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MMS is one of these things that’s

good for the occasional emergency, but prolonged use probably

is not the ideal.If you can only mix this together and that is the

only thing you have, absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form of Magnascent Iodine If you have no choice, by

all means use MMS, but if you do have a choice... because

if you do it for any length of time, you’re likely

to accumulate biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a

choice between life and death use your MMS, but if you have

alternatives, you would be best to start with Magnascent Iodine first,

and then the Super Silver or Allimed Allicin.

Allimed

Allicin is a medical drug administered by doctors in Europe

and some places sells it here in North America without

a prescription. This will kill all pathogens. It’ll

kill Lyme disease, viruses, bacteria. MMS will save lives

but it’s toxic in the longer duration. Since everyone is build slightly differently and at different age the time period in which the toxicity builds up would depend on those factors. People who take it daily, as a preventive

or for a period of months or years, are going to get problems. But it’s the same thing as people drinking water that’s

heavily chlorinated or with fluoride. So use it with your own best judgement.Combine any of these treaments with a good probotics and plain yogurt would be a good practice since MMS will kill off some of the good flora inside your body.AndyFrom: "ginlaw@..." <ginlaw@...> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:44:35 PMSubject: [ ] New to group and have a question

Hi all. My name is and I'm been sucessfully using Chlorine Dioxide for myself and for my dog too.

I have a question for anyone who has used MMS in conjunction with DMSO. Can you tell me what ratio you used, or how much DMSO to the 15 drop (w/citric acid) standard amount?

Thanks,

, RI

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On 7/1/2009, Andy (ay280@...) wrote:

> MMS is one of these things that's good for the occasional emergency,

> but prolonged use probably is not the ideal.

Agree...

> If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing you

> have, absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form

> of Magnascent Iodine

Magascent is great stuff, but not 'the alternative' to MMS - they do

very different things...

> If you have no choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a

> choice... because if you do it for any length of time, you're likely

> to accumulate biotoxins.

Eh? Source for this claim, please.

As far as I know, using MMS will not cause you to accumulate biotoxins.

It has the potential to cause you to lose electrolytes, and in extremely

large doses (far greater than recommended for usage) can cause red blood

cell crimping, which would be dangerous, but I'd like to see your

evidence in support of your claim that it can cause one to 'accumulate

biotoxins'.

> You know, obviously if you have a choice between life and death use

> your MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to start

> with Magnascent Iodine first, and then the Super Silver or Allimed

> Allicin.

>

> Allimed Allicin is a medical drug

No, it is not, it is a 'neutraceutical', aka concentrated natural food

substance. Please stop helping the pharmaceutical industry in their

pursuit of claiming ownership of anything that is claimed to promote

health by labeling it a 'drug', which they claim absolute, tyrannical

control of.

> and some places sells it here in North America without a

> prescription. This will kill all pathogens. Itll kill Lyme disease,

> viruses, bacteria.

I tend to treat any and all claims of 100%, absolute efficacy as

immediately suspect.

> MMS will save lives but it's toxic in the longer duration.

I wouldn't use the word toxic, but I'd agree it can be harmful if used

improperly - ie, daily for a long term.

> People who take it daily, as a preventive or for a period of months

> or years, are going to get problems.

Depends on the dose...

> But it's the same thing as people drinking water that' heavily

> chlorinated or with fluoride. So use it with your own best judgement.

Not the same thing... chlorine and fluoride or toxic poisons in and of

themselves... MMS is not...

> Combine any of these treaments with a good probotics and plain yogurt

> would be a good practice

These are always a good prctice...

> since MMS will kill off some of the good flora inside your body.

Apparently true...

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Regarding killing off good flora and the need to eat yogurt to compensate:

Correct me if I am wrong but -

Seems I've heard and read that the good flora are aerobic,therefore would thrive

in an environment of an oxidant like MMS.

(Although I do think eating yogurt is always good for us, anyway :} )

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Thanks for all the great info but I was not considering using this long term or

for myself. I'm interested in using it for my horse. My intention is to use it

with DMSO one week on and one week off. I was also considering alternating

between citric acid (on week) and ascorbic acid (off week)

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This is a good question and I have the same one.

While I have your attention, how did you get the MMS into your puppy?

ginlaw@... wrote:

Hi all. My name is and I'm been sucessfully using Chlorine

Dioxide for myself and for my dog too.

I have a question for anyone who has used MMS in conjunction with DMSO.

Can you tell me what ratio you used, or how much DMSO to the 15 drop

(w/citric acid) standard amount?

