Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Dear Phil, 1. No 2. Ozone sauna is much more effective 3. Good question. Theoretically, ozone is converted back to oxygen by heat. In practice, the cabinet is full of ozone. Theoretically, ozone + moisture = hydrogen peroxide. In practice, doesn't happen. 4. Ozone enters the body through open pores. Its reaction products go everywhere, enabling us to deal successfully with bone cancer. It doesn't get any deeper than that. 5.Theoretically yes. In practice, I haven't seen it. 6.Good product if you can live in your bathroom. Indispensable for people who are constipated and dealing with cancer. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Newbie with questions... > > Hello, > > 1) Is breathing concentrated oxygen during sauna helpful? > 2) How is steam-ozone sauna different from peroxide baths? > 3) Chemistry-wise what happens when ozone hits steam? > 4) How does steam-ozone enter the body and how far does it get? > 5) Is EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy) helpful? > 6) Any thoughts on usage of Homozon? > > Thanks, > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 " Good question. Theoretically, ozone is converted back to oxygen by heat. " I can smell ozone from my sauna. So apparently not all ozone is converted back to oxygen. Dennis Newbie with questions... > > > > > > Hello, > > > > 1) Is breathing concentrated oxygen during sauna helpful? > > 2) How is steam-ozone sauna different from peroxide baths? > > 3) Chemistry-wise what happens when ozone hits steam? > > 4) How does steam-ozone enter the body and how far does it get? > > 5) Is EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy) helpful? > > 6) Any thoughts on usage of Homozon? > > > > Thanks, > > Phil > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Me too and I can taste it and smell it on me later. > " Good question. Theoretically, ozone is converted back to oxygen by heat. " > > I can smell ozone from my sauna. So apparently not all ozone is converted > back to oxygen. > > Dennis > > > Newbie with questions... > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > 1) Is breathing concentrated oxygen during sauna helpful? > > > 2) How is steam-ozone sauna different from peroxide baths? > > > 3) Chemistry-wise what happens when ozone hits steam? > > > 4) How does steam-ozone enter the body and how far does it get? > > > 5) Is EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy) helpful? > > > 6) Any thoughts on usage of Homozon? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 Hi Dr. Saul Pressman: Thank you for your comments. > > 1) Is breathing concentrated oxygen during sauna helpful? > 1. No Okay. > > 2) How is steam-ozone sauna different from peroxide baths? > 2. Ozone sauna is much more effective What about sauna followed by peroxide bath? Are there studies showing the difference between ozone sauna over just sauna itself? > > 3) Chemistry-wise what happens when ozone hits steam? > 3. Good question. Theoretically, ozone is converted back to oxygen > by heat. In practice, the cabinet is full of ozone. Theoretically, > ozone + moisture = hydrogen peroxide. In practice, doesn't happen. Any explaination as to why theory and practice differ here? I can probably ask a chemist and report back. I believe the ozone would turn into hydrogen peroxide and then into water and oxygen. Do any people experience the skin blistering or bleaching that would be associated with exposure to hydrogen peroxide? Some remarked they could smell ozone but when I looked it up there only has to be 3 parts per billion to smell it. > > 4) How does steam-ozone enter the body and how far does it get? > 4. Ozone enters the body through open pores. Its reaction products > go everywhere, enabling us to deal successfully with bone cancer. > It doesn't get any deeper than that. Are there studies or literature showing the effectiveness of steam-ozone for bone cancer? > > 5) Is EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy) helpful? > 5.Theoretically yes. In practice, I haven't seen it. How many of your patients tried it? > > 6) Any thoughts on usage of Homozon? > 6.Good product if you can live in your bathroom. Indispensable for > people who are constipated and dealing with cancer. I am looking for an oxygen therapy to try before spending $5000 on an ozone generator, oxygen concentrator, and sauna cabnet. Would that be hydrogen peroxide? Homozon? Dynamo2? Colozone? Oxy Moxy? etc... Thanks, Phil P.S. Has anyone had luck with the inexpensive " cube with your head sticking out " FIR saunas sold on ebay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 > > I am looking for an oxygen therapy to try before spending $5000 on an > ozone generator, oxygen concentrator, and