RE: Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks

[Guest guest]

Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS immediately caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she said her eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go there to help them? I'd really like to know if that person's eyes are better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse, due to MMS? or something else I do not know? Someone on here said that MMS causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I am trying to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are constantly burning now, I cant even drive sometimes, have to pull over regularly. It's like I am permanently peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at this point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is a good thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means it's working? Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning. How do we know our bodies aren't trying

to get rid of MMS because it's a poison versus it actually killing off poisons. I feel like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria, shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now with news I find out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier than usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night, dry horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but bite and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much for extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live with myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of misery soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only stays in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's done it's

damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

are you short of iodine??

http://www.jcrow.com/iodine.html good iodine info at the bottom

roger

From: Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@...>Subject: Re: [ ]Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 3:03 PM

Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS immediately caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she said her eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go there to help them? I'd really like to know if that person's eyes are better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse, due to MMS? or something else I do not know? Someone on here said that MMS causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I am trying to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are constantly burning now, I cant even drive sometimes, have to pull over regularly. It's like I am permanently peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at this point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is a good thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means it's working? Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning. How do we know our bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS because it's a poison versus it actually

killing off poisons. I feel like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria, shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now with news I find out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier than usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night, dry horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but bite and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much for extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live with myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of misery soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only stays in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's done it's damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so

confused.

[Guest guest]

My thyroid has always been a bit sluggish but not terrible. It said in the article that people whose thyroid wasn't functioning at 100% that it could happen. Plus I am prone to hypothyroidism because of the Sjogren's.

From: Vicki <genuinelysweet2002>Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risksmiracle_mineral_ supplementDate: Monday, January 5, 2009, 3:03 PM

Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS immediately caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she said her eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go there to help them? I'd really like to know if that person's eyes are better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse, due to MMS? or something else I do not know? Someone on here said that MMS causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I am trying to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are constantly burning now, I cant even drive sometimes, have to pull over regularly. It's like I am permanently peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at this point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is a good thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means it's working? Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning. How do we know our bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS because it's a poison versus it actually

killing off poisons. I feel like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria, shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now with news I find out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier than usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night, dry horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but bite and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much for extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live with myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of misery soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only stays in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's done it's damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so

confused.

[Guest guest]

--- In , RRM <rmor67@...>

wrote:

>

> From: Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@...>

> Subject: Re: [ ]Quitting MMS due to dryness

& possible thyroid risks

>

> Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 3:03 PM

Hi Vicki,

Don't mean to be presumptive, but have you ever visited curezone.com?

They have an MMS support forum as well as an MMS debate forum that

should be able to answer some of your questions. Thanks, Artielle

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicki,

Yes, MMS is nothing more than an oxidizer. It will attack

" anything " with a positive charge or is acidic. Most body tissues are

neutral/negative/basic and most bacteria/viruses are positively

charged. The MMS simply strips off electrons which kills, disables,

or makes visible to the immune system most of these bugs.

However, if you have some form of degenerative disease there may be

something else going on that the MMS is interacting with.

Also, MMS is active in the body for 12 hours, not 2, and it does

most of its work during the first 4 hrs. If you ever have an issue

with MMS simply take some Vitamin C, Vitamin E, or other

" anti-oxidant " like green tea and you will neutralize the MMS like it

was never there.

I usually take my MMS at night as that is when the body is doing its

healing and can use the support. Remember, any MMS that you take is a

good thing. Try to back down to 2-4 drops a night and then resume any

other medicines in the morning.

Good luck to you,

Brad

>

> >

> > From: Vicki <genuinelysweet2002@>

> > Subject: Re: [ ]Quitting MMS due to dryness

> & possible thyroid risks

> >

> > Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 3:03 PM

>

> Hi Vicki,

> Don't mean to be presumptive, but have you ever visited curezone.com?

> They have an MMS support forum as well as an MMS debate forum that

> should be able to answer some of your questions. Thanks, Artielle

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Brad but I stopped it because I am worried about possible damage to my thyroid. Do you know anything about how MMS can cause this? Apparently the little chlorine in some peoples water alone can do this and that MMS can cause goiters too as well as destroy the thyroid, is this true?

