Guest guest Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Hi there, I started the MMS protocol of 6 drops etc for brushing the teeth and did that for five days. I stopped because some areas of my gums started to swell up and it appeared to be making things worse. Anyone else had this experience? Or know if this is normal and I should continue? Advise please. Regards, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I found that it irritated my gums if I used it every day. My ND said that you do NOT want to kill ALL the bacteria in your mouth because there are good bacteria that are needed. He recommended that I put a capsule of probiotics in a small amount of warm water and swish my mouth with that before going to bed to replace the good bacteria. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Hi ,I don't know that MMS did kill all the bacteria. All I know is that it irritated my gums when I used it every day. Swishing my mouth with probiotics was soothing to the gums, so that helped. At one point I was having bleeding gums and had an infection under one of my teeth. The MMS did not stop the bleeding gums, but Oil of Oregano diluted 3 drops to 100 drops of oilive oil and swabbed onto the gum with DMSO stopped all the bleeding and greatly improved the infection to a point where I can now chew on that side of my mouth. Oil of Oregano probably does kill all bacteria, good and bad. So, now that things are under control, I only do it once a week and I swish with probiotics afterwards.MaraOn Feb 22, 2009, at 4:13 AM, wrote:I thought MMS was not supposed to kill the good bacteria. That is whathis DVD says anyway??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 --- HI Everyone, Okay I would like to know if anyone out there has used the MMS to cure the bleeding gums? Has anyone had success with healing the teeth and gums with MMS? Thanks, Z > Hi , > > I don't know that MMS did kill all the bacteria. All I know is that > it irritated my gums when I used it every day. Swishing my mouth > with probiotics was soothing to the gums, so that helped. At one > point I was having bleeding gums and had an infection under one of my > teeth. The MMS did not stop the bleeding gums, but Oil of Oregano > diluted 3 drops to 100 drops of oilive oil and swabbed onto the gum > with DMSO stopped all the bleeding and greatly improved the infection > to a point where I can now chew on that side of my mouth. Oil of > Oregano probably does kill all bacteria, good and bad. So, now that > things are under control, I only do it once a week and I swish with > probiotics afterwards. > > Mara > > On Feb 22, 2009, at 4:13 AM, > wrote: > > > I thought MMS was not supposed to kill the good bacteria. That is what > > his DVD says anyway??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Yes. I had a herpes-like sore on my gums for 20 years, dentists would say " what's that " and then ignore it. Sometimes it flared up, lots of extra vitamin C would sometimes make it almost go away for a few days, sometimes it got a small white head, mostly it was a flaming red gum line at one tooth. MMS cured it: the visual inflamation was gone in a week, I could still feel the inflamation (bit of heat and soreness) under the gum for about a month. It seems to be wholly gone now, but I'm thinking I ought to brush with a MMS/DMSO mix for a week just to make sure it's all totally gone from inside the gum. Also my gums tend to a bit of peridontal disease; that went away in three days, went so much away I didn't know gums could be so pale pink! I skipped the MMS for a week (loaned my set of bottles to a friend), and got lazy about flossing at the same time. After the week when I flossed I was startled at blood from the deep pocket at one tooth. The next day I started brushing with MMS again, no blood. That suggests to me (a total amateur, capable of guessing wrong) that deep pockets may hold bacteria that brushing can't reach well, take awat MMS the infection bounces back. One you-tube video suggests dipping the floss in MMS to get the MMS under the gums. I'm thinking brushing with DMSO/MMS would reach those hidden pockets. Liz --- In , " jipsichick " <zahra@...> wrote: > > --- HI Everyone, > Okay I would like to know if anyone out there has used the MMS to cure > the bleeding gums? Has anyone had success with healing the teeth and > gums with MMS? > Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Try a strong dilution of mms and water in a water pick. You may have to build up to a good dose but nothing better getting under everything. > > Yes. > > I had a herpes-like sore on my gums for 20 years, dentists would say " what's that " and then ignore it. Sometimes it flared up, lots of extra vitamin C would sometimes make it almost go away for a few days, sometimes it got a small white head, mostly it was a flaming red gum line at one tooth. > > MMS cured it: the visual inflamation was gone in a week, I could still feel the inflamation (bit of heat and soreness) under the gum for about a month. It seems to be wholly gone now, but I'm thinking I ought to brush with a MMS/DMSO mix for a week just to make sure it's all totally gone from inside the gum. > > Also my gums tend to a bit of peridontal disease; that went away in three days, went so much away I didn't know gums could be so pale pink! > > I skipped the MMS for a week (loaned my set of bottles to a friend), and got lazy about flossing at the same time. After the week when I flossed I was startled at blood from the deep pocket at one tooth. The next day I started brushing with MMS again, no blood. That suggests to me (a total amateur, capable of guessing wrong) that deep pockets may hold bacteria that brushing can't reach well, take awat MMS the infection bounces back. One you-tube video suggests dipping the floss in MMS to get the MMS under the gums. I'm thinking brushing with DMSO/MMS would reach those hidden pockets. > > Liz > > > --- In , " jipsichick " <zahra@> wrote: > > > > --- HI Everyone, > > Okay I would like to know if anyone out there has used the MMS to cure > > the bleeding gums? Has anyone had success with healing the teeth and > > gums with MMS? > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Great idea... the water pic will get cleaned in the process too. dlanorlav wrote: Try a strong dilution of mms and water in a water pick. You may have to build up to a good dose but nothing better getting under everything. > > > > --- HI Everyone, > > Okay I would like to know if anyone out there has used the MMS to cure > > the bleeding gums? Has anyone had success with healing the teeth and > > gums with MMS? > > Thanks, > Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 Liz, I've had similar problems with my gums. MMS helped a bit but did not get at the deeper pockets. I started using Oil of Oregano (10 drops O-o-O in 100 drops olive oil). I used a q tip to apply it to the gum area. Sometimes I would apply DMSO on top of that to take it in deeper. It had a remarkable effect (all bleeding stopped, the infection reduced dramatically etc.), although there is still a bit of infection underneath the tooth. I don't recommend brushing with the DMSO, however. I don't think you need to brush. I would apply it after cleaning my teeth, perhaps on top of a thin coat of MMS. Also my ND reminded me that there is supposed to be GOOD bacteria in your mouth which all of these things would tend to eliminate. This sets the stage for further infections. He recommended swishing the mouth with a good probiotic diluted in a bit of water after everything. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 The oral cavity has 4 enzymes for killing bacteria. These enzymes are in the saliva. Two of these enzymes are also in the tears and help to protect the eye. Thus you can kill anything in the mouth and the enzymes will be replaced as soon as the saliva starts flowing again.From: Mara Miles <roundaboutfarm@...>Subject: [ ] Re: MMS and Teeth Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 3:58 AM Liz, I've had similar problems with my gums. MMS helped a bit but did not get at the deeper pockets. I started using Oil of Oregano (10 drops O-o-O in 100 drops olive oil). I used a q tip to apply it to the gum area. Sometimes I would apply DMSO on top of that to take it in deeper. It had a remarkable effect (all bleeding stopped, the infection reduced dramatically etc.), although there is still a bit of infection underneath the tooth. I don't recommend brushing with the DMSO, however. I don't think you need to brush. I would apply it after cleaning my teeth, perhaps on top of a thin coat of MMS. Also my ND reminded me that there is supposed to be GOOD bacteria in your mouth which all of these things would tend to eliminate. This sets the stage for further infections. He recommended swishing the mouth with a good probiotic diluted in a bit of water after everything. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 , What I don't understand is this: if the enzymes kill the bacteria, how come when people have peridontal disease there are usually bacteria which can be seen on a slide taken from the areas around the gum. And my understanding is that these " bad bacteria " are the cause of gum disease. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 On 3/11/2009, Mara Miles (roundaboutfarm@...) wrote: > What I don't understand is this: if the enzymes kill the bacteria, > how come when people have peridontal disease there are usually > bacteria which can be seen on a slide taken from the areas around the > gum. And my understanding is that these " bad bacteria " are the cause > of gum disease. Simple... impaired enzyme production? Just like when someone gets sick, its generally due to an impaired immune system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 I think I have a water-pic in a drawer somewhere. I've been putting 10 drops (plus the citric acid) in a small wineglass of water, divide into two glasses, one for teeth brushing (that one gets cloudy and gunky just from what clings to the toothbrush) the other half-small-glass I use some of for mouthwash after brushing, then I fill the small glass with water (that mixture is now 1 or 2 drops of mms in 4 oz of water) and drop my retainer in it (mornings). Does a wonderful job cleaning the retainer, it feels cleaner than ever it did with commercial fizzy denture cleaners, and over the course of two weeks MMS cleaned off all the tea stains that had somehow gotten on the (clear plastic) retainer. Now if I can just get the tartar on my teeth to melt away. I guess that takes a year? The MMS stained it yellow. What the heck, better yellow teeth and healthy gums than white teeth and unhealthy gums. Then I put the used glasses in the dishwasher, vaguely wondering why I'm doing that, they are probably cleaner than what comes out of the washer! Habits die slowly. Liz > > > Try a strong dilution of mms and water in a water pick. You may have > > to build up to a good dose but nothing better getting under everything. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 aren;t the oral enzymes there to start digestion? gum disease is for sure a bacterial problem. > Re: [ ] Re: MMS and Teeth > > On 3/11/2009, Mara Miles (roundaboutfarm@...) wrote: > > What I don't understand is this: if the enzymes kill the > bacteria, > > how come when people have peridontal disease there are usually > > bacteria which can be seen on a slide taken from the areas > around the > > gum. And my understanding is that these " bad bacteria " are > the cause > > of gum disease. > > Simple... impaired enzyme production? Just like when someone > gets sick, > its generally due to an impaired immune system. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 My dogs are on raw meaty bones and have been for about 4 years now. Almost all Toy breeds have dental problems. Bigger breeds don't have the same problem. And as for Gidget and Recall (one that was old and one who is still young, it didn't matter what I fed them. Gidget didn't and Recall doesn't get tartar. It is a function of the genome. This has been discussed with the vet who wrote the Raw Meaty Bones book. The only solution to the problem when it is in the genes is a lot of cleaning (brushing and scaling) and monitoring on a regular basis along with proper diet (raw). I have spent about 3.5 years thus far researching gum and dental problems in dogs. Have applied some of that knowledge to myself with great results. This goes beyond MMS which can't make up for bad genes. One of the problems with pure breeds is that the genes propagate problems. All I can do is try to selectively breed those problems out of my lines. A long process. MMS is however something that can be used when bacteria does get into the blood stream > > > > What I don't understand is this: if the enzymes kill the bacteria, > > > > how come when people have peridontal disease there are usually > > > > bacteria which can be seen on a slide taken from the areas around the > > > > gum. And my understanding is that these " bad bacteria " are the cause > > > > of gum disease. > > > > > > Simple... impaired enzyme production? Just like when someone gets sick, > > > its generally due to an impaired immune system. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 I must have gotten the bad genes...... mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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