sauna cabnet. Would that be > hydrogen peroxide? Homozon? Dynamo2? Colozone? Oxy Moxy? etc... > > Thanks, > Phil > > P.S. Has anyone had luck with the inexpensive " cube with your head > sticking out " FIR saunas sold on ebay? ====================== Hi Phil, Probably the cheapest would be H202 to start with. It's inportant to always dilute it when using the 35% food grade. If you want to try homozon, that is also a very good product. A little more expensive than the H202, but also does different things for the bowels. And you can always adjust the dosage so that you don't live in the bathroom. I happen to think it is excellent for a bowel cleanser and energizer. And, yes, there are report of successes with the fir dome sauna. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 > > I am looking for an oxygen therapy to try before spending $5000 on an > ozone generator, oxygen concentrator, and sauna cabnet. Would that be > hydrogen peroxide? Homozon? Dynamo2? Colozone? Oxy Moxy? etc... > > Thanks, > Phil > > P.S. Has anyone had luck with the inexpensive " cube with your head > sticking out " FIR saunas sold on ebay? ====================== Hi Phil, Probably the cheapest would be H202 to start with. It's inportant to always dilute it when using the 35% food grade. If you want to try homozon, that is also a very good product. A little more expensive than the H202, but also does different things for the bowels. And you can always adjust the dosage so that you don't live in the bathroom. I happen to think it is excellent for a bowel cleanser and energizer. And, yes, there are report of successes with the fir dome sauna. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Dear Phil, I wouldn't do a peroxide bath after an ozone sauna. Potentially you could create hydroxyl, which is even more powerful than ozone, and can damage even good cells. There is only one study done on ozone saunas, and it basically showed that there were positive blood changes that were parallel to autohemotherapy. There has never been a study comparing ozone saunas to saunas without ozone, but none is needed, because if saunas alone were sufficient to take on the myriad of diseases that ozone does, then the local Y would be inundated, and there would be no Finns with cancer, arthritis, diabetes, etc. I don't believe that the ozone converts to hydrogen peroxide in the ozone sauna, certainly not when the funnel is being used, which protects the ozone from heat and moisture, as well as concentrates it in one area. I would assume that a chemist would go with the science he has been taught, but that doesn't seem to be the case in the real world. A while back, Dr. Bormann had posted that ozone bubbled into water becomes hydrogen peroxide, and many people on this list who do that every day, including me, wrote back saying that it wasn't so, and the difference between drinking ozonated water and drinking hydrogen peroxide was like night and day. In 1994, when Vancouver was considering its options for a future primary disinfectant and residual downstream in the pipes, I proposed to GVWD that they use ozone for primary, and then have a series of outboard plants to supply hydrogen peroxide made by pumping ozone into water. They replied that you can't make hydrogen peroxide from water like that. In the end, I stirred up enough public opposition to chloramine (their choice) and support for ozone, that they were forced to install ozonation for the city. There are no studies on ozone sauna use for bone cancer, (or for any disease, for that matter). However, we have a number of people treated that way and they have amazed their doctors when they scanned clear. We have not used EWOT, but a colleague spent a lot of money for a German machine. She reported no significant improvements that she could see, and eventually stopped using it. A good place to start would be Homozon, supplemented by a couple of hydrogen peroxide baths per week. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman Re: Newbie with questions... > > Hi Dr. Saul Pressman: > > Thank you for your comments. > > > > 1) Is breathing concentrated oxygen during sauna helpful? > > 1. No > > Okay. > > > > 2) How is steam-ozone sauna different from peroxide baths? > > 2. Ozone sauna is much more effective > > What about sauna followed by peroxide bath? Are there studies showing > the difference between ozone sauna over just sauna itself? > > > > 3) Chemistry-wise what happens when ozone hits steam? > > 3. Good question. Theoretically, ozone is converted back to oxygen > > by heat. In practice, the cabinet is full of ozone. Theoretically, > > ozone + moisture = hydrogen peroxide. In practice, doesn't happen. > > Any explaination as to why theory and practice differ here? I can > probably ask a chemist and report back. I believe the ozone would > turn into hydrogen peroxide and then into water and oxygen. Do any > people experience the skin blistering or bleaching that would be > associated with exposure to hydrogen peroxide? Some remarked they > could smell ozone but when I looked it up there only has to be 3 > parts per billion to smell it. > > > > 4) How does steam-ozone enter the body and how far does it get? > > 4. Ozone enters the body through open pores. Its reaction products > > go everywhere, enabling us to deal successfully with bone cancer. > > It doesn't get any deeper than that. > > Are there studies or literature showing the effectiveness of > steam-ozone for bone cancer? > > > > 5) Is EWOT (exercise with oxygen therapy) helpful? > > 5.Theoretically yes. In practice, I haven't seen it. > > How many of your patients tried it? > > > > 6) Any thoughts on usage of Homozon? > > 6.Good product if you can live in your bathroom. Indispensable for > > people who are constipated and dealing with cancer. > > I am looking for an oxygen therapy to try before spending $5000 on an > ozone generator, oxygen concentrator, and sauna cabnet. Would that be > hydrogen peroxide? Homozon? Dynamo2? Colozone? Oxy Moxy? etc... > > Thanks, > Phil > > P.S. Has anyone had luck with the inexpensive " cube with your head > sticking out " FIR saunas sold on ebay? > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 > Phil wrote > > P.S. Has anyone had luck with the inexpensive " cube with your head > sticking out " FIR saunas sold on ebay? Hi Phil, I have used one for months and I worked up a good sweat but they were difficult to used easily i.e. many uses for 30 - 60 minutes each. I have since bought a lie down sauna of the type Dr. B sells for $2495 and I love it. Can sleep meditate, etc. while doing sauna. I can maybe still get them for $1695 for anyone on the list who would like one. BTW, I would sell my used " " cube with your head sticking out " FIR saunas sold on ebay? " for $175 obo. Still in good condition! Best wishes and much love, Ken Ken Gullan Institute for Research Integration (IRI), San Diego, CA 92106-2424 IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with developmental difficulties. To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Hello Gail, Dr. Sylver, Dr. Pressman, and Ken: Thank you all very much for your help! I will start with Homozon, H2O2 bath, and FIR sauna. A good friend turned me on to Oxy-Gen and liver flushes as well. With food-grade 8% H2O2 how should bathing be done? drinking? ear flushing? Any tips on Homozon usage? AFA FIR I'd prefer sitting. > A while back, Dr. Bormann had posted that ozone bubbled > into water becomes hydrogen peroxide, and many people on > this list who do that every day, including me, wrote back > saying that it wasn't so, and the difference between > drinking ozonated water and drinking hydrogen peroxide > was like night and day. I would consider asking a chemistry professor. If you can tell a difference I'm sure there is one. Regards, Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 gimme a few hrs to see what I can come up with on this for you . Right now I gotta get ready for ortho doc , I think I broke my wrist when I fell yesterday lol Newbie with questions... Hi!! I am new to the group and have a few questions. This past Tuesday I went to my Gyneocologist to recieve my results from last week's pap smear and blood work. The doctor informed me that my blood work showed that I was positive for Hep C and that he told me he was going to refer me to see a G & I doctor for further testing. I asked the doctor for a copy of my blood work. This is what the lab says. I have the Hep C antibody reactive signal to cut-off at 3.11 H < 1.00. Below is a statement saying the patient's sample tests reactive with a low S/CO ratio: > = 1.0 and <8.0. The CDC recommends supplemental testing such a RIBA or Nucleic Acid amplified testing (NAAT) for confirmation. Does anyone know exactly what these results mean? Since it states that my S/CO is low could that mean a false positive? I have been doing a great deal of research on the internet, but everything is so contradictory. I would appreciate any help or advice.Thanks!!DV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Share Posted March 9, 2007 gimme a few hrs to see what I can come up with on this for you . Right now I gotta get ready for ortho doc , I think I broke my wrist when I fell yesterday lol Newbie with questions... Hi!! I am new to the group and have a few questions. This past Tuesday I went to my Gyneocologist to recieve my results from last week's pap smear and blood work. The doctor informed me that my blood work showed that I was positive for Hep C and that he told