Re: Re: MSM [not MMS] little known side effects.

March 10, 2009

Hi Sandy:

I have thought about this and if I were in your situation, I would be

detoxifying as much as possible with things like chlorella and zeolites

(Destroxin). At the same time, I would be testing myself with small

amounts of MSM over time for results.

Cetyl Myristoleate never did a thing for me and I have been through the

regimine twice. Also, there are side effects, but I can't recall what

they were.

Regards, JIm

ether_avatar wrote:

...

I know how effective MSM can be and that it has helped many people. I

wish I could take it. On the DMSO forum they have been talking about

taking CMO [Cetyl Myristoleate] along with MSM and how great it is at

healing joint pain.

Oddly enough I can take DMSO without any ill effects whatsoever. I use

it every day for joint pain and I sometimes use it with MMS in a

transdermal application.

I am glad that you can take the MSM without any side effects...many

people do but I am not one of them.

Best of health to you...

Sandy

>

> Sandy,

> I dont doubt you at all . I am very aware that all of these

experiments we are doing can have consequences . Some people can not

take MMS , some cannot take MSM.You have to listen when your body tells

you something. Yours says definately not! I respect your wisdom in

listening to your body.I do very much appreciate the warning to be

careful.Fortunately I have never been allergic to sulfa drugs and

I have taken MSM before, just not in this quantity.I have also taken

DMSO before with no negative side effects.So I dont think I will have a

problem. I will be careful and ramp up slowly.

>

> in NC

>

> http://www.chews4health.com/Wilkins

>

> --- On Mon, 3/9/09, ether_avatar <hollis302000@...>

wrote:

>

> From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@...>

> Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS] little

known side effects.

>

> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM

>

> MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side

effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at taking half

doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea,

headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns out I am

not the only one after all.

>

> I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth Clinic, MSM

cures and little known side effects.

>

> One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you

should not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa

drugs. I have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It also

appears more women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa Drugs and

should think twice before using MSM.

>

> I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically

been called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I had

bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right as are many

others who have side effects.

>

> It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so

called "natural" miracle products...if you don't, you might do more

harm than good.

>

> Sandy

>

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March 11, 2009

On 3/10/2009, ether_avatar (hollis302000@...) wrote:

> I know I have candida and the MMS has not helped it like I had

> thought it would so I will have to try something else.

Here's something you could try that apparently has worked pretty quickly

for a lot of people... the title page is misleading - it IS about

eliminating candida...

http://tiny.pl/sv6m

March 12, 2009

The Zeolites may be your answer, then. I give them to my dog to cure

his cancer and they have been perfect for that so far. They are

negatively charged and attract heavy minerals, then bind to them. With

your positive reaction to chlorella, it really all makes sense that

MSM and Chlorella cause these problems with you. I buy zeolites on

Ebay by the pound also. Strangely... just like I buy MSM.... the

only supplements that I buy in bulk. I take them myself occasionally,

but my dog gets them daily.

All of this should raise some hairs on your neck. Zeolites were proven

in a scientific controlled study with rats to cure cancer a few years

ago. I did not know why till recently, since they are basically old

volcanic ash, but they are excellent binders and should cause no ill

effects in any amounts. Again, you will have to test it. Destroxin is

relatively expensive compared to what I buy, but you can get it in

plenty of places. If it does not adversely affect you, you might

consider doing my "not for human consumption" route & going with

higher amounts.

ether_avatar wrote:

Thank you, Jim...that is something to consider. I do know that

whenever I take chlorella or any green whole foods [to add to my

drinks] I get violently ill. I guess that is my body herxing but my

God, I have to wonder how long I have to take it and feel that way

before I see some relief? I suffered through taking chlorella for 2

months straight and it seemed with the herxing there was no end in

sight. I thought I would try taking very small doses but the same thing

happened. I may try again and take even smaller doses and see if I can

handle that.

I know I have candida and the MMS has not helped it like I had thought

it would so I will have to try something else.

Regards...

