Re: MSM

March 3, 2009

MSM is terrific. I can vouch for what you say. I wouldn't go a day without it.

And am hoping to stave off JRT.

But what I'm wondering do you sprinkle is on your dogs food or put it in his/her water?

And how much to you give?

S-Max

-- [ ] MSM

If MMS stands for miracle mineral supplement, MSM should stand for miracle sulfur material. I took a gram of MSM per day for a number of years and it may have done some good, but it will virally heal you in quantity. It is the only joint supplement that I know of that seems to follow the rule that a little does some good, but a lot does a lot of good. At least in my case, I have never had any adverse affects from taking "huge" quantities, never found a limit, and it has healed some things that were declared beyond hope... like my ACL in my knee that came out of joint with the only slight stress and sciatica. You simply can't take much of the other joint supplements without gastric distress.<SNIP>By the way, it is great for dogs and other animals, too. My 14 yr old golden retriever would be dead by now without it. It also seems to help his coat look better.

March 3, 2009

My dog is on 3/4 raw hamburger diet and quarter Evo (grain free

variety). I make a little pouch for him out of hamburger and fill it

up with MSM. He never seems to notice, even if some of it gets on the

outside. He gets 1/6 lb in three equal servings or 1/2 lb per day, so

the pouch is one serving in the morning. He weighs 80 lb. If his hind

legs get droopy when he is overstressed (like today when he got stuck

in the snow), he gets a second at noon.

What I did not mention is that he also has gotten colloidal minerals in

his water with a tad of Flanagan's MegaHydrate all of his

life. I started him on MSM when he was 8 yrs old and could not climb

the stairs. 80 lb of dog is just too much to carry up the stairs. Now

he has occasional qualms about it after too many trips, but always

manages them. It was my research for his condition on the web that got

me to stumble on the idea of high quantities of MSM. It kept me from

joint replacement and him alive... so far.

sms wrote:

MSM

is terrific. I can vouch for what you say. I wouldn't go a day without

it.

And am

hoping to stave off JRT.

But

what I'm wondering do you sprinkle is on your dogs food or put it in

his/her water?

And

how much to you give?

S-Max

-------Original

Message-------

From: jim

Date:

3/3/2009 8:01:47 AM

Subject:

[ ] MSM

If MMS stands for miracle

mineral supplement, MSM should stand for miracle sulfur material.

I took a gram of MSM per

day for a number of years and it may have done some good, but it will

virally heal you in quantity. It is the only joint supplement that I

know of that seems to follow the rule that a little does some good, but

a lot does a lot of good. At least in my case, I have never had any

adverse affects from taking "huge" quantities, never found a limit,

and it has healed some things that were declared beyond hope... like my

ACL in my knee that came out of joint with the only slight stress and

sciatica. You simply can't take much of the other joint supplements

without gastric distress.

<SNIP>

By the way, it is great for dogs and other animals, too. My 14 yr old

golden retriever would be dead by now without it. It also seems to

help his coat look better.

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March 3, 2009

Same here. I tried putting little doses in her tiny raw meatballs but she won't eat them with the MSM. The only thing I found so far I can hide MSM in where she will eat it is Gerber's Baby Food Turkey and Ham. Go figure!

I started on high dose MSM, G/C, CMO, Biotin, Silica about two months ago, and am already reaping the benefits. I'm so glad I did, as I was headed for JRT too. Congratulations!

S-Max

-- Re: [ ] MSM

My dog is on 3/4 raw hamburger diet and quarter Evo (grain free variety). I make a little pouch for him out of hamburger and fill it up with MSM. He never seems to notice, even if some of it gets on the outside. He gets 1/6 lb in three equal servings or 1/2 lb per day, so the pouch is one serving in the morning. He weighs 80 lb. If his hind legs get droopy when he is overstressed (like today when he got stuck in the snow), he gets a second at noon. What I did not mention is that he also has gotten colloidal minerals in his water with a tad of Flanagan's MegaHydrate all of his life. I started him on MSM when he was 8 yrs old and could not climb the stairs. 80 lb of dog is just too much to carry up the stairs. Now he has occasional qualms about it after too many trips, but always manages them. It was my research for his condition on the web that got me to stumble on the idea of high quantities of MSM. It kept me from joint replacement and him alive... so far.

