Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 On 2/16/2009, cashew21 (cashew21@...) wrote: > Just a quick question. If one takes activated MMS ( chlorine dioxide ), > what happens when this reacts with stomach HCl? Does it form H2O + Cl2? > If so, then why not take the unactivated drops directly? Most people have low Hcl levels to begin with, and almost all don't have enough to fully activate it. This is why some people did well on 'Aeorbic oxygen' products - they had strong(er) Hcl levels and some of the sodium chlorite was converted to chlorine dioxide... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Don't... repeat, do not... do that under any circumstances. Read Jim Himble's books. This is not an area where you should be experimenting. cashew21 wrote: Hi, Just a quick question. If one takes activated MMS ( chlorine dioxide ), what happens when this reacts with stomach HCl? Does it form H2O + Cl2? If so, then why not take the unactivated drops directly? Thanks Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 On 2/16/2009 8:41 PM, jim wrote: >> Just a quick question. If one takes activated MMS ( chlorine >> dioxide ), what happens when this reacts with stomach HCl? Does it >> form H2O + Cl2? If so, then why not take the unactivated drops >> directly? > Don't... repeat, do not... do that under any circumstances. Eh? It certainly won't hurt anything... it just won't be nearly as effective. > Read Jim Himble's books. This is not an area where you should be > experimenting. Generally I agree, but what he is talking about isn't exactly what I'd call riding the wild pig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for many people who would otherwise be happy to take it. There's some thorough-looking research on this at http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to suggest that unacidified MMS is a valid option in many cases. It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would have the same effect. Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox. I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I dont know for sure what would be wrong with this. Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS is activated, but htes the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 To get around the taste I make lemonaide out of it. I use stevia to sweeten it. but I only use 6 drops at a time with the juice of 1/4 lemon then dont breathe when I swallow. Wilkins http://www.chews4health.com/Wilkins--- On Tue, 2/17/09, Case <chris@...> wrote: From: Case <chris@...>Subject: [ ] MMS CHemistry Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 9:33 AM I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for many people who would otherwise be happy to take it.There's some thorough-looking research on this at http://www.bioredox .mysite.com/ CLOXhtml/ CLOXprot. htm , which seems to suggest that unacidified MMS is a valid option in many cases.It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would have the same effect.Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox.I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I dont know for sure what would be wrong with this.Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS is activated, but htes the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dear Thanks very much for this post. I was looking through the two books for an answer to the question but found none. The site that you posted answers just about all my concerns. Thanks again. Cashew > > I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS > without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for > many people who would otherwise be happy to take it. > > There's some thorough-looking research on this at > http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to > suggest that unacidified MMS is a valid option in many cases. > > It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee > sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels > in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would > have the same effect. > > Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to > the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that > route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune > system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some > pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox. > > I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then > fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I dont know > for sure what would be wrong with this. > > Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS > is activated, but htes the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, > dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying > on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what > exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, > isnt it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hi After my last post and reading the citation in yours, it occurred to me that one could ( on an empty stomach ) take 9-10 drops or so in a half glass of water and then a minimum of 1cc of citric acid per five drops in another half glass of water ( which is pleasant enough). These two should mix in the gut and get around anyone not having an high enough acidic environment in the stomach. Tomorrow, I will do this and see what happens. Thanks again for your input. Cashew > > I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS > without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for > many people who would otherwise be happy to take it. > > There's some thorough-looking research on this at > http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to > suggest that unacidified MMS is a valid option in many cases. > > It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee > sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels > in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would > have the same effect. > > Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to > the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that > route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune > system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some > pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox. > > I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then > fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I dont know > for sure what would be wrong with this. > > Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS > is activated, but htes the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, > dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying > on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what > exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, > isnt it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hello Chris... I use the juice of one whole lemon to activate my MMS [however may drops I decide to use] then add about 2 to four ounces of water and the taste is not bad at all. I gave some to my son this evening because he has a bad cough...he's a grown man so I gave him 15 drops MMS to juice of one lemon waited three minutes then diluted with about 2 ounces of water...after he drank it he told he liked the taste...wonder of wonders...he is usually very finicky about the way things taste and I did not even prompt him to tell me what he thought of the taste. I have found MMS to be very palatable taken this way...after a few minutes there is not even an after taste...IMO. San > > I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS > without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for > many people who would otherwise be happy to take it. > > There's some thorough-looking research on this at > http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to > suggest that acidified MMS is a valid option in many cases. > > It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee > sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels > in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would > have the same effect. > > Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to > the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that > route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune > system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some > pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox. > > I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then > fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I don't know > for sure what would be wrong with this. > > Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS > is activated, but hates the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, > dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying > on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what > exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, > isnt it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 ....add a little stevia or or other sweetener to your slightly diluted mix, and it tastes great....just like a strong, sweet lemonade, or more dlute, if you prefer.