MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

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MMS2 is nothing but pool chlorine, no? For years, I have read about the toxic

affects of pool chlorine, and that European athletes even refuse to swim in

water containing it. It would acidify the body as well, as chlorine is absorbed

through the skin. Granted, some chlorine is needed to make hydrochloric acid for

digestion, but too much can cause other problems. Similarly, I don't see any

value in the acidic H3O product put out by www.altcancer.com, although I like

their other products.

I seriously doubt the supposed " anti-cancer " claims for MMS2. I think one would

be much better off taking Lugol's iodine or Burdock root, seeing that these are

antifungal substances, and that cancer is in fact nothing but fungus. The

so-called four stages of cancer are nothing more than the stages of development

of the fungus, the most predominant being Candida albicans.

from Israel

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You have a lot of homework to do. Jim Humble was posted here and on

his website... a very long and exhaustive explanation that you must

read first. Any description beyond that is a waste of time until you

are familiar with what the says. Is he correct? That is for you to

decide. What he says holds water IMHO. I have not tried MM2 yet, but

probably will. One thing for sure is that MMS and MMS2 are not

chlorine.

Yochanan wrote:

MMS2 is nothing but pool chlorine, no? For years, I have read

about the toxic affects of pool chlorine, and that European athletes

even refuse to swim in water containing it. It would acidify the body

as well, as chlorine is absorbed through the skin. Granted, some

chlorine is needed to make hydrochloric acid for digestion, but too

much can cause other problems. Similarly, I don't see any value in the

acidic H3O product put out by www.altcancer.com, although I like

their other products.

I seriously doubt the supposed "anti-cancer" claims for MMS2. I think

one would be much better off taking Lugol's iodine or Burdock root,

seeing that these are antifungal substances, and that cancer is in fact

nothing but fungus. The so-called four stages of cancer are nothing

more than the stages of development of the fungus, the most predominant

being Candida albicans.

from Israel

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On 9/25/2009, Yochanan (yburkett@...) wrote:

> MMS2 is nothing but pool chlorine, no?

No.

Nothing else you said has any relevance whatsoever, since your basic

premise was totally false.

It is best to actually do a little reading and research before spouting

off, displaying your ignorance to the world.

MMS2 looks to be another extraordinary 'discovery' by Jim...

Also, he has modified the protocol for MMS1 (the original)...

No longer does he recommend large doses once or twice per day. He has

discovered that activated MMS does *not* continue releasing chlorine

dioxide for many hours, but only for an hour or two at most.

So, now he recommends taking smaller doses (start with 1 drop then work

your way up) once per hour (or two at most), all day long...

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I have all the makings for MMS2, got the Calcium Hypochlorite from ACE Hardware, only cost about $4 for 1 pound which ought to last a long time. I thought the size "0" capsules were reasonable at about $7+ and I also got a filler gadget for about $13. I haven't gotten around to filling any capsules yet but probably with do that today.

Jack

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Has anyone on this list taken MMS2 and how has it reacted.

I would like to try it but can not find the empty size 0 capsuls.

Tell the list your experience with MMS2 Sodium Hypochlorite

MMS1 works very well...

A.R

[ ] Re: MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

I have all the makings for MMS2, got the Calcium Hypochlorite from ACE Hardware, only cost about $4 for 1 pound which ought to last a long time. I thought the size "0" capsules were reasonable at about $7+ and I also got a filler gadget for about $13. I haven't gotten around to filling any capsules yet but probably with do that today.

Jack

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On 9/26/2009, Alvin Rose (ajroseca@...) wrote:

> Tell the list your experience with MMS2 Sodium Hypochlorite

> MMS1 works very well...

MMS1 = Sodium Hypochlorite

Sodium Hypochlorite + Activator (acid) > Chlorine dioxide

************************************************************

MMS2 = Calcium Hypochlorite

Calcium Hypochlorite + H2O > Hypochlorous acid

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MMS2 is not pool chlorine

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From: Yochanan <yburkett@...>Subject: [ ] MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 3:44 PM

MMS2 is nothing but pool chlorine, no? For years, I have read about the toxic affects of pool chlorine, and that European athletes even refuse to swim in water containing it. It would acidify the body as well, as chlorine is absorbed through the skin. Granted, some chlorine is needed to make hydrochloric acid for digestion, but too much can cause other problems. Similarly, I don't see any value in the acidic H3O product put out by www.altcancer. com, although I like their other products.I seriously doubt the supposed "anti-cancer" claims for MMS2. I think one would be much better off taking Lugol's iodine or Burdock root, seeing that these are antifungal substances, and that cancer is in fact nothing but fungus. The so-called four stages of cancer are nothing more than the stages of development of the fungus, the most predominant being Candida albicans. from Israel

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On 9/26/2009 5:55:35 PM, Alvin Rose (ajroseca@...) wrote:

> Has anyone on this list taken MMS2 and how has it reacted.

