Re: MSM [not MMS] little known side effects.

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Sandy,

I dont doubt you at all . I am very aware that all of these experiments we are doing can have consequences . Some people can not take MMS , some cannot take MSM.You have to listen when your body tells you something. Yours says definately not! I respect your wisdom in listening to your body.I do very much appreciate the warning to be careful.Fortunately I have never been allergic to sulfa drugs and I have taken MSM before, just not in this quantity.I have also taken DMSO before with no negative side effects.So I dont think I will have a problem. I will be careful and ramp up slowly.

in NC

http://www.chews4health.com/Wilkins--- On Mon, 3/9/09, ether_avatar <hollis302000@...> wrote:

From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@...>Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS] little known side effects. Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM

MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at taking half doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea, headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns out I am not the only one after all.I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth Clinic, MSM cures and little known side effects. One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you should not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa drugs. I have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It also appears more women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa Drugs and should think twice before using MSM.I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically been called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I

had bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right as are many others who have side effects.It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so called "natural" miracle products...if you don't, you might do more harm than good.Sandy

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Kind of makes sense... MSM is after all an organic sulfur. Since it

is a natural source, it should be far less of a problem than the drugs

however.

This would mean that you should have a similar reaction from eating

soup made from scratch though (too bad!!). There is probably a allergy

out there for every food, especially with all of the contaminants that

we are exposed to today.

ether_avatar wrote:

MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side

effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at taking half

doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea,

headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns out I am

not the only one after all.

I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth

Clinic, MSM cures and little known side effects.

One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you should

not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa drugs. I

have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It also appears more

women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa Drugs and should think

twice before using MSM.

I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically been

called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I had

bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right as are many

others who have side effects.

It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so called

"natural" miracle products...if you don't, you might do more harm than

good.

Sandy

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I know how effective MSM can be and that it has helped many people. I wish I

could take it. On the DMSO forum they have been talking about taking CMO [Cetyl

Myristoleate] along with MSM and how great it is at healing joint pain.

Oddly enough I can take DMSO without any ill effects whatsoever. I use it every

day for joint pain and I sometimes use it with MMS in a transdermal application.

I am glad that you can take the MSM without any side effects...many people do

but I am not one of them.

Best of health to you...

Sandy

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> From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@...>

> Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS] little known side effects.

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> Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM

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> MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side effects...yet

I had side effects while taking it...even at taking half doses of the

recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea, headaches and worst of all

anxiety attacks at night. It turns out I am not the only one after all.

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> I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth Clinic, MSM cures and

little known side effects.

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> One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you should not take

MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa drugs. I have never read this

could be a problem with MSM. It also appears more women than men have allergic

reactions to Sulfa Drugs and should think twice before using MSM.

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> I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically been called

me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I had bought an inferior

product. Now it turns out I was right as are many others who have side effects.

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> It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so called

" natural " miracle products...if you don't, you might do more harm than good.

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> Sandy

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>> It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so called

> " natural " miracle products...if you don't, you might do more harm than

> good.

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> Sandy

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Regarding MSM (methylsufonylmethane): Sandy is correct that we all should be

very vigilant to carefully and fully research any substance before we ingest it.

There is a very good book The Miracle of MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain by

Stanley , Regelson & Zucker. I have a copy but can't lay my

hands on it at the moment.

Some of the points made are that MSM has the toxicity of water but it is a very

potent detoxifier. If you take too much, you can mobilize too many toxins too

quickly. It can even mobilize heavy metals, so individuals need to be cautious

about the dose. (If one feels they are releasing heavy metals, they should be

taking some kind of binder such as French Green Clay, charcoal, or something

like Detoxifiber that will absorb the metals and take them out of the

body…something I didn't do and paid a heavy price with a gigantic headache that

lasted for a while). It is a very potent anti-yeast medication that can result

in a herxheimer reaction if the dose is too high. MSM can be significant in

pain relief because most pain is toxicity related; but an individual's threshold

has to be reached, and everyone is different. MSM is good for allergies because

the human mucous barrier is a sulfur barrier and the sulfur binds to allergens

and keeps them away from your nasal and sinus mucosa. As we age, the sulfur

levels in our blood drops as we don't absorb as much of it from our food, our

source of sulfur. This depletion keeps us from coping with toxicity issues. MSM

is also excellent for hair, skin and fingernails and softening skin and reducing

wrinkles.

As per my last post, it bears repeating that it is vitality important to buy

pharmaceutical grade MSM because of sulfur's ability to bind to toxins. If MSM

is manufactured in a non-sterile environment it will pick up whatever is in the

environment and can be extremely toxic. MSM I believe is used a lot in the horse

industry and can be found at some vets or hardware type places for a very cheap

price. These may not be pharmaceutical grade and can be dangerous.

Also, MSM is a derivative of DMSO; therein is the similarity of the

absorption/detox capabilities of the two products and the need to keep the skin

clean when using DMSO.

Bottom line is that we are all different and react in different ways, and should

proceed with caution. For most, though not all, it seems to be very helpful if

used correctly.