Thanks,

, RI

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I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is

speculation.. While we are speculating, you might add premature aging

to your list. Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are

theoretically the basis for aging, this should prove true. If it is

not, it could be construed that antioxidants are ineffective.

Andy wrote:

MMS is one of these

things that’s good for the occasional emergency, but prolonged use

probably is not the ideal.

If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing you have,

absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form of Magnascent Iodine

If you have no

choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a choice... because if

you do it for any length of time, you’re likely to accumulate

biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a choice between life and

death use your MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to

start with Magnascent Iodine first, and then the Super Silver or

Allimed Allicin.

Allimed Allicin

is a medical drug administered by doctors in Europe and some places

sells it here in North America without a prescription. This will kill

all pathogens. It’ll kill Lyme disease, viruses, bacteria.

MMS will save

lives but it’s toxic in the longer duration. Since everyone is build

slightly differently and at different age the time period in which the

toxicity builds up would depend on those factors.

People who take

it daily, as a preventive or for a period of months or years, are going

to get problems.

But it’s the

same thing as people drinking water that’s heavily chlorinated or with

fluoride. So use it with your own best judgement.

Combine any of

these treaments with a good probotics and plain yogurt would be a good

practice since MMS will kill off some of the good flora inside your

body.

Andy

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Hi all. My name is and I'm been sucessfully using Chlorine

Dioxide for myself and for my dog too.

I have a question for anyone who has used MMS in conjunction with DMSO.

Can you tell me what ratio you used, or how much DMSO to the 15 drop

(w/citric acid) standard amount?

Thanks,

, RI

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I recall some who had Lyme, which needs long term attention, used MMS

for an extended period. They complained of looking older because of

it.

I think I would use antioxidants every other day, or some such

schedule.

Chuck

666A The Tenant of the Beast

On 7/1/2009 5:46:37 PM, jim (6840268@...) wrote:

> I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is speculation..

> While we are speculating, you might add premature aging to your list.

> Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are theoretically the basis for

> aging, this should prove true. If it is not, it could be construed that

> antioxidants are ineffective.

>

>

> Andy wrote:

> MMS is one of these things that’s good for the occasional emergency, but

> prolonged use probably is not the ideal.

>

> If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing you have,

> absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form of

> Magnascent Iodine

>

>

> If you have no choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a choice...

> because if you do it for any length of time, you’re likely to accumulate

> biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a choice between life and death

> use your MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to start

> with Magnascent Iodine first, and then the Super Silver or Allimed Allicin.

>

>

>

> Allimed Allicin is a medical drug administered by doctors in Europe and

> some places sells it here in North America without a prescription. This

> will kill

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Well, good advice... maybe. No one really knows how long it takes

for an antioxidant to do its work. At the same time, although MMS

goes into the system quickly, we do not know how long its effects

continue to go on.

Does anyone see where I am going with this?

cking001@... wrote:

I recall some who had Lyme, which needs long term attention, used

MMS

for an extended period. They complained of looking older because of

it.

I think I would use antioxidants every other day, or some such

schedule.

Chuck

666A The Tenant of the Beast

On 7/1/2009 5:46:37 PM, jim (6840268comcast (DOT) net)

wrote:

> I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is

speculation..

> While we are speculating, you might add premature aging to your

list.

> Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are theoretically the basis

for

> aging, this should prove true. If it is not, it could be construed

that

> antioxidants are ineffective.

>

>

> Andy wrote:

> MMS is one of these things that’s good for the occasional

emergency, but

> prolonged use probably is not the ideal.

>

> If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing you

have,

> absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form of

> Magnascent Iodine

>

>

> If you have no choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a

choice...

> because if you do it for any length of time, you’re likely to

accumulate

> biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a choice between life

and death

> use your MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to

start

> with Magnascent Iodine first, and then the Super Silver or Allimed

Allicin.

>

>

>

> Allimed Allicin is a medical drug administered by doctors in

Europe and

> some places sells it here in North America without a prescription.

This

> will kill

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Well yeah,

Life's a crapshoot.

And it's not fair,

nor predictable.

We (alterative health nuts) are all experiments of one.

Everything in moderation is a sensible approach.

I'll give it a shot...

So far, so good.

Chuck

29A, The hexadecimal of the beast!

On 7/1/2009 6:53:13 PM, jim (6840268@...) wrote:

> Well, good advice... maybe. No one really knows how long it takes for an

> antioxidant to do its work. At the same time, although MMS goes into the

> system quickly, we do not know how long its effects continue to go on.

>

> Does anyone see where I am going with this?

