Re: Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes disease then....

[Guest guest]

Hi carolThis is the first time I heard this. I havenever heard anything but good stuff whenpeople get their pH up there. And I havenever heard getting your pH up as beingdangerous ...UNLESS they got it far tooalkaline for too long a period. Usually thatis not a concern because it is difficult to get the pH to go up to where it is supposedto be.Did you take too much baking soda? I knowall sorts of people who are taking the bakingsoda and are doing fine.Did you get another opinion? I have never heard where a higher pH would make thingslike fungus grow. I sure would be looking for another opinion. No one practitioner knows all the answers no matter how longtheir studies

were.On the other hand, I do know it is dangerouswhen your pH is low.Helen From: wildman350smom <carolb@...> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:13:00 AMSubject: [ ] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes

disease then....

just remember that not everyone does well with the baking

soda/alkalinity thing. I tried it and i got really sick from it.

as in not from dye-off as in confirmed from my kineseologist that

it made the bad things in my body GROW not DIE. Everybody is

different but for me it makes specifically fungus and bacteria grow.

it may work for people with cancer but i don't have cancer just lyme

and the co's.. and it was definately bad for me. listen to your body

and read dr loyds articles please

http://www.royalrif e.com/ph. html

http://www.royalrif e.com/hbal. html

in my opinion it's (ph) nothing to mess with unless you are being

monitored by a doctor that knows what they are doing

carol

>

> How does it help? If it's true that all disease are caused by acidic

bodies, then even if MMS removed the pathogens, then wouldn't they

return being that MMS is keeping the body acidic or more so even ? I

have two auto immune illnesses and vestibular disease among other

conditions, and my aunt has Cancer that has spread. As of now we are

both taking MMS.

>

> I am confused by that and it all came about when a nice member had

told me about the baking soda protocol, of which there are apparently

two variations, one easier to get the ingredients for. But anyway, I

digress. Apparently the baking soda protocol make the body more alkaline.

>

> So the question is, do you only do the MMS for a while or only the

baking soda for a while, or can you take both but space them out like

12 hours or something? This way MMS removes the bad, but since it adds

acidity you counteract it with the baking soda? If this is okay to do,

the next question is, how does one know how much to take of the baking

soda based on how much MMS they take...or how acidic their body is to

start? I could experiment, yes, but I also dont know how long before

there are results.

>

> I did buy PH test strips. It says on the box that in the morning

urine is more acidic after fasting and should be 6.5 to 7.0 and more

alkaline at night 7.5-8.0. Okay well mine thi evening was 6.5. So

apparently too acidic.

>

> But how accurate are these? I mean, maybe I was acidic tonight

because maybe I ate something acidic? I dont know. Plus, maybe it

makes a difference how long ago you ate/drank in the evening also.

Perhaps in the A.M. is more of a gold standard, like Diabetes tests.

So I guess I will check it then and see. Hopefully the result

is cumulative and not based on what I ate/drank simply the day before.

>

> Thank you!

>

[Guest guest]

Hello againThere is an exception that I do knowabout and it may not be the only exception.There is an big increase in pH whensomeone is dying of cancer. In thebody's last ditch effort, it producesammonia which is highly alkalinein an attempt to save the body. Itusually is a bit much too late.It is interesting that people with just2 days to live have become completelywell when using the Miracle 2 products.This is not necessarily going to happen for everyone. It depends on a number of variables.These products are very alkaline but they keep doing nothing but awesomestuff for the people who use them. Ihave never heard of a bad effect withthem and I have been involved and paying close

attention to them for7 years now. We keep getting reportsof successful results from people withall sorts of maladies.When if comes to natural things, I willtake my chances without a doctor. Wehad a kinesiologist and he sold us somestuff out of his back room that we couldill afford at the time. None of his stuff worked. It was I who found the remedyto a disease that no one, not even naturalpractioners knew how to treat. There is almost no need to be alarmed with naturalmeans if you use your own head and listento your body and even then we don't 'hear'it correctly mistaking a 'side effect' for a detox effect, sometimes called a healingcrisis or herx. If my body did not like baking soda, I would stop taking it and thenI'd start up again but a little slower. If I really was not comfortable taking it, I wouldjust stop altogether

