Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 just remember that not everyone does well with the baking soda/alkalinity thing. I tried it and i got really sick from it. as in not from dye-off as in confirmed from my kineseologist that it made the bad things in my body GROW not DIE. Everybody is different but for me it makes specifically fungus and bacteria grow. it may work for people with cancer but i don't have cancer just lyme and the co's.. and it was definately bad for me. listen to your body and read dr loyds articles please http://www.royalrife.com/ph.html http://www.royalrife.com/hbal.html in my opinion it's (ph) nothing to mess with unless you are being monitored by a doctor that knows what they are doing carol > > How does it help? If it's true that all disease are caused by acidic bodies, then even if MMS removed the pathogens, then wouldn't they return being that MMS is keeping the body acidic or more so even ? I have two auto immune illnesses and vestibular disease among other conditions, and my aunt has Cancer that has spread. As of now we are both taking MMS. > > I am confused by that and it all came about when a nice member had told me about the baking soda protocol, of which there are apparently two variations, one easier to get the ingredients for. But anyway, I digress. Apparently the baking soda protocol make the body more alkaline. > > So the question is, do you only do the MMS for a while or only the baking soda for a while, or can you take both but space them out like 12 hours or something? This way MMS removes the bad, but since it adds acidity you counteract it with the baking soda? If this is okay to do, the next question is, how does one know how much to take of the baking soda based on how much MMS they take...or how acidic their body is to start? I could experiment, yes, but I also dont know how long before there are results. > > I did buy PH test strips. It says on the box that in the morning urine is more acidic after fasting and should be 6.5 to 7.0 and more alkaline at night 7.5-8.0. Okay well mine thi evening was 6.5. So apparently too acidic. > > But how accurate are these? I mean, maybe I was acidic tonight because maybe I ate something acidic? I dont know. Plus, maybe it makes a difference how long ago you ate/drank in the evening also. Perhaps in the A.M. is more of a gold standard, like Diabetes tests. So I guess I will check it then and see. Hopefully the result is cumulative and not based on what I ate/drank simply the day before. > > Thank you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Hello againThere is an exception that I do knowabout and it may not be the only exception.There is an big increase in pH whensomeone is dying of cancer. In thebody's last ditch effort, it producesammonia which is highly alkalinein an attempt to save the body. Itusually is a bit much too late.It is interesting that people with just2 days to live have become completelywell when using the Miracle 2 products.This is not necessarily going to happen for everyone. It depends on a number of variables.These products are very alkaline but they keep doing nothing but awesomestuff for the people who use them. Ihave never heard of a bad effect withthem and I have been involved and paying close attention to them for7 years now. We keep getting reportsof successful results from people withall sorts of maladies.When if comes to natural things, I willtake my chances without a doctor. Wehad a kinesiologist and he sold us somestuff out of his back room that we couldill afford at the time. None of his stuff worked. It was I who found the remedyto a disease that no one, not even naturalpractioners knew how to treat. There is almost no need to be alarmed with naturalmeans if you use your own head and listento your body and even then we don't 'hear'it correctly mistaking a 'side effect' for a detox effect, sometimes called a healingcrisis or herx. If my body did not like baking soda, I would stop taking it and thenI'd start up again but a little slower. If I really was not comfortable taking it, I wouldjust stop altogether but that has not happened.I take a 1/2 teaspoon on an empty stomachand I do that 3 times a day. So I am taking1½ teaspoons a day. I actually feel better onit. Of course, I don't eat anything for aboutan hour; I just take water.As we explore the internet, we have to be careful not to believe everything written. Thepharmaceutical people are so devious as toput mis or dis-information. Most will lookgood but all of a sudden something you havebelieved for years someone is refuting. Youinvestigate it further and noone else is sayingthat. It can all get pretty confusing if someonestarts lying to you after they made themselveslook so good.I took a brief look at the websites you providedand he is saying things that no one else is saying. That doesn't mean he is wrong; it justmeans I would hold him suspect until he proveshimself. Louis Pasteur was telling doctors to wash their hands before delivering babies whenno one else was saying to do that so maybe theguy on the website is a genius ...but I doubt it.I hate to say it because it will bruise male egosbut sometimes there is a rivalry going on between men that we don't know is happeningand they have to be the different one becausetheir big ego dictates it. Probably some of themost reliable information around is that whichcame from the 70's and before that. If I foundthe old Prevention magazines for sale, for example,I would buy every one of them. But the Preventionmagazine of today is useless.HelenHelen From: helen/zhebee <zhebee@...> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:51:12 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes disease then.... Hi carolThis is the first time I heard this. I havenever heard anything but good stuff whenpeople get their pH up there. And I havenever heard getting your pH up as beingdangerous ...UNLESS they got it far tooalkaline for too long a period. Usually thatis not a concern because it is difficult to get the pH to go up to where it is supposedto be.Did you take too much baking soda? I knowall sorts of people who are taking the bakingsoda and are doing fine.Did you get another opinion? I have never heard where a higher pH would make thingslike fungus grow. I sure would be looking for another opinion. No one practitioner knows all the answers no matter how longtheir studies were.On the other hand, I do know it is dangerouswhen your pH is low.Helen From: wildman350smom <carolbenter (DOT) net>miracle_mineral_ supplementSent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:13:00 AMSubject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: - If MMS is acidic, & acid causes disease then.... just remember that not everyone does well with the baking soda/alkalinity thing. I tried it and i got really sick from it. as in not from dye-off as in confirmed from my kineseologist that it made the bad things in my body GROW not DIE. Everybody is different but for me it makes specifically fungus and bacteria grow. it may work for people with cancer but i don't have cancer just lyme and the co's.. and it was definately bad for me. listen to your body and read dr loyds articles please http://www.royalrif e.com/ph. html http://www.royalrif e.com/hbal. html in my opinion it's (ph) nothing to mess with unless you are being monitored by a doctor that knows what they are doing carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 I tried the baking soda thing about 2 months ago... Here's the story... I had been looking for a more natural alternative for sanitizer for the hottub and read about the benefits of hydrogen peroxide. First day felt good. Second day felt really good. Third day i swelled up so bad i felt totally acidic and thought i was going to die... what i learned later the hydrogen peroxide broke all the biofilm that was encasing everything and now my doctor could see everything that was previously hiding. Anyway.. i read about baking soda... thinking it would help and it actually hurt. made fungus and one of the mycoplasma's grow. i ended up in the hospital with hyperantromena (sp?) where you drink and it goes right through you can't hold your water... my electrolytes were off big time. they wanted me to drink no water for like a week... had a rough time of it for awhile but better now (thanks to lots of emergen-c's). i haven't started the mms yet but am going to shortly. wanted to make sure i was completely over the hydrogen peroxide thing since they seem kind of similar. i've been detoxing for a long time now it's incredible how much stuff can share your body with you especially if you have something that compromises your detoxification pathways (like my lyme). I have the mms and am looking forward to adding it soon. carol > > > just remember that not everyone does well with the baking > soda/alkalinity thing. I tried it and i got really sick from it. > as in not from dye-off as in confirmed from my kineseologist that > it made the bad things in my body GROW not DIE. Everybody is > different but for me it makes specifically fungus and bacteria grow. > it may work for people with cancer but i don't have cancer just lyme > and the co's.. and it was definately bad for me. listen to your body > and read dr loyds articles please > http://www.royalrif e.com/ph. html > http://www.royalrif e.com/hbal. html > in my opinion it's (ph) nothing to mess with unless you are being > monitored by a doctor that knows what they are doing > carol > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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