March 3, 2009

On 3/3/2009 11:01 AM, jim wrote:

> At least in my case, I have never had any adverse affects from taking

> " huge " quantities, never found a limit, and it has healed some things

> that were declared beyond hope... like my ACL in my knee that came

> out of joint with the only slight stress and sciatica. You simply

> can't take much of the other joint supplements without gastric

> distress.

Interesting stuff...

So how much did you take daily?

March 3, 2009

That is weird. My golden has a great nose, but is unaffected by the

MSM. have you tried putting capsules in her meatballs?

sms wrote:

Same

here. I tried putting little doses in her tiny raw meatballs but she

won't eat them with the MSM. The only thing I found so far I can hide

MSM in where she will eat it is Gerber's Baby Food Turkey and Ham. Go

figure!

I

started on high dose MSM, G/C, CMO, Biotin, Silica about two months

ago, and am already reaping the benefits. I'm so glad I did, as I was

headed for JRT too. Congratulations!

S-Max

-------Original

Message-------

From: jim

Date:

3/3/2009 8:45:17 AM

Subject:

Re: [ ]

MSM

My dog is on 3/4 raw hamburger diet and quarter Evo (grain

free variety). I make a little pouch for him out of hamburger and

fill it up with MSM. He never seems to notice, even if some of it gets

on the outside. He gets 1/6 lb in three equal servings or 1/2 lb per

day, so the pouch is one serving in the morning. He weighs 80 lb. If

his hind legs get droopy when he is overstressed (like today when he

got stuck in the snow), he gets a second at noon.

What I did not mention is that he also has gotten colloidal minerals in

his water with a tad of Flanagan's MegaHydrate all of his

life. I started him on MSM when he was 8 yrs old and could not climb

the stairs. 80 lb of dog is just too much to carry up the stairs. Now

he has occasional qualms about it after too many trips, but always

manages them. It was my research for his condition on the web that got

me to stumble on the idea of high quantities of MSM. It kept me from

joint replacement and him alive... so far.

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March 4, 2009

Awesome! Where do you get it in bulk?From: jim <6840268@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:01:24 AMSubject: [ ] MSM

If MMS stands for miracle mineral

supplement, MSM should stand for miracle sulfur material.

I took a gram of MSM per day for a

number of years and it may have done some good, but it will virally

heal you in quantity. It is the only joint supplement that I know of

that seems to follow the rule that a little does some good, but a lot

does a lot of good. At least in my case, I have never had any adverse

affects from taking "huge" quantities, never found a limit, and it has

healed some things that were declared beyond hope... like my ACL in my

knee that came out of joint with the only slight stress and sciatica.

You simply can't take much of the other joint supplements without

gastric distress.

Side affects? Arteries are comprised of connective tissue. MSM makes

connective tissue more supple and, at the same time, as I have

discovered, will grow it back when it is torn. Hard arteries, as we

have been told for years, cause high blood pressure... so lower blood

pressure is a side effect of taking MSM. We know that heart attacks

often begin with small tears in the circulatory system and we know that

strokes are caused by fissures in it. The evidence is, then, that it

will help protect you from both stroke and heart attack... nice side

effect, huh?

Also, MSM works very quickly, unlike most supplements. For example, I

shoveled snow out of my drive today and overstressed my back (I am

67). I took a heaping tablespoonful of MSM and I am back in business.

After about two hours... NOTHING! Not even a tinge! Ten years ago,

that would have signaled a visit to the Chiropractor and a week or so

of pain.

When you take MSM, take a heaping tablespoonful with a little water,

swish it around in your mouth for a few minutes, then chase it down

with a full glass of water. It tastes a little bitter... and cold,

but its not too bad and certainly a lot better than what you would

endure without it. Much of it is dissolved and absorbed in the mouth.

I learned this trick from a distributor of MSM who sells it by the ton

for horses on the web.

