of inulin. That's more

soluble fiber than in six capsules of Metamucil Fiber Capsules

laxative it has only 2 g.

Inulin is harvested from plants, and is broadly used as a filler and

stabilizer in processed foods. Without some kind of

industrial-strength stabilizer, ersatz dairy like Activia, which is

" cooked " from dry milk, would separate into water and solids before

reaching consumers.

In addition to inulin, Activia's label lists the following ingredients:

Cultured grade A non fat milk, strawberries, inulin, water, contains

less than 1% of fructose, corn starch, modified corn starch, natural

flavor, kosher gelatin, carmine (for color), sodium citrate, malic

acid, sucralose.

Danon® Activia Light Strawberry, 4 oz, 113 g

That's hardly a recipe of healthy food! Lets investigate those

ingredients:

a.. Cultured grade A non fat milk is a euphemism for dry milk

dissolved in water. Dry milk is produced by spray-drying skim milk at

extremely high temperatures. This process causes oxidation of

remaining lipids, which, in turn, are implicated in atherosclerosis

and cancers.

b.. Water. That's tap water from a municipal water supply closest to

the Danon factory. It's the same water with which you and I would

flush a toilet. While by itself, filtered and dechlorinated (I hope)

municipal water isn't particularly harmful, is that what you're paying

for with this " yogurt " ?

c.. Inulin is a known allergen reported in The New England Journal of

Medicine in connection to anaphylaxis, a deadly shock. Also, inulin is

a fructan?fructose polymer. Fructose and other fructans cause

malabsorption of nutrients in 30% to 40% of individuals, and they have

been implicated in thepathogenesis of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).

That's not surprising - after all inulin is a potent laxative, known

to cause diarrhea. And what usually follows diarrhea? Constipation, of

course. In addition to bloating, flatulence and abdominal cramps

caused by fermentation of inulin, alternating patterns of diarrhea and

constipation is a dead-on accurate description of IBS's primary symptoms.

d.. Carmine (E 120) is a bright red artificial color harvested from

scaleinsects. Just like inulin, it's known to cause anaphylaxis in

some individuals?particularly long-term vegans, and Jews and Muslims

who observe kashrut and halaal (respective religious dietary rules).

e.. Sucralose (E 955), a.k.a. Splenda® an artificial sweetener. It has

been reported to cause migraines, DNA damage, and thymus degeneration.

The thymus produces T-cells, which play a central role in adaptive

immunity.

f.. Malic acid (E 296) is a known mouth irritant and caries-causing

agent. It gives Activia its tartness and makes teeth sensitive to hot

and cold just like any other strong acid would do. That's the same

effect as from eating sour green apples, which contain minute

quantities of malic acid.

The remaining ingredients (corn starch, gelatin, sodium citrate) in

Activiaare less offensive fillers and preservatives, but they too have

about as much business being in healthy yogurt as rat's excrement does

in your dinner. I hope you didn't vomit.

Finally, if you are experiencing bloating, flatulence, or abdominal

discomfort after eating processed yogurt or ice cream, you are likely

being affected by soluble fiber fillers, such as inulin, guar gum,

agar, or pectin. To exclude junk food like Activia from your diet,

just read the labels. By law, it's all printed there.

To summarize: beware when dealing with lawful cheats. They ruthlessly

mint money at the expense of your and your children's health and

longevity. The problem here isn't that Activia is junk that,

unfortunately, is still legal to sell. The problem is that Danon

ruthlessly markets it as " health " food to unsuspecting consumers. Even

more disgraceful - it preys on and exploits adults and children with

digestive disorders, who are the first to use this devil's brew.

It's in you power to stop this travesty and tragedy. Bring a copy of

this page to your supermarket, grocery store, or cafeteria,

particularly so-called organic stores such as Whole Foods. Ask them to

remove Danon products from their shelves. Do not patronize stores that

sell this Euro-trash. Contact your stockbroker or mutual fund and ask

them to divest Danon's stock. Send a link to this page to your

representatives in Congress, and demand action. The change will come.