but that has not happened.I take a 1/2 teaspoon on an empty stomachand I do that 3 times a day. So I am taking1½ teaspoons a day. I actually feel better onit. Of course, I don't eat anything for aboutan hour; I just take water.As we explore the internet, we have to be careful not to believe everything written. Thepharmaceutical people are so devious as toput mis or dis-information. Most will lookgood but all of a sudden something you havebelieved for years someone is refuting. Youinvestigate it further and noone else is sayingthat. It can all get pretty confusing if someonestarts lying to you after they made themselveslook so good.I took a brief look at the websites you providedand he is saying things that no one else is saying. That doesn't mean he is wrong; it justmeans I would hold him suspect until he

proveshimself. Louis Pasteur was telling doctors to wash their hands before delivering babies whenno one else was saying to do that so maybe theguy on the website is a genius ...but I doubt it.I hate to say it because it will bruise male egosbut sometimes there is a rivalry going on between men that we don't know is happeningand they have to be the different one becausetheir big ego dictates it. Probably some of themost reliable information around is that whichcame from the 70's and before that. If I foundthe old Prevention magazines for sale, for example,I would buy every one of them. But the Preventionmagazine of today is useless.HelenHelen From: helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:51:12 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes disease then....

Hi carolThis is the first time I heard this. I havenever heard anything but good stuff whenpeople get their pH up there. And I havenever heard getting your pH up as beingdangerous ...UNLESS they got it far tooalkaline for too long a period. Usually thatis not a concern because it is difficult to get the pH to go up to where it is supposedto be.Did you take too much baking soda? I knowall sorts of people who are taking the bakingsoda and are doing fine.Did you get another opinion? I have never heard where a higher pH would make thingslike fungus grow. I sure would be looking for another opinion. No one practitioner knows all the answers no matter how longtheir studies

were.On the other hand, I do know it is dangerouswhen your pH is low.Helen From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>miracle_mineral_ supplementSent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:13:00 AMSubject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes

disease then....

just remember that not everyone does well with the baking

soda/alkalinity thing. I tried it and i got really sick from it.

as in not from dye-off as in confirmed from my kineseologist that

it made the bad things in my body GROW not DIE. Everybody is

different but for me it makes specifically fungus and bacteria grow.

it may work for people with cancer but i don't have cancer just lyme

and the co's.. and it was definately bad for me. listen to your body

and read dr loyds articles please

http://www.royalrif e.com/ph. html

http://www.royalrif e.com/hbal. html

in my opinion it's (ph) nothing to mess with unless you are being

monitored by a doctor that knows what they are doing

carol

>

> How does it help? If it's true that all disease are caused by acidic

bodies, then even if MMS removed the pathogens, then wouldn't they

return being that MMS is keeping the body acidic or more so even ? I

have two auto immune illnesses and vestibular disease among other

conditions, and my aunt has Cancer that has spread. As of now we are

both taking MMS.

>

> I am confused by that and it all came about when a nice member had

told me about the baking soda protocol, of which there are apparently

two variations, one easier to get the ingredients for. But anyway, I

digress. Apparently the baking soda protocol make the body more alkaline.

>

> So the question is, do you only do the MMS for a while or only the

baking soda for a while, or can you take both but space them out like

12 hours or something? This way MMS removes the bad, but since it adds

acidity you counteract it with the baking soda? If this is okay to do,

the next question is, how does one know how much to take of the baking

soda based on how much MMS they take...or how acidic their body is to

start? I could experiment, yes, but I also dont know how long before

there are results.

>

> I did buy PH test strips. It says on the box that in the morning

urine is more acidic after fasting and should be 6.5 to 7.0 and more

alkaline at night 7.5-8.0. Okay well mine thi evening was 6.5. So

apparently too acidic.

>

> But how accurate are these? I mean, maybe I was acidic tonight

because maybe I ate something acidic? I dont know. Plus, maybe it

makes a difference how long ago you ate/drank in the evening also.

Perhaps in the A.M. is more of a gold standard, like Diabetes tests.

So I guess I will check it then and see. Hopefully the result

is cumulative and not based on what I ate/drank simply the day before.

>

> Thank you!

>

[Guest guest]

On 11/10/2008, helen/zhebee (zhebee@...) wrote:

> Louis Pasteur was telling doctors to wash their hands before

> delivering babies when no one else was saying to do that

Louis Pasteur was a plagiarist and a fraud, and is the father of the

horror that is 'modern allopathic medicine'... google on Antoine Bechamp

and 'pleomorphism' for details...

It was Dr. Ignac Semmelweis who championed the washing of hands before

delivering babies... I had never heard that Pasteur had stolen this idea

from him, but apparently he did...

> so maybe the guy on the website is a genius ...