> I would like to try it but can not find the empty size 0 capsuls.

> Tell the list your experience with MMS2 Sodium Hypochlorite

> MMS1 works very well...

> A.R

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Be careful in distinguishing sodium hypochlorite from sodium

chlorite and calcium hypochlorite. An extra or missing oxygen atom here

or there can make quite a difference. While MMS1 is promoted based on its

oxygen giving properties, oxidisers all have their own properties. If you

read JH’s stuff he’s saying that how strongly bound the oxygen is,

is critical (in voltage terms). We don’t want oxygen singlets

reacting all over the place in our body as that would be unbiased destruction.

Rather we want them bound to something until their time and place arrives.

The big plus with MMS1 (if it works as claimed), is that it is stable enough to

move through the body and will only react where needed. You can get one

explanation of that here: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-brochure.pdf

H2O2 I don’t know about. I guess there’s a

chance it could donate an oxygen atom and leave water behind. We’d

have to look into that more. I’ve seen what 50% H2O2 did when I

used it for other purposes and I wouldn’t want any dilution internally.

I use the stock 3% stuff for mouth wash (no swallow!), and for on itchy scabs

to remove the temptation to pick them, but that’s about it. If I

did want to take it internally (which I don’t) then I’d start with

the stronger stuff (35%+) and dilute it yo perhaps 1% or so rather than use the

3% stuff due to the stabilisers that are purported to be in them.

MMS2 we don’t really have any data on yet, but it’s

espoused purpose is as a source of hypochlorous acid once activated. I’ve

been taking 3 caps a day for 9 days now. However, as I don’t have a

particular condition I’m trying to treat, my experience is of little value.

All I can say is that it’s easy on the system compared to MMS1 (no sides

whatsoever). What can be drawn from that I’m not quite sure.

Expect if taken with MMS1 then it might be more challenging, but since they

appear to work on a largely different axis perhaps not. I have read

somewhere that it is thought that MMS1 could be a slight precursor to

Hypochorous, but have nothing to substantiate that.

B

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Check this site for size 0 capsules. They also have a capsule filter gadget at a reasonable price.

http://search.store..net/cgi-bin/nsearch?unique=f82bb & catalog=vitasprings

Jack

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On 9/27/2009, Bond (pmbond@...) wrote:

> While MMS1 is promoted based on its oxygen giving properties,

What gave you that idea? This is completely wrong..

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Hi Tanstaafl

MMS1 is not sodium Hypochlorite but is Sodium Chlorite

MMS2 is Sodium Hypochlorite. no activator is used..

I wanted to know if anyone on this list has used MMS2 and what was

the results or effect...I have used MMS1 many times with excellent results..

A.Rose

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On 9/26/2009, Alvin Rose (ajrosecanf (DOT) sympatico.ca) wrote:> Tell the list your experience with MMS2 Sodium Hypochlorite> MMS1 works very well...MMS1 = Sodium HypochloriteSodium Hypochlorite + Activator (acid) > Chlorine dioxide************************************************************MMS2 = Calcium HypochloriteCalcium Hypochlorite + H2O > Hypochlorous acid

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Hi Chuck

Does that mean you have used MMS2 on your blonde and is she still blonde ???

Re: [ ] Re: MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

Try here : http://tinyurl.com/ybsofrmChuckWhen blondes have more fun, do they know it?On 9/26/2009 5:55:35 PM, Alvin Rose (ajrosecanf (DOT) sympatico.ca) wrote:> Has anyone on this list taken MMS2 and how has it reacted.> I would like to try it but can not find the empty size 0 capsuls.> Tell the list your experience with MMS2 Sodium Hypochlorite> MMS1 works very well...> A.R

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On 9/27/2009, Alvin Rose (ajroseca@...) wrote:

> MMS1 is not sodium Hypochlorite but is Sodium Chlorite

Sorry, I was typing too fast... you are correct, MMS1 is sodium chlorite

(generally, a 28% solution)...

> MMS2 is Sodium Hypochlorite.

No, it is not, it is CALCIUM hypochlorite - I got that one right...

> no activator is used..

Not precisely correct - the activator is water, whether used externally

or internally. If used internally, it simply mixes with the water that

you are admonished to drink when taking the capsules - 2 full glasses

with the first capsule(s), and one full glass with each successive dose

during the day - but you must mix it with water.

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Correction: MMS2 is CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE not sodium hypochorite.

doug

Re: [ ] Re: MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

Hi Tanstaafl

MMS1 is not sodium Hypochlorite but is Sodium Chlorite

MMS2 is Sodium Hypochlorite. no activator is used..

I wanted to know if anyone on this list has used MMS2 and what was

the results or effect...I have used MMS1 many times with excellent results..