~IngaOn Feb 17, 2009, at 9:25 PM, ether_avatar wrote:Hello Chris...I use the juice of one whole lemon to activate my MMS [however may drops I decide to use] then add about 2 to four ounces of water and the taste is not bad at all. I gave some to my son this evening because he has a bad cough...he's a grown man so I gave him 15 drops MMS to juice of one lemon waited three minutes then diluted with about 2 ounces of water...after he drank it he told he liked the taste...wonder of wonders...he is usually very finicky about the way things taste and I did not even prompt him to tell me what he thought of the taste.I have found MMS to be very palatable taken this way...after a few minutes there is not even an after taste...IMO.San>> I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS > without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for > many people who would otherwise be happy to take it.> > There's some thorough-looking research on this at > http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to > suggest that acidified MMS is a valid option in many cases.> > It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee > sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels > in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would > have the same effect.> > Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to > the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that > route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune > system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some > pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox.> > I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then > fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I don't know > for sure what would be wrong with this.> > Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS > is activated, but hates the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, > dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying > on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what > exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, > isnt it?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 How do I get off this list? Had 75 emails in INBOX today about MMS, too many emails. Hello Chris...I use the juice of one whole lemon to activate my MMS [however may drops I decide to use] then add about 2 to four ounces of water and the taste is not bad at all. I gave some to my son this evening because he has a bad cough...he's a grown man so I gave him 15 drops MMS to juice of one lemon waited three minutes then diluted with about 2 ounces of water...after he drank it he told he liked the taste...wonder of wonders...he is usually very finicky about the way things taste and I did not even prompt him to tell me what he thought of the taste.I have found MMS to be very palatable taken this way...after a few minutes there is not even an after taste...IMO.San>> I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS > without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for > many people who would otherwise be happy to take it.> > There's some thorough-looking research on this at > http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to > suggest that acidified MMS is a valid option in many cases.> > It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee > sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels > in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would > have the same effect.> > Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to > the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that > route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune > system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some > pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox.> > I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then > fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I don't know > for sure what would be wrong with this.> > Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS > is activated, but hates the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, > dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying > on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what > exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, > isnt it?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 instructions at the bottom of every email from the group. Wilkins http://www.chews4health.com/Wilkins--- On Tue, 3/10/09, Debra <dmiller4887@...> wrote: From: Debra <dmiller4887@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS CHemistry Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 7:20 PM How do I get off this list? Had 75 emails in INBOX today about MMS, too many emails. Hello Chris...I use the juice of one whole lemon to activate my MMS [however may drops I decide to use] then add about 2 to four ounces of water and the taste is not bad at all. I gave some to my son this evening because he has a bad cough...he's a grown man so I gave him 15 drops MMS to juice of one lemon waited three minutes then diluted with about 2 ounces of water...after he drank it he told he liked the taste...wonder of wonders...he is usually very finicky about the way things taste and I did not even prompt him to tell me what he thought of the taste.I have found MMS to be very palatable taken this way...after a few minutes there is not even an after taste...IMO.San>> I've been thinking for a long time about this question of taking MMS > without the horrible taste, which is what the issue boils down to for > many people who would otherwise be happy to take it.> > There's some thorough-looking research on this at > http://www.bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm , which seems to > suggest that acidified MMS is a valid option in many cases.> > It looks as if the reason for the acidified protocol is to guarantee > sufficient acidity for any patient, given the variability of HCl levels > in the stomach. But it stands to reason that acid in the body would > have the same effect.> > Certainly if there is benefit to be obtained from simply adding MMS to > the family's water-bottles, etc., it would be well worth going that > route, at least when the intention is mainly to boost the immune > system, and using the acidified version when there is known to be some > pathogen one wants to deal with, or when one wants a full-on detox.> > I'd be inclined to do the full protocol once, get past the herxing, then > fall back to half a dozen unactivated drops a day in water. I don't know > for sure what would be wrong with this.> > Another thing that has occurred to me: if one wants to be sure the MMS > is activated, but hates the taste, why not mix the MMS and the acid, > dilute it, and drink it immediately? That way one would not be relying > on stomach HCl. I have seen reference to avoiding free Clo2, but what > exactly would be wrong with that? Clo2 is a gas any way you look at it, > isnt it?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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