By the way, it is great for dogs and other animals, too. My 14 yr old

golden retriever would be dead by now without it. It also seems to

help his coat look better.

Giordano wrote:

You've got me interested, Jim! What nice side effects? I've

been taking MSM for years, but never in that quantity.... ...

From: jim

<6840268comcast (DOT) net>

miracle_mineral_ supplement

Sent: Monday, March 2,

2009 10:39:59 AM

Subject: Re:

[miracle_mineral_ supplement] (unknown)

Don't know about the lupus, but there is nothing better that I

have

found for osteo than MSM in large quantity combined with the usual

joint supplements. I have taken as much as a 1/2 cup a day for it when

things were very bad. It has some nice side effects also.

sheryl baldwin wrote:

GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHERYL I HAVE LUPUS SJOGENS DISEASE AND

OSTEO ARTHRITIS I AM ON MANY MEDS AND I AM LOOKING TO SPEAK TO SOME

ONE THAT HAS TRIED MIRACEL FOR THESE SYMPTOMS AND HOW DID IT DO I

HAVE BEEN VERY ILL THIS YEAR I AM SOON TO START ON ENBREL THANKS

SHERYL

March 4, 2009

http://tinyurl.com/cu5efm

this is claimed to be lignisul MSM. lignisul is the manufacturer and made in usa using a double distillation process. supposed to be the best. this same ebay seller has single kilo jars and other bundles too. check google & amazon.com also... often amazon has better deals than ebay.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of GiordanoSent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [ ] MSM

Awesome! Where do you get it in bulk?

From: jim <6840268@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 11:01:24 AMSubject: [ ] MSM

If MMS stands for miracle mineral supplement, MSM should stand for miracle sulfur material. I took a gram of MSM per day for a number of years and it may have done some good, but it will virally heal you in quantity. It is the only joint supplement that I know of that seems to follow the rule that a little does some good, but a lot does a lot of good. At least in my case, I have never had any adverse affects from taking "huge" quantities, never found a limit, and it has healed some things that were declared beyond hope... like my ACL in my knee that came out of joint with the only slight stress and sciatica. You simply can't take much of the other joint supplements without gastric distress.Side affects? Arteries are comprised of connective tissue. MSM makes connective tissue more supple and, at the same time, as I have discovered, will grow it back when it is torn. Hard arteries, as we have been told for years, cause high blood pressure... so lower blood pressure is a side effect of taking MSM. We know that heart attacks often begin with small tears in the circulatory system and we know that strokes are caused by fissures in it. The evidence is, then, that it will help protect you from both stroke and heart attack... nice side effect, huh?Also, MSM works very quickly, unlike most supplements. For example, I shoveled snow out of my drive today and overstressed my back (I am 67). I took a heaping tablespoonful of MSM and I am back in business. After about two hours... NOTHING! Not even a tinge! Ten years ago, that would have signaled a visit to the Chiropractor and a week or so of pain. When you take MSM, take a heaping tablespoonful with a little water, swish it around in your mouth for a few minutes, then chase it down with a full glass of water. It tastes a little bitter... and cold, but its not too bad and certainly a lot better than what you would endure without it. Much of it is dissolved and absorbed in the mouth. I learned this trick from a distributor of MSM who sells it by the ton for horses on the web. By the way, it is great for dogs and other animals, too. My 14 yr old golden retriever would be dead by now without it. It also seems to help his coat look better. Giordano wrote:

You've got me interested, Jim! What nice side effects? I've been taking MSM for years, but never in that quantity.... ..

From: jim <6840268comcast (DOT) net>miracle_mineral_ supplementSent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:39:59 AMSubject: Re: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] (unknown)

Don't know about the lupus, but there is nothing better that I have found for osteo than MSM in large quantity combined with the usual joint supplements. I have taken as much as a 1/2 cup a day for it when things were very bad. It has some nice side effects also.sheryl baldwin wrote:

GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHERYL I HAVE LUPUS SJOGENS DISEASE AND OSTEO ARTHRITIS I AM ON MANY MEDS AND I AM LOOKING TO SPEAK TO SOME ONE THAT HAS TRIED MIRACEL FOR THESE SYMPTOMS AND HOW DID IT DO I HAVE BEEN VERY ILL THIS YEAR I AM SOON TO START ON ENBREL THANKS SHERYL

March 4, 2009

This just proves that everyone is different. I cannot take MSM at all

and neither can my son. We developed the very symptoms MSM is supposed

to help. Our knees hurt so badly we could hardly walk and it felt like

they had fever in them...actually all my joints hurt. It also made me

feel very nauseous.

