Re: Oxidation / Liver Spots on Hands?

May 21, 2009

Hello Brad, I discovered that liver spots (age spots) are actually the tentacles

of fungi located beneath the skin. To eliminate them, I tried using MMS

unsuccessfully; however, at the time, I was not combining MMS with DMSO. What

worked great was Cansema salve (from www.altcancer.com). It pulled the fungus

out completely, forming a scab. After the scab came off, a cavity remained that

was formerly occupied by fungus - the fungus was dissolved. A few weeks later,

the cavity filled in, and the skin color returned to normal. My hands now look

like I am 25 years younger.

from Israel

>

> Hello,

>

> Has anybody else experienced oxidation of the skin anywhere? After

> doing MMS I got " liver spots " on a few of my fingers (thumbs to middle

> fingers). It may have simply oxidized a vitamin or medicine I'm on,

> but it looked pretty bad for about a month. It is clearing up, but I

> have to say it is certainly MMS related. I also use a Bob Beck zapper

> at night which may have caused the issue as well.

>

> Thanks,

> Brad

>

May 21, 2009

I was curious:

You said you didn't use DMSO at the time, but what worked was Cansema salve. It's unclear whether the salve alone is what worked, or if you actually started using DMSO with MMS along with the salve. What was the complete combination that worked?

from Israel wrote:

Hello Brad, I discovered that liver spots (age spots) are actually the tentacles of fungi located beneath the skin. To eliminate them, I tried using MMS unsuccessfully; however, at the time, I was not combining MMS with DMSO. What worked great was Cansema salve (from www.altcancer.com). It pulled the fungus out completely, forming a scab. After the scab came off, a cavity remained that was formerly occupied by fungus - the fungus was dissolved. A few weeks later, the cavity filled in, and the skin color returned to normal. My hands now look like I am 25 years younger. from Israel

May 21, 2009

john... are you sure it wasn't skin cancers? from my reading, i thought

cansema type bloodroot salves only attacked cancers, acting on them as you

described. non-cancer cells cause no reaction at all.

> [ ] Re: Oxidation / Liver

> Spots on Hands?

>

> Hello Brad, I discovered that liver spots (age spots) are

> actually the tentacles of fungi located beneath the skin. To

> eliminate them, I tried using MMS unsuccessfully; however, at

> the time, I was not combining MMS with DMSO. What worked

> great was Cansema salve (from www.altcancer.com). It pulled

> the fungus out completely, forming a scab. After the scab

> came off, a cavity remained that was formerly occupied by

> fungus - the fungus was dissolved. A few weeks later, the

> cavity filled in, and the skin color returned to normal. My

> hands now look like I am 25 years younger.

>

> from Israel

May 22, 2009

Brad, Before I even purchased the Cansema salve, I experimented with MMS without

DMSO. At that time, I did not have DMSO.

Later, I received the Cansema salve, which I used by itself. The Cansema salve

removed fungus without any help from DMSO or MMS. I recommend that Cansema be

used only by itself (externally).

Has anyone tried to get rid of skin fungus using MMS + DMSO? I haven't tried

that yet. I didn't need to use this combination because I got excellent results

using Cansema salve alone. Make sure that you only get the Cansema salve from

www.altcancer.com as there are fake imitations on the market that do not work.

I have also experimented using DMSO + Oregano oil on my forehead, and it is only

very slowly eliminating fungus. I am using it because I do not want any

unsightly scabs on my face.

from Israel

>

> Hello Brad, I discovered that liver spots (age spots) are actually the

tentacles of fungi located beneath the skin. To eliminate them, I tried using

MMS unsuccessfully; however, at the time, I was not combining MMS with DMSO.

What worked great was Cansema salve (from www.altcancer.com). It pulled the

fungus out completely, forming a scab. After the scab came off, a cavity

remained that was formerly occupied by fungus - the fungus was dissolved. A few

weeks later, the cavity filled in, and the skin color returned to normal. My

hands now look like I am 25 years younger.

>

> from Israel

>

May 22, 2009

Hello Bob, Fungus is cancer! And yes, Cansema only attacks fungus by dissolving

it, but does not affect normal skin (except to redden it slightly due to

inflammation). Bloodroot salves are not as good as those based on zinc chloride.