>

>

> cking001@... wrote:

>

> I recall some who had Lyme, which needs long term attention, used MMS

> for an extended period. They complained of looking older because of

> it.

> I think I would use antioxidants every other day, or some such

> schedule.

>

> Chuck

> 666A The Tenant of the Beast

>

> On 7/1/2009 5:46:37 PM, jim (6840268@... [link:

> mailto:6840268@...]) wrote:

> > I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is speculation..

> > While we are speculating, you might add premature aging to your list.

> > Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are theoretically the basis for

> > aging, this should prove true. If it is not, it could be construed that

> > antioxidants are ineffective.

> >

> >

> > Andy wrote:

> > MMS is one of these things that’s good for the occasional emergency,

> but

> > prolonged use probably is not th

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That... and keep the two as far apart in their ingestion as

possible.

So 9 am antioxidant... 9 pm MMS? Thoughts?

cking001@... wrote:

Well yeah,

Life's a crapshoot.

And it's not fair,

nor predictable.

We (alterative health nuts) are all experiments of one.

Everything in moderation is a sensible approach.

I'll give it a shot...

So far, so good.

Chuck

29A, The hexadecimal of the beast!

On 7/1/2009 6:53:13 PM, jim (6840268comcast (DOT) net)

wrote:

> Well, good advice... maybe. No one really knows how long it takes

for an

> antioxidant to do its work. At the same time, although MMS goes

into the

> system quickly, we do not know how long its effects continue to go

on.

>

> Does anyone see where I am going with this?

>

>

> cking001nycap (DOT) rr.com

wrote:

>

> I recall some who had Lyme, which needs long term attention, used

MMS

> for an extended period. They complained of looking older because of

> it.

> I think I would use antioxidants every other day, or some such

> schedule.

>

> Chuck

> 666A The Tenant of the Beast

>

> On 7/1/2009 5:46:37 PM, jim (6840268comcast (DOT) net

[link:

> mailto:6840268comcast (DOT) net])

wrote:

> > I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is

speculation..

> > While we are speculating, you might add premature aging to

your list.

> > Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are theoretically the

basis for

> > aging, this should prove true. If it is not, it could be

construed that

> > antioxidants are ineffective.

> >

> >

> > Andy wrote:

> > MMS is one of these things that’s good for the occasional

emergency,

> but

> > prolonged use probably is not th

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Hi Jim,

I have personally found that MMS is a effective cleaning

agent that can be added to a oral irrigator such as the hydrofloss to kill off

hard to reach bacteria that are located deep within the gum.

Here is the routine that I conduct on myself 3 times a week

right before bed.

1. Flossing.

2. Cleaning using oral irrigator such as the Hydrofloss +

MMS (15 drops).

3. Brushing with a flouride free formula toothpaste.

4. Use probotic mouth wash to round off the cleaning

process.

If your gum gets tender or inflammed try using some tea tree

oil around the inflammed parts of the gum.

I also recommend everyone to do a quick self evaluation for

possible Candida infections since this is an unknown epidemic at least in the US:

http://www.fungusfocus.com/html/candida_long_questionnaire.htm

Fungus infection is becoming a epidemic is not surprising.

This is due to the fact that we are exposed on so many fronts by chemicals and

GMO foods that are killing off the good internal flora inside of us. Now with

so many of these top microbiologist being taken out of the scene is it all

becoming clear on just how important our internal flora is to our health?

If you have been evaluated as likely having Candida

infection I would immediately stop using MMS. Quickly build backup your internal

flora using high quality probotoics. I would highly recommend taking probotoics

first thing in the morning on a empty stomach and last thing at night time at

least 2 hours after supper.

There is a company call Uviva: www.uviva.com that sells

something that may be effective in fighting off Candida. There are many out

there that claims to fight off candida but this is the only one that I have

personally tried with some success at this point in time.

Has anyone here also looked into C. Beck’s

Protocols?For those that have not heard of him; he is a highly respected

research physicist and formerly a consultant to the Sandia Corp, Senior Staff

Scientist at Eyring Research Institute.

From: jim <6840268@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 5:46:37 PMSubject: Re: [ ] New to group and have a question

I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is

speculation. . While we are speculating, you might add premature aging

to your list. Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are

theoretically the basis for aging, this should prove true. If it is

not, it could be construed that antioxidants are ineffective.

Andy wrote:

MMS is one of these

things that’s good for the occasional emergency, but prolonged use

probably is not the ideal.