It sounds like he is simply discussing 'Metabolic Typing'... which in my

opinion is the answer to the riddle of why some 'diets' work so well for

some, and not so well for others...

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol, that's pretty scary. Wow. Did you go back to whatever your normal was once you got off it? How long were you on it? Are you takign MMS now?

As much as I love to hear happy stories, I appreciate hearing when something doens't work for someone becasue it's important that we be as knowledable as possible, especially when there is no knowledgable doctor to guide us.

From: wildman350smom <carolb@...>Subject: [ ] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes disease then.... Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 3:13 AM

just remember that not everyone does well with the bakingsoda/alkalinity thing. I tried it and i got really sick from it.as in not from dye-off as in confirmed from my kineseologist thatit made the bad things in my body GROW not DIE. Everybody isdifferent but for me it makes specifically fungus and bacteria grow.it may work for people with cancer but i don't have cancer just lymeand the co's.. and it was definately bad for me. listen to your bodyand read dr loyds articles pleasehttp://www.royalrif e.com/ph. htmlhttp://www.royalrif e.com/hbal. htmlin my opinion it's (ph) nothing to mess with unless you are beingmonitored by a doctor that knows what they are doingcarol>> How does it help? If it's true that all disease are caused by acidicbodies, then even if MMS removed the pathogens, then wouldn't theyreturn being that MMS is keeping the body acidic or more so even ? Ihave two auto immune illnesses and vestibular disease among otherconditions, and my aunt has Cancer that has spread. As of now we areboth taking MMS.> > I am confused by that and it all came about when a nice member hadtold me about the baking soda protocol, of which there are apparentlytwo variations, one easier to get the ingredients for. But anyway, Idigress. Apparently the baking soda protocol make the body more alkaline. > > So the question is, do you only do the MMS for a while or only thebaking soda for a while, or can you take both but space them out

like12 hours or something? This way MMS removes the bad, but since it addsacidity you counteract it with the baking soda? If this is okay to do,the next question is, how does one know how much to take of the bakingsoda based on how much MMS they take...or how acidic their body is tostart? I could experiment, yes, but I also dont know how long beforethere are results.> > I did buy PH test strips. It says on the box that in the morningurine is more acidic after fasting and should be 6.5 to 7.0 and morealkaline at night 7.5-8.0. Okay well mine thi evening was 6.5. Soapparently too acidic. > > But how accurate are these? I mean, maybe I was acidic tonightbecause maybe I ate something acidic? I dont know. Plus, maybe itmakes a difference how long ago you ate/drank in the evening also.Perhaps in the A.M. is more of a gold standard, like Diabetes tests.So I guess I will check it

then and see. Hopefully the resultis cumulative and not based on what I ate/drank simply the day before.> > Thank you!>

[Guest guest]

On 11/10/2008, helen/zhebee (zhebee@...) wrote:

> Louis Pasteur was telling doctors to wash their hands before

> delivering babies when no one else was saying to do that

Louis Pasteur was a plagiarist and a fraud, and is the father of the

horror that is 'modern allopathic medicine'... google on Antoine Bechamp

and 'pleomorphism' for details...

It was Dr. Ignac Semmelweis who championed the washing of hands before

delivering babies... I had never heard that Pasteur had stolen this idea

from him, but apparently he did...

> so maybe the guy on the website is a genius ...

It sounds like he is simply discussing 'Metabolic Typing'... which in my

opinion is the answer to the riddle of why some 'diets' work so well for

some, and not so well for others...

[Guest guest]

Thanks Simon, I didn't check on it, before I wrote it because it didn't seemimportant to be entirely accurate aboutthe washing hands thing. I usually take measures to be accurate especially when it comes to information about individual health.Helen From: Simon

<tanstaafl@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 6:35:20 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes disease then....

On 11/10/2008, helen/zhebee (zhebee (DOT) com) wrote:

> Louis Pasteur was telling doctors to wash their hands before

> delivering babies when no one else was saying to do that

Louis Pasteur was a plagiarist and a fraud, and is the father of the

horror that is 'modern allopathic medicine'... google on Antoine Bechamp

and 'pleomorphism' for details...

It was Dr. Ignac Semmelweis who championed the washing of hands before

delivering babies... I had never heard that Pasteur had stolen this idea

from him, but apparently he did...

> so maybe the guy on the website is a genius ...

It sounds like he is simply discussing 'Metabolic Typing'... which in my

opinion is the answer to the riddle of why some 'diets' work so well for

some, and not so well for others...