Also I worry about MMS worsening my dryness, if it was for sure temporary I'd do it, but how do I know.

As far as the 2 hours in your system, I got that from one of Mr. Humbles people.

From: brad_s_andersen <bradandersen@...>Subject: Re: [ ]Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 9:58 AM

Hi Vicki,Yes, MMS is nothing more than an oxidizer. It will attack"anything" with a positive charge or is acidic. Most body tissues areneutral/negative/ basic and most bacteria/viruses are positivelycharged. The MMS simply strips off electrons which kills, disables,or makes visible to the immune system most of these bugs.However, if you have some form of degenerative disease there may besomething else going on that the MMS is interacting with.Also, MMS is active in the body for 12 hours, not 2, and it doesmost of its work during the first 4 hrs. If you ever have an issuewith MMS simply take some Vitamin C, Vitamin E, or other"anti-oxidant" like green tea and you will neutralize the MMS like itwas never there.I usually take my MMS at night as that is when the body is doing itshealing and can use the support. Remember, any MMS that you take is agood thing. Try to back down to

2-4 drops a night and then resume anyother medicines in the morning.Good luck to you,Brad> > > > > From: Vicki <genuinelysweet2002 @>> > Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting MMS due to dryness > & possible thyroid risks> > miracle_mineral_ supplement> > Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 3:03 PM> > Hi Vicki,> Don't mean to be presumptive, but have you ever visited curezone.com? > They have an MMS support forum as well as an MMS debate forum that > should be able to answer some of your questions. Thanks, Artielle>

[Guest guest]

Hi Brad:

I agree that MMS is an oxidizer. Why do you not believe that, as an

oxidizer, it causes premature aging?

If an antioxidant keeps you young, and oxidant should age you. What am

I missing? This would not preclude one from using MMS... it would

only mean that you pay for for its benefits and there is a downside.

Regards, Jim

Vicki wrote:

Thank you Brad but I stopped it because I am worried about

possible damage to my thyroid. Do you know anything about how MMS can

cause this? Apparently the little chlorine in some peoples water alone

can do this and that MMS can cause goiters too as well as destroy the

thyroid, is this true?

Also I worry about MMS worsening my dryness, if it was for

sure temporary I'd do it, but how do I know.

As far as the 2 hours in your system, I got that from one

of Mr. Humbles people.

--- On Tue, 1/6/09, brad_s_andersen <bradandersengmail>

wrote:

From: brad_s_andersen <bradandersengmail>

Subject: Re: [ ]Quitting MMS due to

dryness & possible thyroid risks

Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 9:58 AM

Hi Vicki,

Yes, MMS is nothing more than an oxidizer. It will attack

"anything" with a positive charge or is acidic. Most body tissues are

neutral/negative/ basic and most bacteria/viruses are positively

charged. The MMS simply strips off electrons which kills, disables,

or makes visible to the immune system most of these bugs.

However, if you have some form of degenerative disease there may be

something else going on that the MMS is interacting with.

Also, MMS is active in the body for 12 hours, not 2, and it does

most of its work during the first 4 hrs. If you ever have an issue

with MMS simply take some Vitamin C, Vitamin E, or other

"anti-oxidant" like green tea and you will neutralize the MMS like it

was never there.

I usually take my MMS at night as that is when the body is doing its

healing and can use the support. Remember, any MMS that you take is a

good thing. Try to back down to 2-4 drops a night and then resume any

other medicines in the morning.

Good luck to you,

Brad

>

> >

> > From: Vicki <genuinelysweet2002 @>

> > Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting MMS due

to dryness

> & possible thyroid risks

> > miracle_mineral_

supplement

> > Date: Monday, January 5, 2009, 3:03 PM

>

> Hi Vicki,

> Don't mean to be presumptive, but have you ever visited

curezone.com?

> They have an MMS support forum as well as an MMS debate forum that

> should be able to answer some of your questions. Thanks, Artielle

>

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[Guest guest]

How much water do you drink?

Dan

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of VickiSent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [ ]Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks

Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS immediately caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she said her eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go there to help them? I'd really like to know if that person's eyes are better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse, due to MMS? or something else I do not know? Someone on here said that MMS causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I am trying to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are constantly burning now, I cant even drive sometimes, have to pull over regularly. It's like I am permanently peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at this point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is a good thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means it's working? Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning. How do we know our bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS because it's a poison versus it actually killing off poisons. I feel like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria, shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now with news I find out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier than usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night, dry horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but bite and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much for extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live with myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of misery soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only stays in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's done it's damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so confused.