me he was going to refer me to see a G & I doctor for further testing. I asked the doctor for a copy of my blood work. This is what the lab says. I have the Hep C antibody reactive signal to cut-off at 3.11 H < 1.00. Below is a statement saying the patient's sample tests reactive with a low S/CO ratio: > = 1.0 and <8.0. The CDC recommends supplemental testing such a RIBA or Nucleic Acid amplified testing (NAAT) for confirmation. Does anyone know exactly what these results mean? Since it states that my S/CO is low could that mean a false positive? I have been doing a great deal of research on the internet, but everything is so contradictory. I would appreciate any help or advice.Thanks!!DV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Has anyone had a chance to read my questions below? > > gimme a few hrs to see what I can come up with on this for you . Right now I gotta get ready for ortho doc , I think I broke my wrist when I fell yesterday lol > Newbie with questions... > > > Hi!! I am new to the group and have a few questions. This past Tuesday > I went to my Gyneocologist to recieve my results from last week's pap > smear and blood work. The doctor informed me that my blood work showed > that I was positive for Hep C and that he told me he was going to refer > me to see a G & I doctor for further testing. I asked the doctor for a > copy of my blood work. This is what the lab says. I have the Hep C > antibody reactive signal to cut-off at 3.11 H < 1.00. Below is a > statement saying the patient's sample tests reactive with a low S/CO > ratio: > = 1.0 and <8.0. The CDC recommends supplemental testing such a > RIBA or Nucleic Acid amplified testing (NAAT) for confirmation. Does > anyone know exactly what these results mean? Since it states that my > S/CO is low could that mean a false positive? I have been doing a great > deal of research on the internet, but everything is so contradictory. I > would appreciate any help or advice. > > Thanks!! > DV > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 DV, Please get the supplemental testing. The tests that you mentioned should confirm or rule out Hep C. Something similar happened to me in the beginning and in denial I waited for years until the symptoms were to bad to ignore. The key is to catch it early as you can. It was scarey for me to finally know for sure but now I wish I had started my battle years earlier than I did. It does make a difference. Get tested and keep us informed. I'm more than sure this group will support you 100%. God Bless. Chris > > > > gimme a few hrs to see what I can come up with on this for you . > Right now I gotta get ready for ortho doc , I think I broke my wrist > when I fell yesterday lol > > Newbie with questions... > > > > > > Hi!! I am new to the group and have a few questions. This past > Tuesday > > I went to my Gyneocologist to recieve my results from last week's > pap > > smear and blood work. The doctor informed me that my blood work > showed > > that I was positive for Hep C and that he told me he was going to > refer > > me to see a G & I doctor for further testing. I asked the doctor > for a > > copy of my blood work. This is what the lab says. I have the Hep > C > > antibody reactive signal to cut-off at 3.11 H < 1.00. Below is a > > statement saying the patient's sample tests reactive with a low > S/CO > > ratio: > = 1.0 and <8.0. The CDC recommends supplemental testing > such a > > RIBA or Nucleic Acid amplified testing (NAAT) for confirmation. > Does > > anyone know exactly what these results mean? Since it states that > my > > S/CO is low could that mean a false positive? I have been doing a > great > > deal of research on the internet, but everything is so > contradictory. I > > would appreciate any help or advice. > > > > Thanks!! > > DV > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 It means that you have been exposed to hep c , further testing is to find out if you have cleared spontaneously or if you have chronic active hepatitis c . A GI is going to do a pcr rna viral load (to see if you have any dectectable ) also liver enzymes . He may also do a genotyping to see what geno type you are . And at the end of all this if you are chronic active they will discuss biopsy, ultrasound, and treatment options . I hope my explainations have helped you a little . Newbie with questions...> > > Hi!! I am new to the group and have a few questions. This past Tuesday > I went to my Gyneocologist to recieve my results from last week's pap > smear and blood work. The doctor informed me that my blood work showed > that I was positive for Hep C and that he told me he was going to refer > me to see a G & I doctor for further testing. I asked the doctor for a > copy of my blood work. This is what the lab says. I have the Hep C > antibody reactive signal to cut-off at 3.11 H < 1.00. Below is a > statement saying the patient's sample tests reactive with a low S/CO > ratio: > = 1.0 and <8.0. The CDC recommends supplemental testing such a > RIBA or Nucleic Acid amplified testing (NAAT) for confirmation. Does > anyone know exactly what these results mean? Since it states that my > S/CO is low could that mean a false positive? I have been doing a great > deal of research on the internet, but everything is so contradictory. I > would appreciate any help or advice.> > Thanks!!> DV> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 hi there, i just ordered our first bottle of mms from globallight.net. on the bottle it says distilled water and %28 sodium chlorite. i thought there was supposed to be oxygen in there somewhere...chlorine dioxide actually. is this the right stuff? my boyfriend has been diagnosed with lymphoma. he has been on the dr. kelley (gerson) protocol and was getting better, but now has relapsed so we are trying this now instead: http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html which is a high dose transdermal mms treatment with a different diet protocol. anyone here ever done it that would be willing to share their experience--or anyone have experience w/ mms and cancer (or better yet lymphoma)? thanks so much, sabine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 oops, nevermind on the first question. i just read that it activates to be chlorine dioxide... thanks > > hi there, > i just ordered our first bottle of mms from globallight.net. on the > bottle it says distilled water and %28 sodium chlorite. i thought > there was supposed to be oxygen in there somewhere...chlorine dioxide > actually. is this the right stuff? > > my boyfriend has been diagnosed with lymphoma. he has been on the dr. > kelley (gerson) protocol and was getting better, but now has relapsed > so we are trying this now instead: > http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html which is a high > dose transdermal mms treatment with a different diet protocol. > anyone here ever done it that would be willing to share their > experience--or anyone have experience w/ mms and cancer (or better yet > lymphoma)? > > thanks so much, > sabine. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Yes, it's the right stuff. Good luck with the treatment, let us know how it goes.http://www.miraclemineral.org/AlanOn Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM, sabine. <impendingbloom@...> wrote: hi there, i just ordered our first bottle of mms from globallight.net. on the bottle it says distilled water and %28 sodium chlorite. i thought there was supposed to be oxygen in there somewhere...chlorine dioxide actually. is this the right stuff? my boyfriend has been diagnosed with lymphoma. he has been on the dr. kelley (gerson) protocol and was getting better, but now has relapsed so we are trying this now instead: http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html which is a high dose transdermal mms treatment with a different diet protocol. anyone here ever done it that would be willing to share their experience--or anyone have experience w/ mms and cancer (or better yet lymphoma)? thanks so much, sabine. -- Alan (alanmjones@...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i agree, but if you only knew how much information i actually have been reading and all that is churning in my brain right now and the critical situation i'm dealing with...my questions (no matter how obvious they may be) i think are good signs of that gathering in as much as possible before proceeding! cheers. > > ...it's the right stuff. > the question you asked indicate you haven't done your reading on MMS which > is a really really good idea before messing with it. > > > [ ] newbie with questions... > > > > > > hi there, > > i just ordered our first bottle of mms from globallight.net. on the > > bottle it says distilled water and %28 sodium chlorite. i thought > > there was supposed to be oxygen in there somewhere...chlorine dioxide > > actually. is this the right stuff? > > > > my boyfriend has been diagnosed with lymphoma. he has been on the dr. > > kelley (gerson) protocol and was getting better, but now has relapsed > > so we are trying this now instead: > > http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html which is a high > > dose transdermal mms treatment with a different diet protocol. > > anyone here ever done it that would be willing to share their > > experience--or anyone have experience w/ mms and cancer (or better yet > > lymphoma)? > > > > thanks so much, > > sabine. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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