They all have kids and grandkids too. "

-- my favorite Russian right now, KONSTANTIN MONASTYRSKY

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Here - Go "wacky-packy" with-them and their White Paper to Health Professionals......

You wouldn't want-to reveal your "inside" source to-us would-you??

I've been-around a long-time and seen all-this "insect-guts" paranoia before.....

It's maybe not what you're eating, but what you're smoking(?)

Although the FD & C Red in Kool-Aid can have strange-effects also!!

Don't try-to "enroll" me in some juvenile banter.

I won't respond....

http://www.activia.us.com/pdf/Act_scientific_summary.pdf?v1

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As-concerns your attack on Activia -

Here - Go "wacky-packy" with-them and their White Paper to Health Professionals......

You wouldn't want-to reveal your "inside" source to-us would-you??

I've been-around a long-time and seen all-this "insect-guts" paranoia before.....

It's maybe not what you're eating, but what you're smoking(?)

Although the FD & C Red in Kool-Aid can have strange-effects also!!

Don't try-to "enroll" me in some juvenile banter.

I won't respond....

http://www.activia.us.com/pdf/Act_scientific_summary.pdf?v1

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> Here - Go " wacky-packy " with-them and their White Paper to Health

> Professionals......

Uh, didn't mean to ruffle feathers. Although, it sounds like it's too

late for that.

<scratching head>

If only I knew what " wacky-packy " meant ...

> You wouldn't want-to reveal your " inside " source to-us would-you??

I thought I had. KONSTANTIN MONASTYRSKY is one of the great post

allopathic thinkers of our time. Nothing " inside " about him.

www.fibermenace.com

The article I posted was outdated, yes, but the message is still the

same. Danon Activia is not a healthy or life-giving food. Your money

would probably go further with a box of twinkies.

http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/flora.html

-vanessa

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I'm curious if anyone else agrees that a colon cleanse will help reduce MMS-induced nausea. I'm also curious if anyone else likes the Enzymatic Therapy products.AlanOn Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Brad Andersen <bradandersen@...> wrote:

Hello,

I am seeing a lot of post along these lines:

Questions:

1) I get horrible stomach cramps

2) I get horrible diarrhea (a.k.a. The Trots)

Answers:

1) If you are getting bad stomach cramps then I would propose that you

have some form of stomach infection like the bacteria that causes

ulcers and you should probably look into using Iodine or another

method to rid yourself of that problem. However, you may be a rare

case that simply cannot take MMS, but MMS is nothing more than an

oxidizer. Perhaps you simply have areas of your stomach that do not

have a protective coating (not even sure if there is such an ailment).

1a) Are you taking MMS on an empty stomach? Do you have too much acid

in your stomach that the MMS is reacting with? Are you taking MMS 1

hour before food and 2 hours after food?

2) Here are my suggestions. If you have not done a colon cleanse

then you literally have years of crap built up in your system and

using MMS at this point is like peeing on a forest fire. You will

spend lots and lots of time in the bathroom as layer after layer of

garbage is removed from your colon. Do yourself a favor and try to

clean your pipes with fiber and a proper colon cleansing product prior

to using MMS (http://www.enzymatictherapy.com/Products/Product-Categories/Product-Details.aspx?p=08410 & cid=1343).

2a) If, after a cleanse you are still having diarrhea then I would

propose that you have a fungal infection in your intestines and a

fungal infection grows far faster than MMS can remove it. MMS will

simply have you sitting in the bathroom once again. Instead, find a

nice anti-fungal product like Enzymatic Yeast Balance to do the job

right (http://www.enzymatictherapy.com/Products/Product-Categories/Product-Details.aspx?p=08280 & cid=2470)

Finally, there is concern that MMS destroys good bacteria. It may,

it may not, but I know that very little good bacteria can be found in

American dairy/yogurt products so do yourself a favor and simply take

a daily probiotic, the only thing it is going to hurt is your wallet

and the only thing it is going to help is everything.

I may be way off base here, but these are my personal MMS findings

over the last 4 months. Please add to this thread if you have

additional comments.

Cheers,

Brad

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