Bloodroot salves tend to causing scarring. See www.altcancer.com for a

comprehensive discussion on escharotic (scab-forming) salves.

from Israel

--- In , " bob Larson " <bobList@...>

wrote:

>

> john... are you sure it wasn't skin cancers? from my reading, i thought

> cansema type bloodroot salves only attacked cancers, acting on them as you

> described. non-cancer cells cause no reaction at all.

>

> > [ ] Re: Oxidation / Liver

> > Spots on Hands?

> >

> > Hello Brad, I discovered that liver spots (age spots) are

> > actually the tentacles of fungi located beneath the skin. To

> > eliminate them, I tried using MMS unsuccessfully; however, at

> > the time, I was not combining MMS with DMSO. What worked

> > great was Cansema salve (from www.altcancer.com). It pulled

> > the fungus out completely, forming a scab. After the scab

> > came off, a cavity remained that was formerly occupied by

> > fungus - the fungus was dissolved. A few weeks later, the

> > cavity filled in, and the skin color returned to normal. My

> > hands now look like I am 25 years younger.

> >

> > from Israel

>

May 22, 2009

Hello Maggie, The information about liver spots being the tip of fungi tentacles

came from me - I put Cansema salve (www.altcancer.com) on a liver spot, and a

scab formed. When the scab fell off, white fungus tentacles could be seen. I did

not spread the Cansema over a wide enough area, so after the scab fell off, I

could see the white fungus tentacles that had grown through the skin and reached

the surface.

On my leg, a large fungus colony had actually completely replaced my skin, and

assumed a near-skin color to camouflage itself. When I applied Cansema to it,

the usual scab formed. After the scab fell off, there was a large, white mass of

fungi. The true color of fungus is white, and this has been observed by Dr.

Tulio Simoncini in all cases of cancer

(http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/398.html). A large cavity was created after

the removal of the white fungal mass, but it quickly was filled with normal skin

again, albeit it was purplish in color. It takes a few weeks for the skin color

to return to normal.

Cansema salve is used by itself for maximum affect. It is spread on the

suspected area by hand. To find out where the fungus is initially, you can spray

the suspected area with colloidal silver, and then apply Cansema. You can then

see the area over which to reapply Cansema by itself later, as the affected

areas will become " itchy " , and perhaps even causing some small red dots to

appear.

MMS by itself did nothing compared to Cansema. It is possible that it might be

effective when used with DMSO.

Using MMS in a bath would be completely useless. Fungus is very tenacious, and

is almost a part of you once it gets it's hooks in.

Ever wonder why old people cannot sprint anymore? It's fungus!

from Israel

--- In , Maggie <maggiemaya@...>

wrote:

>

> I discovered that liver spots (age spots) are actually the tentacles of

> fungi located beneath the skin.

>

> I am wondering where this information came from. Also, how did you use the

> cansema salve. And finally, I am wondering if MMS might dissolve this fungus

> if used in a bath? What do other people experience? Thanks Maggie

>

May 22, 2009

For what it's worth I discovered by accident that by taking a little

extra Vitamin D3 a few 'liver spots' on my face cleared up by

themselves over a few weeks time. I had one large spot on my

forehead that would sometimes fade and sometimes become

very noticeable. After I started taking some extra Vitamin D3

the spot just gradually faded away. So who knows in my case

the liver spots may have signalled a Vitamin D deficiency. Dr.

Mercola claims that most people can be deficient in this vitamin.

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May 22, 2009

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Hello Bob, Fungus is cancer!

....i believe that is nonsense.

And yes, Cansema only attacks

> fungus by dissolving it, but does not affect normal skin

> (except to redden it slightly due to inflammation). Bloodroot

> salves are not as good as those based on zinc chloride.

> Bloodroot salves tend to causing scarring. See

> www.altcancer.com for a comprehensive discussion on

> escharotic (scab-forming) salves.

....ok, somehow i thought the cansema was a bloodroot formula, as the term

" black salve " seems to generally refer to bloodroot formulas.

they have a lot of good iodine info.

May 22, 2009

i just took another closer look at the cansema black salve ingredients in

the FAQ section.

while the ingredient list doesn't appear to indicate relative amounts of

each, bloodroot is in there...it's the sanguinaria.

The original CansemaR formula (ingredients, percentages, and manufacturing

methods) has evolved over time, largely to improve performance and minimize

pain management issues. The current ingredients of the original formula are:

zinc chloride (ZnCl2), distilled water, Larrea mexicata leaf (contains

active principle: NDGA (nordihydrogauaretic acid, 17% by weight),

sanguinaria (Sanguinaria canadensis); galangal root (Alpinia officinarum) or

ginger root (Zingiber officinale); graviola leaf (Annona muricata), and

glycerine (used as a humectant, to keep the product moist).