A.Rose

[Guest guest]

You are correct..I am trying to find if anyone has used MMS2 for a while

and what was the results..According to Jim Humble it does a good job.

I would like to try it if I find that it works well with no danger or side effects..

Have you used it yet and what did you find..

A.Rose

Re: [ ] Re: MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

On 9/27/2009, Alvin Rose (ajrosecanf (DOT) sympatico.ca) wrote:> MMS1 is not sodium Hypochlorite but is Sodium ChloriteSorry, I was typing too fast... you are correct, MMS1 is sodium chlorite(generally, a 28% solution)...> MMS2 is Sodium Hypochlorite.No, it is not, it is CALCIUM hypochlorite - I got that one right...> no activator is used..Not precisely correct - the activator is water, whether used externallyor internally. If used internally, it simply mixes with the water thatyou are admonished to drink when taking the capsules - 2 full glasseswith the first capsule(s), and one full glass with each successive doseduring the day - but you must mix it with water.

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On 9/27/2009, Alvin Rose (ajroseca@...) wrote:

> I am trying to find if anyone has used MMS2 for a while and what was

> the results. According to Jim Humble it does a good job. I would like

> to try it if I find that it works well with no danger or side

> effects.

I haven't started using it yet, but I'm no longer afraid of it, and plan

on getting some asa, in preparation for the big 'Flu scare' vaccination

push.

Once you learn what it is and understand how it works, there's nothing

to be afraid of, as long as you understand the three simple caveats/dangers:

1. (not) Making sure you get the right stuff

One place for the right stuff is 's Pool Supply, the stuff is

called 'Power Powder Plus':

http://www.lesliespool.com/browse/Home/Pool-Chemicals/Power-Powder-Plus-6-Pack/D\

/30100/P/1:100:1000/I/14673

or

http://tiny.pl/hqf52

2. (not) Drinking plenty of water with the capsules

It is very importanto drink plenty of water - Jim recomends two FULL

glasses with your first dose, and one full glass for each dose therafter

and

3. Be careful handling it, as touching the raw chemical can irritate the

skin. Use gloves when making your capsules, and/or use a capsule maker...

Also, there are quite a few people using/dicussing it on the Findng1Cure

list:

finding1cure/

--

Best regards,

[Guest guest]

Okay, bad choice of words. Maybe I should have written

Oxidation. Where I got that from was the accompanying link, which was

this one: http://jimhumble.biz/biz-brochure.pdf

which I believe is derived from the work of T.L. Hesselink.

B

>

While MMS1 is promoted based on its oxygen giving properties,

What gave you that idea? This is completely wrong..

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Hi, I am new to this group, but not new to the MMS protocol. As you, , I

am maintaining the double (MMS & Shock) MMS protocol to ward off any flu or

other pandemic that may occur this coming winter, as I am not going to get the

Swine Flu injection, only the regular flu shot.

I am keeping the MMS in all my drinking water and water for any animals in my

care also. I take 3 drops of MMS 2x a day, and one capsule of the Shock 2x a

day......unless I get feeling negatively affected by it and then I will skip a

dose or two until I feel better.

I am bathing in MMS (30 drops) and then alternating the next bath to the Shock,

two teaspoons to a tub, and interspersing with the good old Epsom Salts/boric

acid baths for a break. After every bath I smear my whole body, scalp too, with

Benzoyl Peroxide, made for acne control so it really draws impurities up and out

of the skin.

The Shock is the most caustic and to be used sparingly and with caution, but it

is intensely effective. Approach usage with extreme caution and go slowly.

Bowls, 2 inches deep, of the Shock in a closed off room (no humans, birds, or

pets allowed in) will sterilize the room effectively after several hours. Air

the room out before returning.

Best, Pwyll

> > I am trying to find if anyone has used MMS2 for a while and what was

> > the results. According to Jim Humble it does a good job. I would like

> > to try it if I find that it works well with no danger or side

> > effects.

>

> I haven't started using it yet, but I'm no longer afraid of it, and plan

> on getting some asa, in preparation for the big 'Flu scare' vaccination

> push.

>

> Once you learn what it is and understand how it works, there's nothing

> to be afraid of, as long as you understand the three simple caveats/dangers:

>

> 1. (not) Making sure you get the right stuff

>

> One place for the right stuff is 's Pool Supply, the stuff is

> called 'Power Powder Plus':

>

>

http://www.lesliespool.com/browse/Home/Pool-Chemicals/Power-Powder-Plus-6-Pack/D\

/30100/P/1:100:1000/I/14673

>

> or

>

> http://tiny.pl/hqf52

>

> 2. (not) Drinking plenty of water with the capsules

>

> It is very importanto drink plenty of water - Jim recomends two FULL

> glasses with your first dose, and one full glass for each dose therafter

>

> and

>

> 3. Be careful handling it, as touching the raw chemical can irritate the

> skin. Use gloves when making your capsules, and/or use a capsule maker...