[Guest guest]

Are you asking me?

I drink tons, due to the dry mouth and throat.

I didn't realize this about the premature aging.

Man, this MMS keeps sounding worse and worse yet no other options.

Very depressing.

From: Dan Nave <Dan.Nave@...>Subject: RE: [ ]Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:22 AM

How much water do you drink?

Dan

From: miracle_mineral_ supplement [mailto:miracle_ mineral_suppleme ntgroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of VickiSent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:04 PMmiracle_mineral_ supplementSubject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks

Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS immediately caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she said her eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go there to help them? I'd really like to know if that person's eyes are better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse, due to MMS? or something else I do not know? Someone on here said that MMS causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I am trying to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are constantly burning now, I cant even drive sometimes, have to pull over regularly. It's like I am permanently peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at this point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is a good thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means it's working? Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning. How do we know our bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS because it's a poison versus it actually

killing off poisons. I feel like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria, shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now with news I find out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier than usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night, dry horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but bite and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much for extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live with myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of misery soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only stays in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's done it's damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so

confused.

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

MMS will not solve nutritional deficiencies. If you are having

thyroid problems, it simply means you are deficient in iodine,

vitamin A, and selenium, or some combination thereof.

I recommend Lugol's iodine, cod liver in its own oil, and brazil

nuts to fix your thyroid condition. You must also avoid any and all

processed food, drink water free of fluoride and chlorine, and much

else. If you drink diet soda (which contains aspartame), you are

signing your own death warrant, as aspartame is a neurotoxin. The

same goes for anything with MSG (which is hidden under many names.

Don't expect MMS to provide you with nutrition; it is not a food

supplement.

>

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> From: Dan Nave <Dan.Nave@...>

> Subject: RE: [ ]Quitting MMS due to

dryness & possible thyroid risks

>

> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:22 AM

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> How much water do you drink?

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> Dan

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> From: miracle_mineral_ supplement

[mailto:miracle_ mineral_suppleme ntgroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

Vicki

> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:04 PM

> miracle_mineral_ supplement

> Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting MMS due to

dryness & possible thyroid risks

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> Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS immediately

caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she said her

eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go there to help them?

I'd really like to know if that person's eyes are better now as a

result. Because my eyes are worse, due to MMS? or something else I

do not know? Someone on here said that MMS causes dryness, the last

thing I need when that's what I am trying to beat. Is this temporary

while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are constantly burning now, I cant

even drive sometimes, have to pull over regularly. It's like I am

permanently peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at

this point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is a good

thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means it's working?

Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning. How do we know our

bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS because it's a poison versus

it actually killing off

> poisons. I feel like if something is getting rid of viruses and

bacteria, shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not

worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria,

less symptoms. And now with news I find out yesterday that MMS can

cause goiter and hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am

quitting. Also, mouth drier than usual, same with dry cotton mouth

waking me all night, dry horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I

can't help but bite and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't

do much for extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live

with myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more

horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of misery soon

as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only stays in the

system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's done it's

damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so confused.

>  

>

[Guest guest]

My opinion since reading about MMS when it first came out is that it is

probably the world's most powerful oxidizer. If that is the case, you

take the good with the bad. This is a medication, not a food

supplement. It is very inexpensive and appears to be very effective in

curing a wealth of problems, but there is no such thing as a free

lunch.

Vicki wrote:

Are you asking me?

I drink tons, due to the dry mouth and throat.

I didn't realize this about the premature aging.

Man, this MMS keeps sounding worse and worse yet no other

options.

Very depressing.

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Dan Nave <Dan.Navenilfisk-advance>

wrote:

From: Dan Nave <Dan.Navenilfisk-advance>

Subject: RE: [ ]Quitting MMS due to

dryness & possible thyroid risks

Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:22 AM

How much water do you drink?