If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing you have,

absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form of Magnascent Iodine

If you have no

choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a choice... because if

you do it for any length of time, you’re likely to accumulate

biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a choice between life and

death use your MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to

start with Magnascent Iodine first, and then the Super Silver or

Allimed Allicin.

Allimed Allicin

is a medical drug administered by doctors in Europe and some places

sells it here in North America without a prescription. This will kill

all pathogens. It’ll kill Lyme disease, viruses, bacteria.

MMS will save

lives but it’s toxic in the longer duration. Since everyone is build

slightly differently and at different age the time period in which the

toxicity builds up would depend on those factors.

People who take

it daily, as a preventive or for a period of months or years, are going

to get problems.

But it’s the

same thing as people drinking water that’s heavily chlorinated or with

fluoride. So use it with your own best judgement.

Combine any of

these treaments with a good probotics and plain yogurt would be a good

practice since MMS will kill off some of the good flora inside your

body.

Andy

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"ginlawverizon (DOT) net" <ginlawverizon (DOT) net>

miracle_mineral_ supplement

Sent: Tuesday, June

30, 2009 2:44:35 PM

Subject:

[miracle_mineral_ supplement] New to group and have a question

Hi all. My name is and I'm been sucessfully using Chlorine

Dioxide for myself and for my dog too.

I have a question for anyone who has used MMS in conjunction with DMSO.

Can you tell me what ratio you used, or how much DMSO to the 15 drop

(w/citric acid) standard amount?

Thanks,

, RI

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Been there and agree. No candida as far as I know. Have you read

about Dr. Simoncini? Candida transmutates and becomes cancer. They

are one & the same in different forms.

Andy wrote:

Hi Jim,

I have personally found that MMS is a effective

cleaning

agent that can be added to a oral irrigator such as the hydrofloss to

kill off

hard to reach bacteria that are located deep within the gum.

Here is the routine that I conduct on myself 3

times a week

right before bed.

1. Flossing.

2. Cleaning using oral irrigator such as the

Hydrofloss +

MMS (15 drops).

3. Brushing with a flouride free formula

toothpaste.

4. Use probotic mouth wash to round off the

cleaning

process.

If your gum gets tender or inflammed try using

some tea tree

oil around the inflammed parts of the gum.

I also recommend everyone to do a quick self

evaluation for

possible Candida infections since this is an unknown epidemic at least

in the US:

http://www.fungusfocus.com/html/candida_long_questionnaire.htm

Fungus infection is becoming a epidemic is not

surprising.

This is due to the fact that we are exposed on so many fronts by

chemicals and

GMO foods that are killing off the good internal flora inside of us.

Now with

so many of these top microbiologist being taken out of the scene is it

all

becoming clear on just how important our internal flora is to our

health?

If you have been evaluated as likely having

Candida

infection I would immediately stop using MMS. Quickly build backup your

internal

flora using high quality probotoics. I would highly recommend taking

probotoics

first thing in the morning on a empty stomach and last thing at night

time at

least 2 hours after supper.

There is a company call Uviva: www.uviva.com that

sells

something that may be effective in fighting off Candida. There are many

out

there that claims to fight off candida but this is the only one that I

have

personally tried with some success at this point in time.

Has anyone here also looked into C. Beck’s

Protocols?For those that have not heard of him; he is a highly

respected

research physicist and formerly a consultant to the Sandia Corp, Senior

Staff

Scientist at Eyring Research Institute.

From: jim

<6840268comcast (DOT) net>

Sent: Wednesday, July

1, 2009 5:46:37 PM

Subject: Re:

[ ] New to group and have a question

I agree with you Andy, but at this point what you say is

speculation. . While we are speculating, you might add premature

aging

to your list. Since MMS is an oxidizer... and oxides are

theoretically the basis for aging, this should prove true. If it is

not, it could be construed that antioxidants are ineffective.

Andy wrote:

MMS is one of these

things that’s good for the occasional emergency, but prolonged use

probably is not the ideal.

If you can only mix this together and that is the only thing you have,

absolutely, use it. The alternative to MMS would be some form of Magnascent Iodine

If you have

no

choice, by all means use MMS, but if you do have a choice... because if

you do it for any length of time, you’re likely to accumulate

biotoxins. You know, obviously if you have a choice between life and

death use your MMS, but if you have alternatives, you would be best to

start with Magnascent Iodine first, and then the Super Silver or

Allimed Allicin.

Allimed

Allicin

is a medical drug administered by doctors in Europe and some places

sells it here in North America without a prescription. This will kill

all pathogens. It’ll kill Lyme disease, viruses, bacteria.

MMS will save

lives but it’s toxic in the longer duration. Since everyone is build

slightly differently and at different age the time period in which the

toxicity builds up would depend on those factors.

People who

take

it daily, as a preventive or for a period of months or years, are going

to get problems.

But it’s the

same thing as people drinking water that’s heavily chlorinated or with

fluoride. So use it with your own best judgement.

Combine any

of

these treaments with a good probotics and plain yogurt would be a good

practice since MMS will kill off some of the good flora inside your

body.

Andy

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supplement

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30, 2009 2:44:35 PM

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[miracle_mineral_ supplement] New to group and have a question

Hi all. My name is and I'm been sucessfully using Chlorine

Dioxide for myself and for my dog too.

I have a question for anyone who has used MMS in conjunction with DMSO.

Can you tell me what ratio you used, or how much DMSO to the 15 drop

(w/citric acid) standard amount?

Thanks,

, RI

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Is that right that selenium and iodine should not be taken together???? I have read that brewers yeast is not good if you have candida. Any feedback would be apprediated.

Thanks, Pam

Hello, I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroid and want to take Iodine for that and breast health. I bought, Iodine Synergy, from my compounding pharmacy. It contains, Iodine 10 mg (as potassium Iodide) and selenium 40mcg (as selenomethionine) , other ingredients: Microcrystalline cellulose, rice flour. Is this a good product and does it have enough active ingredients to help me? Thank you!

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The Iodine doctors recommend a product that contains both iodine and iodide since the body needs both. They can be provided in either Lugol's Liquid or Iodoral (pill form of Lugol's). There is more info in the files section of the group.

Steph

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Hello, I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroid and want to take Iodine for that and breast health. I bought, Iodine Synergy, from my compounding pharmacy. It contains, Iodine 10 mg (as potassium Iodide) and selenium 40mcg (as selenomethionine), other ingredients: Microcrystalline cellulose, rice flour. Is this a good product and does it have enough active ingredients to help me? Thank you!

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I take selenium every morning at the same time I take my iodine. I have not heard they cant be taken together.

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Is that right that selenium and iodine should not be taken together???? I have read that brewers yeast is not good if you have candida. Any feedback would be apprediated.

Thanks, Pam

Hello, I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroid and want to take Iodine for that and breast health. I bought, Iodine Synergy, from my compounding pharmacy. It contains, Iodine 10 mg (as potassium Iodide) and selenium 40mcg (as selenomethionine) , other ingredients: Microcrystalline cellulose, rice flour. Is this a good product and does it have enough active ingredients to help me? Thank you!

~Tania Bartell

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I can't find that info. What page is it on? It doesn't make sense to me

especially since kelp has both selenium and iodine. Shouldn't we be following

Nature?

thanks,

Joan

> >

> >Hello, I was recently diagnosed with hypothyroid and want

> >to take Iodine for that and breast health. I bought, Iodine Synergy,

> >from my compounding pharmacy. It contains, Iodine 10 mg (as potassium

> >Iodide) and selenium 40mcg (as selenomethionine) , other

> >ingredients: Microcrystalline cellulose, rice flour. Is this a good

> >product and does it have enough active ingredients to help me? Thank

> >you!

> >

> >~Tania Bartell

> >

>

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I have not seen a good resource for that assertion.

Steph

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Is this true? Why would a pharmacist carry this product if it shouldn't be taken together? Hmm...I will have to do some research.~Tania>>> > I have also read from (I forget) many sources that Iodine> and selenium should not be taken together. If anyone> else can dispute or verify this, please comment.> > > - s> >

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In over 5,000 hours intensive research I have never seen it mentioned by anyone in the know, nor by anyone really.

It is essential with iodine.

Are you thinking of vit C with iodine?

Bruce

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I have not seen a good resource for that assertion.

Steph

>>> > I have also read from (I forget) many sources that Iodine> and selenium should not be taken together. If anyone> else can dispute or verify this, please comment.> > > - s> >

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My understanding is that it is needed by the iodine. I think the

majority on this loop take together.

Donna in IL

Is that right that selenium and iodine should not be taken

together???? I have read that brewers yeast is not good if you have

candida. Any feedback would be apprediated.

Thanks, Pam

Hello, I was

recently diagnosed with hypothyroid and want to take Iodine for that and

breast health. I bought, Iodine Synergy, from my compounding

pharmacy. It contains, Iodine 10 mg (as potassium Iodide) and

selenium 40mcg (as selenomethionine) , other ingredients:

Microcrystalline cellulose, rice flour. Is this a good product and

does it have enough active ingredients to help me? Thank you!

~Tania Bartell

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