>

> Also, there are quite a few people using/dicussing it on the Findng1Cure

> list:

>

> finding1cure/

>

> --

>

> Best regards,

>

>

>

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On 9/28/2009, Bond (pmbond@...) wrote:

> Okay, bad choice of words. Maybe I should have written Oxidation.

Yep... big difference in the two...

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On 9/28/2009, pwyll_cyan (cyan43@...) wrote:

> Hi, I am new to this group, but not new to the MMS protocol. As you,

> , I am maintaining the double (MMS & Shock) MMS protocol to

> ward off any flu or other pandemic that may occur this coming winter,

> as I am not going to get the Swine Flu injection, only the regular

> flu shot.

I would strongly urge you to reconsider taking any vaccinations

whatsoever for anything, ever, from this government/medical establishment.

They simply aren't necessary, and the evidence is just piling up that

the bastards in our government/medical/military indusustrial complex are

using people as guinea pigs via vaccinations. There is even evidence

they are getting ready to use them as a form of population control.

Just say no to vaccinations.

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On 9/28/2009 11:26 AM, pwyll_cyan wrote:

> After every bath I smear my whole body, scalp too, with Benzoyl

> Peroxide, made for acne control so it really draws impurities up and

> out of the skin.

Yikes... personally, if I were you, I'd stop with the BP, and start

using good old clay... see www.eytonsearth.org for more info...

Just get some clay, hydrate a bunch, then smear it all over your body

just like you're doing now with the BP - it would be much safer and

healthier, and probably more ffective too...

> The Shock is the most caustic and to be used sparingly and with

> caution, but it is intensely effective. Approach usage with extreme

> caution and go slowly. Bowls, 2 inches deep, of the Shock in a closed

> off room (no humans, birds, or pets allowed in) will sterilize the

> room effectively after several hours. Air the room out before

> returning.

They people on the Finding1Cure list say that MMS1 in bowls is more

effective and safer.

Using MMS2 externally has not been tested by Jim Humble, only internally...

Of course thats not to say you shouldn't do it, but just be careful...

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From: tanstaafl@...Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:08:28 -0400Subject: Re: [ ] Re: MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

On 9/28/2009, pwyll_cyan (cyan43gmail) wrote:> Hi, I am new to this group, but not new to the MMS protocol. As you,> , I am maintaining the double (MMS & Shock) MMS protocol to> ward off any flu or other pandemic that may occur this coming winter,> as I am not going to get the Swine Flu injection, only the regular> flu shot.I would strongly urge you to reconsider taking any vaccinationswhatsoever for anything, ever, from this government/medical establishment.They simply aren't necessary, and the evidence is just piling up thatthe bastards in our government/medical/military indusustrial complex areusing people as guinea pigs via vaccinations. There is even evidencethey are getting ready to use them as a form of population control.Just say no to vaccinations.

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Hi - new to this group - lurking - but have to pitch in on vaccines....AVOID like the plague.My BF had a reaction to a tetanus shot - it ruined her life - she still has multiple allergies. My bro had seizures after the MMR - he had terrible cattargh for life. My arm got badly infected after a TB shot.You don't have to look far to see the hard evidence - not to mentiion the autism.Stand strong - don't let them compromise your immune systems any more. Spread the word.C From: ronicamelian@...Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:26:28 -0700Subject: RE: [ ] Re: MMS2 doesn't sound like a good idea

A friend asked her doctor her opinion about flu vaccines including Swine....doc said they are useless. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Jerry-C-Berry/blog/2009/05 http://shawn-allison.memory-of.com/About.aspx http://www.realcrimes.com//%20.htm

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On 9/28/2009, pwyll_cyan (cyan43gmail) wrote:> Hi, I am new to this group, but not new to the MMS protocol. As you,> , I am maintaining the double (MMS & Shock) MMS protocol to> ward off any flu or other pandemic that may occur this coming winter,> as I am not going to get the Swine Flu injection, only the regular> flu shot.I would strongly urge you to reconsider taking any vaccinationswhatsoever for anything, ever, from this government/medical establishment.They simply aren't necessary, and the evidence is just piling up thatthe bastards in our government/medical/military indusustrial complex areusing people as guinea pigs via vaccinations. There is even evidencethey are getting ready to use them as a form of population control.Just say no to vaccinations.

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On 9/29/2009, Klasi Lady (ronicamelian@...) wrote:

> A friend asked her doctor her opinion about flu vaccines including

> Swine....doc said they are useless.

Useless? They are very harmful, but would be considered very useful to

any group of people who wanted to keep people sick and spending money on

harmful drugs.