Dan

From:

miracle_mineral_ supplement [mailto:miracle_

mineral_suppleme ntgroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Vicki

Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:04 PM

miracle_mineral_ supplement

Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting

MMS due to dryness & possible thyroid risks

Who was it on here

that not long ago said the MMS immediately caused her eyes to burn but

that it was okay because she said her eyes were a problem and that the

MMS knew to go there to help them? I'd really like to know if that

person's eyes are better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse,

due to MMS? or something else I do not know? Someone on here said that

MMS causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I am trying

to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS? My dry eyes are

constantly burning now, I cant even drive sometimes, have to pull over

regularly. It's like I am permanently peeling onion but much worse! I

am having a hard time at this point believing that anything negative

caused by MMS is a good thing. How do we know that diarrhea and

vomiting means it's working? Those are the same symptoms as food

poisoning. How do we know our bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS

because it's a poison versus it actually killing off poisons. I feel

like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria, shouldn't it

be making us feel better in the process not worse? That's how it

normally works it seems. Less viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now

with news I find out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and

hypothyroidism, this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier

than usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night, dry horsey

soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but bite and chew them, i

know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much for extreme cases. If I made

myself worse I can hardly live with myself knowing I made a horrible

situation even more horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal

level of misery soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only

stays in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then maybe it's

done it's damage, because I am still doing worse. I am so confused.

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[Guest guest]

Vicki...

Have you ever heard of a herxheimer reaction / healing crisis and

what that is?

I have never hear or read one thing about MMS causing hyothyroidism

or is damaging to the thyroid. I would appreciate you providing

something to back that up.

Maybe you should consider getting off of MMS and see how your

condition reacts? Everytime I read one of your posts you're saying

it is doing nothing for you and that it is making things worse...you

constantly question the benefits of it so frankly, I do not

understand why you are taking it in the first place or that you

continue to take it????

I wish you the best and hope you eventually find something to help

your problems.

Sandy

> >

> >

> > From: Dan Nave <Dan.Nave@...>

> > Subject: RE: [ ]Quitting MMS due to

> > dryness & possible thyroid risks

> >

> > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:22 AM

> >

> > How much water do you drink?

> >

> > Dan

> >

> > ---------------------------------------------------------

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> > From: miracle_mineral_ supplement

> > [mailto:miracle_ mineral_suppleme ntgroups (DOT) com] On

> > Behalf Of Vicki

> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:04 PM

> > miracle_mineral_ supplement

> > Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Quitting MMS

due to

> > dryness & possible thyroid risks

> >

> >

> > Who was it on here that not long ago said the MMS

immediately

> > caused her eyes to burn but that it was okay because she

said

> > her eyes were a problem and that the MMS knew to go

there to

> > help them? I'd really like to know if that person's eyes

are

> > better now as a result. Because my eyes are worse, due

to MMS?

> > or something else I do not know? Someone on here said

that MMS

> > causes dryness, the last thing I need when that's what I

am

> > trying to beat. Is this temporary while you are on MMS?

My dry

> > eyes are constantly burning now, I cant even drive

sometimes,

> > have to pull over regularly. It's like I am permanently

> > peeling onion but much worse! I am having a hard time at

this

> > point believing that anything negative caused by MMS is

a good

> > thing. How do we know that diarrhea and vomiting means

it's

> > working? Those are the same symptoms as food poisoning.

How do

> > we know our bodies aren't trying to get rid of MMS

because

> > it's a poison versus it actually killing off poisons. I

feel

> > like if something is getting rid of viruses and bacteria,

> > shouldn't it be making us feel better in the process not

> > worse? That's how it normally works it seems. Less

> > viruses/bacteria, less symptoms. And now with news I find

> > out yesterday that MMS can cause goiter and

hypothyroidism,

> > this is just too much. I am quitting. Also, mouth drier

than

> > usual, same with dry cotton mouth waking me all night,

dry

> > horsey soar throat, lips so dehydrated I can't help but

bite

> > and chew them, i know, gross, lip balm doesn't do much

for

> > extreme cases. If I made myself worse I can hardly live

with

> > myself knowing I made a horrible situation even more

> > horrendous. I just hope I go back to my normal level of

misery

> > soon as I have quit it. Of course if it's true it only

stays

> > in the system 2 hours at a time like Humble says, then

maybe

> > it's done it's damage, because I am still doing worse. I

am so

> > confused.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>