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Hello Bob, Fungus is cancer!

....i believe that is nonsense.

And yes, Cansema only attacks

> fungus by dissolving it, but does not affect normal skin

> (except to redden it slightly due to inflammation). Bloodroot

> salves are not as good as those based on zinc chloride.

> Bloodroot salves tend to causing scarring. See

> www.altcancer.com for a comprehensive discussion on

> escharotic (scab-forming) salves.

....ok, somehow i thought the cansema was a bloodroot formula, as the term

" black salve " seems to generally refer to bloodroot formulas.

they have a lot of good iodine info.

May 22, 2009

What is this about? Which old people?

I play tennis with several men in their eighties and they sprint as

well as some men half their ages. Just interested in hearing your

opinion.

yburkett wrote:

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May 22, 2009

Hi Bob:

I have corresponded personally with a woman who employed "her version"

of the Simoncini protocol and cured herself of advanced cancer.

Simoncini is the real deal. My friend, Dr. Freeman has

corresponded with him at length and is convinced that his findings are

correct. What is your basis for your statement?

Regards, Jim

bob Larson wrote:

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Hello Bob, Fungus is cancer!

....i believe that is nonsense.

And yes, Cansema only attacks

> fungus by dissolving it, but does not affect normal skin

> (except to redden it slightly due to inflammation). Bloodroot

> salves are not as good as those based on zinc chloride.

> Bloodroot salves tend to causing scarring. See

> www.altcancer.com for a comprehensive discussion on

> escharotic (scab-forming) salves.

....ok, somehow i thought the cansema was a bloodroot formula, as the

term

"black salve" seems to generally refer to bloodroot formulas.

they have a lot of good iodine info.

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May 22, 2009

You have to believe that Graviola is a recent addition to the

Cansema formula. The directions on the video at the website put

bloodroot at 25%... significant amount.

bob Larson wrote:

i just took another closer look at the cansema black salve

ingredients in

the FAQ section.

while the ingredient list doesn't appear to indicate relative amounts of

each, bloodroot is in there...it's the sanguinaria.

The original CansemaR formula (ingredients, percentages, and

manufacturing

methods) has evolved over time, largely to improve performance and

minimize

pain management issues. The current ingredients of the original formula

are:

zinc chloride (ZnCl2), distilled water, Larrea mexicata leaf (contains

active principle: NDGA (nordihydrogauaretic acid, 17% by weight),

sanguinaria (Sanguinaria canadensis); galangal root (Alpinia

officinarum) or

ginger root (Zingiber officinale); graviola leaf (Annona muricata), and

glycerine (used as a humectant, to keep the product moist).

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May 22, 2009

the statement "fungus is cancer" is ridiculously simplistic, unrealistic.

everybody knows it's caused by flukes. just kidding... hulda clarke is wrong also.

while the baking soda might work sometimes, and may well be reliable when injected into tumors, there's a lot more to it than that.

body pH is complex and touchy.

i have some more stuff somewhere more specific about all that, but no time to dig now. consider this recent post on a rife group (in response to the assertion that rife had discovered a viral cause of cancer:

No. That is not what Dr. Rife discovered although he believed he had. What he discovered was that when there is cancer, there is a pathogen present, Progenator cryptocides is a pleomorphic organism that has been assigned many names by various researchers over the years. Dr. Rife discovered that there are 10 families of these organisms and that their physical state and function is controlled by the chemical conditions in which they are living. By shifting the pH of a nutrient agar, he and Dr. Kendall were able to change Bacillus coli (e coli) into several diseases including cancer and then back again to the harmless form from which they had started their experiment.

Cancer is not a disease, it is the normal physiological result of grossly polluted body humors with large amounts of cellular dyscrasia in the blood and lymph coupled with a chronic localized injury combined with lymph stasis that causes hypoxia (starvation for oxygen) in the tissues. When the tissues die, it is the result of external chemical influences that force cell division as a survival mechanism and as a result rapid growth and quick cellular death results in a vast accumulation of necrosed trash that is not adequately removed from the area due to sluggish lymph flow. Thus a fertilized soil condition develops that supports the morphing of Progenator cryptocides to shift its shape and function to become a scavenger, placed there by Nature to consume the necrosed tissues rendering them inert. In order to perform this fermentation function and to halt the spread of the condition, a tumor is formed.