Hope this is helpful; I still want to find my book…

Diane

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Thank you, Jim...that is something to consider. I do know that whenever I take

chlorella or any green whole foods [to add to my drinks] I get violently ill. I

guess that is my body herxing but my God, I have to wonder how long I have to

take it and feel that way before I see some relief? I suffered through taking

chlorella for 2 months straight and it seemed with the herxing there was no end

in sight. I thought I would try taking very small doses but the same thing

happened. I may try again and take even smaller doses and see if I can handle

that.

I know I have candida and the MMS has not helped it like I had thought it would

so I will have to try something else.

Regards...

Sandy

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> > > From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@>

> > > Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS] little known

> > side effects.

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> > > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM

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> > > MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side

> > effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at taking half

> > doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea,

> > headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns out I am

> > not the only one after all.

> > >

> > > I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth Clinic, MSM cures

> > and little known side effects.

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> > > One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you

> > should not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa

> > drugs. I have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It also

> > appears more women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa Drugs and

> > should think twice before using MSM.

> > >

> > > I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically

> > been called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I

> > had bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right as are

> > many others who have side effects.

> > >

> > > It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so

> > called " natural " miracle products...if you don't, you might do more

> > harm than good.

> > >

> > > Sandy

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Tan...very much...

Interesting site. I have read Kelley Eidem's posts on Dr Mercola which are

usually pretty informative.

Sandy

> > I know I have candida and the MMS has not helped it like I had

> > thought it would so I will have to try something else.

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> Here's something you could try that apparently has worked pretty quickly

> for a lot of people... the title page is misleading - it IS about

> eliminating candida...

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> http://tiny.pl/sv6m

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jim...

I have read about Zeolite and once considered purchasing some but never did.

However, on your recommendation I'm going to go ahead and get some...sounds like

it might be just the thing to help me. First though I will check out for any

possible side effects.

For the last several nights I have taken the chorella at night right before I go

to bed and it seems I am not having the bad effects [just some slight stomach

upset] of before but I may have to take it awhile before I notice any really

negative effects?

Thanks for your help, Jim...it's greatly appreciated.

Sandy

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> > > > > From: ether_avatar <hollis302000@>

> > > > > Subject: [ ] MSM [not MMS] little known

> > > > side effects.

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> > <mailto: %40>

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> > > > > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:23 PM

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> > > > > MSM [not MMS] has pretty much been advertised as having no side

> > > > effects...yet I had side effects while taking it...even at taking

> > half

> > > > doses of the recommended dosage. My joints hurt...I had nausea,

> > > > headaches and worst of all anxiety attacks at night. It turns out

> > I am

> > > > not the only one after all.

> > > > >

> > > > > I Googled MSM side effects and got this from Earth Clinic, MSM

> > cures

> > > > and little known side effects.

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing I found out...if you are allergic to Sulfa drugs you

> > > > should not take MSM. Coincidentally I am highly allergic to Sulfa

> > > > drugs. I have never read this could be a problem with MSM. It also

> > > > appears more women than men have allergic reactions to Sulfa Drugs

> > and

> > > > should think twice before using MSM.

> > > > >

> > > > > I realize MSM is a miracle product for some but I have practically

> > > > been called me a liar for claiming I had side effects to claiming I

> > > > had bought an inferior product. Now it turns out I was right as are

> > > > many others who have side effects.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is imperative we do our research when taking any kinds of so

> > > > called " natural " miracle products...if you don't, you might do more

> > > > harm than good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sandy

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[Guest guest]

i know you're trying to help but following this advice for eliminating

mercury is dangerous. it's gotten many into trouble. safest way i've

found is via any cutler's method. see book amalgam illness. also this

list: frequent-dose-chelation

monique

Take some things that are known to bind mercury a little before taking

the MSM... cilantro, chlorella and clay water are three things I know of

that are powerful mercury binders...

Maybe they can bind the mercury as it is released... if in fact that is

what is causing your reaction to it...

I'm also wondering if 'allergy to Sulfa drugs' is actually some other

problem that can be resolved...

[Guest guest]

sandy you really need to read amalgam illness by dr. andrew cutler. it

sounds like you. everything you to react to cholrella, MSM - it gives

good reason for.

[Guest guest]

...

I read your response to the other poster and have looked up the Cutler protocol

[and have it bookmarked]. It sounds really good and I agree with you that this

must be my problem.

I have had amalgam fillings for as long as I can remember. The dentist I have

gone to in the past kept putting off getting ride of my old silver

fillings...needless to say I'm looking for another dentist who will do what I

ask.

I'm also going to make an appointment with a Naturopathic doctor and talk to him

about the Cutler protocol...maybe he can help me with it?

Thank you so much for this suggestion...I know it will help.

Regards...

Sandy

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> sandy you really need to read amalgam illness by dr. andrew cutler. it

> sounds like you. everything you to react to chlorella, MSM - it gives

> good reason for.

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[Guest guest]

hi sandy

make sure you find a dentist who is well versed in correct protocol for

removing amalgams. if you don;t use correct prot you can release more

mercury into your body. if you post ont he frequent chelation group they

can help you find a practit near you who can help.

monique