I started taking it very slowly...I tried the crystals and the capsules.

I had such high hopes for it because I have issues that would have been

helped...I was very disappointed.

I know MSM helps many people, I am just not one of them.

I only mention this to show that not everyone can take it and for those

starting out they should take it slow until you know how it will effect

you.

Sandy

>

> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHERYL I HAVE LUPUS SJOGENS DISEASE AND

> OSTEO ARTHRITIS I AM ON MANY MEDS AND I AM LOOKING TO SPEAK TO SOME

> ONE THAT HAS TRIED MIRACEL FOR THESE SYMPTOMS AND HOW DID IT DO I

> HAVE BEEN VERY ILL THIS YEAR I AM SOON TO START ON ENBREL THANKS

> SHERYL

>

March 4, 2009

On 3/4/2009, ether_avatar (hollis302000@...) wrote:

> This just proves that everyone is different. I cannot take MSM at all

> and neither can my son. We developed the very symptoms MSM is supposed

> to help. Our knees hurt so badly we could hardly walk and it felt like

> they had fever in them...actually all my joints hurt. It also made me

> feel very nauseous.

>

> I started taking it very slowly...I tried the crystals and the capsules.

> I had such high hopes for it because I have issues that would have been

> helped...I was very disappointed.

>

> I know MSM helps many people, I am just not one of them.

>

> I only mention this to show that not everyone can take it and for those

> starting out they should take it slow until you know how it will effect

> you.

You said you started slowly... can you elaborate on the process? What

amount did you start with? How long did you take it before increasing

the level? How long did you take it in total?

Are you absolutely certain that the pain wasn't from doing some GOOD

things... that can and will happen, especially if the joints are in bad

shape to begin with...

March 4, 2009

Hi,

I am unclear about your quantities. Are you taking the straight sodium chlorite

by the tablespoon? Or what?

Thanks,

Cashew

> >

> >> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHERYL I HAVE LUPUS SJOGENS DISEASE AND

> >> OSTEO ARTHRITIS I AM ON MANY MEDS AND I AM LOOKING TO SPEAK TO SOME

> >> ONE THAT HAS TRIED MIRACEL FOR THESE SYMPTOMS AND HOW DID IT DO I

> >> HAVE BEEN VERY ILL THIS YEAR I AM SOON TO START ON ENBREL THANKS

> >> SHERYL

> >>

> >

>

March 4, 2009

On 3/4/2009, cashew21 (cashew21@...) wrote:

> I am unclear about your quantities. Are you taking the straight

> sodium chlorite by the tablespoon? Or what?

He's talking about MSM, not MMS...

March 4, 2009

...he's talking abut taking MSM, *NOT* MMS (sodium chlorite) at all. MMS

was only mentioned in the first line.

> [ ] Re:

> MSM

>

> Hi,

> I am unclear about your quantities. Are you taking the

> straight sodium chlorite by the tablespoon? Or what?

> Thanks,

> Cashew

>

> > >

> > >> GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHERYL I HAVE LUPUS SJOGENS DISEASE AND

> > >> OSTEO ARTHRITIS I AM ON MANY MEDS AND I AM LOOKING TO

> SPEAK TO SOME

> > >> ONE THAT HAS TRIED MIRACEL FOR THESE SYMPTOMS AND HOW

> DID IT DO I

> > >> HAVE BEEN VERY ILL THIS YEAR I AM SOON TO START ON ENBREL THANKS

> > >> SHERYL

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

March 4, 2009

For a better price try:

http://www.msm-msm.com/

http://www.msm-msm.com/store/agora.cgi?product=MSM & user4=Lignisul®

Dan

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of bob Larson

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009

6:01 AM

Subject: RE: [ ]

MSM

http://tinyurl.com/cu5efm

this is claimed to be lignisul MSM.

lignisul is the manufacturer and made in usa using a double distillation

process. supposed to be the best. this same ebay seller has single

kilo jars and other bundles too. check google & amazon.com

also... often amazon has better deals than ebay.