Cancer is not caused by any microorganism, it is caused by irritation in a localized area combined with a systemic dyscrasia of undigested foreign proteins which produce humor fluids of unbalanced chemistry.

These systemic toxins along with some form of tissue damage produces a mild inflammation and a shift in the continuance of the minerals of sodium, potassium, calcium and phosphorus. Potassium and sodium saturate the now weak cells and produce a hydrophilic condition whereby water accumulates and produces a hyperalkalosis within the cell structures. This condition further reduces lymph flow as the cahnnels narrow as a result of the swelling aka edema. A shift in the cellular metabolism thus produces an inferior form of ATP and the cell begins to ignore oxygen for the most part (not entirely) and ferments sugars. This process produces lactic acid 70 times greater than is produced in normal muscular exercise activity. It is the lactic acid and other acids produced during the necrobiosis process of the fermentation of the cell that produces a hormone/enzyme-like substance known as necrone (products of decomposition of proteins).

It is the amount of necrone produced along with an inhibitedlymphatic drainage that produces the shift in Progenator cryptocides to change into the cancer malignancy zone of the pleomorphic mycelial stage into a yeast and then to a fungal form. The organism, likely a mycoplasma and not a virus as Dr. Rife believed, in what he observed in all cases of cancer. Payton Rous was awarded the Nobel Prize for his discovery of the chicken Sarcoma virus associated with cancers in those animals. The association between a viral-like form and cancer is no longer in dispute but to call its presence as to being the cause of the cancer is erroneous. Cancer is not a contageous condition

thus there are no external entities that are responsible for its development. Cancer is caused by assults upon the metabolism of the body and is a normal reaction to an environment not supportive of normal life.

To quote Claude Bernard 1813-1878: "The microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything"

Carmi Haze

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jimSent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Oxidation / Liver Spots on Hands?

Hi Bob: I have corresponded personally with a woman who employed "her version" of the Simoncini protocol and cured herself of advanced cancer. Simoncini is the real deal. My friend, Dr. Freeman has corresponded with him at length and is convinced that his findings are correct. What is your basis for your statement?Regards, Jimbob Larson wrote:

May 22, 2009

Hi Bob:

It sounds like you should look into his work further. Simoncini

acknowledges that the (candida) fungus transforms itself (is a pleomorphic

organism) into other forms according

to its development, etc. However, if baking soda protocol works...

and he has demonstrated that it has for thirty years, the evidence is

strong that he is a lot closer to a total cure than anyone in the

mainstream by relieving the acid condition. The one problem that he

has had is effecting a "cure" of bone cancer just because his delivery

system does not work as well in bones. Simoncini suggests that cancer

is a reaction in the body to external organisms, candida in particular,

and is not a disease, per say. Your description, that it is a result of

grossly polluted body humors... and "thus the presence of candida" is

possibly splitting hairs. I have read similar descriptions before and

suggest that nothing posted below discredits Simoncini's work. His

website is written for non-professionals and is, therefore,

simplistic.

I would not be surprised if Hulga did not agree with this too if

it were presented to her, but I don't know. I have not read her books

and have little real knowledge of her work other than her statements

about parasites.

I think that the term cure is still accurate. If I find a relief from

migraines, I call that a cure. No one assumes that migraines are

caused by external organisms.

Regards,

Jim

bob Larson wrote:

the statement "fungus is cancer"

is ridiculously simplistic, unrealistic.

everybody knows it's caused by

flukes. just kidding... hulda clarke is wrong also.

while the baking soda might work

sometimes, and may well be reliable when injected into tumors, there's

a lot more to it than that.

body pH is complex and touchy.

i have some more stuff somewhere

more specific about all that, but no time to dig now. consider this

recent post on a rife group (in response to the assertion that rife had

discovered a viral cause of cancer:

No. That is not what Dr. Rife discovered although he believed he

had. What he discovered was that when there is cancer, there is a

pathogen present, Progenator cryptocides is a pleomorphic organism that

has been assigned many names by various researchers over the years. Dr.

Rife discovered that there are 10 families of these organisms and that

their physical state and function is controlled by the chemical

conditions in which they are living. By shifting the pH of a nutrient

agar, he and Dr. Kendall were able to change Bacillus coli (e coli)

into several diseases including cancer and then back again to the

harmless form from which they had started their experiment.