Sandy

> > >

> > > Sandy,

> > > I dont doubt you at all . I am very aware that all of

these

> > experiments we are doing can have consequences . Some people

can not

> > take MMS , some cannot take MSM.You have to listen when your

body

> > tells you something. Yours says definately not! I respect

your wisdom

> > in listening to your body.I do very much appreciate the

warning to be

> > careful.Fortunately I have never been allergic to sulfa drugs

and I

> > have taken MSM before, just not in this quantity.I have also

taken

> > DMSO before with no negative side effects.So I dont think I

will have

> > a problem. I will be careful and ramp up slowly.

> > >

> > > in NC

> > >

> > > http://www.chews4health.com/Wilkins

> > <http://www.chews4health.com/Wilkins>

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 3/9/09, ether_avatar <hollis302000@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@>

> > > Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS]

little known

> > side effects.

> > >

> > <mailto: %40>

> > > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM

> > >

> > > MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having

no side

> > effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at

taking half

> > doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had

nausea,

> > headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns

out I am

> > not the only one after all.

> > >

> > > I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth

Clinic, MSM cures

> > and little known side effects.

> > >

> > > One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa

drugs you

> > should not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to

Sulfa

> > drugs. I have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It

also

> > appears more women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa

Drugs and

> > should think twice before using MSM.

> > >

> > > I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have

practically

> > been called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to

claiming I

> > had bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right

as are

> > many others who have side effects.

> > >

> > > It is imperative we do our research when taking any

kinds of so

> > called "natural" miracle products...if you don't, you might

do more

> > harm than good.

> > >

> > > Sandy

> > >

> >

>

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March 12, 2009

hey Jim... which bulk zeolites are you working with on ebay? seller?

...i love cheap bulk. know where to get any bulk assimilable selenium? or selenium sulfide???

bobL

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jimSent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MSM [not MMS] little known side effects.

The Zeolites may be your answer, then. I give them to my dog to cure his cancer and they have been perfect for that so far. They are negatively charged and attract heavy minerals, then bind to them. With your positive reaction to chlorella, it really all makes sense that MSM and Chlorella cause these problems with you. I buy zeolites on Ebay by the pound also. Strangely... just like I buy MSM.... the only supplements that I buy in bulk. I take them myself occasionally, but my dog gets them daily.All of this should raise some hairs on your neck. Zeolites were proven in a scientific controlled study with rats to cure cancer a few years ago. I did not know why till recently, since they are basically old volcanic ash, but they are excellent binders and should cause no ill effects in any amounts. Again, you will have to test it. Destroxin is relatively expensive compared to what I buy, but you can get it in plenty of places. If it does not adversely affect you, you might consider doing my "not for human consumption" route & going with higher amounts.ether_avatar wrote:

Thank you, Jim...that is something to consider. I do know that whenever I take chlorella or any green whole foods [to add to my drinks] I get violently ill. I guess that is my body herxing but my God, I have to wonder how long I have to take it and feel that way before I see some relief? I suffered through taking chlorella for 2 months straight and it seemed with the herxing there was no end in sight. I thought I would try taking very small doses but the same thing happened. I may try again and take even smaller doses and see if I can handle that.I know I have candida and the MMS has not helped it like I had thought it would so I will have to try something else.Regards...Sandy> > >> > > From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@>> > > Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS] little known > > side effects.> > > > > <mailto: %40>> > > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side > > effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at taking half > > doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea, > > headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns out I am > > not the only one after all.> > >> > > I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth Clinic, MSM cures > > and little known side effects.> > >> > > One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you > > should not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa > > drugs. I have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It also > > appears more women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa Drugs and > > should think twice before using MSM.> > >> > > I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically > > been called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I > > had bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right as are > > many others who have side effects.> > >> > > It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so > > called "natural" miracle products...if you don't, you might do more > > harm than good.> > >> > > Sandy> > >> >> >>

March 12, 2009

I lost my source, but a friend just found a better one (also on

ebay). As soon as I get his, I'll forward it if I remember. If I

forget, get back with me in a week or so. Be glad to help.

bob Larson wrote:

hey Jim... which bulk zeolites

are you working with on ebay? seller?

...i love cheap bulk. know

where to get any bulk assimilable selenium? or selenium sulfide???

bobL

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