From:

[mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Giordano

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009

5:26 AM

Subject: Re: [ ]

MSM

Awesome! Where do you get it in bulk?

From: jim

<6840268comcast (DOT) net>

Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009

11:01:24 AM

Subject: [ ]

MSM

If

MMS stands for miracle mineral supplement, MSM should stand for miracle

sulfur material.

I took

a gram of MSM per day for a number of years and it may have done some

good, but it will virally heal you in quantity. It is the only

joint supplement that I know of that seems to follow the rule that a little

does some good, but a lot does a lot of good. At least in my case, I have

never had any adverse affects from taking " huge " quantities, never

found a limit, and it has healed some things that were declared beyond

hope... like my ACL in my knee that came out of joint with the only slight

stress and sciatica. You simply can't take much of the other joint supplements

without gastric distress.

Side affects? Arteries are comprised of connective tissue. MSM

makes connective tissue more supple and, at the same time, as I have

discovered, will grow it back when it is torn. Hard arteries, as we

have been told for years, cause high blood pressure... so lower blood

pressure is a side effect of taking MSM. We know that heart attacks often begin

with small tears in the circulatory system and we know that strokes are caused

by fissures in it. The evidence is, then, that it will help protect you

from both stroke and heart attack... nice side effect, huh?

Also, MSM works very quickly, unlike most supplements. For example,

I shoveled snow out of my drive today and overstressed my back (I am

67). I took a heaping tablespoonful of MSM and I am back in business.

After about two hours... NOTHING! Not even a tinge! Ten years ago,

that would have signaled a visit to the Chiropractor and a week or so of

pain.

When you take MSM, take a heaping tablespoonful with a little water,

swish it around in your mouth for a few minutes, then chase it down with a full

glass of water. It tastes a little bitter... and cold, but its not

too bad and certainly a lot better than what you would endure without it.

Much of it is dissolved and absorbed in the mouth. I learned this trick

from a distributor of MSM who sells it by the ton for horses on the web.

By the way, it is great for dogs and other animals, too. My 14 yr

old golden retriever would be dead by now without it. It also seems to

help his coat look better.

Giordano wrote:

You've got me interested, Jim! What nice side effects? I've

been taking MSM for years, but never in that quantity.... ..

From: jim

<6840268comcast (DOT) net>

miracle_mineral_ supplement@

groups. com

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009

10:39:59 AM

Subject: Re: [miracle_mineral_

supplement] (unknown)

Don't know about the lupus, but there is nothing better that

I have found for osteo than MSM in large quantity combined with the usual joint

supplements. I have taken as much as a 1/2 cup a day for it when things

were very bad. It has some nice side effects also.

sheryl baldwin wrote:

GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS SHERYL I HAVE LUPUS SJOGENS

DISEASE AND

OSTEO ARTHRITIS I AM ON MANY MEDS AND I AM LOOKING TO SPEAK TO SOME

ONE THAT HAS TRIED MIRACEL FOR THESE SYMPTOMS AND HOW DID IT DO I

HAVE BEEN VERY ILL THIS YEAR I AM SOON TO START ON ENBREL THANKS

SHERYL

March 4, 2009

Ebay is a good source. Or just search MSM. I buy it by the

kilo. You want as fine a grain as possible... fine grains make it

easier to dissolve.

Giordano wrote:

Awesome! Where do you get it in bulk?

From: jim

<6840268comcast (DOT) net>

Sent: Tuesday, March

3, 2009 11:01:24 AM

Subject:

[ ] MSM

If MMS stands for miracle

mineral

supplement, MSM should stand for miracle sulfur material.

I took a gram of MSM per day for

a