Cancer is not a disease, it is the normal physiological result of

grossly polluted body humors with large amounts of cellular dyscrasia

in the blood and lymph coupled with a chronic localized injury combined

with lymph stasis that causes hypoxia (starvation for oxygen) in the

tissues. When the tissues die, it is the result of external chemical

influences that force cell division as a survival mechanism and as a

result rapid growth and quick cellular death results in a vast

accumulation of necrosed trash that is not adequately removed from the

area due to sluggish lymph flow. Thus a fertilized soil condition

develops that supports the morphing of Progenator cryptocides to shift

its shape and function to become a scavenger, placed there by Nature to

consume the necrosed tissues rendering them inert. In order to perform

this fermentation function and to halt the spread of the condition, a

tumor is formed.

Cancer is not caused by any microorganism, it is caused by

irritation in a localized area combined with a systemic dyscrasia of

undigested foreign proteins which produce humor fluids of unbalanced

chemistry.

These systemic toxins along with some form of tissue damage

produces a mild inflammation and a shift in the continuance of the

minerals of sodium, potassium, calcium and phosphorus. Potassium and

sodium saturate the now weak cells and produce a hydrophilic condition

whereby water accumulates and produces a hyperalkalosis within the cell

structures. This condition further reduces lymph flow as the cahnnels

narrow as a result of the swelling aka edema. A shift in the cellular

metabolism thus produces an inferior form of ATP and the cell begins to

ignore oxygen for the most part (not entirely) and ferments sugars.

This process produces lactic acid 70 times greater than is produced in

normal muscular exercise activity. It is the lactic acid and other

acids produced during the necrobiosis process of the fermentation of

the cell that produces a hormone/enzyme-like substance known as

necrone (products of decomposition of proteins).

It is the amount of necrone produced along with an

inhibitedlymphatic drainage that produces the shift in Progenator

cryptocides to change into the cancer malignancy zone of the

pleomorphic mycelial stage into a yeast and then to a fungal form. The

organism, likely a mycoplasma and not a virus as Dr. Rife believed, in

what he observed in all cases of cancer. Payton Rous was awarded the

Nobel Prize for his discovery of the chicken Sarcoma virus associated

with cancers in those animals. The association between a viral-like

form and cancer is no longer in dispute but to call its presence as to

being the cause of the cancer is erroneous. Cancer is not a contageous

condition

thus there are no external entities that are responsible for its

development. Cancer is caused by assults upon the metabolism of the

body and is a normal reaction to an environment not supportive of

normal life.

To quote Claude Bernard 1813-1878: "The microbe is nothing, the

terrain is everything"

Carmi Haze

From:

[mailto: ] On

Behalf Of jim

Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 1:33 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Oxidation

/ Liver Spots on Hands?

Hi Bob:

I have corresponded personally with a woman who employed "her version"

of the Simoncini protocol and cured herself of advanced cancer.

Simoncini is the real deal. My friend, Dr. Freeman has

corresponded with him at length and is convinced that his findings are

correct. What is your basis for your statement?

Regards, Jim

bob Larson wrote:

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May 22, 2009

ok. but i'm not into researching cancer per se, i just read and collect some of what comes by in the lists i read. i'm mostly just into what works, without the time or adequate mind to devote much to deeper understanding.

isn't my description... i didn't write it, Carmi did.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of jimSent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Oxidation / Liver Spots on Hands?

Hi Bob:It sounds like you should look into his work further. Simoncini acknowledges that the (candida) fungus transforms itself (is a pleomorphic organism) into other forms according to its development, etc. However, if baking soda protocol works... and he has demonstrated that it has for thirty years, the evidence is strong that he is a lot closer to a total cure than anyone in the mainstream by relieving the acid condition. The one problem that he has had is effecting a "cure" of bone cancer just because his delivery system does not work as well in bones. Simoncini suggests that cancer is a reaction in the body to external organisms, candida in particular, and is not a disease, per say. Your description, that it is a result of grossly polluted body humors... and "thus the presence of candida" is possibly splitting hairs. I have read similar descriptions before and suggest that nothing posted below discredits Simoncini's work. His website is written for non-professionals and is, therefore, simplistic. I would not be surprised if Hulga did not agree with this too if it were presented to her, but I don't know. I have not read her books and have little real knowledge of her work other than her statements about parasites. I think that the term cure is still accurate. If I find a relief from migraines, I call that a cure. No one assumes that migraines are caused by external organisms.Regards,Jimbob Larson wrote: